Lupin the Third.... [Archive]

Chris Wood

11-26-2002, 12:36 PM

The only problem is I find it very hard to believe that any dub could do Lupin justice. The original Japanese voice acting is just so good and distinctive. I don't think I could take Lupin with a different voice.
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Masamune2052

11-26-2002, 12:38 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, THERE IS A GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trigger

11-26-2002, 01:35 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is great!
Get over here "Lupin the Third".

Killtacular

11-26-2002, 01:38 PM

Gah. Please change your user title, Trigger.

Jude Santos

11-26-2002, 01:40 PM

i knew Lupin III will be on AS. my friend asked a pioneer rep at one of the cons and he said "we're aiming for an Adult Swim kind of block", that pretty much gave it away since i dont know any other channels that has a block like Adult Swim

lupin the 3rd

11-26-2002, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Moof
Wow cool, Lets see how long it takes "Lupin the Third" to notice this :D
Ya..and my happy dance!! :D

lupin the 3rd

11-26-2002, 02:28 PM

when dose it start

Matt Hazuda

11-26-2002, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by lupin the 3rd
when dose it start From the first post in this thread
Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
Premiering Jan. 13th at midnight on Adult Swim! ::conks lupin with the "Mallet of reading the entire thread"::

Beat

11-26-2002, 02:56 PM

YAHOO!!!

JDuncan

11-26-2002, 02:56 PM

That's the show that was in the game "Cliff Hanger", right?

Space Cadet

11-26-2002, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
Premiering Jan. 13th at midnight on Adult Swim!

I was wondering where you got the info from. I'm not doubting you or anything, but where did you get it?

Space Cadet

11-26-2002, 03:10 PM

I'm guessing that since it's a Pioneer show that WS will be editing it?

Beat

11-26-2002, 03:11 PM

I thought it was FUNi's.

Evil Dr. Reef

11-26-2002, 03:11 PM

I was wondering where you got the info from. I'm not doubting you or anything, but where did you get it?
He's a mod. They know everything, man. :D

Space Cadet

11-26-2002, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by Beatdigga
I thought it was FUNi's.

FUNi only has rights to the T.V. specials. Pioneer has the T.V. series rights. I'm expecting a good dub from Animaze.

Artemis

11-26-2002, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Beatdigga
YAHOO!!!

I'll second that. ;)

Beat

11-26-2002, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
FUNi only has rights to the T.V. specials. Pioneer has the T.V. series rights. I'm expecting a good dub from Animaze.

The good news is those are both companies the CN is in good graces with.

KingKoopa

11-26-2002, 03:21 PM

Since Adult Swim is 3 hours long, does this mean there will be action programming running for 2 hours, 12-2?

Andrew

11-26-2002, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by KingKoopa
Since Adult Swim is 3 hours long, does this mean there will be action programming running for 2 hours, 12-2?

Yes.

[EDIT: Crap, why can't I link to another thread on ToonZone? Anyways, KingKoopa, check the sticky thread labeled "Adult Swim Weeknights SCHEDULE".]

MrBananagrabber

11-26-2002, 03:26 PM

^_^ This is awesome news. Lupin is a great series, I hope it stays on for a long time. The only dub of Lupin I've seen was Castle of Cagliostro a few years back. Does anyone know if the Funimation dub also added in cursing like Manga did? I really hate how Manga does that...

KingKoopa

11-26-2002, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
Yes.

[EDIT: Crap, why can't I link to another thread on ToonZone? Anyways, KingKoopa, check the sticky thread labeled "Adult Swim Weeknights SCHEDULE".] Yeah, I saw that as soon as I clicked out of this thread. Really good schedule. Couldn't have asked for more.

lupin the 3rd

11-26-2002, 03:38 PM

Yep life is good.

Beat

11-26-2002, 03:43 PM

Now let's all relax, untill someone brings up Rejected.

Zero Angel

11-26-2002, 03:46 PM

Dubbed Lupin? all right now...im not one to say that i prefer the sub all the time to the dub but the voice for Lupin, Jigin, and Fujiko are just to distinctive for me to try and get into anything else. i am however, interested in seeing the job that Pioneer does for it.

KingKoopa

11-26-2002, 03:53 PM

I wonder if Yusuke says "Sweet Jesus". It'd definately be in-character.

CANCEL YYH NOW!!

Beat

11-26-2002, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by KingKoopa
CANCEL YYH NOW!!

