New 'Batman Adventures' logo: What do you think?

[Comic Book Boy]

Check dis'
http://wf.toonzone.net/jimharvey/t-BALogoFCB.jpg (http://wf.toonzone.net/jimharvey/BALogoFCB.jpg)
Do you like it? personaly I think it looks kinda baby-ish (is that a word?) What do you all think?

[The Detective]

I think it looks to cartoony and silly. And it doesn't go with the rest of the cover. If the whole cover was done in silly-1960's campy style it would fit in. But it just doesn't go.

[Supremus]

They have taken another step towards ruining everything that was ever cool about Batman :mad:

Not only does Batman's new design make him look like a comedy hood ornament, but that logo is just a joke. There is nothing Batman about it at all.

I wonder if they are going to use these new Batman designs/logos for "Mystery of The BatWoman" as well? I sure hope not.

[The Guard]

That's worse than the old DC ADVENTURES one.

[Jedigreedo]

It's time for Batamaniacs!

[DisneyBoy]

I see it.


I vomit.

[Patrick Bateman]

It looks like some campy cartoon logo. I hate it. It gives the impression that Batman is now going to defeat villains by dropping an anvil on their heads.

[Karkull]

So, is Adam West replacing Kevin Conroy? Cause that's what the logo implies: a step back.

Yucky.

[Salvor]

The logo is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. :yawn:

[Steven C]

Originally posted by Salvor
The logo is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. :yawn:

:(

[James]

I think it's fun, bright and exciting! The fans will love it!

*cautiously looks at the faces turning in his direction throughout the thread and slowly backs out of the door*

[Marika Segal]

originally posted by SJJ

I think it's fun, bright and exciting! The fans will love it!



Well SJJ, We are the Animated Batman Fan's here & wayyy too mush of us here Hate that ultimately crapy logo!!!!!!! Most of us perfer a mush more sutible logo that go's with the series instead of it being way off the series & most of us want that childish lookin logo gotten rid off:mad: :mad:!!! I noticed very few people aprove of that pretty mush unwanted logo & when you said the fan's will love it, so little fan's will aprove but nearly every animated bat fan will hate it & I think it sucks, sucks, sucks, & sucks all the way :mad: !!!!Sorry SJJ, But I'm just pointing out what you said about "the fan's will love it" a HELL of alot of them, nearly everyone won't love that unacceptable logo from what I noticed here and on the voting panle on this fourm.

[The Flash]

Originally posted by Marika Segal
originally posted by SJJ

I think it's fun, bright and exciting! The fans will love it!



Well SJJ, We are the Animated Batman Fan's here & wayyy too mush of us here Hate that ultimately crapy logo!!!!!!! Most of us perfer a mush more sutible logo that go's with the series instead of it being way off the series & most of us want that childish lookin logo gotten rid off:mad: :mad:!!! I noticed very few people aprove of that pretty mush unwanted logo & when you said the fan's will love it, so little fan's will aprove but nearly every animated bat fan will hate it & I think it sucks, sucks, sucks, & sucks all the way :mad: !!!!Sorry SJJ, But I'm just pointing out what you said about "the fan's will love it" a HELL of alot of them, nearly everyone won't love that unacceptable logo from what I noticed here and on the voting panle on this fourm.

Marika, calm down unless you want warned (in a way, you just were). I happened to be talking to SJJ right before he posted that, what he said was very sarcastic. Take a look at his second sentence, it's pretty obvious. There's no reason to lash out at anybody like that.

And for the record... I voted "meh." The new logo is comic like, but way overboard on the cartoon side. Whenever I make logos, I try to add something to it. IE: So it's not just plain text. That's what this one is, and it's probably a big reason why I dislike it. Not only that... but it's way too bright for a modern Batman logo. The logo for the Batman & Robin flick was better then this.

[Marika Segal]

I understand Flash, I know if SJJ liked, Then he liked it & I don't have a problem with him likeing it. I'm just giving my opinuon on this and I was only saying what I noticed here but putting it in more bisist explanation but to me, that logo is a joke to the batman seres I think. Thank you for replying.

[The Detective]

I'm with Flash on this one. No need to get so mad. Now I voted no I don't like it, but still it's nothing to get so mad about.

