BoP and Smallville both set in present day!!!! I was right!!!!!

[Steven C]

My gf taped BoP last night so I decided to watch the show w/ her.
I saw bits and pieces last night, but saw the whole thing today.

When I was watching today I realozed everything I said on here about BoP was right.

When they showed the flashback, it said 8 yrs ago. Then it said "Present day" So all along I WAS RIGHT about Smallville and BoP both being set in the present day. If you do a search on my BoP threads, you'll see people on here was against me from my first "BoP sucks" thread to the contunity thread.

[HelloKittyKat]

Well, it's the present day from their viewpoint :p

[zarius]

Most of the BOP fan-base would descibe your theory as
"STUPID", and it';s little wonder why you're panned, silly. :rolleyes:

[Barb Gordon]

No, I still contest, quite viably, that there is a time difference between Smallville and Birds of Prey. The most obvious fact is that Superman and Batman are around at the same time, therefore it's virtually impossible and down right ludicrous (what a fun word :p ) to think that a show dealing with a time after Batman, and another dealing with a time before Superman, could be in the same timeframe. Then there's the fact that, sure, they say "Present Day"...but just whose present day exactly? It could be 2002 for one and 2040 for another, it's up to the writers. Why do you think they never have dates anywhere? It's so it can be any general time frame and nothing specific.

~Barb

[Jedigreedo]

Birds of Prey could easily be present day, afterall we went through BTAS in the 90's. ;)

[Chris Sanders MSX]

It's presant day to "them". Like Barb said, Supes and Bat became heros around the same time, and Smallville is already based in (let's just say) 2002 which means it's in that universe the time before there was a Superman. BoP can't be in that same time because of the fact that Batman's been around for years(more than 10 friggin years!) in that show.

[Steven C]

Most of the BOP fan-base would descibe your theory as
"STUPID", and it's little wonder why you're panned, silly.

Well if my theory is stupid then why doesnt anyone disprove me?
Show me evidence that BoP takes place in the future. Is there anything "futuristic" about New Gotham (besides the Barb looking through Dinah's glasses thing, and even thats been acomplished w/ today's technology)???? No there isnt, there is nothing "futuristic" about BoP

We are far more technically advanced now than where we were 20 yrs ago. If BoP is 20-40 yrs in the future, why is everything about it so "late 90s - early 00's"?????

No, I still contest, quite viably, that there is a time difference between Smallville and Birds of Prey. The most obvious fact is that Superman and Batman are around at the same time, therefore it's virtually impossible and down right ludicrous (what a fun word ) to think that a show dealing with a time after Batman, and another dealing with a time before Superman, could be in the same timeframe. Then there's the fact that, sure, they say "Present Day"...but just whose present day exactly? It could be 2002 for one and 2040 for another, it's up to the writers. Why do you think they never have dates anywhere? It's so it can be any general time frame and nothing specific.

~Barb

Who ever said that in this contunity that Batman and Superman are around the same age and who ever said that they will ever meet???

This is the same contunity where Smallville is the "X-Files capitol of the world", where Lex and Clark are friends, where we actually see Lex's father, and in the BoP pilot they refer to Smallville (meteor rocks giving people strange powers) and the this is where the public doesnt know about Batman. None of this was ever in the comic books.

You're right thats its up to the writers, and they have in fact completely changed Batman's life and are making up the teenage yrs of Clark. Its quite obvious they dont follow the comics.

And dont bother mentioning" well young Bruce is supposted to be on Smallville" cause it most likely wont happen.

It's presant day to "them". Like Barb said, Supes and Bat became heros around the same time, and Smallville is already based in (let's just say) 2002 which means it's in that universe the time before there was a Superman. BoP can't be in that same time because of the fact that Batman's been around for years(more than 10 friggin years!) in that show.

Again please show me proof that Batman and Superman will meet!!!! Just cause the comics have them know each other doesnt mean that they will in this contuity. My statement above proves that.