May I ask WHY?!

KingKoopa

11-26-2002, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Beatdigga
May I ask WHY?! I'm kidding around. I personally thought it was rather obvious. Whatever.

Mackenzie Rainelle

11-26-2002, 04:08 PM

Lupin's coming? Yeah, buddy! :D I can't wait!

Galaxia

11-26-2002, 04:13 PM

Cool! :D

Beat

11-26-2002, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by KingKoopa
I'm kidding around. I personally thought it was rather obvious. Whatever.

You need those smilies. :D :cool: ;) :p

Spike Mcdougal

11-26-2002, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Artemis
I'll second that. ;)

And i'll third it.

I'm expecting a good dub from Animaze.

Of course it will be good look at Castle of Cagliostro

Chris Wood

11-26-2002, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Zero Angel
Dubbed Lupin? all right now...im not one to say that i prefer the sub all the time to the dub but the voice for Lupin, Jigin, and Fujiko are just to distinctive for me to try and get into anything else. i am however, interested in seeing the job that Pioneer does for it.

Yeah, I don't see how it could be dubbed well. That voice IS Lupin.

Karl Olson

11-26-2002, 04:30 PM

This is great news, though Lupin fills the last of the three action slots in the upcoming ASweekdays lineup (other two being Bebop and Inu-Yasha), if they aren't rotating different shows on different nights in that lineup. Looks like Yu Yu may really be off the network. :(

<edit: nevermind, I just saw the new as weeknight schedule>

Weatherman

11-26-2002, 04:38 PM

Rupan Sansei on Adult Swim? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D *throws hands up* The greatest theif of all time, comign soon to a t.v. near you! Just make sure it's bolted down tight. ;)

Note: and we thought people reacted badly to the MSG animation. Lupin had an even lower framerate. Well, here's hoping. :)

EscaflownePilot

11-26-2002, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by jdoggg
That's the show that was in the game "Cliff Hanger", right?

Yup.

Andrew

11-26-2002, 05:04 PM

You know, I bet Funimation is really happy about this, since it means that all their numerous Lupin specials and movies are now guaranteed to air on the network eventually.

Of course, it could actually be the reason WHY we haven't heard anything about their Lupin stuff airing...they knew about the Pioneer deal and were waiting until the TV series starts up to put their stuff on.

Fata Morgana

11-26-2002, 05:54 PM

Woo woo! In honor of the occasion, I point everyone towards the following picture: http://www.sandyplanet.com/bebopsansei.jpg

Wheeeeeeeee!

Fata Morgana

zimbach

11-26-2002, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Fata Morgana
Woo woo! In honor of the occasion, I point everyone towards the following picture: http://www.sandyplanet.com/bebopsansei.jpg

Wheeeeeeeee!

Fata Morgana As soon as this show goes on the air, what do you think the chances are that well be flooded with newbie otaku complaining about "this cheap Cowboy Bebop ripoff", as those without a sense of history are likely to call it?

nothing

11-26-2002, 07:06 PM

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43385&highlight=thief

there's a lot in store for adult swim that hasn't been touched on yet. sadly, i cannot comment on what's happening, but suffice it to say - you ain't seen nothing yet ;)

Proteus3

11-26-2002, 07:09 PM

Even though the series is old and has dated animation, I hope people look past that to see how great the show is. I've seen a couple of episodes of Lupin and it is quite good. Castle of Cagliostro is one of my favorite anime movies. Some of the TV specials are also good. If the series is successful, then maybe Pioneer will buy the rights to the first TV series. They only have the rights to the second TV series.

Zero Angel

11-26-2002, 07:11 PM

well i can see how some of them will say that Lupin is a rip off of Spike, and Jigen is a rip off of Jet, and of coarse the every lovely Fujiko is a rip off of Faye but i think the differences between the shows will become quite apparent to the avid watcher.

one cant simply watch Lupin though and not get where a crap load of references suddenly come from that are used in anime.

Space Cadet

11-26-2002, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Desslar
The comic on the other hand...

Explain.

Killtacular

11-26-2002, 07:21 PM

you ain't seen nothing yet

..SOME DAY, Nothing..

SOME DAY..

(grabs binoculars and searches)

KingKoopa

11-26-2002, 07:58 PM

As long as the overused David Lucas isn't cast as Lupin, we should be fine about them calling it a ripoff.