[Marika Segal]

Sorry Dark Knight I'll try not to make such a pointlous deal out of it. I guess when it comes to these kind of issue's, I just like to have a little fun. But I still think that logo is wrong that's all & and what I said on my second post to this issue, I was just jointing out a fact to SJJ, nothing more but I'll control my temper next time. Thank you.

[The Flash]

Alrighty, I think it's said and done with. If you want to continue, please do so in a PM. Thanks. :)

[finster]

I would not be surprised to find that Bruce Timm had something to do with the new cover dress. I think that it looks great and is very appropriate.
Just when it seemed that the animated Bat franchise was fading away, DC is powerfully re-invigorating it with a book that just may end up being the best on the stands. There seems to have been a great deal of thought given to every aspect of the re-invention, and I'll include in that the cover designs.

Man, we've got a new Batman animated book, with covers by Bruce Timm (I must be dreamin'), art by Ty and Rick, stories by Ty and Dan Slott (who wrote, I think, the best animated Bat-story of the past few years), and people can still find something to be not just negative about, but hoppin' mad! Sheesh!!

[Salvor]

Originally posted by SJJ
I think it's fun, bright and exciting! The fans will love it!

*cautiously looks at the faces turning in his direction throughout the thread and slowly backs out of the door*
hehe :(


Originally posted by finster
people can still find something to be not just negative about, but hoppin' mad! Sheesh!!
Criticizing the logo does not necessarily mean criticizing the comic series. Nothing is flawless, and fans are entitled to their opinions on such flaws.

[jm5150bc]

[i]Man, we've got a new Batman animated book, with covers by Bruce Timm (I must be dreamin'), art by Ty and Rick, stories by Ty and Dan Slott (who wrote, I think, the best animated Bat-story of the past few years), and people can still find something to be not just negative about, but hoppin' mad! Sheesh!! [/B]

That's just what I was thinkin !!! :D

Now I'll admit, I'm not that fond of the logo , either...
I like the eligance of the original "Animated" font...
but I think that the cover by B.T. isn't gonna give anyone a "campy" impression, despite the logo...

[The Electric Knight]

That logo is horrible! If it is anything to judge the tone of the new series by, I think I might start to get worried. If it isn't, then I can live with it, but in terms of getting new readers to the animated comic, and letting it be appreciated properly, not considered as a "kiddie comic", well it's definately the wrong logo to use.

Here's hoping it changes pretty quickly.

[James Harvey]

I'm more in the "meh" category. If this is what we get, then this is what we get. I'll live. Still, I'd rathar see a nice stylized logo - one reminiscent of the original 'Batman Adventures' logo - which was undoubtably the best of any of the logos to grace the series. This one does seem too cartoony and wacky for me, but if we're stuck with this, then I'm fine with it. I'm more concerned with the content then the logo.

[Comic Book Boy]

Originally posted by Jim Harvey
I'm more in the "meh" category. If this is what we get, then this is what we get. I'll live. Still, I'd rathar see a nice stylized logo - one reminiscent of the original 'Batman Adventures' logo - which was undoubtably the best of any of the logos to grace the series. This one does seem too cartoony and wacky for me, but if we're stuck with this, then I'm fine with it. I'm more concerned with the content then the logo.
YES! I voted meh too. And I thought that they will probabily change it anyway. I was just MAD :mad: to see that on Timms' arthttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/batman.gif

[The Flash]

Here's how I would do it. Old school text with a creepy Batman shadow. Frankly, if they do change the logo, anything is going to be an improvement over what they have. The current one would work on an Adam West biography, not a Bruce Timm style comic book...

[Drachentöter]

Yes, that definitely works better than the current logo.

I voted "no." BTAS wasn't a comedy or a light-hearted romp. It was dark and brooding. That logo is just too much of a contrast. Is DC trying to market this comic to kiddies or what?

[Storm]

OMG

It's like a bad mix of a Batman retro flashblack :eek:

[Marika Segal]

originally posted by Flash

Here's how I would do it. Old school text with a creepy Batman shadow. Frankly, if they do change the logo, anything is going to be an improvement over what they have. The current one would work on an Adam West biography, not a Bruce Timm style comic book...

