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The Detective
12-11-2002, 06:10 PM
Really, if it was up to you, would you want both parts to be shown together or to keep using the two-part epidode format? (Note: I know that it will never be made into an hour since theres going to be a single parter. I just wanted to say that before some one hopped on me) :harley: :harley:

Cyber E.
12-11-2002, 06:22 PM
I would have to say no, it is fun always knowing that no matter what the story is ('Cept the Christmas Special) it will have a second part and it makes it even better for the week's wait. I like this format. :D

Drachentöter
12-11-2002, 06:31 PM
:moon2: Err, at times I do, at times I don't.

See, seeing a full hour of Justice League would give me an hour of pure superhero bliss. Also, the story would flow easier, I expect, with about...what? Two minutes added to the show?

But I already get that bliss on Saturday afternoons. And it's better to get twenty six weeks of JL, than thirteen. Plus, all the three-parter movie events would be sent out of whack.

And the bottom line is they've already STARTED doing three parters. Why screw up the format by lengthening the hour? Perhaps in some other series, when the team has a bigger budget and can produce more episodes.

Comic Book Boy
12-11-2002, 06:42 PM
well I heard somewhere :harley: that they are for season 2 but it may only be a rumor....:bcup:

P.S. lovin' these new smilies! :harley:

tphile
12-11-2002, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Really, if it was up to you, would you want both parts to be shown together or to keep using the two-part epidode format? (Note: I know that it will never be made into an hour since theres going to be a single parter. I just wanted to say that before some one hopped on me) :harley: :harley:

I'm fine with a half hour at a time and leave the hour episodes for reruns . once they are shown I'll have them on tape anyway

but I don't see much point for the widescreen version since its not a true widescreen but just cropping the top and bottoms
and would not miss those at all

The Detective
12-11-2002, 07:37 PM
I just realized, I forgot to give my opinion:o I am fine with the two part format. Especially with the one parter and the three parters.

BlackoutCreature
12-11-2002, 08:30 PM
I personally dont like the 2-parter format JL is in now, so i dont see the point in making JL one hour straight. In my opinion the 2-parters have hurt the show more then they've helped. JL's writers have been forced to stretch out shows that shouldnt be a whole hour into a whole hour with pointless battle scenes and forced dialogue. Plus the 2-parter format has made the writers of JL want to make every episode into an "epic" adventure. And while "epic" adventures r really cool, u dont get much characterization out of them. I really think JL should switch to individual half hour episodes for the most part as opposed to the 2-parters doing now.

HelloKittyKat
12-12-2002, 01:16 AM
They should make episodes the length the story requires, and not make them all two-parters or single stories or what-have-you. Not only does it stretch out the story, but sometimes the first and second halves ("In Blackest Night", "Brave and the Bold") seem kinda off to me. And of course, some stories are just too big to relegate to a half-hour.

To me, it seems like in terms of the episode format, the ones they've been able to nail the best have been the 3-parters. Good 2-parters have been "Legends", "A Knight in Shadows", and "Fury". Bad ones have been "In Blackest Night" and "Metamorphosis".

(once again, I meant doing well with the format, that's why I didn't list "War World" :p )

LadyM
12-12-2002, 09:14 AM
A full one hour show (with more episodes) is what I'd like to see.

~LM~

efumf
12-12-2002, 12:45 PM
To the people who prefer the current two-parter format - think about it - whether we get the episodes as half hours, or full hours - we'll still be getting the same amount of Justice League. The only difference is we won't be forced to suffer through cliched cliffhangers at the end of every half hour that you KNOW will be quickly resolved at the start of the next episode (which may not air for weeks!), with no lasting effect on continuity. (Oh no! Wonder Woman's buried under a tall building! What ever will the League do?? Tune in next week to find out!)

I think it's time animated shows adapted to the hour format that so many live-action shows use. And Justice League is the show to set the trend. If Smallville can air as an hour show, then so can JL. And the reruns can always feature as two-parters if need be.

And it's true that one of the upcoming episodes (Paul Dini's one) will be a one part, half hour affair for sure, but why does that mean all the other episodes need to be two-parters too? :confused:

Drachentöter
12-12-2002, 03:02 PM
Oh, come on! Name an episode where the battle was unecessarily drawn out. Even War World's battle lengths were decent. The battles are not a problem in JL. If anything, they were a problem in BTAS and STAS, where there would be some shots, some clobbering, and you're done. When you have seven characters, you want longer scenes. That's just the way it goes.

