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wonderfly
11-22-2002, 01:38 PM
Just out of curiosity, what AS shows would you allow your own kids to watch, (yeah, I know, most people here are technically kids, though maturity level is always debatable for all age groups).
So...if you had kids, (or if you do have kids) then what shows would you allow them to watch, and at what age?
Frankly I find those disclamers stupid. I say "If your 13 years old, watch it if you so choose". Most of these "Adult" shows are meant for teenagers anyway.
Try and divide the kids up this way:
1-7 years old
8-10 years old
11-13 years old.
For instance, this is how I'd do it:
1-7 years old: I might let them watch Ripping Friends, and that's it.
8-10: eh, I might let them watch any of the Gundam's. Space Ghost, if it entertained them.
11-13: Definently let them watch Gundam's, InuYasha, YuYuHakusho. Maybe the Brak Show.
13 or above: Cowboy Bebop, (though I'm sure younger folks could get into it, it's more sophisticated, and meant for teens and adults).
Also, Sealab and ATHF would be meant for age 13 or above, in my opinion...same with Harvey Birdman...
Of course, these are optional depending on the kids maturity level.
livingfruitvirus
11-22-2002, 01:41 PM
you forgot Home Movies
TWEAK
11-22-2002, 02:01 PM
The age of my children would not matter, Why? I'm Anti-Censorship. My parents were the same, I grew up waching In Living Color, Liquid TV, not hiddin porno. I beleave anything there is for a person to see, They have the right to see. If they do not understand somthing, than explain it. And if its somthing crazy like Sealab with people beating eachother down with clubs, just explain thats not normal accepted behaiveor. I feel the same way about profanity, if a words used in context and not blurted out like a kid with teretts, it's okay. But thats just how I grew up ya know. Moste people raize there children in a way how there parents raized them.
TWEAK
candy17
11-22-2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by TWEAK
The age of my children would not matter, Why? I'm Anti-Censorship. My parents were the same, I grew up waching In Living Color, Liquid TV, not hiddin porno. I beleave anything there is for a person to see, They have the right to see. If they do not understand somthing, than explain it. And if its somthing crazy like Sealab with people beating eachother down with clubs, just explain thats not normal accepted behaiveor. I feel the same way about profanity, if a words used in context and not blurted out like a kid with teretts, it's okay. But thats just how I grew up ya know. Moste people raize there children in a way how there parents raized them.
TWEAK
Same here. I grew up with such twisted "adult" cartoons as "Ren and Stimpy", "The Simpsons", and "Beavis and Butthead" and my mom was the same way.
Sora Takenouchi
11-22-2002, 02:47 PM
Age wouldn't matter. It would all depend on maturity.
Mynd Hed
11-22-2002, 04:31 PM
Any and all. I don't believe in censorship regardless of a person's age. I think that viewing a wide variety of material, even some that some people would consider objectionable, is good for personal growth. It creates a well-rounded personality capable of dealing with a variety of challenges.
Also, I feel that children tend to do a good job of regulating themselves. If a child watches something that's too violent for him or her, he or she isn't going to enjoy it and will stop watching it.
But that's just me, I recognize the right of parents to raise their children as they see fit, and if some parents wish to limit their children's experiences, that's their choice. I feel sorry for the child, and I disagree strongly with the parents' decision, but I won't interfere.
czyznyck99
11-22-2002, 05:06 PM
When they are 13, everything. By then they should have some understanding between fact and fiction enough to enjoy adult cartoons.
Later.
Will Sturnick
11-22-2002, 05:28 PM
1-7: Rippinf Friends (but not until they're like 5 or 6)
8-10: maybe Gundam
11-13: definitely Gundam
13 and Up: Anything else
I don't really believe in censoring the shows themselves, but I do believe in preventing kids from shows with material innapropiate for their age. Like If I were a parent now (which I'm not and hopefully won't be for years to come) I wouldn't let my 8 year old watch Friends or Buffy or The Simpsons.
Kat Pryde
11-22-2002, 06:16 PM
I'm 14 and watch CowboyBebop, YuYu, Inu, and Outlaw Star.
My brother's 8 and watches Outlaw Star.
My parents doesn't really see the AS heading on the corner of the screen, so they don't know it's actually an "18 and older" block. Yuyu and Bebop are the ones I'm afraid of getting caught watching, if it's at a scene with prophanity or Spike checking out his mags. Other than that, I'll be continuing taping AS as long as it has good shows.
Samurai Rocko
11-22-2002, 07:22 PM
Age doesn't matter, if your kids start doing inappropiate stuff that they saw on the show then don't let them watch it.
Maturity Level 1: Ripping Friends
Maturity Level 2: Gundam, Pre-Cussing Space Ghost
Maturity Level 3: Post Cussing Space Ghost, The Brak Show, Home Movies
Maturity Level 4: Harvey Birdman: Attroney at Law, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Yu-Yu-Hakusho, Big O 2, Baby Blues
Maturity Level 5: Sealab 2021, Oblongs, Mission Hill, Futurama, Inu-Yasha, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Will Sturnick
11-22-2002, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Samurai Rocko
Age doesn't matter, if your kids start doing inappropiate stuff that they saw on the show then don't let them watch it.
Maturity Level 1: Ripping Friends
Maturity Level 2: Gundam, Pre-Cussing Space Ghost
Maturity Level 3: Post Cussing Space Ghost, The Brak Show, Home Movies
Maturity Level 4: Harvey Birdman: Attroney at Law, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Yu-Yu-Hakusho, Big O 2, Baby Blues
Maturity Level 5: Sealab 2021, Oblongs, Mission Hill, Futurama, Inu-Yasha, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
That's a good way to look at it.
The Landstander
11-22-2002, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Samurai Rocko
Age doesn't matter, if your kids start doing inappropiate stuff that they saw on the show then don't let them watch it.