That logo style Flash is so mush better & suitable! I love the Batman shadow on the logo!!!!They should of hired you to do the job! Fabulous job :D !!!!!

[Comic Book Boy]

:D :) WOW! http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/a_smil10.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/a_smil10.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/a_smil10.gif http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/a_smil10.gif

http://forums.toonzone.net/attachment.php?s=&postid=606456
that is even BETTER than the one they are using! You should PM Dan Slott and show him! SERIOUSLY!....W0W!http://www.smilies-world.de/Smilies/Smilies_klein_1/a_smil10.gif

THANX 'The Flash'!

[The Detective]

Originally posted by The Flash
Here's how I would do it. Old school text with a creepy Batman shadow. Frankly, if they do change the logo, anything is going to be an improvement over what they have. The current one would work on an Adam West biography, not a Bruce Timm style comic book...
Woh, That logo is just great. I love that logo. DAN SLOTT! Great logo for Batman title right here! I agree with what you say, that logo is just too campy, bright, and cartoony. It just doesn't fit with the tone of the character, or the rest of the cover.

[Dan Slott]

Hey... Don't drag me into this. Remember, I'm just ONE of the writers... not the editor. :)
All the voting and polling in the world ain't going to change this puppy. Decisions have been made, logos have been drawn. These are done deals. The book is called "Batman Adventures" and it's got that logo.

What do I think of Flash's logo? Looks great. But here's the deal-- an established comic company will never publish or use unsolicited material. Oh-- the headaches it would cause! Legal and whatnot. Personally, I NEVER go into fan fic sites. Heaven forbid I see a story that's close to something I'm currently writing! I NEVER go into a thread about story ideas for the same reason. Within the first year of JL Adv. I pitched stories with both the Marvel Family and the New Gods. Months later, lots of threads like these went up-- and I avoided them like the plague. I'd like to write up these stories some day (if the office'll buy them, of course), and I dread seeing posts of "He stole that from me!" and whatnot.

Unsolicited material, fan fic, and even fan interaction is a catalyst for disaster in the industry. Even when it's asked for! There was a case of a big company doing a "design your own hero or villain" contest-- where the winner's character would appear in an actual comic. The winner of the contest received prizes, signed contracts, and got their character in a comic. That comic later went on to use that character on a fairly regular basis. You'd think that the fan who created him would be happy. He got prizes and got to create a character who was continuing part of a major comic book universe. This character wasn't SUPER popular, he'd probably never even rate an action figure. But, you know what? We'll never know. Because a couple years later, that fan got a lawyer and went after the major comic company. The fan wanted due profits, payoffs, and royalties from all the comics his character appeared in. The letter from his solicitor wrapped up by saying that they hoped the character would continue to have a long and successful run in the comics. A few days later the character was written out of the series at the behest of the "powers that be". You'll never see him again.

Why did I point out this true-life tale of woe? Because no matter how cool a fan's story, costume design, or logo is-- no matter how nice/cool/easy-going that fan is-- there's always going to be ONE BAD APPLE that will ruin it for everyone. And those bad apples have already come and gone. I am SO SORRY! But that's just the way the world is.

It's like Halloween. I'm old enough to remember a time when parents didn't have to check their kids' candy for hidden razor blades and tampered wrappers. Halloween used to be nothing but fun, fun, fun. But all it took was one or two jerks, and suddenly... no more candied apples, popcorn balls, or home made cookies. Doesn't that SUCK?! Well, that's the way the industry is now when it comes to a fan's unsolicited material. No matter HOW GOOD the work is-- it's pretty much a no-go.

Man... I'm such a grouch today. What's up with that?

ttyl
Dan

[The Detective]

I didn't really expect you to try and use Flash's logo in the comic. I was just kidding :D Any way, I know all this legal bullywhoo can be a mees. Man, that jerk who sued for using his character, was a reall jerk. If a created a character that appeared on even a semi-regualar basis, I would be jumping for joy, not phoning lawyers.

