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livingfruitvirus
01-16-2003, 12:52 PM
If you check the updated schedule thread, you'll notice a few changes and updates....

- Reign has titles for episodes 1-12
- Lupin the Third will cut off early at episode 16 and not 26. The same week Reign begins.
- Williams Street shows will be all repeats in February.
- "The Venture Brothers" special will premiere.
- The Brak Show moves to 12 AM and 12:15 AM in March. Aqua Teen moves to 12:30 AM and Sealab 2021 to 12:45 AM.

So discuss changes here. :)

Killtacular
01-16-2003, 01:29 PM
I can't believe Williams Street is being this stingy.. why only one new episode of a show per night? Do you really fear that you'll have nothing new to offer in the spring or something?

JUST AIR THE DAMN EPISODES. I'm sure your target audience doesn't give a crap if you play them all right away and then repeat them. I mean it's not like you advertise the new episodes of anime.. EVER.

painaxl
01-16-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
If you check the updated schedule thread, you'll notice a few changes and updates....

- Reign has titles for episodes 1-12
- Lupin the Third will cut off early at episode 16 and not 26. The same week Reign begins.
- Williams Street shows will be all repeats in February.
- "The Venture Brothers" special will premiere.
- The Brak Show moves to 12 AM and 12:15 AM in March. Aqua Teen moves to 12:30 AM and Sealab 2021 to 12:45 AM.

So discuss changes here. :)

Personally, I don't understand the idea of heavily promoting your weeknight showings of AS (getting press about it, even) and then showing all old episodes with it. Seems kinda silly to me.

What I want to know is what anyone has heard about the Venture Brothers.

KingKoopa
01-16-2003, 01:47 PM
And Adult Swim takes on another trait of Toonami.

JeffTMBG
01-16-2003, 02:30 PM
Only 16 episodes of Lupin before reruns? Bah! I wonder what chance there is of new ones playing after the batch of reruns. More likely they'll just repeat it ad naseum as Trigun comes in. Or maybe they'll drop Lupin and put on Inu Yasha. Meanwhile, YYH and Cowboy Bebop will continue. I never manage to understand CNs schedule.

Killtacular
01-16-2003, 02:45 PM
What I want to know is what anyone has heard about the Venture Brothers.

It's by Chris McCulloch, a writer/storyboarder for The Tick (7 episodes of the cartoon and a couple of the live-action series) and a Monkeysuit artist.

Mynd Hed
01-16-2003, 05:29 PM
That kind of stinks that they're cutting Lupin off early, I'm really getting into that show. Oh well, as long as we get to see the other episodes eventually... anybody happen to know how many episodes CN has the rights to? Is it just the first 26, or is it more?

Nik Jam
01-16-2003, 05:36 PM
Interesting how they picked Brak instead of ATHF for the double. doesn't look like ATHF will have that oppurtinity since Birdman should be back by May

The Landstander
01-16-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by NikJam
Interesting how they picked Brak instead of ATHF for the double. doesn't look like ATHF will have that oppurtinity since Birdman should be back by May

this is based on nothing, but i think that ATHF will have the double the next month. that is, unless the new episodes start, which we all pray will.

jeffrey 228
01-16-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by JeffTMBG
Only 16 episodes of Lupin before reruns? Bah! I wonder what chance there is of new ones playing after the batch of reruns. More likely they'll just repeat it ad naseum as Trigun comes in. Or maybe they'll drop Lupin and put on Inu Yasha. Meanwhile, YYH and Cowboy Bebop will continue. I never manage to understand CNs schedule.

