Spiderman movie dead?!?!

[Trent Lane]

Rumor has it that the trailers for the Spiderman movie is out of theaters now and the movie is on hold. Also, the new Arnold Schwartenager movie has been delayed from theaters. I guess it has to do with the WTC tragedies...

[Joe Tully]

I've heard that they are changing scenes in the Spidey movie to remove the towers. The towers played a part in the trailer. They are not going to kill the movie, they've put too much into it already.

Check www.spidermanhype.com for all the news.

[James Harvey]

MIB2 is also being altered, as the climax took place at TWC Go to www.comingsoon.net for updates. Thos emovies are still hitting theatres at their respective dates.

[Vigo Sprax]

Its my understanding the Spiederman trailer had really nothing at all to do with the film, simply a teaser of what the movie would be like. Therefore, I suspect that they did probably have some shots of him web slinging around NY though and they will have to be reomved.

[Joe Tully]

At Spidermanhype, they said that the whole trailer was going to be in the movie, so they'd have to at least change the ending of that, which had a criminal group's helicopter stuck in webbing between the WTC towers. Plus, like you say, they were in the background.

[Jowy Blight]

Man, you scared me greatly saying that the Spiderman movie was dead. I'm REALLY looking forward to this movie.

[Nightwing]

Yeah I heard that a couple days ago. Man I think this bites. I want to morn the tragedy same as everyone, and give my heart as well as the proper respect to the victims, but at the same time I don't want things to be changed all that much. It's like not letting the attack get to us, ya know? Returning to normal life. I don't want the terrorists to see anything's changed by reason of their cowardly act.

And not wanting the Spiderman movie altered is also a part of my feelings. Like, I want them to pull all the stops, ya know?

[Psycho Fox]

Yhea the TV execs are nuts too. It looks like the new spy shows are gona be shelfed plus I heard rumors that Fox Kids is going to shelf the Ripping Freinds ep with the war loard in it.

[Trent Lane]

Now because they're trying to make the Spidey trailer "disappear", they've got to change the trailers on several DVD's coming out from what I've heard. It's affecting a lot of different stuff. I don't think they should do all of this because of what happened. It's like they're saying the WTC didn't exsist to a point...

[James Harvey]

24 and Alias (two CIA themed shows) are still set to air, with The Agency still up in the air. The thrid show wil likely air. Now retailers are urging video stores and malls to pull movie slike Die Hard and Independacne Day from the shelves permenatly as well as never air those movies again. On top of that, retailers are also asking Steven Speilberg to digitally remove WTC from the upcoming A.I DVD release. Retailers did ask the same for the Final Fantasy DVD, but requests came too late.

Is it me, or is this getting out of hand. We want to remember WTC and the people within, not erase them from our memory.

On a sickening note, people who taped the Spider-Man movie trailer from television are selling copies of the trailer on eBay, using the WTC towers as the major selling point of the tape. How low can some people go?

[Calhoun07]

A Knight's Tale's release date (at least for the rental VHS, I am not sure about the DVD yet...) has been pushed back to Friday the 28th because it has the Spider man trailer on it. Our store, and all the other video stores, were required to send back their copies. So what next? Do we have to pull Die Hard off the shelves?

[James Harvey]

People are started to demand that just that happens. That any terrorist themed show or movie be stripped from the airwaves and taken out of theatres and off movie shelves. Is this really the way to deal with this? I know the WTC tragedy was horrific and words can barely describe, but to ask all of this seems ridiculous.

[Psycho Fox]

A Toronto entertainment columnist said a few days ago that he fears that in the months ahead execs only put on happy uplifting shows and will not dare put anything remotly depressing on.

[James Harvey]

I've read that as well and I can honestly say that I'm not looking forward to all of this if it comes to pass. With a great innovative show like 24 in jeopardy, I'd hate to think of what else may be dropped. I don't think I can stand nothing but fluffy comedies.

[Trent Lane]

Originally posted by Dick Grayson
24 and Alias (two CIA themed shows) are still set to air, with The Agency still up in the air... On top of that, retailers are also asking Steven Speilberg to digitally remove WTC from the upcoming A.I DVD release. Retailers did ask the same for the Final Fantasy DVD, but requests came too late.

So Alias isn't going to air or is being pushed back? That's gonna suck. Also, how can they have A.I. editted like that? To me, this shows that we're letting the terrorist take a small victory. I know it's dificult for people to see these buildings and the agony they may represent to them, but does it mean that we have to go and do all this? Sorry if I'm stepping on any toes, JMHO...

