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Craig Marinaro
09-09-2001, 11:05 AM
http://www.snpp.com/news.html#emmys2001

Predictably, The Simpsons continues to dominate the Outstanding Animated Series category, with "HOMR" (the episode that nearly made me give the series up for good) bringing home the gold. I'll admit that I watched the episode for a second time and didn't find it quite as attrocious, if that's any compliment. Azaria also got an Emmy for Best Voiceover for the "Worst Episode Ever" (which was actually one of the better episodes this year).

My pet series Futurama did get its first Emmy this year, an Individual Achievement in Animation award, for one of the storyboarders on the gorgeous-looking episode "Parasites Lost." Small consolation, I suppose.

More Simpsons stuff: according to TV Guide, next season will include an episode with Jon Lovitz returning as Artie Ziff ("The Way We Was"), who offers Marge a million bucks to spend a weekend with him. One of the more promising plots I've heard, although we'll have to see what they do with it, I suppose.

-C

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-09-2001, 11:37 AM
Hey, the Simpsons DESERVE these awards. As for HOMR, I found that eppy rather funny. And Azaria should deserve the award as well. And it's nice to see another person who liked "Worst Episode Ever"! :)

At least Futurama is getting some recognition now, it's about time it got some awards. I think this should help out the series...

YES! Artie Ziff is coming back! I wonder how the eppy will go; remember when Homer THOUGHT of letting Artie give all his money for a night with Marge? :D

kiddiesunshine
09-09-2001, 11:48 AM
that artie... he's such a pervert. he reminds me of myself. jk.

James Harvey
09-09-2001, 02:08 PM
Ugh...FUTURAMA should have won. maybe that would have gotten it out of it's crappy timeslot. I wonder why FOX won't repeat that show on their 'rerun Wednesday' slots. FUTURAMA deserved it..

Lonestarr
09-09-2001, 02:25 PM
I loved "HOMR" and "Worst Episode Ever". We should drop to our knees and thank the maker that the winning ep wasn't something like "Tennis the Menace" or "Homer vs. Dignity". Ughh.

I will admit that Futurama ("Amazon Women in the Mood") or The Powerpuff Girls ("Meet the Beat-Alls/Moral Decay") should have won.

The return of Artie Ziff? They already did that ("The Front"). From what I've been hearing, this is sounding like a retread. But still, it's better than an all-around bad ep.

Thad Komorowski
09-09-2001, 02:49 PM
I liked "HOMR" and "Worst Episode Ever". They were the funniest episodes. At least the Emmy wasn't for a BAD Simpsons episode like "Bye, Bye, Nerdy", which IMHO, is truly one of the "Worst Episode[s] Ever"

-Thad:D

Dee
09-09-2001, 02:52 PM
SIMPSONS ROCKS! Don't knock it!

Craig Marinaro
09-09-2001, 03:05 PM
SIMPSONS ROCKS! Don't knock it!

Well, seeing as how this is a forum where the exchange of opinions is encouraged (if it's in a civilized manner), and seeing as how I miss the days when the show actually had some depth to it, I'll knock it as much as I like. Of course, I won't knock *YOU* for disagreeing with me.

I completely forgot about that bit in "The Front." Well, it still sounds like a better episode than "Homer gets addicted to medicinal marijuana." =X

James Harvey
09-09-2001, 03:37 PM
I do have hope for the series this coming season with Mike Scully off the team. Maybe it can get some of that dignity back. Wathcing old episodes just makes me almost weep during the new ones, for how low the show has gotten.

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-09-2001, 03:53 PM
WHOA! Mike Scully left the team?! I never knew that! :eek:

Still, I try not to knock him-yes, the quality went down, but many good pot points had been used up, and they were forced to go into more zany territory due to most major char development having been done already; Scully and other Simpsons production members said that doing all the "happy love dovy stuff" cannot be relied upon forever....(though I STILL liked that)

...and under him some new chars, like Apu for example got a big share in the limelight. Besides, there were STILL some good eppys under his time-remember the flashback eppy where Lisa got her sax?