In that case it repeats the very old sunday night line up of coruse and it seems like the comedy has returned, must be the ratings issue.

sl4
01-16-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by jeffrey 228
In that case it repeats the very old sunday night line up of coruse and it seems like the comedy has returned, must be the ratings issue.
...What? I'm sorry, but could you reword that? I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say. :o

talibancity
01-16-2003, 07:48 PM
They should definetely switch Lupin and Reign in February. If CN only has one ASA show on, it should be as early as possible. Remember ratings, CN? New episodes attract more ppl! But quite honestly I'd rather see Inu Yasha reruns than Lupin. I know this is only a matter of opinion, but 16 eps of Lupin gets older a lot quicker than 38 (or however many it is) rerun eps of Inu Yasha. I mean, every 3 weeks they'll be recycling the Lupin eps once again. What this may become is just a constant rotation of 4 shows (Inu, Lupin, Reign, Trigun) trying to fit into a 1-hour time slot. Lord knows they wouldnt touch YuYu or Bebop (not that I have anything against them). But come March when Trigun comes on with new eps, then that'll bump off Lupin, and then Inu Yasha will come back and bump off Reign, and on and on...

JDuncan
01-16-2003, 07:51 PM
On the updated schedule, lupin's 2nd run 10th episode is new, could it be the nazi one?

sl4
01-16-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by jdoggg
On the updated schedule, lupin's 2nd run 10th episode is new, could it be the nazi one?

No, actually that's an error. That episode airs on the first run, and actually it's the ninth episode, the schedule has the wrong number too. :o

JDuncan
01-16-2003, 08:05 PM
I see, they moved the numbers to compensate for episode three, the Hitler one, not airing.

KingKoopa
01-16-2003, 08:47 PM
I think they should've bumped Reign to March instead of cutting off Lupin early. I'd rather have Reign delayed than push Lupin into endless repeats.

Anime Freak
01-16-2003, 08:58 PM
16 episodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF? Sorry,but thats just crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's probably going to be the shortest amount of new episodes that Adult Swim has ever shown for an anime show! *Not counting Reign, since its only13 anyways!*. I thought Inuyasha was bad,but this is crazy! Can someone please explain whats going on in their heads?

EscaflownePilot
01-17-2003, 09:57 AM
Let's see... we have InuYasha that hasn't rerun at all, and with 36 episodes, it will have been over 6 months since its debut. Then there's Lupin III, with only 26 episodes, that will repeat beginning after episode 16. Is it really supposed to make sense for them to take off the show that has had new episodes since late August that many people would actually want to see again, yet rerun episodes that aired a mere 4-5 weeks earlier...

I understand wanting to keep the final hour at 1:00 with reruns rather than new or even semi-new (like the InuYasha reruns) shows, but if you're going to rerun something, take off Lupin and put on InuYasha reruns...

Ideally, though, I don't see why they just don't air all 26 Lupin III, then repeat them when more time has passed - then take it off to air InuYasha again.

Is the Lupin III dubbing behind, or something? It just doesn't seem like CN to repeat a show this early...
::Thinks of Tranformers Armada and He-Man::
Never mind...

Amano Ginji
01-17-2003, 01:01 PM
What is the Venture Brothers special?


Sorry for this being a stupid question.

CLStorm
01-17-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
And Adult Swim takes on another trait of Toonami.

At least one of those blocks has a future.

drippynmeatwad
01-17-2003, 03:59 PM
there can't be all repeats all February!!!

Tara Lapinski beat michelle kwan on my birthday, and WS reruns...
WHY IS MY BITHDAY SO HORRIBLE!!!

livingfruitvirus
01-17-2003, 06:44 PM
btw, for those who are curious. "Reign" is TV-14.

Also the Futurama episode "A Tale of Two Santas" [3ACV03] also breaks the trend and receives a TV-14.

Mugen
01-17-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
btw, for those who are curious. "Reign" is TV-14.



Uh oh...

Killtacular
01-17-2003, 06:56 PM
..what were you expecting it to be?

Animation Otaku
01-17-2003, 07:05 PM
Reign's content definately warrants TV-MA so if it's TV-14 it must be either edited bad or CN's gone bonkers.

KingKoopa
01-17-2003, 07:09 PM
Considering what CN gets away with on Inuyasha at PG, maybe they HAVE gone bonkers.

