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Brian Cruz
09-13-2001, 12:46 AM
Kids' WB will air #21 "Hooked Up" instead of #47 "Unmaked" this Friday, because "Unmaksed" contains similarites to the recent terrorist attacks on the United States. Here is exactly what they told me: "The original episode #47 is a little too close to home right now so this episode will not air and will be held for a future date."

Mr. Obsession
09-13-2001, 12:55 AM
Please excuse me while I go into the other room to scream profanities.

Brian Cruz
09-13-2001, 01:08 AM
Notice that they did say it will air at a future date, so all hope is not lost.

Imajine
09-13-2001, 01:20 AM
I think that's perfectly understandable... If the episode has stuff that's like the terrorist attacks, then it should definitely be postponed. At least they aren't cancelling it completely.

Mr. Obsession
09-13-2001, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Brian Cruz
Notice that they did say it will air at a future date, so all hope is not lost.

Yes, I did notice that. However, why would kidsWB bother to air an episode of a series when they don't have the rights to air any of the other episodes?

We know that CN will start airing BB on Oct. 1st., a little over two weeks away. I'm guessing that the rights to air the series (minus "Unmasked") switch to CN at some point between Monday and Sept. 30th. So unless they decide to air "Unmasked" some time next week I'm forced to conclude that we may not see "Unmasked" until CN renus the rights to air BB.

Tim Drake
09-13-2001, 04:17 AM
This very much sucks. But I understand their reasoning. So I guess we will just have to wait.

Shriek
09-13-2001, 06:59 AM
Let's go find that guy who is wanted and bring him to justice and get our Batman Beyond.

Blight
09-13-2001, 08:23 AM
Well this sucks. At least they will air it at a future date (hopefully next week), but I don't see how they can even air Hooked Up with all this WTC news on almost every single station, including WB.

See ya!
Blight

The Mad Hatter
09-13-2001, 08:25 AM
As much as I want to see "Unmasked," I think KWB did the right thing. Americans are still overwhelmed by what's happening, and if the episode does indeed contain terrorist attacks, it'll be like pouring salt on an open wound. We need time for our psyches to heal, and I don't think most people would appreciate even fictionalized terrorist attacks right now. Yes, I'm sure it's a good episode, and I'll keep an eye out for it later. But, to use an example, watching it would be like watching the episode of The Tick where he fights the Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs At Midnight. I love that episode... but right now, I just wouldn't find it funny.

When we've had time to recover, then we'll all be able to appreciate "Unmasked" for what it is, instead of involuntarily wincing at terrorist references.

Trent Lane
09-13-2001, 08:33 AM
I want to see this episode as much as anybody else, but due to the circumstances, I think I can wait on it. It's really terrible that we've got to alter many aspects of life because of this tragedy, but it's the only right thing to do...

Bird Boy
09-13-2001, 09:18 AM
oh now I'm..oooo...I'm I can't even talk..my VCR is still pre-recorded dangit!!!

*hops in a telephone booth and screams profanities*

And I don't think they should delay it. Why? because I think we need to get our minds off of the recent tradgedy..."Unmasked" would have done that!

-BB

Imajine
09-13-2001, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Bird_Boy
And I don't think they should delay it. Why? because I think we need to get our minds off of the recent tradgedy..."Unmasked" would have done that!

I disagree completely. This isn't just a recent tragedy, this is something that is still happening. Victims are still missing, several other buildings have been damaged, and the US doesn't know exactly who is responsible yet. This isn't over, and we don't need to get our minds off it. Our thoughts and prayers should stay with the victims and their families.

Bird Boy
09-13-2001, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Imajine


I disagree completely. This isn't just a recent tragedy, this is something that is still happening. Victims are still missing, several other buildings have been damaged, and the US doesn't know exactly who is responsible yet. This isn't over, and we don't need to get our minds off it. Our thoughts and prayers should stay with the victims and their families.

well, I see that, but, the more people hear about it, the more worried they will become. If we keep our thoughts on it 24/7 we're not going to be able to perform to our peak performance. We shouldn't be sitting around idle, not doing anything, because then they will have one. We have to work and keep our daily schedule so we can show them that it affected us..but not to the point where we can't work.