And my final opinion is NO to hour-longs as that would shorten the amount of episodes in a year that we get.

Simpler Simon
12-12-2002, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by VortexInfinite
Oh, come on! Name an episode where the battle was unecessarily drawn out. Even War World's battle lengths were decent. The battles are not a problem in JL. If anything, they were a problem in BTAS and STAS, where there would be some shots, some clobbering, and you're done. When you have seven characters, you want longer scenes. That's just the way it goes.

A battle is only drawn out when they go from "necessary story development" to just plain fighting for the heck of it.

Paradise Lost pushed it a bit, with the "Superman vs. Wonder Woman" fight in the mall. The fight should've ended a lot quicker after Superman realized he was fighting WW, instead it went on. It also made the Flash/Manhunter segment with the snake a little too short. However, the long Hades fight scenes were appropriately epic and nothing short of astonishing.

I liked the battles in Injustice For All, but I kept thinking in part one that Superman should've been able to take down Humanite A LOT faster.

Secret Origins: Basically a 60-min fight scene with extended dialogue breaks. The action ranged from great to okay, but there was so much of it that it got boring after awhile.

And the biggest offender: The Enemy Below Part One, where they extended the Deadshot sequence so every hero could do something.

And on the subject of hour long episodes: The only benefit I can think of for turing JL into an hour is that they could mix up the story formulas a bit. There doesn't always need to be one big fight scene in every half hour, nor would they have to keep contriving cliffhangers. It could do wonders for the storytelling.

HelloKittyKat
12-12-2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by VortexInfinite
Oh, come on! Name an episode where the battle was unecessarily drawn out.

It's not just battles (which rarely are drawn out), it's the stories in general

tarheelmed02
12-13-2002, 09:54 PM
Yea, I've gotten into the half hour eps every week. It does keep it more interesting to wait til next week.

Although, has anyone noticed that some of the eps from S1 are only like 20-22 minutes even with the commercial breaks. I don't know, it might just be me, but at least make it more closer to a true 30 min. ep. hell, I'll take 25-27 min. long. It's probably all CN's doing anyway...;)

The Detective
12-13-2002, 11:34 PM
Yeah I've noticed how short they are. It's because afterwards CN shows some stupid cartoon cartoon music video. And of course a bunch of commercials.

Drachentöter
12-14-2002, 11:13 AM
Yeah, CN's "Prime Cut" and saturated commercial breaks are the network's worst qualities. They shamelessly promote their (oftentimes inferior) cartoon cartoons and (being part of the biggest corporate congolomorate on the planet) advertise just about every toy in existence. I think JL would benefit from an extra two to five minutes, without having to extend the show into an hour block.

Anarky
12-14-2002, 12:10 PM
most animated programs are 20-22 minutes. JL "seems" shorter because it only has one commercial break. The show ends arounds about 5 minutes before X:30 or X:00.

Look at World's Finest: it's about an hour long (20 minutes per ep). Same as Secret Origins.

It's an entertainment fact: most people have an attention span of around 20 minutes. That's why there are so many half-hour programs. And in movies, it's very fomuladic. About every 20 minutes or so, there's either action or sex (something to bring the viewer back from all the dialogue and plot movement)

as for JL being an hour: no thanks. I enjoy the Sat noon block, but I prefer to break it up. It's like reading a comic, except we only have to wait a week (not a month) for the next installment. Besides, cliffhangers rock!!!

Justice League rocks. There's nothing wrong with the show. Quit hatin. You couldn't do any better. OuT!!!

Anarky
12-14-2002, 12:35 PM
besides, I love the JL-SJ hour block

batman_batman
12-14-2002, 09:41 PM
yes one hour would be better.
the story would flow better and there would be more room for character development.

Jay
12-15-2002, 07:02 AM
naw keep the format, hour shows would be good but keep me in suspense!!

Supremus
12-15-2002, 07:58 AM
Here in the UK we currently get 2 episodes back-to-back in a 1 hour slot every Saturday and Sunday. I much prefer this, as it makes it feel like a bit more of an "event".