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Calhoun07
09-06-2001, 11:49 AM
After getting innundated with 11,500 signatures as of August 21st from the Home Theater Forum ALONE, you'd think Warner would learn their lesson, wouldn't you? It certainly caught the attention of Ewa Martinoff, vp of family entertainment marketing for WB, who commented on the whole Willy Wonka uproar by saying, "Since this incredible response, we are going to be releasing a widescreen edition [of Willy Wonka] as well. The title has proven that it is more than a family title. We fully intend to be responsible to the consumer."

However, when asked about Cats and Dogs, Martinoff said they are "evaluating the situation."

According to their "research," families perfer pan and scan ratios. I guess their research doesn't include talking to the kids who watch these videos, who say they don't care. Time and time again, I find the parents at the video store I work at complaining about widescreen movies while their kids are standing by saying they don't care or at times actually trying to convince their parents to get the widescreen edition. And their decision to put Willy Wonka out on widescreen DVD is that they now see that it is "more than a family title." That tells me they are still going to neglect titles they view as family titles.

"Joe Six Pack" is a common term used in DVD circles to describe people who prefer pan and scan, mainstream audiences who either don't care or actually complain about the "black bars" on their TV and it seems DVD is starting to cater to the Joe Six Pack crowd, which is a real slap in the face to those of us who embraced DVD early on and supported the format and promoted it and made it what it is today. Without the support of those of us who prefer widescreen, DVD would still be a novelty item sold only here and there and not in such large quantities. I feel like when they stop putting movies out on widescreen format on DVD, they are turning against those of us who helped build DVD up to what it is today.

Vigo Sprax
09-06-2001, 10:31 PM
Its not like we're seeing a ton of movies coming out in pan & scan, so I really don't think this is a big deal. I can understand Willy Wonka being released full frame, since as its already been mentioned, it was filmed in full frame and then matted.

Seeing Cats & Dogs released in pan & scan isn't exactly a big step back for DVD either - its not like we're suddenly going to see classics coming out in it or anything. Personally I can see why it would be more attractive to release children's title pan & scan, mainly because children have smaller TVs and do we really need them sitting any closer to the TV?

Calhoun07
09-06-2001, 10:49 PM
There is a larger demand for movies in pan and scan. And maybe your store stocks ample copies of both formats when movies get released in both formats, but there are some stores who only get in the pan and scan version when there is also a widescreen version is available. Or maybe only a few copies of the widescreen and many, many more pan and scan versions, making the widescreen hard to come by. Silence of the Lambs is a recent example, where people had difficulty in tracking down a widescreen version. This should not be. It's just wrong for movie companies or stores to push one version on its consumers and totally disregard the other audience.

I also have to disagree with your statement about family movies being released in pan and scan. There is no scientific proof that sitting close to a TV causes damage to the eyes, and I also stated in my previous post that many kids today don't think anything of watching a widescreen release. It's their parents who have been complaining because they don't like it.

Vigo Sprax
09-06-2001, 11:19 PM
I was actually kidding about the sitting too close part...

As for SotL, I had no idea it was hard to find the WS release...stores around here had it in stock.

Calhoun07
09-06-2001, 11:37 PM
I didn't really look for the new Silence of the Lambs DVD, but my store got in only pan and scan for rental. The losers. I personally stuck with the Criterion Collection edition.

Clayface
09-07-2001, 06:52 PM
What I don't understand is this: doean't it cost more to convert the film from the original widescreen to pan and scan? I think I remember reading that somewhere alonng the lines - so what's the point in spending the extra money to make it pan and scan?

Calhoun07
09-07-2001, 07:43 PM
Perhaps they view it as an investment in turning a profit with the Joe Six Pack crowd.