And, like I said before, I believe "Unmasked" would take our minds off of the subject, even if it only last 30minutes.

-BB

Mr. Obsession
09-13-2001, 03:15 PM
I admit that pulling the episode is the right thing to do. What upsets me, as I pointed out before, is that as of Oct. 1 kidsWB will only have the rights to air one BB episode which as we all know is "Unmasked". And again I must ask why would kidsWB air an episode of a series when they only have the rights to air that one episode?

What ticks me off is that kidsWB could have aired this episode months ago but for reasons unknown they decided to wait until now to air it (which has been pulled for understandable reasons). So now I'm just fearful that we won't even see the episode until CN renews the rights to air BB because of some stupid clause that won't allow them to air "Unmasked" with the rest of the series.

James Harvey
09-13-2001, 03:39 PM
I talked to YTV today and they are still unsure if they will pull PLAGUE and air a different episode. They said they still plan to air UNMASKED sometime in November.

Kathy Kane
09-13-2001, 06:53 PM
I hope they don't take forever to show the episode again.
Hmmm an older Terry, reminds me of Dark Knight Returns (sort of).

I for one can't wait and will have a tape ready for that day. :)

TuffyCatt
09-13-2001, 07:14 PM
It's amazing how this awful tragedy is affect everything. I heard that some movies are being altered because they contained the towers??? Anyway, I think Kids WB! did the right thing for now, as long as they promise to show it at a later date. If they don't, then I'll be REALLY angry!:mad:

Imajine
09-13-2001, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by TuffyCatt
I heard that some movies are being altered because they contained the towers???

I don't know if they're being altered, but Yahoo has done a story about it. http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010912/re/attack_movies_dc_3.html

Failure
09-13-2001, 08:06 PM
Doh!

Under the circumstances, i guess they did the right thing. Hopefully they will air in relatively soon, and not put it off for a year or so.

optimal321
09-13-2001, 09:21 PM
Actually, i'm not really mad at WB this time. I was angry when the postponed the other eighteen times, but now it's kinda the right thing. I agree that we should try to pick up the pieces and move on, but it still is a little too soon.

And hopefully we'll get to see it anyway. If only they'd aried it back in May...

superfreak
09-14-2001, 03:41 PM
This sucks. Those dumb ass terrorists have ruin everything for me. Not only will I not able to see Batman Beyond, They have also forced the cancellation of DC's Goddess, which I was looking foward to. :mad:

Nightwing
09-14-2001, 04:29 PM
Heh, well I'm sure we have much worse tragedies to deal with, although I am still unhappy yet understanding toward the WB's decision. I would have missed it anyway, though, because of the local news on 24/7 right now.

Theoretically, it SHOULD be on in the next three minutes, but it won't. I understand there are people who would want this, but I myself, personally, am the type of person who doesn't want to forget his strength, and just keep pushing foward. I know, however, that not everyone is the type of person who'd deal with the grief in that type of manner. So again, I understand. I'm glad they're still gonna show it eventually though.

thunderwolf429
09-14-2001, 04:51 PM
Bird Boy wrote:


And, like I said before, I believe "Unmasked" would take our minds off of the subject, even if it only last 30minutes.

Well, normally I would agree, but I got the impression that the decision was made specifically because "Unmasked" contained scenes that were reminiscent of the attack, not because they thought airing a new cartoon episode was inappropriate. I mean, they're still airing BB eps (and other cartoons), just not that particular one. So while an episode like "Hooked Up" is a diversion, "Unmasked" isn't. Of course, we'll have to wait until we see it to know what it's truly like (knock on wood). But I for one don't want to see any movies or shows with terroristic acts right now.

TW

Bird Boy
09-14-2001, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by thunderwolf429
Bird Boy wrote:



Well, normally I would agree, but I got the impression that the decision was made specifically because "Unmasked" contained scenes that were reminiscent of the attack, not because they thought airing a new cartoon episode was inappropriate. I mean, they're still airing BB eps (and other cartoons), just not that particular one. So while an episode like "Hooked Up" is a diversion, "Unmasked" isn't. Of course, we'll have to wait until we see it to know what it's truly like (knock on wood). But I for one don't want to see any movies or shows with terroristic acts right now.