If the general public doesnt know about Batman in BoP, does that mean the general public doesnt know about Superman too????? BoP NEVER referenced Superman by name!!!! If the super heros and "meta people/culture" are unknown to the public, then how does Superman know about Batman and vice versa????

This is more proof that BoP and Smallville are in the same time frame.

[Barb Gordon]

Hmmm, well in all actuality then, using what you just said, we can't seem to find anything to disprove your theory, but you have nothing solid enough to disprove us either. What a standstill. Everyone's free to think or assume what they wish, most just seem to take the series as being in different time frames.

[zarius]

AND what if the producers of Smallville are finally able to bring a young Bruce Wayne into the series?

Like I said: STUPID. :rolleyes:

[Steven C]

Hmmm, well in all actuality then, using what you just said, we can't seem to find anything to disprove your theory, but you have nothing solid enough to disprove us either. What a standstill. Everyone's free to think or assume what they wish, most just seem to take the series as being in different time frames.

Yes everyone has their own opinion. This is mine. I still can't see how this is the future. It doesnt even look like the future.
The reason you guys think this is the future is because you think Superman and Batman will meet and theyre around the same age.............according to the comics.

Its quite obvious that the writers dont follow the comics.

Theres my proof.

AND what if the producers of Smallville are finally able to bring a young Bruce Wayne into the series?

Like I said: STUPID.

The reason they wont bring young Bruce in is cause of the same reason Smallville never mentioned Gotham City. Copyright laws...........2 different entities within AOL/Time Warner own the rights to Superman and Batman. The writers said it themselves that they had to get the "legal red tape" out of the way to use the name "Bruce Wayne"

And if Bruce shows up on Smallville, BoP would have been long gone anyways = MOOT POINT!!!

[Chris Sanders MSX]

Again please show me proof that Batman and Superman will meet!!!! Just cause the comics have them know each other doesnt mean that they will in this contuity. My statement above proves that.

I don't think they'll meet. I just think they are the same or are around the same age. And your theory makes Batman way older than Superman. If anything superman would be older. And about them not following the comics, they follow them just loosely. Your theory is way too loose for my tastes.

I mean that's a pretty big error to make and they had to know it'd come up with the whole WB show crossover thing that always happens. I don't think their's a set time frame for the shows, and Smallville mosty takes place in the rual areas. They don't show enough of metropolis to know the technology used or in what state they are in. Where as BoP is the opposite.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

Originally posted by zarius
AND what if the producers of Smallville are finally able to bring a young Bruce Wayne into the series?

Like I said: STUPID. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying stupid But i know the writers would want to leave the option open and your theory closes that.

[Terminatah]

Steven C:

In an early episode (I think the pilot), Huntress made a reference to Superman, meaning he and Batman existed at roughly the same time. That definitively concludes that "Birds of Prey" takes place long after "Smallville." Also, that present day subtitle was likely relative to the time period of "Birds of Prey" (in order to differentiate from the 8 years ago). Anything else (40 years from now) would've been confusing.

-Terminatah

[LadyM]

We're talking comic book timeframe here. Just because BoP and Smallville have both have present-day houses, cars, etc. doesn't mean that they happen at the same time.

Example: The current Flash took the mantle of his predecessor in 1985, when he was 20. He had his 21st birthday in . . . *thinks* . . . about 1987 (I think, could be wrong). Currently, in 2002, he's . . . how old? Thirty-seven? Nope. He's in his in his early to mid 20s.

So despite the fact that his books contain pop-culture references from the mid-80s to the present, he's retconned so that he became the Flash five years ago or less.

James Bond does something similar, actually.

So, yes, Birds of Prey can take place in 2002 and be set nine years after Smallville, which takes place in 2002.

Don't think about it too hard. Just accept it.

Or if you MUST have an explanation, blame it on hypertime.

One of the comic book companies--maybe it's Marvel, I'm not sure--has a policy saying that their comics have a 20 year history--meaning that ALL their comics fit within the 20 year time frame, even if the actual comics were published long before that. My roommate pointed out that one fun result of this is that you can read about how certain superheroes helped the Americans beat the Russians into space . . . in the 80s.

BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!

~LM~

[Glenn Leider]

Originally posted by Steven C
Show me evidence that BoP takes place in the future. Is there anything "futuristic" about New Gotham (besides the Barb looking through Dinah's glasses thing, and even thats been acomplished w/ today's technology)???? No there isnt, there is nothing "futuristic" about BoP.The only other "evidence" I can provide would be the meta people/culture and Helena/Huntress (who's one of them). She's likely about 20 so would have been born to Batman and Catwoman in the early '80's if BoP were set in 2002. IMHO Helena was *actually* born 9 months after the events of the movie "Batman Returns" (1992), acquires meta-powers as a teenager, and is being taught by Barbara/Oracle to use them more effectively at the time BoP is set - perhaps c. 2013.

[Steven C]

I don't think they'll meet. I just think they are the same or are around the same age. And your theory makes Batman way older than Superman. If anything superman would be older. And about them not following the comics, they follow them just loosely. Your theory is way too loose for my tastes.

I mean that's a pretty big error to make and they had to know it'd come up with the whole WB show crossover thing that always happens. I don't think their's a set time frame for the shows, and Smallville mosty takes place in the rual areas. They don't show enough of metropolis to know the technology used or in what state they are in. Where as BoP is the opposite.


Why should Superman be older? Because the comics make him seem older??????????? Its quite obvious the writers "loosely" follow the comics. Yep, A (New) Gotham that doesnt know about Batman and Joker. A Batman that abandon his daughter (and dont say he didnt know about Huntress, cause Catwoman was carrying for 9 months and Batman had too have seen Catwoman and Huntress while she was growing up), a Batman that flees w/ his tail between his legs cause Joker made him go crazy or whatever happened to him, a whole Metahuman sub-culture, etc. I think thats "loosely" stretching the comic book a lil bit. Dont u think???????????????

So you can accept those, but you can't accept my theory that Smallville and BoP takes place at the present day? I think you're being biased.

Smallville takes place at present day (2002). They even said in the pilot episode of Smallville that the meteor shower happened in 1999. In BoP they show NO, and I repeat NO "futuristic" technology. If I'm missing some technology, please point it out.

Originally posted by zarius
AND what if the producers of Smallville are finally able to bring a young Bruce Wayne into the series?

Like I said: STUPID.




I'm not saying stupid But i know the writers would want to leave the option open and your theory closes that.

Read my earlier reply to this:

The reason they wont bring young Bruce in is cause of the same reason Smallville never mentioned Gotham City. Copyright laws...........2 different entities within AOL/Time Warner own the rights to Superman and Batman. The writers said it themselves that they had to get the "legal red tape" out of the way to use the name "Bruce Wayne"

And if Bruce shows up on Smallville, BoP would have been long gone anyways = MOOT POINT!!!


Steven C:

In an early episode (I think the pilot), Huntress made a reference to Superman, meaning he and Batman existed at roughly the same time. That definitively concludes that "Birds of Prey" takes place long after "Smallville." Also, that present day subtitle was likely relative to the time period of "Birds of Prey" (in order to differentiate from the 8 years ago). Anything else (40 years from now) would've been confusing.

-Terminatah



The only ref made to Superman in the pilot was "meteor rocks". Huntess was giving excuses to Dinah about people getting powers. She said it jokingly.

Why would it be too confusing for???? They could have said a yr in the first episode. They could have done a number of things to tell you what time frame it is in.


James Bond does something similar, actually.

So, yes, Birds of Prey can take place in 2002 and be set nine years after Smallville, which takes place in 2002.

Don't think about it too hard. Just accept it.

Or if you MUST have an explanation, blame it on hypertime.


James Bond is totally different. Bond is ageless (hence, no one ever mentioned a yr in any Bond film). I understand "comic book timeframes" this doesn't apply here.