Killtacular

11-26-2002, 08:15 PM

Well, though I can technically see them virtually porting the Bebop cast right over to Lupin, I can also see them switching stuff around. I don't know about their roster of actors, but LFV said that the guy who does Gene Starwind would make a good Lupin. I've never seen a sub so I wouldn't know.

Spike Mcdougal

11-26-2002, 08:39 PM

How do you know they wont use the same cast from Castle of Cagliostro?

Samurai Rocko

11-26-2002, 09:01 PM

This is good. Adult Swim on weekdays is going to be great. Now if only we can get Trigun, a longer Gundam series, and more Yu-Yu-Hakusho.

Fata Morgana

11-26-2002, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Spike Mcdougal
Ok I see Jet but is that Faye on Spike's left because it looks like Doremon's outfit

That's Vicious, not Faye!! Geez, you'd think the flat chest would be a giveaway. BBT (http://www.big-big-truck.com/bebop/) drew the picture, by the way. ^_^

Fata Morgana

Masamune2052

11-26-2002, 09:06 PM

IMHO, just give AS awhile and they will defintely get around to Trigun and hopefully they will loosen up on editing standards and send Evangelion to us. Take that Austrailia! :D

Originally posted by Fata Morgana
That's Vicious, not Faye!!
This reminds of the thread about people thinking Inu Yasha was a woman. :p

KingKoopa

11-26-2002, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Spike Mcdougal
How do you know they wont use the same cast from Castle of Cagliostro? FUNimation's cast is FUNimation's cast, they're not a seperate voice studio that FUNi just hires for their animes. While in theory Pioneer could hire each one individually for the part, it doesn't seem likely, when it would be cheaper to make their own cast. Not good for continuity, but it's alot cheaper. Same with the cameos in GXP, it'd be alot cheaper for FUNi to just recast the Tenchi cast.

Jude Santos

11-26-2002, 09:12 PM

FUNimation's cast is FUNimation's cast, they're not a seperate voice studio that FUNi just hires for their animes. While in theory Pioneer could hire each one individually for the part, it doesn't seem likely, when it would be cheaper to make their own cast. Not good for continuity, but it's alot cheaper. Same with the cameos in GXP, it'd be alot cheaper for FUNi to just recast the Tenchi cast.

actually, Castle of Cagliostro isnt a Funimation title, its by Manga and was dubbed by Animaze (i believe, i could be wrong). i could have sworn i read somewhere at Animeondvd.com that the same cast is doing the roles...

Masamune2052

11-26-2002, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by nothing
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43385&highlight=thief

there's a lot in store for adult swim that hasn't been touched on yet. sadly, i cannot comment on what's happening, but suffice it to say - you ain't seen nothing yet ;)
Hurry, make a prediction that Rurouni Kenshin or Evangelion will come to AS in, oh........about 3 months! :p

Artemis

11-26-2002, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Fatal
actually, Castle of Cagliostro isnt a Funimation title, its by Manga and was dubbed by Animaze (i believe, i could be wrong). i could have sworn i read somewhere at Animeondvd.com that the same cast is doing the roles...

Don't worry, you're not. Castle of Cagliostro was an Animaze dub. Sean Barker (aka David Hayter) was Lupin.

LinusMines

11-26-2002, 09:27 PM

Great news! I thought it was going to take another year for Lupin III to make its way onto CN.

The subbed version of Castle of Cagliostro was among the first anime films I ever saw. I agree the voice acting was great, as least to my n00b ears at the time, but still I'm expecting quality voice-work from Animaze. Mostly I'm psyched to finally see Hayao Miyazaki's work for TV.

Matt Hazuda

11-26-2002, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Masamune2052
Hurry, make a prediction that Rurouni Kenshin or Evangelion will come to AS in, oh........about 3 months! :p Eva will not be coming to AS for a long time if ever. It's already been said that The Anime Network will be airing it when they get off the ground.

I personally that Pioneer gave Lupin to AS as a test. They saw that MSG failed on Toonami, because it was old, and now they want to see if WS can take an old title that will have minimal editting done by Pioneer(and not Williams Street as they don't edit other companies shows anymore), and if it does well, they will give them an uber-reward that I'm sure they've been wanting for a while(can you say Trigun?). I'm not saying this to diss Lupin fans or anything(I've only seen Castle ofCaglistro and Mystery of Mamo anyways), but I'm betting that WS wanted something else, but Pioneer is making them work for it.