TW

yeah..at the time I wrote that, I wasn't 100% that they kobras were in it (and now they are..and I think they are terrorists..hence why the delayed it.). So, my Kids WB! played "Mind Games" instead...good ep..didn't feel like watching it again though..

-BB

thunderwolf429
09-14-2001, 05:24 PM
my Kids WB! played "Mind Games" instead...

Hmm, I got "Hooked Up". I would have rather had "Mind Games". I just hope they air "Unmasked" sometime. The lack of priority they gave it makes me wonder...:(

Kathiboo
09-14-2001, 07:17 PM
I understand why WB changed some of its scheduled programming in light of what happened, even though I was also looking forward to seeing "Unmasked." While I agree with others who have posted that the networks need to "return to normal," I also can see why some episodes were chosen to air instead of others. For instance, according to the schedule I downloaded before all this happened, WB was supposed to air "Eyewitness" on Wedndesday, Sept. 12. My WB station chose to substitute it with "The Eggbaby." I thoroughly understand the change, considering Eyewitness' storyline featured the psychotic character of Mad Stan trying to threaten Commissioner Gordon with claims that he wanted to blow up the city; after he was kidnapped by Spellbinder to help frame Terry for murder, the last scene shows Mad Stan (ironically, in the same VR system used in Hooked Up, which aired Friday)pretending to enjoy blowing up City Hall. Clearly a case of hitting too close to home. In that situation, I'd call it a good call. I'm not holding my breath on when they plan to air Unmasked, though. WB has consistantly let me down when it comes to airing shows I like, and Cartoon Network is even worse. Why don't they just save us all the trouble and change their name to the Pokemon network, or as I call the show, Pukemon, because I want to vomit every time I see it on. Thanks for letting me put my two cents in.

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-14-2001, 07:32 PM
Ouch. Still, I agree with most others and say it's for the best that it may get delayed, because a bigger number o' people will be angry if it airs than the # of people who are angry if it doesn't...

But I too will be angry if they never air it, I was looking foward to it...though I say KWB is MUCH worse when it comes to not airing shows than C. Network.

Calhoun07
09-14-2001, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Brian Cruz
Kids' WB will air #21 "Hooked Up" instead of #47 "Unmaked" this Friday, because "Unmaksed" contains similarites to the recent terrorist attacks on the United States. Here is exactly what they told me: "The original episode #47 is a little too close to home right now so this episode will not air and will be held for a future date."

GOOD! I've been out of it all week long, and totally forgot what today was, and I haven't really been on the boards with all that's been going on, so I missed the posts, and today, I finally remembered I missed it. I am actually relieved by this.

Bird Boy
09-14-2001, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by thunderwolf429


Hmm, I got "Hooked Up". I would have rather had "Mind Games". I just hope they air "Unmasked" sometime. The lack of priority they gave it makes me wonder...:(


Uhhhhhh...erp...oops..I meant "Hooked Up"..I thought it was "Mind Games" as it dealt with those machines taking over their minds..now I just gotta find out what Mind Games really is so I can stop confusing myself!

-BB

Jowy Blight
09-14-2001, 09:42 PM
Please excuse me while I go into the other room to scream profanities.

I'll come with you. Seriously though, I understand why they did this. I just hope that the episode won't be pushed too far back. Though I'll really be mad if we see it, and it doesn't have anything like that in there.

Kathiboo
09-15-2001, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Bird_Boy



Uhhhhhh...erp...oops..I meant "Hooked Up"..I thought it was "Mind Games" as it dealt with those machines taking over their minds..now I just gotta find out what Mind Games really is so I can stop confusing myself!

-BB

Mind Games was the episode about the little girl who could speak to Terry telepathically and asked for help from the other mutants who were holding her prisoner to exploit her powers. Hope that helps.