For the "different 2002" thing to work, that means that they are not on the same contunity. They are because everyone on this forum said they are, but in a different time period. I agree w/ that except for the same time period part. And because Huntress mentioned "meteor rocks".
I haven't heard or read of Kryptonite being referred to meteor rocks anywhere else besides Smallville. Anyone one want to correct me on that???

Hypertime.....hahahaha Nice one!!

The only other "evidence" I can provide would be the meta people/culture and Helena/Huntress (who's one of them). She's likely about 20 so would have been born to Batman and Catwoman in the early '80's if BoP were set in 2002. IMHO Helena was *actually* born 9 months after the events of the movie "Batman Returns" (1992), acquires meta-powers as a teenager, and is being taught by Barbara/Oracle to use them more effectively at the time BoP is set - perhaps c. 2013.

In BoP, Catwoman WAS a Metahuman. Thats why Huntress is half Metahuman. Maybe Catwoman became Metahuman after she got her "9 lives" in Batman Returns. If I remember correctly, the public knew of Batman, they even had a batsignal, Commish Gordon talked to Batman, etc. Sorry man, your *Batman Returns to BoP* evidence doesnt work at all.

Also in the Batman movies I dont remember there ever dates mentioned. In that case according to "comic book time", Batman Returns could be set anytime, so 1992 doesnt apply.

I dont mean to be against anyone, I think this is a pretty fun/intresting conversation and this has made me put to use some of my "useless info/knowledge" I aquired over the yrs.

Keep em' coming!!!

[Chris Sanders MSX]

Why should Superman be older? Because the comics make him seem older??????????? Its quite obvious the writers "loosely" follow the comics. Yep, A (New) Gotham that doesnt know about Batman and Joker. A Batman that abandon his daughter (and dont say he didnt know about Huntress, cause Catwoman was carrying for 9 months and Batman had too have seen Catwoman and Huntress while she was growing up), a Batman that flees w/ his tail between his legs cause Joker made him go crazy or whatever happened to him, a whole Metahuman sub-culture, etc. I think thats "loosely" stretching the comic book a lil bit. Dont u think???????????????

Superman came out before Batman so that's why I'm saying that if anything he'd be older. No it's not stretching the comic book that far at all, I was talking about The Birds of Prey Comic Book . But if you want to talk about the regular Bat Books we can do that too... There's a little storyline called Bruce Wayne Fugative, and before that one where Batman locked himself in a cave (I haven't read the book in a while, someone from the comics forum would know specifics) and as for the meta-humans, it's just further proof that this isn't presant day. They could of gotten that from Batman Beyond(set in the future) or anything. But all of this is still followed in the birds of Prey book that was released before the show...and is really what the show is loosely based on.

It's easy to say Batman couldn't have known about Huntress. Selena Kyle could easily just tell Batman that she was impregnated by someone else, she obviously didn't want Bruce to know it was his kid so odds are that's what she did. So yeah, he may have seen them both but he had no way of knowing that the kid was his.

If you need an answer you could say the TV BoP could be set in a different universe. :D

[Steven C]

Superman came out before Batman so that's why I'm saying that if anything he'd be older. No it's not stretching the comic book that far at all, I was talking about The Birds of Prey Comic Book . But if you want to talk about the regular Bat Books we can do that too... There's a little storyline called Bruce Wayne Fugative, and before that one where Batman locked himself in a cave (I haven't read the book in a while, someone from the comics forum would know specifics) and as for the meta-humans, it's just further proof that this isn't presant day. They could of gotten that from Batman Beyond(set in the future) or anything. But all of this is still followed in the birds of Prey book that was released before the show...and is really what the show is loosely based on.



So since Superman came out before Batman, that automatically makes him older????????????? hahahahaha
So if what you're saying is true: someone who was born w/ super powers is older than someone that aquired super powers/became a super hero???????? hahahaha

I havent read a BoP comic and I dont care to and I will repeat: "that its quite obvious that the writers of BoP and Smallville dont follow the comic book, but the shows are BASED on the characters in the comic book. ie: The Bourne Identity movie follows this (movie isnt anything like any of the Bourne Identity books).