Sheamon

11-26-2002, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by zimbach
As soon as this show goes on the air, what do you think the chances are that well be flooded with newbie otaku complaining about "this cheap Cowboy Bebop ripoff", as those without a sense of history are likely to call it?

Well, considering there were people out there calling Char a Zechs clone last year, I'd say 95% that you'll see atleast the occasional mention of that idiocy.

Chris Wood

11-26-2002, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
Explain.

Is that an order? Anyway, the original Lupin the Third manga (comic) series by Monkey Punch which began in the late 1960s was rather risque and violent. Although the animated Lupin does have a good deal of violence, in the comic Lupin himself sometimes plays the cold-hearted killer, although of course he only kills evil types. The comic also has plenty of soft-porn-ish moments which, although brief and humorous, would never make it onto a TV screen. If you watch the first Lupin movie, Mystery of Mamo, you will get a pretty good feel for what the comic was like. In Lupin's other animated appearances he is a bit more restrained.

Chris Wood

11-26-2002, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by MDawg957

I personally that Pioneer gave Lupin to AS as a test. They saw that MSG failed on Toonami, because it was old, and now they want to see if WS can take an old title that will have minimal editting done by Pioneer(and not Williams Street as they don't edit other companies shows anymore), and if it does well, they will give them an uber-reward that I'm sure they've been wanting for a while(can you say Trigun?). I'm not saying this to diss Lupin fans or anything(I've only seen Castle ofCaglistro and Mystery of Mamo anyways), but I'm betting that WS wanted something else, but Pioneer is making them work for it.

Lupin is even older and creakier looking than Gundam, so if looks are everything it's in for a rough ride. The music is particularly creaky and could use an update. No, not the main Lupin theme (that's timeless), but the rest of the score. If the characters and stories are given a chance however it's one of the best anime series around.

ddojo

11-26-2002, 10:03 PM

"I personally that Pioneer gave Lupin to AS as a test. They saw that MSG failed on Toonami, because it was old, " -MDawg957

I read in Anime Invasion tha they took MSG off toonami because of 9/11, thats the last day it ared w/ like 5 eps left

Evil Dr. Reef

11-26-2002, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Artemis
Castle of Cagliostro was an Animaze dub. Sean Barker (aka David Hayter) was Lupin.
Solid Snake was Arsene Lupin? That doesn't seem like all that good of a fit...

rmarti3926

11-26-2002, 10:13 PM

AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Set your VCRs on Jan 12th!

New & Improved Adult Swim - NOW WITH SUPER-ASORBING MONKEY-PUNCH POWER!

Spike Mcdougal

11-26-2002, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by ddojo
"I personally that Pioneer gave Lupin to AS as a test. They saw that MSG failed on Toonami, because it was old, " -MDawg957

I read in Anime Invasion tha they took MSG off toonami because of 9/11, thats the last day it ared w/ like 5 eps left

That was one factor. The ratings sucked PLUS people hated the animation.

Well, considering there were people out there calling Char a Zechs clone last year, I'd say 95% that you'll see atleast the occasional mention of that idiocy.

Makes me glad I can get the point right off the bat.

Speaking off Bebop/Lupin. Can anyone see the Spike going after Lupin for the bounty?

Will Sturnick

11-26-2002, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Spike Mcdougal
I'm expecting a good dub from Animaze.

They usually give a good dub.

Spike Mcdougal

11-26-2002, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Fata Morgana
That's Vicious, not Faye!! Geez, you'd think the flat chest would be a giveaway. BBT (http://www.big-big-truck.com/bebop/) drew the picture, by the way. ^_^

Fata Morgana

I'M SO SORRY!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o I couldnt tell but now that I think about it, it would make sense for Vicious to dress like Goemon

*Sllams head against the wall*

STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!

NewLib

11-26-2002, 11:48 PM

Actually judging by some of Hayter's non-Snake VA jobs, I say he be perfect for the part...

lupin the 3rd

11-27-2002, 12:20 AM

Anyone know where i can find the book that lupin is based on

Lupin:Gentelmen theif

I hear it's a good book.

Nin-Nin69

11-27-2002, 01:21 AM

LUPIN THE 3RD ON ADULT SWIM?!? W00T!!! :D :D :D

Speaking off Bebop/Lupin. Can anyone see the Spike going after Lupin for the bounty?