RoboHobo
09-15-2001, 03:00 AM
I think it's weird that Cartoon Network showed the second episode of Cowboy Bebop again on Thursday but kidsWB didn't show Unmasked. The episode was about enviromental terrorist. Hopefully kidsWB will air Unmasked within the following weeks.

James Harvey
09-21-2001, 01:05 PM
It is expected the episode will air Sept. 28th before the enw season, but that is HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely as KWB hasn't announced it or even mentioned it. Their regular weekday schedule is expected to remain as is.

n2Deepeth
09-22-2001, 05:09 PM
Why is Batman Beyond just a dying memory? First, they edit the movie until it screams for mercy, then the series gets cancelled for poor reasons, and then the last episode isn't even displayed. I mean it was the sixth best cartoon of all time in Wizard magazine, even though it didn't have the support of extra seasons for it to get in a better place. Within a few episodes, it captured my eyes. It was such a great show. I could've imagined how far it could've gone, where we could see Terry become a formidable "descendent" of Bruce. I can't believe the show got cancelled while Terry was still a squire. Even though the Justice League is going to carry the DC legacy, I know Batman Beyond had the potential to be my favorite show of all time. It had everything: the humor, the storyline, the animation, the appropriateness for most ages, the suspense, the action, the seriousness, and the combination of the classic with the new. I really, really hope they release the non-edited version of the movie and "Unmasked" for video or dvd. Even though it began as a spin-off, it's considered a classic to me.

James Harvey
09-24-2001, 02:02 PM
It is considered a "dieing memory" becuase the show doesn't fit into KWB's plans anymore for their network. It's funny becuase the show initially began becuase KWB wanted a younger Batman to show out to the younger crowd and now the show has gotten too mature.

GirChan
09-24-2001, 10:59 PM
Well, I'm going have to agree with KWB and their choice to not air the episode. Sure, it's a tad dissapointing, yes, but it's not so bad when you really look at the whole picture.

Though, my only hope is that they don't hack up the episode to bits, or alter it too much, like the Grim and Evil cartoon episode. Still, whatever works for KWB. Who knows, maybe CN will air 'Unmasked' some time in the forseeable future.

DerekPowers
09-24-2001, 11:26 PM
i agree GirChan. Im in NYC and everyone is being very sensative and courteous. i would hate to have it air and even upset just one person, so i think its delay is a good decision. i just watched "worlds finest" last night, and jokers rampage on metropolis in the lex wing actually gave me chills. i really dont think this is a pr stunt or an act of censorship or anything like that (this goes for the editing of the other wb shows w/ possibly offensive wtc similarities) but merely respectfull and kind and just common curtousy to fellow human beings who have just been through hell. so i support the decision.

BUT

my question is....3 Kobra episodes in one season! what the hell. what about spellbinder, curare, shriek, hell, even another inque ep, do we really need to see kobra in 3 episodes??? come on, i like them, and i really loved "curse of the kobra" but still, w/ only 13 eps this past season id much rather see another villian. oh well, these are the same people who killed off blight in the first season (ofcourse i say that w/ all do respect, those guys are demi-gods in my opinion). peace.

James Harvey
09-25-2001, 11:47 AM
The reason for the Kobra was becuase it was going to lead up to something big (but now unknown) in the 4th season. Ontop of that - they were sure KWB would order 13 more episodes to bring it up to 65 instead of the initial 52.

Maxie Zeus
09-25-2001, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
The reason for the Kobra was becuase it was going to lead up to something big (but now unknown) in the 4th season. Ontop of that - they were sure KWB would order 13 more episodes to bring it up to 65 instead of the initial 52.

Ah, so the best-laid plans of bats and Bruce Timm have totally gone astray. . . :(

DerekPowers
10-01-2001, 01:35 AM
anyone have any indication of what the plans for kobra were going to be in the 4th season?

James Harvey
10-01-2001, 11:08 AM
Apparently they would be the enemy for the JLU in at least one story. It's a bit evident that the crew was trying to build up Kobra as this massive organization with many factions. While I thought Kobra was abit cliched, I definatly could see it growing and growing and being revealed as this huge evil corporation.