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Space Cadet
01-19-2003, 04:38 PM
Do you have a love/hate relationship with your parents?

VinceA
01-19-2003, 04:59 PM
In the end, who doesn't :)

My kids will tell me that they hate me & love me on the same day (sometimes within the same hour).

Calhoun07
01-19-2003, 05:45 PM
You can't really hate somebody unless you love them. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. So I think it's natural for there to be a love hate in parent/kid releationships. I remember times my parents told me they hated me and I remember times I hated them, but we still love each other. You will love the person but sometimes hate the things they do.

TimTwoFace
01-19-2003, 06:49 PM
I love my parents, we pretty much get along - and that goes for my brothers and sisters, too.

Most people my age start to like their parents again. It's the years from 13-17 when children start fighting back, just to prove how "independent" and "grown up" they are. Now it's generally regarded as cool when hanging with your folks.

-Tim

Cogliostro
01-19-2003, 06:49 PM
I would say its more of love then hate but of course there are times that we hate them...I have a great relationship with my parents, not the closes I admit but still wonderful...

It's funny I just changed my sig and it contains stuff about parents, so this topic caught my attention.

Outlander00
01-19-2003, 07:14 PM
yeah... Its love/hate with my parents and I...

Mitsuko
01-19-2003, 08:45 PM
Yes, of course I love my parents. I think everyone would, mostly. They are of course over-protective and that could be annoying, but it's only because they care about me.

-Mitsuko

Failure
01-19-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Calhoun07
You can't really hate somebody unless you love them. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

I don't mean to go o/t, but I've wondered about this statement, but why is the opposite of love indifference? It seems obvious to me, that if love is the highest levels of the emotion of caring, then hate would be the lowest level of that same emotion. Indifference doesn't even seem to fit into the equation there.

ZorBrak
01-20-2003, 01:15 AM
My parents drive me nuts...but they're ok I guess >_<

Digu Volz
01-20-2003, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Failure
I don't mean to go o/t, but I've wondered about this statement, but why is the opposite of love indifference? It seems obvious to me, that if love is the highest levels of the emotion of caring, then hate would be the lowest level of that same emotion. Indifference doesn't even seem to fit into the equation there.

Well, I'm not the poster, but it could be said that not caring is the opposite of caring, 'cause if you hate someone you still 'care' -- if in a negative way -- thus indifference and love.

Discloner
01-20-2003, 01:26 AM
Parents are one of the only people that You can love to hate...and Hate to love all in the same day! :p

sCoRpiO
01-20-2003, 07:30 AM
i love my parents and they're always there to help me...and they are a part of my life :)

Calhoun07
01-20-2003, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Failure
I don't mean to go o/t, but I've wondered about this statement, but why is the opposite of love indifference? It seems obvious to me, that if love is the highest levels of the emotion of caring, then hate would be the lowest level of that same emotion. Indifference doesn't even seem to fit into the equation there.

Because when you're indifferent, you just don't care. Hate and love are two types of passions which are quite similar. And what Digu Volz said. If you hate somebody you used to love, you still have emotions for them. And in my personal experience, it's often the things you hate that you are somehow attracted to (and this isn't always in relationships, it can be in many things). It's a condition of the human experience as old as time itself.

Clayface
01-20-2003, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Calhoun07
You can't really hate somebody unless you love them.


I don't agree with that statement at all. I hate Osama bin Laden and Hitler, and I can assure you I've never had any love for them

As for my parents, I wouldn't say I hate them, but I certainly don't love them. More than anything I want to be rid of them.

Crystalfox0
01-20-2003, 01:02 PM
Well ummmm....I would say that I definately love my parents, but our relationship is more of friendship than anything else.

Calhoun07
01-20-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Clayface

I don't agree with that statement at all. I hate Osama bin Laden and Hitler, and I can assure you I've never had any love for them



Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that you hate the things they do/have done and the things they stand for? How could you ever hate a person you've never met? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying these men are worthy of any affection, but what if we knew Hitler before he turned to politics? The Adolph Hitler who was a struggling artist? And you never saw his darker side? What if you connected to the artist and became friends with him? You can't really know because you never met him, but you still hate the things he did and stood for. When you hate somebody for personal reasons, it's always somebody you know personally and there is some kind of passion involved. That's what I am talking about.