[Marika Segal]

I understand Slott. So what you're saying is after what happened to the comic intustry cause of that basterd fan, which I'm ashamed to hear of such a crisis with the intustry, the industry dosen't trust the fan's anymore & I understand you guy's have every right to not trust us fans. But I'm curious, If the comic industry ever had to remodel the logo for laginamate reason's, would they, if possiable, be able to remodel it, instead of a fan doing it :confused: ?

[Dan Slott]

Marika,
That was just ONE case (a fairly recent case). A lot of things LIKE that have happened over the years. As for logos being redesigned? Happens all the time. The Incredible Hulk has had a lot of logos in the past few months alone-- often reinventing itself each issue. Thor had a logo change when the character became the "Lord of Asgard". And Fantastic Four had a logo change when it premiered a new writer/artist team and a big 9 cent relaunch.
There are lots of reasons to change a book's logo. But, as most cases go, these are few and far in between. It's in a book's best interest to KEEP its logo as long as possible-- so fans can easily spot it on the rack. I've read your posts and I know that you don't like the new logo. I hope this doesn't turn you away from the book (especially since the first issue is free-- on Free Comics Day, while supplies last). :)
ttyl
Dan

[The Flash]

Whoa… Poor Dan! I mainly made and posted the logo to show that, and I say this with my tongue in my cheek, a 10 minute job is better then what has been chosen to be used. The official logo, is a good logo, but not good for what they’re trying to sell. It doesn’t match the content that will be inside the book. Unless this is going to be a 1960s style book, in which case I’m seriously missing something. ;) I don’t know who made the logo, I don’t know who gave it the thumbs up and the go ahead, but it's obviously not Dan. Sorry you got dragged into all of this! :) It's too late in the ball game for them to change it to anything, let alone anything I or any other fan does.

[Dan Slott]

I love the new, current, and unchangeable logo.
I love Flash's logo.
I love all of humanity.
I bear no man ill will.
I was never here.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
There's no place like home...
no place like home...
no place like home...

[Marika Segal]

posted originally by Dan Slott

Marika,
That was just ONE case (a fairly recent case). A lot of things LIKE that have happened over the years. As for logos being redesigned? Happens all the time. The Incredible Hulk has had a lot of logos in the past few months alone-- often reinventing itself each issue. Thor had a logo change when the character became the "Lord of Asgard". And Fantastic Four had a logo change when it premiered a new writer/artist team and a big 9 cent relaunch.
There are lots of reasons to change a book's logo. But, as most cases go, these are few and far in between. It's in a book's best interest to KEEP its logo as long as possible-- so fans can easily spot it on the rack. I've read your posts and I know that you don't like the new logo. I hope this doesn't turn you away from the book (especially since the first issue is free-- on Free Comics Day, while supplies last).
ttyl
Dan

That bloody logo won't let me turn away from the new Batman comic series at all, as long as I'm enjoying & loving the artwork and the plots of this new series, I could absloutally care least about the unimportant stuff Dan!! I'm just saying that logo could be more sutible to the point to where I would be fine with it. And what Flash was saying, if you're going to sell a great comic series like that and the logo is not sutible enough, than Flash was saying that the series won't sell & I totally agree with him on that. Thank you for replying, gotta go!!!!!!!

[The Flash]

No, it'll sell. After all, it's Batman! You can't go wrong with that. Ty the Guy is back, and it's called Batman Adventures. I think most people don't care about the logo. We're the hardcores, we're gunna whine about it, but your average Joe isn't going to care as much. It's what's inside the book that ultimatly counts. Once you get people to read it once (Which is easy when you give the first issue away for free), they'll keep coming back. It will sell, the logo just doesn't make much sense when you compare it to the rest of the package.