Lupin was allways better than that wannabe Spike. Allthough I'd have Spike chase Nabishin for stealing his haircut. :D

Lord Trunks

11-27-2002, 01:49 PM

Yes Lupin the 3rd I can't wait...and I found out YU YU Hakusho will be on at 1 am in January...just hopefully new episodes soon :D other wise as long as there is something new I am happy :)

All-Star 1.5

11-27-2002, 03:09 PM

I don't mean to sound dumb or anything, but what is Lupin about anyway.

Space Cadet

11-27-2002, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by MDawg957

minimal editting done by Pioneer(and not Williams Street as they don't edit other companies shows anymore

Well, WS still edits Bandai shows... I don't know about Pioneer though.

Zero Angel

11-27-2002, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by J-GL
I don't mean to sound dumb or anything, but what is Lupin about anyway.

Ok to answer the question. Lupin is about...Lupin. Lupin III actually. He is a master thief and a lady's man. You also have Lupin's right hand man, Jigen, former Yakuza and master markesmen. Then there is Goemon (not Doemon), a samurai for hire, though he always complains about cuting worthless objects. Along for the ride ussually is the lovely Fujiko (Top 10 hotest anime babes), a spy that is at times working with Lupin, working against him, or just in bed with him. And then we have (my fave character) Zenigata, a japanese interpol agent who is forever trying to capture Lupin, sometimes they put their differences aside though and take out the truely evil men.

i love this show and all of the subsequent movies that have come out for it. i really cant watch this show in anything but sub however and i was really depressed when i found out that Lupin's original seiyuu died a few years ago. he was the voice of Lupin and will forever be the one true voice of the master thief.

Space Cadet

11-27-2002, 04:28 PM

Since this is the second series of Lupin, what happen to the first series? Shouldn't we be seeing that first?

Sir Gatts

11-27-2002, 04:42 PM

From somewhere on a snow covered hill.

Yahoo!

Chris Wood

11-27-2002, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Zero Angel
And then we have (my fave character) Zenigata, a japanese interpol agent who is forever trying to capture Lupin, sometimes they put their differences aside though and take out the truely evil men.

i really cant watch this show in anything but sub however and i was really depressed when i found out that Lupin's original seiyuu died a few years ago. he was the voice of Lupin and will forever be the one true voice of the master thief.

Zenigata rules! He's easily my favorite Lupin character. His best scene comes in I think The Hemingway Papers movie. He is on a train crossing the tunnel between France and England, following Lupin of course. He goes in between the train cars so he can discreetly cook his bowl of instant ramen, when suddenly the bad guys set off a bomb and the ocean floods the train. The next day he is arrested by the British police for illegal immigration becasue he washed up on the beach without his passport. Ha! Ha!

It's too bad that the original Lupin voice actor is no longer around, but the guy they got to replace him sounds very similar.

For beginners, Lupin III is basically a mix between Indy Jones, James Bond, and Austin Powers. He goes all over the world looking for obscure treasures to steal, battles evil madmen who are trying to take over the world, is constantly making jokes and tries to put the moves on any and very attractive female he comes across.

Mackenzie Rainelle

11-27-2002, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Desslar
It's too bad that the original Lupin voice actor is no longer around, but the guy they got to replace him sounds very similar.

Wasn't he the one that died of a concussion or something after falling down a flight of stairs?

ddojo

11-27-2002, 05:30 PM

Um, to the person who said that williams street doesnt edit: WS said that all shows come uncut and they have to edit them, they are all like this, except any Funimation shows, like DB and DBZ. Although, it doesnt make sense, becaus ethey've release edited sailor moon and edited Tenchi, so i dont know lol. Maybe its just a deal to release them

Chris Wood

11-27-2002, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
Wasn't he the one that died of a concussion or something after falling down a flight of stairs?

No idea, but I don't think that was it.

Conekiller

11-27-2002, 08:08 PM

Alright, i've always wanted to see this, mow I have the opportunity! Thank the animation gods for Adult Swim (now if we could only see Rejected...)

Sir Gatts

11-27-2002, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by ddojo
Um, to the person who said that williams street doesnt edit: WS said that all shows come uncut and they have to edit them, they are all like this, except any Funimation shows, like DB and DBZ. Although, it doesnt make sense, becaus ethey've release edited sailor moon and edited Tenchi, so i dont know lol. Maybe its just a deal to release them I believe Williams Street totally discontinued doing the editing of all the shows themselves some time ago,.. except for their own work of course.

Artemis

11-27-2002, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
Wasn't he the one that died of a concussion or something after falling down a flight of stairs?