Dee
09-09-2001, 10:09 PM
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Sharklady
09-09-2001, 10:22 PM
While I certainly don't deny that past 'Simpsons' eps have been as funny as anything on television, the show unfortunately looks to be past it's peak, so it doesn't seem fair for it to continue winning *all* the 'Best Animated Show' Emmys.

My own favorite nominee still is.

Dante Bunny
09-09-2001, 11:13 PM
By kiddiesunshine
that artie... he's such a pervert. he reminds me of myself. jk.



Artie reminds me of a japanise anime pervert, Master Roshi, from Dragonball and DBZ.



About Simpsons won an emmy, I thought the Powerpuff Girls won an emmy this year.

Calhoun07
09-09-2001, 11:23 PM
Makes me wonder if the Grammys and the MTV VMAs have the same thing in common...being fixed. Sorry to it's fans, I count myself among them, but the last season of Simpsons blew chunks. I have hope for the new season, tho, and will watch it.

DR. BELCH
09-10-2001, 04:02 AM
...compared with some of the other stuff on TV, Simpsons seems to be the dark horse candidate. "HOMR" was a mixed bag--it had a good idea but it's execution was off. If they were going for the pathos of Charly, they could have done better with the ending...Homer choosing to be ignorant because his newfound brains made him miserable bothered me. I suppose they wanted Homer not to fight regressing to ignorance like Charly did to make the script something original and diffferent...but still...it felt sour. Lisa didn't help much with her graph showing the correlation between brains and unhappiness, either. Just be grateful it wasn't "Simpson's Tall Tales" or "New Kids on the Blecch" that garnered the Emmy.
My Fox feed was clear tonight--miracle of bloody miracles-- so I saw episodes of Futurama and Simpsons I missed. First was the ep with the alien balls, which was basically a pretty dodgy joke premise ("These balls are getting testy!") as well as that wierd cross-dressing Midsummer Night's Dream/Twelfth Night dynamic between Brannigan and "Pvt. Lemon". A couple of laughs early on in The Simpsons, like Bart playing with the taps while Homer was in the shower, making his moans of pain play a little song and Grampa imitating Tom Jones...and the metahumor inherent in Grampa complaining about all that mess at the funeral home to get a tennis court ("Betcha didn't see that coming!" Homer says) and Homer telling Bart after he's been replaced by a female tennis player that he's a girl (since it's a woman who voices him)...but the weak ending and Homer's horse's-arsery left me shaking my head.
Artie Ziff returns? I wonder if they'll sneak a Jay Sherman cameo into the mix, if they're getting Lovitz back behind the mike....

Dee
09-10-2001, 06:14 AM
Man it just hit me again that I wont see any more Simpsons because the station here has dropped fox for Wb... and right after MIB is gone.


NOOOO! NO EPISODES OF THE SIMPSONS!? what horror is this!!??

The Mad Hatter
09-10-2001, 11:59 AM
Well, that's the Emmys for you... instead of nominating truly innovative, new "break-out" shows, they just go for the usual stuff from shows that have been around forever. John Lithgow from 3rd Rock From the Sun said last year that he was actually embarassed to be nominated yet again when there were so many new faces that were more deserving... and Lithgow got nominated AGAIN this year. So it's no surprise that familiar, comfortable Simpsons would get the nod over the better Futurama episode.

And since many of you have heard my stance too many times already, here it is again: Simpsons quality has gone down a lot, show is still funnier than 95% of the swill on prime time, last season has shown signs of getting better, I didn't really have a problem with HOMR or Worst Episode Ever (that's the one where the Comic Book Guy and Ms. Skinner hook up, right) even though they might not be classics, blah blah blah etc.

Calhoun07
09-10-2001, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Simpsons quality has gone down a lot, show is still funnier than 95% of the swill on prime time

Odd, cuz the last season of the Simpsons was one I counted among the 95% of the swill! :eek:

James Harvey
09-10-2001, 12:53 PM
I wasn't suprised when the Simpsons was nominated, although was pleasently suprised when FOX's "American High" won in reality program becuase that was actually a really good show that ended too early. I'm hoping to see those reruns.