And to compare a love/hate relationship between family members and the context of my statement and to put a comment about Osama and Hitler into the mix isn't really keeping the discussion in the same field. I was referring to personal relationships. But I do also think that sometimes the things we hate in our personal lives are the things we may struggle with. An example (and I don't want the thread to devolve off topic into this) would be homophobia. It's often believed (and I think correctly so) that the people who are homophobic often have feelings of that nature in them that they are trying to surpress. But like I said before, I prefer to keep the topic in the context of close, personal relationships.

Clayface
01-20-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Calhoun07
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that you hate the things they do/have done and the things they stand for?



In my opinion, we are what we do and what we stand for. We are defined by what we do and what we stand for. They are one in the same. Thus, if you do things and stand for things I hate, then yes, I hate you.

The Detective
01-20-2003, 05:04 PM
I love my parents and my patents love me. :D :D :D

jeffrey 228
01-20-2003, 07:57 PM
Well I my self don't hate my mom, she is nice she has alot of friends and most trustful and all, so I don't have any complaints.

Pyro
01-20-2003, 10:34 PM
I feel that the ones you hate the most are the ones you love the most. I don't think I could ever really "hate" my parents though. I might say it sometimes but I ultimately love them and probably say it out of anger.

cross blues
01-21-2003, 02:13 AM
I love my mom, but unfortunately the meanest and most disgusting human being I know happens to be my dad, so I hate him. No love/hate, just hate.

Bartak123
01-21-2003, 02:37 AM
I come from a very traditional family. I fear and respect my father. He is my source of wisdom. My mother is a loving mother. My parents fit into their respective role. My father is my guide of masculinity and my mother is my guide of femininty. Since, I respect masculinity more than I respect femininty I respect my father more than my mother. Do I hate or love them? I do not despise them. Do I love them. So many different types. I do not think I love them. Do I trust them? Yes, I do. Experience tells me this.

The_NewCatwoman
01-21-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
Do you have a love/hate relationship with your parents?

Yup. I love my mother, but sometimes I just reeallllyyyy want to move out. Too bad I'm only sixteen and can't support myself on my own yet. If only college would just come sooner! :(

The_NewCatwoman
01-21-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by TimTwoFace
I love my parents, we pretty much get along - and that goes for my brothers and sisters, too.

Most people my age start to like their parents again. It's the years from 13-17 when children start fighting back, just to prove how "independent" and "grown up" they are. Now it's generally regarded as cool when hanging with your folks.

-Tim

I'm /right/ there in that little range. I guess it'll be over soon though. I hope.

Floydian Slip
01-21-2003, 10:26 PM
i absolutely hate my parents.
i have my reasons, which are good ones, and i'm not gonna say anymore then that.

Patrick Bateman
01-22-2003, 02:09 AM
Definately. My mom gets the brunt of it, even though she doesn't deserve it. I love her to pieces, but she still has this idea that she can tell me what to do and when to do it, what I can and can't say, and what I should or shouldn't do. I'm an adult. I have the right to do and think whatever I want. That's where the hate side comes from.

And with my dad, it's really complicated. I love the guy, but only when I'm not around him or talking to him on the phone. We're just too different, and putting us together causes nothing but clashing personalities.



-@

Moonbay
01-22-2003, 03:07 AM
Me and my parents certainly arent "close," but I guess when I really think about it I love my mother. I use to think she hated my guts. I'd ask her, "Would you be sad if I died??" And she just stare at me funny. ^_^ But my dad, he's scary. I try to think that deep down, I do love him, but I can't feel it. We live together, yet act like total strangers. U__U He never hugged me or anything like that, but I guess it's the way he grew up. *shrug* He never uses my name. Unless you'd call "move it" a pet name, but.....