[Dark_Batman89]

One word for Flash's logo: wow, One word for the actual logo: Blah. No offense to the designer but this logo doesn't suit Batman. I'd rather they use the classic logo, the one they're using in the mainstream Batman logo with "Adventures" under it or the type of logo they used for the "Batman Vengeance" video game. But I hope the logo does not affect the comic. I bet this series will give the aimated Batman a fresh new start! Especially since a reprint of the 1st issue will be in "Free Comic Book Day 2"! :D

[Dan Slott]

Dark_Batman89,
The comic being offered this year on Free Comic Day will NOT be a reprint.
This is the ACTUAL first issue of the new BATMAN ADVENTURES.
Marvel will offer you a reprint of ULITMATE X-MEN #1.
Image will offer you a reprint of an issue of LEAVE IT TO CHANCE from years and years ago.
DC will give you a FIRST printing of BATMAN ADVENTURES #1.
All new.
No reprint.
A full-price newstand edition will be offered at the SAME time.
BUT if you show up at your local comic shop on Free Comic Day-- while supplies last-- you can get a BRAND NEW #1 issue.
Whoa!
Pretty nifty, huh?

ttyl
Dan

[The Detective]

Very nifty. Very Very nifty.

[finster]

This reminds me of Mike Allred's great 'Madman' comic, which had a similarly 'cartoony' logo. It also had a bright color palette, and Toth-Kirby look to the characters, which, of course, made many 'mature' readers dismiss it as a kiddie book. The fact that it featured more deeply drawn and thoughtful characters than just about any book on the stands was lost on readers who feel that 'mature' actually means fetishistic depictions of violence with a nice, titillating dose of nudity.
Someone- Ty, Dan, Rick- said that Batman Adventures will be a world where Barbra Gordon is Batgirl, and Jim Gordon's daughter. That's fine by me. I prefer it to a world where Barbra Gordon has been shot, Jim Gordon's wife has been shot, and finally Jim Gordon was shot.
If the new logo is in some way meant to communicate that, that's fine by me.
The animated Bat-universe has never traded on grim, adolescent power fantasies. In my opinion, it is far more 'mature', meaning adult, than the regular Bat-books have been for a very long time.

[gddiehl]

No sir I most diffently do not like it .I think it stinks.

[James Harvey]

While I'm not all for the logo, this isn't gonna stop me from picking up the book. And if there is anyone thinking of not picking up the book becuase of the logo, then you need to rethink that...seriously. It's a logo...big deal. Alot of books have crummy logos (the new Fantastic Four' logo stinks, IMO) but that doesn't stop me from picking up the book becuase I know there is great artwork and a superb story telling waiting underneath, and Batman Adventures will be no different. Look at the creative team for cryin' out loud! The writing and artwork here is going to be to die for, and something as petty as an iffy logo is not gonna stop me from getting the first issue. And besides - as Dan points out - it's FREE!! How can you beat that?

Simple.

You can't.

[Supremus]

I haven't bought any of the "animated" comics for a few years, and although I don't like the new logo, all the talk about it has made me remember that I used to like the animated Batman comics, so I will definitely give the first issue a try. I'll probably have to pay for it, though. I don't think free comic day stretches all the way to the UK.

Although other comics have bad logos, I think it is less important. While most other logos are just cool fonts, the Batman logo always reflected the style and feel of the comics (or cartoons), so the combination of the new JL Batman design and this silly logo made me a little bit concerned that this could be another step in "dumbing down" Batman for the kids, but I guess we will just have to wait and see what the first few issues are like.

Does anybody know if Timm is going to be the regular cover artist for a while, or is it just a one-off?

[Dan Slott]

The amazing Mr. Timm will be illustrating the first FOUR covers! Huzzah!

[LadyM]

I'm really excited about the actual book, but the official logo . . . um . . . ew.

~LM~

[LadyM]

Originally posted by VortexInfinite
Yes, that definitely works better than the current logo.

I voted "no." BTAS wasn't a comedy or a light-hearted romp. It was dark and brooding. That logo is just too much of a contrast. Is DC trying to market this comic to kiddies or what?

What do you mean? Batman is obviously laughing on the inside on that cover! :p

~LM~

[The Detective]

Beleive me Jim, no logo is going to stop me from picking this book up.

[Marika Segal]

ME ETHIER :mad: !!!!!!!!!

[Pyro]

At first I didn't believe that they were gonna keep that logo, and that it was just for free comic book day, but alas we get stuck with the crappy logo. It goes to show that even if someone who works there sees our comments, it doesn't matter. (though no offense Dan because I'm mostly talking about other things that I have tried to get changed)

Will all the characters have new designs that would fit the JL style?