[Calhoun07]

It's all how it's portrayed, if you ask me. While I can kinda understand people not wanting to watch something like Die Hard or ID4 or Air Force One or whatever deals with terrorists because they still need to heal, these movies DO NOT portray terrorism in a good light. In fact, I can't think of any TV show or movie that deals with the subject matter lightly or glibly or makes it look "cool." I actually think its fun to watch a good movie like Air Force One now and see some terrorist butt get kicked around. So for them to ban this stuff from TV and movies...well, I think that's really over reacting. Entertainment such as this has it's place in the world, and I feel that we are letting the terrorists manipulate our minds if we allow this stuff to be taken away from us. The media is treating us like children who cannot handle something meant for entertainmet cuz it might be percieved as negative. Nothing, and I repeat, nothing can be as horrific as what occurred on Sept 11th. So I say leave our movies and TV shows alone.

[James Harvey]

The Agency isn't going to premiere in it's originally intended slot and has been pushed to an undisclosed date. I'm guessing CBS will delay it a week or two, like the rest of their schedule. To try and get rid of any terrorist theme movie or show is just ridiculous. Yes people are hurting from this, but we don't need to wipe it out like it never existed.

[Calhoun07]

That reminds me of something Bush said yesterday, when he vowed to put an end to "evil doers." As noble as that sounds, it's a lofty statement and goal that we will never achieve. It's like they want us to believe everything will be all rosy and peaceful and utopian again, but it never was and never will be.

[James Harvey]

You know, Spider-Man is probably gonna have to undergo some major digital changes - I wonder how much it'll cost Sony to make the changes. I'm sure it'll be a pretty penny.

[Calhoun07]

I had heard that it was only due to one scene where Spidey spins a web between the towers to catch some villian. I didn't think the changes were going to be that extensive. Probably cost more to re shoot that scene if they already shot it.

[Joe Tully]

But there were also scenes where it WTC was in the background. So they'll have to go through the whole thing, make sure they find each time Spidey's swingin' around with the towers in the background, and then digitally remove the towers. I'm sure Sony isn't happy about it, and the Special Effects folks probably aren't either.

[James Harvey]

I hear that erasing shots from movies can cost alot of money. The longer the scene, the more cash. This will definatly put SPIDER-MAN over it's $100 mill budget.

[RockItShipper]

The general thought 'round Hollywood is to spend the extra money if the element in question may hurt business. And with the money spend on Spidey so far, 'leaving it be' almost shows you don't care. And that's even worse than being overly cautious...

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[James Harvey]

I can't see that image going over good with the brass at FOX. Leaving it is can show carelessness, I suppose...

[DR. BELCH]

--difference between concern and rabid lunatic paranoia. Hacking/reshuffling schedules at the last minute and censoring every reference to a tower or an explosion is getting into the latter. I feel like I'm the one being punished, not the perpetrators, esp. after losing Cowboy Bebop and a good third of "Adult Swim". It's like telling a rape victim, "You deserved it, you tramp." Seems a thirty-second disclaimer after the opening credits would be more economically- and time-sound, and responsible, than having to reshoot and airbrush every other frame in the bloody movie. But then, Hollywood is famous for its massive, expensive gestures that scream "I care" but really do nothing.

[James Harvey]

I think we're going to soon find out how much this is going to effect Hollywood in a couple months. I can understand MIB2 redoing their ending but it may soon delve into lunacy with changing every little frame.

[Calhoun07]

Ok, why are they changing these movies now? Is it because they feel we will feel that the images of the WTC in these movies will bring back painful memories for movie goers? Yet everytime I turn on the news, they are showing some kind of replay of the terrorist attack itself. I think I'd rather see the WTC in Spider Man, all in it's former glory, rather than have to sit and watch the towers crumble on TV again. I think rather than changing these movies and potentially others, they should leave them as they are and let us see them as part of the healing process.

[I.R Joey]

I'm just thinking back to that MIB episode where K get's neuralized and J asks him.

"What's the tallest building in Manhatan."

And K says the empire state building, J corrects him and say the WTC, K doesn't believe him but then see's them for himself.

[Mr. Eye]

I think it sucks that Hollywood is trying to remove the WTC from their movies. Why should we just forget about them?

Mr. Eye

[Calhoun07]

They were wonderful structures! To eliminate them from these movies is like taking away pictures of a family member who has passed on. It's just wrong. I say let's remember these movies for being the last ones that used the WTC and showed them the way they were before they were so forcefully taken from us.

[Mr. Mayhem]

Did you say they do not want Die Hard or Independence Day to be shown or sold ever again? That's ridiculous. We can't just look at it as if the WTC never existed. That's just throwing away a piece of history. What are they going to do with the 1976 verison of King Kong? As I remember the WTC played a huge role in the ending of that movie.

[RockItShipper]

It'd be a waste of money to keep movies like that under wraps forever. Or to redub a MiB episode that was true when it was made, true the first couple of airings... ('tho, with the sequel- look for the change)

Plenty of movies feature long-gone buildings and actors... But after they're gone, no more. Even if some shooting's been done, the last project with him/her/it/them is often revamped or completely done away with. The WTC is no longer part of the NY skyline, so it makes sense that we won't see it in movies set 'now'. Anything else is really silly, even if you hate a certain movie.