And even though I havent read a BoP comic, I know the TV show is NOTHING like the comic. So youre whole comic book reasoning is FLAWED.


It's easy to say Batman couldn't have known about Huntress. Selena Kyle could easily just tell Batman that she was impregnated by someone else, she obviously didn't want Bruce to know it was his kid so odds are that's what she did. So yeah, he may have seen them both but he had no way of knowing that the kid was his.

Yes!!!!! Nice answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But since Batman did *you know* w/ Catwoman, wouldnt he be at least a lil curious??? Didnt they mention in BoP that Catwoman is the true love of Batman? If she said she got pregnant by someone else, I would hope Batman would:

-Call Catwoman and lying b!t@h for cheating on him. Because if the "love of my life" cheated on me, I'd be highly upset.

-Put those detective skills to use and make sure that Catwoman isnt carry his child.

On the flip side, you can give many reasons that Batman didnt know about Helena, I mean Catwoman did die when she was 10-11 right??? So thats 11-12 yrs that Batman didnt see Catwoman or Helena???

Here are some reasons that I think Batman couldnt have known or cared for his DAUGHTER!

-Once Batman finally got Catwoman in bed, he moved on to the next woman. Never looked back.

-Hes one of those punk fathers that dont care about anyone except himself.

-Maybe Bruce wanted a boy instead of a girl, so he just bailed in Catwoman and Helena.

-He got amnesia???

-He is secretly married to someone else and Helena is his love child, meaning is doesnt want anything to do w/ her.

There are a bunch of reasons. Most of them are pretty dumb and uncharacteristic of Batman though.


If you need an answer you could say the TV BoP could be set in a different universe. :D


Nice one, I like that and the hypertime reason.
Then that would contradict a lot of peoples belief that BoP are on the same contunity as Smallville.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

-Call Catwoman and lying b!t@h for cheating on him. Because if the "love of my life" cheated on me, I'd be highly upset.

They were never an official couple so technically it's not cheating and Batman in all of his incarnations(except the Adma West Version) would never fly off like that. He'd do more of a I'm hurt so i'll just be colder than usual type thing.

-Put those detective skills to use and make sure that Catwoman isnt carry his child.

He most liekly wouldn't have obsessed over it and would have just taken her word for it. I mean Batman has a hard time letting people into his life(except those he can relate to) so i'm guessing once he let her in, her word became her bond.


Here are some reasons that I think Batman couldnt have known or cared for his DAUGHTER!

-Once Batman finally got Catwoman in bed, he moved on to the next woman. Never looked back.

Maybe.... Bruce was known as a playboy. But then again Catwoman would have been his closest thing to a relationship while the others were just momentary play things.


-Hes one of those punk fathers that dont care about anyone except himself.

He took in more children than he had that weren't even his. Given his track record I doubt that he'd abbandon his own child.


-Maybe Bruce wanted a boy instead of a girl, so he just bailed in Catwoman and Helena.

Ha. That's just stupid. But it's funny. :D I'm skipping the amnesia one.

-He is secretly married to someone else and Helena is his love child, meaning is doesnt want anything to do w/ her.

Not bad, but Bruce never gets married. It's kind of his destiny to be alone and bitter thanks to his obsession with avenging his parents deaths and righting wrongs. Their's been foreshadowing in about every Bat book of this happening.

There are a bunch of reasons. Most of them are pretty dumb and uncharacteristic of Batman though.

Yeah, but at least you tried. :p Post # 2600 !!!

[Steven C]

They were never an official couple so technically it's not cheating and Batman in all of his incarnations(except the Adma West Version) would never fly off like that. He'd do more of a I'm hurt so i'll just be colder than usual type thing.

C'mon, official couple????? WTF?? Doesnt fly man.

Yeah, but at least you tried. Post # 2600 !!! :p

Maybe Bruce is secretly gay ??? I mean he does take in lil orphan boys. hahahahahaha.

So why doesnt anyone else post? What happened to the people in the beginning of this thead. Its probably because they can't think of anything else to say because they know that Im gonna provide a rebut that makes sense.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

C'mon, official couple????? WTF?? Doesnt fly man.