Nin-Nin69
01-17-2003, 07:19 PM
First Adult Swim is extended from Sun-Thurs, but at a later time. And now they're trying to kill off their best shows by having endless repeats? Wow! Those guys at WS are really starting to loose it now. They can't deside what to do. Its time we march down there and get some straight answers to all this bs the fans are getting. :mad:

Mugen
01-17-2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
Considering what CN gets away with on Inuyasha at PG, maybe they HAVE gone bonkers.

OH THAT WACKY CN! NEXT THING YOU KNOW, BERSERK WILL BE ON ADULT SWIM WITH A TV-14 RATING!

KingKoopa
01-17-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
OH THAT WACKY CN! NEXT THING YOU KNOW, BERSERK WILL BE ON ADULT SWIM WITH A TV-14 RATING! I'm not saying it'll run uncut by any means. But don't expect it to be completely butchered, either. It WILL be edited. We'll find out how much later.

pabcool
01-17-2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
Considering what CN gets away with on Inuyasha at PG, maybe they HAVE gone bonkers.

Pardon Me? InuYasha Is Rated TV-14-V.

Artemis
01-17-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Animation Otaku
Reign's content definately warrants TV-MA so if it's TV-14 it must be either edited bad or CN's gone bonkers.

Hopefully the latter. ;)


So this new schedule? I don't get it. Cutting Lupin off at 16 makes no sense to me. And outside of Reign (and Futurama since it's new to AS), it's gonna be all reruns for February. And isn't that sweeps month?

Mugen
01-17-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by pabcool
Pardon Me? InuYasha Is Rated TV-14-V.

That's the overall rating for the series. Each episode is rated differently. There was one episode where Kikyo was nude and it was rated TV-PG. Needless to say, KingKoopa and Matt Wilson were surprised.

Ikwig
01-17-2003, 09:07 PM
Sigh. . . Repeating Lupin after 16 eps; no Inu Yasha reruns; Yu Yu Hakusho endlessly repeated with no new eps in sight. . .

Well, on the bright side, I won't be using nearly as much video tape as I feared I would when the weeknight schedule started! :rolleyes:

moreysurf8
01-18-2003, 09:27 AM
I was really hoping they were going to rerun inu-yasha..... it hasn't been rerun much......so how are new fans supposed to catch the first batch of ep's . The DVD's only have 6 episodes. yet everyone and their mother has seen cowboy bebop at least twice. Don't get me wrong I love CB but......I think it's needs a break

Obi
01-18-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
..what were you expecting it to be?

TV-MA, from all the talk of CN supposedly going "all ages" starting this month.

Killtacular
01-18-2003, 12:20 PM
You can't expect immediate progress just because they switched labels. It just means they'll be able to take things even further than they have before. The BS&P might still not be ready for a TV-MA show yet.

Obi
01-19-2003, 08:02 AM
But if they were ready for a TV-MA show last year (Rejected), why not this year?

NewLib
01-19-2003, 08:56 AM
No they weren't, because it obviously hasnt shown yet.

KingKoopa
01-19-2003, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Obi
But if they were ready for a TV-MA show last year (Rejected), why not this year? Rejected was TV-14.

Joe Tully
01-19-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
Rejected was TV-14.

I don't think we got the final word either way.

Personally, I don't believe anything about the ratings until I see the ratings box on my TV. And even that doesn't seem to be 100% right, judging from the first episode of Lupin. TV-G my ass. :p

William C. Maune
01-19-2003, 03:06 PM
[indent]Even with CN being an all ages network, that doesn't mean they are suddenly going to start showing a bunch of TV-MA stuff. Most all cable networks are all ages and less than half (probably far less) of the non-pay cable (HBO, etc.) cable channels shows TV-MA programming. I'm sure there are more, but only FX, Comedy Central and TNN come to mind at the moment.

Mugen
01-19-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by William C. Maune
_____Even with CN being an all ages network, that doesn't mean they are suddenly going to start showing a bunch of TV-MA stuff. Most all cable networks are all ages and less than half (probably far less) of the non-pay cable (HBO, etc.) cable channels shows TV-MA programming. I'm sure there are more, but only FX, Comedy Central and TNN come to mind at the moment.

What rating did the Godfather get when it ran uncut on TNN?