[James Harvey]

Out of courisity, who's excited to see the upcoming SPIDER-MAN feature? I am personally myself, being a semi-Spidey fan. I think the movie is in great hands and an absolute perfect cast & crew.

[Joe Tully]

I sure am. I've been a Spidey-fan since I first learned about him as a kid on PBS's The Electric Company. Hopefully, Marvel will be able to keep on it's streak of making successful movies (Blade, X-Men) as opposed to the stuff made before then (Punisher, Capt. America, the aborted Fantastic Four project). It sure sounds like Spidey will be a big hit, though.

[James Harvey]

I think it will hit over $200 million. They're releasing it at just right right time, and giving it two weeks before SW Ep2 hits. I'm sur eit'll gross at least $100 mill within those two free weeks, then make it's way to $200 - 250 mill.

[The Mad Hatter]

I've always gotten a kick out of the web-head, and I've got strong hopes that this movie will stay true to his spirit. I know I'll be seeing it the day it's out...

[Calhoun07]

I'd love to see this in the theater but I have the feeling I will more than likely put it off and wind up waiting for the DVD.

[optimal321]

Well, i'm not going to set my expectations too high, unless the movie doesn't stand up to them. But...

I think it'll be great!!! It sounds great!!! It looks great!!! I don't see how it won't be great!!!

But like i said, just keeping a level head:D

[PlopKat]

This is from ZENtertainment #492. It's a list of upcoming movies that will be afftected by the tragedy in New York City last week.

"- DAMAGE was pulled due to its story about Arnold Schwarzenegger taking on a group of terrorists; TRAINING DAY moved to its October 5th release date to allow the studio to properly publicize the cop drama.
"- BIG TROUBLE, which deals with a bomb on a plane, is now expected out early next year.
"- DREAMWORKS has pulled the poster for Robert Redford's THE LAST CASTLE due to its image of the American flag flying upside down.
"- SIDEWALKS is simply a romantic comedy set in New York; it's now expected out in November.
"- SPIDER-MAN has had its trailer and teaser posted pulled for showing the World Trade Center, and scenes will either be edited or re-shot to not show the building in the film.
"- A WTC-like building shown in ZOOLANDER that the enemy uses as their headquarters is being digitally-erased.
"- The big finale of the MEN IN BLACK sequel will no longer take place at the WTC.
"- DAILY VARIETY reports TIME MACHINE is being pushed to February 8th, and an end scene where pieces of the moon fell on New York City will be removed."

© 2001 ZENtertainment (http://www.zentertainment.com)

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I'm also looking forward to the SPIDER-MAN movie. I didn't see too many movies this past summer & never got a chance to see the trailer for it. Perhaps it will make it onto the SPIDER-MAN DVD as an easter egg.

-PlopKat

[Jowy Blight]

I'm really looking forward to the Spiderman movie myself. He was the first Superhero I ever saw, and I'm a pretty big fan.


"- DREAMWORKS has pulled the poster for Robert Redford's THE LAST CASTLE due to its image of the American flag flying upside down.

Huh? first they take the WTC out of the movies, but now they can't show the American flag hanging upside down!? Honestly, this is kinda starting to annoy me.

[James Harvey]

A friend, last nite, told me that the original teaser trailer and poster will be on the DVD, as well as the new teaser and eventual regular trailer - which I'm cool with. I actually taped the trailer off E! when COMING ATTRACTIONS showed it.

[Calhoun07]

Isn't the trailer on a DVD now basically a given? For the most part, anyway.

[James Harvey]

Trailers are a must, yeah. But Sony has pulled the current Spidey teaser so whether it shows up on the disc is up in the air.

[James]

Moving the WTC trailer - perhaps for a week or so - would seem appropriate as that building holds a connection to the disaster for many people.

However the object of terrorism is fear. We shouldn't be censoring, editing and rescheduling our entertainment as a response to terrorism. That is a sign of fear.

We should fight terrorism by remaining civillized. Doing our best to ignore it and prove that such tactics will not reduce us to living in a nervous state of fear where our media has to be carefully controlled and manipulated for us. The SpiderMan trailer is a small thing, but it represents a problem that comes with such disasters - the fine line between sensitivity and censorship.

[Calhoun07]

It would be like after the Titanic went down if they had movies back then and they decided to stop showing movies with boats in them. I think seeing a good terrorist flick where they get their booty kicked SHOULD be shown now more than ever! I guess they are afraid people will act out what they see in the movies tho, I suppose.

[James Harvey]

I think in time we'll see this heal over. I ma sure we'll see this magnificent sneek peek trailer on the disc.