Yes. Official Couple. You can't cheat on someone that your not dating. And I'm sure(if this was the case) Batman knew the conditions of it. Batman and Catwoman had been flirting around for years but nothing serious every really came of it(I'm aware that some may think sleeping with her is serious but without a real relationship or emotional attatchment it's nothing), so maybe Batman would think she got tired of playing games and got someone new, who impregnated her. When the baby was his all along. Now you can't tell me this doesn't fly.


So why doesnt anyone else post? What happened to the people in the beginning of this thead. Its probably because they can't think of anything else to say because they know that Im gonna provide a rebut that makes sense.

Yes. That's exactly it... Looks down...

"Maybe Bruce is secretly gay ??? I mean he does take in lil orphan boys. hahahahahaha." :p

[Brainatra]

>>-He is secretly married to someone else and Helena is his love child, meaning is doesnt want anything to do w/ her.
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Not bad, but Bruce never gets married. It's kind of his destiny to be alone and bitter thanks to his obsession with avenging his parents deaths and righting wrongs. Their's been foreshadowing in about every Bat book of this happening.
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Well, in pre-Crisis continuity, the Earth-2/Golden Age Batman married a reformed Catwoman, and had Helena...though admittedly, after Catwoman got killed after being forced out of retirement by crooks, he, um, went into the "brooding/self-pity" bit (before getting killed himself eventually, which all paved the way for Helena to become the Huntress)... but it is the only example of an in-comic Bat-marriage I can think of. Worthless trivia: Earth-2's Clark Kent and Lois Lane were on-hand at the wedding...

>>>C'mon, official couple????? WTF?? Doesnt fly man.


Maybe Bruce is secretly gay ??? I mean he does take in lil orphan boys. hahahahahaha.
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Yes, that's it, since all gay guys are attracted to prepubescent kids... (Rolls his eyes)

>>So why doesnt anyone else post? What happened to the people in the beginning of this thead. Its probably because they can't think of anything else to say because they know that Im gonna provide a rebut that makes sense.<<

Well, between everything having already been said and some of the, ahem, "clever" humor above, one reason I didn't say anything until now... though I agree with the sentiment that "Smallville" takes place in the present, and "BoP" takes place in the future, and likely not in the same universe.

Recall hearing abou a "Today" show interview w/Katie Couric and one of the Smallville staff where she notes that Lex's car looked "too new" for teenage Clark's time...presumably assuming that the show took place in the past (if he's Superman in the present)... of course, if it were set in Clark's teen years (per the comics at this point, apparently the 80's), doubt the WB honchos would go for seeing Clark playing Bruce Springsteen albums each week while watching "The Cosby Show" on the tube and going to see "The Goonies" at the movies, barring some sort of retro-"That 70s Show" appeal :-)

-B.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

Well, in pre-Crisis continuity, the Earth-2/Golden Age Batman married a reformed Catwoman, and had Helena...though admittedly, after Catwoman got killed after being forced out of retirement by crooks, he, um, went into the "brooding/self-pity" bit (before getting killed himself eventually, which all paved the way for Helena to become the Huntress)... but it is the only example of an in-comic Bat-marriage I can think of. Worthless trivia: Earth-2's Clark Kent and Lois Lane were on-hand at the wedding...

But I didn't that Batman,Catwoman and Helena die ? I know what you were saying but I just wana be sure.

[Brainatra]

Originally posted by Chris Sanders MSX
But I didn't that Batman,Catwoman and Helena die ? I know what you were saying but I just wana be sure.