That was a seiyuu from Sailor Moon....I think. I heard about at SOS quite some time ago, so I'm just assuming. ^_^;

Mackenzie Rainelle

11-27-2002, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Artemis
That was a seiyuu from Sailor Moon....I think. I heard about at SOS quite some time ago, so I'm just assuming. ^_^;

I know he was from Sailormoon, but he was also in the Lupin cast. I can't remember who he was though...o_o;;;

Spike Mcdougal

11-27-2002, 09:42 PM

Artemis, the only one I know from Sailor Moon was Shiho Niiyama who died of leukemia in February 2000.

Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
I know he was from Sailormoon, but he was also in the Lupin cast. I can't remember who he was though...o_o;;;

Are you thinking of Eiko Masuyama? She's the seiyuu for Fujiko and she voiced the Ice Queen in the Sailor Moon S movie

SpaceCowboy

11-28-2002, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by livingfruitvirus
Premiering Jan. 13th at midnight on Adult Swim!

I am so glad that Lupin III is finally coming to Adult Swim. It's just what the block needs!

Andy Mancini

11-28-2002, 01:48 AM

I really excited about this one. I've wanted to see it for a while, but due to anime section at the local Hollywood Video (featuring nothing but DBZ, "Tenchi Universe", and, for some strange reason, "Crying Freeman") and a severe lack of funds, I haven't had a chance to. I just have one question, and this my have already been answered, but are they going to eventually show all things "Lupin" on AS, on just the series in question?

EinBebop

11-28-2002, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by jdoggg
That's the show that was in the game "Cliff Hanger", right? That was my favorite video game at one point. Lupin had an instant fan when I found out what it was.

EinBebop

11-28-2002, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
Since this is the second series of Lupin, what happen to the first series? Shouldn't we be seeing that first? The second series began airing in 1978. There's a lot of concern that the animation will be considered dated.

The first series began airing in 1971, I believe. You figure it out. :)

Like Dragonball, they believe they'll have better luck with the second series; then they can go back and cash in with the first series if it does well.

SpaceCowboy

11-28-2002, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by KingKoopa
FUNimation's cast is FUNimation's cast, they're not a seperate voice studio that FUNi just hires for their animes. While in theory Pioneer could hire each one individually for the part, it doesn't seem likely, when it would be cheaper to make their own cast. Not good for continuity, but it's alot cheaper. Same with the cameos in GXP, it'd be alot cheaper for FUNi to just recast the Tenchi cast.

Um, the Castle of Cagliostro was dubbed by Manga Entertainment, NOT Funimation. Funimation has dubbed most of the other Lupin movies. However, I think Animaze did the dub for Manga Ent, so Pioneer may just use the same voice actors as that dub. The Manga dub wasn't bad.

Killtacular

11-28-2002, 04:32 PM

I'm pretty sure Pioneer IS using Animaze for the TV series.

SpaceCowboy

11-28-2002, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by SSJ Gohan 64
Since this is the second series of Lupin, what happen to the first series? Shouldn't we be seeing that first?

The first Lupin III series dates from the early 1970's and therefore is much older than the second series. Since the 2nd series (made in the late 70's) has somewhat dated animation, the earlier one has even more dated animation!

I have only seen the 2nd series and not the first, but from what I've heard of it, it is quite different and not as good as the 2nd series. The first series is also much more serious in tone than the latter one is.

The 1st series is only about 20 episodes, while the 2nd series is 155 episodes long.

Master Moron

11-30-2002, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Desslar
Lupin is even older and creakier looking than Gundam, so if looks are everything it's in for a rough ride. The music is particularly creaky and could use an update. No, not the main Lupin theme (that's timeless), but the rest of the score. If the characters and stories are given a chance however it's one of the best anime series around.

Are you suggesting changing the background music? I hope not, because I've never heard the original music score and I hate it when dubs change the music. Besides, old animation with new music will be strange. But, actually, I read on a thread somewhere on this board that Pioneer couldn't get the rights to some of the original music. So, we might hear some new music regardless.

KingKoopa

11-30-2002, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by Master Moron
Are you suggesting changing the background music? I hope not, because I've never heard the original music score and I hate it when dubs change the music. Besides, old animation with new music will be strange. But, actually, I read on a thread somewhere on this board that Pioneer couldn't get the rights to some of the original music. So, we might hear some new music regardless. I believe it was musical references they were forced to edit out of the series, I don't think any of the music will be changed. If any music does need to be changed, it'd probably be image songs, because everything else should be very easy to get the rights to.

sl4

11-30-2002, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by KingKoopa
I believe it was musical references they were forced to edit out of the series, I don't think any of the music will be changed. If any music does need to be changed, it'd probably be image songs, because everything else should be very easy to get the rights to.