I still say FUTURAMA deserved the win.

Anthonynotes
09-10-2001, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Delia97
Man it just hit me again that I wont see any more Simpsons because the station here has dropped fox for Wb... and right after MIB is gone.


NOOOO! NO EPISODES OF THE SIMPSONS!? what horror is this!!??

Hmm....it seems doubtful that Fox would let the state of Maine (I presume where the network-hopping affiliate's located based on your "location" tag) go without such shows as "When Animals Attack IV: Revenge of the Sharks" or "Family Guy", so I'd assume one of three possibilities:

1. Your cable company might try to import, if it's technicall feasible, a Fox station from outside Maine (from Rhode Island/Connecticut? Not too familiar with New England's layout of stations and such...). I recall in Lafayette, Indiana that the cable co. there imported (via microwave relay) WTTW-Channel 11 from Chicago (a PBS affiliate, Chicago being 100 miles north of Lafayette). Though the picture wasn't the sharpest admittedly....and of course, terrain here in the midwest is pretty flat (and WTTW's in the third-largest city in the country with plenty of tall buildings to cast its signal off of)...


2. Some smaller cities that lost a major network affiliate wound up having low-powered TV stations established (that'd have a signal powerful enough to reach across a single city/county) that'd carry the network's programs. Example: the northern Indiana city of South Bendlost its long-time ABC affiliate to the grasp of Fox, and lacking available existing TV stations, a low-powered station was started up that reaches the city of South Bend and a few outlying areas, but not with the reach that the old station had. Presumably, those lying in the outlying areas where its signal doesn't reach would have to watch ABC from stations in either Grand Rapids Michigan, Chicago, Fort Wayne Indiana, or Indianapolis, which all lie north, south, east, and west of South Bend to varying degrees (and all have ABC affiliates)...

3. Some smaller cities with a lack of TV channels available for the WB/UPN to be seen on full-fledged have an affiliate with the main networks to carry WB/UPN shows as a "secondary" affiliate...i.e., they'll run some/most of the WB lineup of prime-time shows during the late-night hours or some other off-time. Disadvantages: not all the shows from the WB/UPN might get carried, and of course, one might have to put up with one's shows being seen late at night.

Of course, the remote possiblity exists that since Fox's reach across the country isn't *absolutely* 100%, they might consider ignoring Maine viewers and figure that they won't add up to enough people to have an impact ratings-wise...but this seems quite unlikely.

My presumption would be one of the above three scenarios will occur, so I wouldn't count out not being able to see the new "Simpsons" episodes yet...

-B.
Is thinking his TV's going to wind up being a giant paperweight this fall, with a lack of any TV shows he's interested in save for "Bullwinkle" reruns....

Craig Marinaro
09-10-2001, 04:24 PM
Besides, there were STILL some good eppys under his time-remember the flashback eppy where Lisa got her sax?

Actually, that *WASN'T* a Scully ep. At the time, Scully and his crew could only turn out around 22 episodes a year, but the network demanded 25 episodes. So they called back some of the old executive producers to do a few eps (i.e., David Mirkin did the "cult" episode). If you check the credits of "Lisa's Sax," it was executive produced by Al Jean & Mike Reiss, and written by Al Jean.

Scully *DID* make some episodes that I liked (and even the ones that I didn't like overall often had their moments). But his run was so far inferior to everything else in the show's canon, I'm grateful to see Jean returning. Here's hoping.

Nftnat
09-11-2001, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Delia97
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09-11-2001, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Delia97

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Originally posted by Nftnat


With sardines?

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DR. BELCH
09-11-2001, 11:54 AM
One of the stranger MIB episodes. I still shudder to think of the...um...mechanics of the alien birth.... :eek:
I teased my sister-in-law about her cravings while was pregnant, suggesting pickles and ice cream and such. I stopped as soon as she threatened to be sick all over my shoes....:p