Bruce and Selina were married in 1955, and had Helena a few years later (Earth-2 heroes aged in real time, vs. the perpetually-young Earth-1 heroes). By the time Helena grew up (in the 70's/then-present), Selina was goaded back into service as Catwoman by some crooks who were blackmailing her for something-or-other; Bruce (as Batman) swings into action to investigate this, only to find that Selina was killed in action; out of grief/feeling all those vaguely connected with his Batman persona brought nothing but misery/general angst (IIRC?), he puts his Bat-career behind him permanently and focuses more on his work (as the commissioner of the Gotham City P.D.)...the incident however, makes Helena assume the ID of the Huntress out of vengeance for her mother's death. A very short time later, IIRC, Bruce is forced back into action to take on some crook or other (not sure if it's related to the Catwoman incident), and is killed in action. Dr. Fate fixes it so that the world thinks Bruce Wayne also died (of an unrelated incident) the same day, and Helena vows to fight the good fight as the Huntress for vengeance of both her parents' deaths, which (via various JSA stories/backups in Wonder Woman's comic/etc.) she does...at least until she got offed/retconned out of existence in "Crisis" (a building collapses on her during Crisis, and after the whole thing is over [including her funeral], the newly-formed post-Crisis world forgets she ever existed, natch).

-B.

[Steven C]

All you guys based what you know on the comics. BoP and Smallville are BASED on comic book characters, not the comics.

[Joker85]

How do we know that BOP and Smallville take place in the same universe? Just cause they havea the same producers and are about comic book heros? I mean, the same guys produce "What I Like About You" Does that mean Amanda Bynes will show up and be the 4th Bird of Prey, or Clarks new Girlfriend. NO. They are 2 seperate shows that don't have to necessarily be in the same timeline, or universe or continuity or whatever you want to call it.

[Steven C]

How do we know that BOP and Smallville take place in the same universe? Just cause they havea the same producers and are about comic book heros? I mean, the same guys produce "What I Like About You" Does that mean Amanda Bynes will show up and be the 4th Bird of Prey, or Clarks new Girlfriend. NO. They are 2 seperate shows that don't have to necessarily be in the same timeline, or universe or continuity or whatever you want to call it.

I think they are in the same universe because when Helena was explaining to Dinah in the pilot episode, Helena said "meteor rocks" were a cause of giving people powers.

Kryptonite was never called "meteor rocks" ANYWHERE ELSE besides Smallville.

Someone else already asked this and Im giving you the same answer I gave before. Please read the whole thread.

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by Steven C
I think they are in the same universe because when Helena was explaining to Dinah in the pilot episode, Helena said "meteor rocks" were a cause of giving people powers.

Kryptonite was never called "meteor rocks" ANYWHERE ELSE besides Smallville.

Someone else already asked this and Im giving you the same answer I gave before. Please read the whole thread.
Well, it might just be an arbitrary reference thrown in to make the fans go "Ooh! Ooh! I know where that's from!", just like any other reference they might make. In the movie, Spider-man, Peter Parker quips "Who do I look like, The Thing?!" at one point (Something like that), but I'm pretty sure the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man didn't exist in the same universe in the movie.

Not saying that I think that's right, but it should be considered.

[Joker85]

Originally posted by Steven C
I think they are in the same universe because when Helena was explaining to Dinah in the pilot episode, Helena said "meteor rocks" were a cause of giving people powers.

Kryptonite was never called "meteor rocks" ANYWHERE ELSE besides Smallville.

Someone else already asked this and Im giving you the same answer I gave before. Please read the whole thread.
Helena also asked Oracle if her "spidey sense was tingling". Does this mean that Spiderman and BOP/Smallville are in the same universe? That line was thrown in there for the fans, that doesn't mean that they are in the same universe.

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by Joker85
Helena also asked Oracle if her "spidey sense was tingling". Does this mean that Spiderman and BOP/Smallville are in the same universe? That line was thrown in there for the fans, that doesn't mean that they are in the same universe.

Another point to consider...

Assuming that they ARE in the same continuity, and they were both set in the present.... how would Helena know about kryptonite? As far as I know, if the FOTWs are ever in the Smallville paper, they're presented as random coincidences, and not at all tied in to "magical meteor rocks". Maybe I missed a few episodes, but I don't think the townspeople know about what the kryptonite can do, let alone people out of state. Even Oracle, the computer whiz, wouldn't be able to know if she lacked the information.