Some questions...

[RogueMartian]

Last night Adult Swim started its weeknight run, and it looked good. But I have had some issues with it:

1: Aren't ratings going to go down?
18 year olds may be able to remember to set the vcr once a week so they can go partying on saturday night. And almost no one can say they can't stay up late on saturday. But every day? Not to mention it starts so late. Adult swim on sundays used to start at 10. I had hoped that would continue...but 11 -2 am on a tuesday night is a dead slot. That's why they used to put shows like the flinstones on at that time. I have an eerie feeling that ratings for any of our beloved anime on AS is going to plummet.

2: This is just a question born out of my ignorance: What happened to Trigun and Big O 2?
This new stuff was supposed to be on AS I thought. I remember reading about it a while ago, what happened?

3: In the words of the great Sealab 2021: Why so short?
The anime AS fans were happy because we had anime from 11 pm to 2 am. But now anime doesn't start until midnight. We lost an hour of anime. I don't want to upset any of the comedy AS fans, because I do love futurama and the other shows. But AS still gets its whole comedy block on sundays, I feel sorta short changed on this one.

Okay, the flames and hopefully some answers can begin.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by RogueMartian
Last night Adult Swim started its weeknight run, and it looked good. But I have had some issues with it:

1: Aren't ratings going to go down?
18 year olds may be able to remember to set the vcr once a week so they can go partying on saturday night. And almost no one can say they can't stay up late on saturday. But every day? Not to mention it starts so late. Adult swim on sundays used to start at 10. I had hoped that would continue...but 11 -2 am on a tuesday night is a dead slot. That's why they used to put shows like the flinstones on at that time. I have an eerie feeling that ratings for any of our beloved anime on AS is going to plummet.

I think the idea is that AS will bring in ratings higher than whatever was on in this timeslot before. I guess it's possible that ratings could suck, but they're probably hoping to do as well as other late night programming like Conan and Carson Daly. And Tech TV has Anime Unleashed on at 1, so I guess there must be some market for it. Mostly amongst insomniac college kids.


2: This is just a question born out of my ignorance: What happened to Trigun and Big O 2?
This new stuff was supposed to be on AS I thought. I remember reading about it a while ago, what happened?

Trigun is coming in March, Big O 2 just started in Japan and is expected to be here in late 2003.


3: In the words of the great Sealab 2021: Why so short?
The anime AS fans were happy because we had anime from 11 pm to 2 am. But now anime doesn't start until midnight. We lost an hour of anime. I don't want to upset any of the comedy AS fans, because I do love futurama and the other shows. But AS still gets its whole comedy block on sundays, I feel sorta short changed on this one.

Okay, the flames and hopefully some answers can begin.

Fair call I guess. Personally, I think that animation as comedy is more accepted by the mainstream, which is probably why we're seeing that more than the anime, but it does kinda suck that it is on so late and all.

[Killtacular]

You didn't lose an hour, you gained five.

[Achika]

No actually we did lose an hour. Not to mention two great series.

[JDuncan]

Action is on for 8 hours a week, Comedy is on for seven. Action has two shows with episodes new to american television, comedy has none.

[Agaetis Byrjun]

Be happy that your getting any Anime
and Trigun and Big O is also coming.

:harley: :dad:

"Quiet you kids. If I hear one more word, Bart doesn't get to watch cartoons, and Lisa doesn't get to go to college." - Homer

[Mitsuko]

Originally posted by RogueMartian
Aren't ratings going to go down?

They are probably hoping it will boost the ratings, but you don't know if this will be the result. I agree that it is late, and maybe that will mean less ratings.


But now anime doesn't start until midnight. We lost an hour of anime. I don't want to upset any of the comedy AS fans, because I do love futurama and the other shows. But AS still gets its whole comedy block on sundays, I feel sorta short changed on this one.

Yes, I do feel like they have cut the anime a little short. Comedy does get Sundays, while Action gets stuck at the end of the weekday run. I guess we can only hope it will change. I do like comedy too, so I'm not complaining much.