Image songs? :confused:

Jude Santos

11-30-2002, 06:42 PM

according to Pioneer, there will be some music 'swapping' becuase some of the music were trademarked and has to stay in japan. and from what i heard, this music they're swapping doesnt even take up 5% of the original music

Chris Wood

11-30-2002, 08:09 PM

The main Lupin theme music should definitely stay (assuming it was even in the TV series). It's as identifiable as the Bond theme.

The rest of the music is so dated though that its absence would not be a big loss. Many 70s anime suffer from awful music. for example, Gatchaman is in every way superior to the Americanized Battle of the Planets, except for the embarrassingly hokey music.

Isondill

11-30-2002, 08:33 PM

I dont know if I've already replied, though I doubt it, But Lupin the 3rd: Castle of Caglistro, is one of my favorite films.

I've been really excited about this for quite a while...

Anyone know if the series is as good as that movie?

Lupin...I cant wait for this. ;)

Arxane

12-01-2002, 12:23 AM

I'd just like to say that this really surprised me. "Lupin the III". I've never seen this series, but I know it's a classic. And the fact that it's going to premiere on Adult Swim is amazing. This is a great opportunity for people to realize that this show is really adult. It has dated animation, but it has a mature story. That's what makes it adult, not ballet-like gunfights and blood flying from every imaginable place. Real adults will see this series for what it really is, which is what people should've done with "Mobile Suit Gundam". Oh, if only Adult Swim had come around then. If only...

But it kinda makes me wonder...why is "Lupin" premiering before "The Big O" and "Ghost in the Shell TV" when it was just announced now and those two shows were revealed several months ago?

KingKoopa

12-01-2002, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by arxane
I'd just like to say that this really surprised me. "Lupin the III". I've never seen this series, but I know it's a classic. And the fact that it's going to premiere on Adult Swim is amazing. This is a great opportunity for people to realize that this show is really adult. It has dated animation, but it has a mature story. That's what makes it adult, not ballet-like gunfights and blood flying from every imaginable place. Real adults will see this series for what it really is, which is what people should've done with "Mobile Suit Gundam". Oh, if only Adult Swim had come around then. If only...

But it kinda makes me wonder...why is "Lupin" premiering before "The Big O" and "Ghost in the Shell TV" when it was just announced now and those two shows were revealed several months ago? Probably because Big O 2 and GitS's dubs aren't finished yet. I'm expecting Big O to be in production, but according to Bandai, for GitS, as of about a month ago the production hadn't even started yet.

Zero Angel

12-01-2002, 01:04 PM

Funi has dubbed only three movies at this point, three of what? 10? 15? there are lots more movies to be done before they see the light of day here although there have been 2 Lupin movies release prior to Funi getting the rights to them.

Now...to clear up some confussion, Lupin is not Studio Ghibli. if it was then it would be owned by the Empire of the Mouse and not Funi, considering that Miramax purchased the Ghibli library and then Disney purchased them. i am not sure what is being done about Castle of Cagliostro since that was a movie by Hayao Miyazaki but put out with MANGA before the merger.

all i can say though is this, if it is the dub cast from CC then i dont think i will want to watch it on AS and i will simply have to wait for it on DVD.

Sprocket

12-01-2002, 04:16 PM

True, Ghibli doesn't OWN Lupin, but Miyazaki and many other men who worked on the Lupin TV series would go on to form Studio Ghibli. Lupin, I believe, was some of thier earliest work, but I could be wrong.

And rights are a tricky thing. After all, Buena Vista owns Cagliostro's DVD rights in Japan. But that doesn't make a lick of difference here.

Chris Wood

12-02-2002, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Anime Toonami
I dont know if I've already replied, though I doubt it, But Lupin the 3rd: Castle of Caglistro, is one of my favorite films.

I've been really excited about this for quite a while...

Anyone know if the series is as good as that movie?

I've only seen a few episodes of the series but in my opinion, animation quality aside, the stories are better than that movie, or at least more authentically Lupin-esque.

I suggest you watch some of the other Lupin films before you decide Cagliostro is the best.