Personally, I don't believe anything about the ratings until I see the ratings box on my TV. And even that doesn't seem to be 100% right, judging from the first episode of Lupin. TV-G my ass.

I guess CN thought that Lupin and his antics were suitable for family viewing. :D

William C. Maune
01-19-2003, 04:37 PM
[indent]I assume TV-MA, but I do not know for sure.

Obi
01-19-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
Rejected was TV-14.

I don't know if I have a bad memory or not, but I could have sworn that Rejected was going to air uncut at TV-MA until some stupid exec pulled it because "he didn't get it".

Daisuke Jigen
01-19-2003, 09:53 PM
This upsets me more than anything else. The DVDs don't even come out fast enough to pass the series on TV.

Why not just give Sunday to ASA, and stick Trigun, and Reign Cowboy Bebop on there, and leave Lupin alone with the com-o-dee on weeknights? :mad:

DarthNuriko
01-20-2003, 07:15 PM
If anything should've moved aside for Reign, it should've been Bebop or Yu Yu. Actually I think it applies for whatever new series come aboard. The stuff that's been shown over and over again gets a break first. Old comedy moves aside for new comedies, old action moves aside for new action. I don't get their logic at all.

jeffrey 228
01-20-2003, 07:18 PM
And I have a feeling it will be like this for awhile and all.

KingKoopa
01-20-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Obi
I don't know if I have a bad memory or not, but I could have sworn that Rejected was going to air uncut at TV-MA until some stupid exec pulled it because "he didn't get it". TV-MA was pure specualtion, but we got word from a reliable source that it was scheduled to be TV-14.

livingfruitvirus
01-20-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by KingKoopa
TV-MA was pure specualtion, but we got word from a reliable source that it was scheduled to be TV-14.

I think nothing confirmed TV-14. Or Don himself.....or both.

Dogasu
01-20-2003, 11:05 PM
Do we really know that CN has become an all-ages network? I mean, we really have absolutely no proof...somebody just speculated that it would become an all-ages network, out of the blue, and now it is because somebody said so? Sorry, don't buy it.

As for the schedule...can't really add too much that hasn't been said. All I can say is that I'll finally be able to play my video games at night now :D Just in time for my Zelda pre-order bonus GameCube disc to arrive.

And guys, the ratings system is obviously flawed. I mean, Gundam Wing Uncut had the little TV-Y7 rating tacked on it for like a run and a half before somebody stepped in and said "hey, this airing is different from the afternoon airing...let's give it a more suitable rating." I wouldn't get all antsy over a TV-G rating for Lupin. Sheesh.

jeffrey 228
01-20-2003, 11:26 PM
And only because there still saying that CN has to still stay near it's TV-Y7 limit.

KingKoopa
01-21-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Dogasu
Do we really know that CN has become an all-ages network? I mean, we really have absolutely no proof...somebody just speculated that it would become an all-ages network, out of the blue, and now it is because somebody said so? Sorry, don't buy it.

As for the schedule...can't really add too much that hasn't been said. All I can say is that I'll finally be able to play my video games at night now :D Just in time for my Zelda pre-order bonus GameCube disc to arrive.

And guys, the ratings system is obviously flawed. I mean, Gundam Wing Uncut had the little TV-Y7 rating tacked on it for like a run and a half before somebody stepped in and said "hey, this airing is different from the afternoon airing...let's give it a more suitable rating." I wouldn't get all antsy over a TV-G rating for Lupin. Sheesh. Gundam Wing Uncut was ALWAYS TV-PG. You must remember the edited version or something. Also, I think CN announced they became an all-ages network or something, but I'm not sure about that, so don't quote me.

Dogasu
01-21-2003, 06:29 AM
Gundam Wing Uncut was ALWAYS TV-PG. You must remember the edited version or something.

No, I'm remembering the uncut version on the Midnight Run. They had the TV-Y7 even though there was blood and all that mild swearing throughout. I remember talking about it on a mailing list and how the rating system wasn't always right. In fact, when I go home on my next school break, I can dig out my old tapes from back then and prove it.