-Mitsuko

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by jdoggg
Action is on for 8 hours a week, Comedy is on for seven. Action has two shows with episodes new to american television, comedy has none. Comedy has one. It's called Futurama. When Futurama boosts CN's ratings, we can expect even more new stuff.

We didn't lose an hour. We lost a good overplayed show and a good underplayed show for 4x the Bebop, 4x the Yu Yu Hakusho, 2x the Inuyasha, and even a new show! I don't see how that's bad in any way at all.

[The Landstander]

as far as the ratings go: asw's biggest concern is (obviously) futurama. at 11, with little competition (local news), it is a very good time slot. home movies has the futurama lead-in, but it is up against letterman/leno (comedy portion). but i think the futurama lead-in should help it out and it should do mildly well.

as for the action shows, things start to get worse. lupin is still up against letterman/leno, the interviews portion (which im guessing gets the better ratings), and i dont think that home movies is the best lead-in for an anime show. that might be bad. inuyasha is up against conan/kilborne, which is a bad thing. i find people who would watch something like adult swim are the same type of people who would watch conan, so that might hurt it. same for yu yu. and finally, bebop has the latest timeslot, where most people have fallen asleep at this point. so that's probably the worst off show. thats what i think, anyway.

[Spastic Minnow]

IMHO I felt ASA Saturday was a bit padded with Toonami level shows (after edits at least)- Tenchi, Outlaw Star, Gundam. So, for me, the hour isn't really missed.

[sl4]

Originally posted by Spastic Minnow
IMHO I felt ASA Saturday was a bit padded with Toonami level shows (after edits at least)- Tenchi, Outlaw Star, Gundam. So, for me, the hour isn't really missed.

Yes, but with so many new shows coming to Adult Swim Action this year, that extra hour would be very useful... Why can't they just have different shows each day of the week? It would make life so much simpler.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by superloud4
Yes, but with so many new shows coming to Adult Swim Action this year, that extra hour would be very useful... Why can't they just have different shows each day of the week? It would make life so much simpler. Because it wouldn't make a lick of difference. It's better to have a consistant timeslot than only one on a certian weekday. This is especially true for the longer series. It's good how it is, rotating shows between days would be a mistake, at least for now. Maybe later they'll do it.

[sl4]

Originally posted by KingKoopa
Because it wouldn't make a lick of difference. It's better to have a consistant timeslot than only one on a certian weekday. This is especially true for the longer series. It's good how it is, rotating shows between days would be a mistake, at least for now. Maybe later they'll do it.

By rotating shows, Cowboy Bebop would be able to stay on the air for as long as CN wants it to without it using up a quarter of ASA.

Inuyasha would be able to rerun when Reign comes on next month, instead of leaving without a trace until another slot is free.

Long series like Inuyasha work best every day, but rotating between different shows that are in reruns for the last two timeslots certainly wouldn't hurt.

[RogueMartian]

I think my third question was misunderstood a bit. Yes we have more hours per week of ASA but we have less shows. That's what I meant by so short.

[Sheamon]

And whats wrong with that? The vast majority of the stuff seen on Adult Swim Action on Saturday night was repeats anyway. Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam 0080 and Tenchi never aired a new episode on ASA. Yu Yu Hakusho aired only 25 or so new episodes, resulting in 20+ weeks of repeats. Pilot Candidate and Gundam 0083 contributed 25 total new episodes too, then were nothing but repeats for the rest of the run. Inu Yasha was the only show that was consistently new through its run. So you go from a half an hour of new stuff a week and 2 and a half hours of repeats to 8 hours a week, much of which will be new with IY, Lupin, Trigun, Reign, etc... showing up. The new schedule may give you less hours per night, but results in a greater total of not only hours of ASA, but new material as well. ASA was 5 shows that was nothing but repeats, 2 new fairly long lengthed shows, and 2 very short new shows in 11 months. With the new schedule we'll pass that 4 show mark in months. Whats wrong with that? I certainly prefer that to the void that ASA Saturdays became after 11:30.

[JDuncan]

Originally posted by KingKoopa
Comedy has one. It's called Futurama.
I said "new to american television". Fox is American, right?