Maturity Level 1: Ripping Friends
Maturity Level 2: Gundam, Pre-Cussing Space Ghost
Maturity Level 3: Post Cussing Space Ghost, The Brak Show, Home Movies
Maturity Level 4: Harvey Birdman: Attroney at Law, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Yu-Yu-Hakusho, Big O 2, Baby Blues
Maturity Level 5: Sealab 2021, Oblongs, Mission Hill, Futurama, Inu-Yasha, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
i think that's as well put as you're gonna get.
Outlander00
11-23-2002, 03:05 PM
It would be discretionary, I guess (if I had kids :p ). Hypothetically, first off, they wouldnt be up that late to begin with. But to let them watch, I guess it would depend on how old they are. Under 10, no way in hell to any of them because I don't want the rug rat cursing up a storm (not that it matters cause we pretty much know all the basic ones from age 9 :p ). 10 - 13, I guess most of the comedy shows, if not all. ASA, Maybe YYH and Inuyasha and deffinately Gundam and OS. I guess 13 and older, Id let them watch Cowboy Bebop.
Im a big believer of non-censorship as well, but theres a limit of what your kids should watch at certain ages because they dont fully understand (until they are older) the kinds of themes that come up in the shows. Letting them watch them at a young age would do some harm in their behavioral upbringing (and not to mention keeping them disciplined). I would deffinately tell them what my father said to me when I was young: that you cant beleive everything you see on TV. But still, a little parental discretion is always good ESPECIALLY when they are under 13.
citrusmiracle
11-23-2002, 04:11 PM
The word "censorship" is actually being thrown around a little too loosely here, and a lot of things being discussed don't really even apply.
When I'm watching Adult Swim, I do sort of scoff at the disclaimer - especially because it's so strong, ("intense violence" and "sexual situations" don't really apply to the Sealab blowing up and an allusion to penises) but I can see it being there, overtly and often, as a way to diffuse parents whining that their child heard Bizarro Debbie calling herself a whore.
But, that doesn't really apply as censorship, nor does a parent deciding (from that disclaimer) that they don't want their child seeing that show. A network that recently bought the first season of Pokémon needs more than it's fair share of "caveat viewer" if they're going to show something even slightly adult-related. Like the Parental Advisory label on CDs, that sort of warning is an effort against censorship, not for it.
As far as what I'd let my child see - personally, that's an episode-by-episode basis. I personally loved "Happy Time Harry", but I could see that bumming a 12-year old out. I don't know that I'd outright say "you can't watch this" for any single Adult Swim show I can think of - but in a lot of respects, I couldn't see them wanting to see it either - okay, maybe the "Pee-Wee's Playhouse" attitude that Williams Street has, but that's about it.
Originally posted by Samurai Rocko
Age doesn't matter, if your kids start doing inappropiate stuff that they saw on the show then don't let them watch it.
Maturity Level 1: Ripping Friends
Maturity Level 2: Gundam, Pre-Cussing Space Ghost
Maturity Level 3: Post Cussing Space Ghost, The Brak Show, Home Movies
Maturity Level 4: Harvey Birdman: Attroney at Law, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Yu-Yu-Hakusho, Big O 2, Baby Blues
Maturity Level 5: Sealab 2021, Oblongs, Mission Hill, Futurama, Inu-Yasha, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Cool, but I'd put Z Gundam with 4. (If it comes out)
I don't have kids, but I have a little bro, and I let him watch all of it. He hasn't really changed that much since before I let him watch it.
Dalamar13
11-23-2002, 06:11 PM
I wouldn't let them watch it. Kids are part of the reason we're losing the Saturday night line-up. (grumbles something about kids and ADULT Swim)
SirLemming
11-23-2002, 09:00 PM
Actually, I think Cartoon Network is just making an excuse to expand the block 9 hours.
It's true what Beatdigga said about everyone using the word "censorship." I, personally, am against most forms of censorship in that I think people have the right to say whatever they want in their artistic work. However, I'm also not some crusader for letting everyone watch everything. I think some steps should be taken to make sure certain people aren't exposed to certain artistic work. Most of these steps should be taken by the parents, to whatever extent they deem appropriate. It's also the network's responsibility to be sensible and air certain things at times when kids aren't the most likely to watch them.
Anyway, I'd let my kids watch:
The Brak Show - once they're about 8 or something, I guess, since that's when I started watching The Simpsons
Sealab, all of the Adult Swim Action stuff - once they turn 13.
Space Ghost: Coast To Coast - I have no idea. I'd probably just be watching it myself and eventually they'd get sucked in. I really can't determine when they'd start to understand that kind of humor.
Hmm, that's pretty much all the Adult Swim stuff I've seen so far. I personally feel no obligation to watch the whole block, just a few of the shows, like on any other channel...
Under 10 years old, I wouldn't give them any shows in AS to look at, not even Ripping Friends (that would scar them for life).
10-15: Home Movies, YYH, all Gundams, Brak Show, ATHF, OS, and Inu Yasha.
Over 15: Cowboy Bebop, Sealab, Big O 2, Ghost in the Shell, Harvey Birdman, and Space Ghost.
Although i don't agree with censorship when watching stuffs on TV, but if i become a parent i better be the one doing the parenting rather than the TV or those snobs at that censor boards.
Masamune2052
11-24-2002, 12:06 AM
Oh kids, hahaha, I don't have any. But when I do, and they'll be deadly if they are anything like me, then I'll let them watch whatever they want because I don't want to censor them too much. It's complicated, but I've got a plan.
saladdays
11-25-2002, 11:50 AM
The age of my children would not matter, Why? I'm Anti-Censorship. My parents were the same, I grew up waching In Living Color, Liquid TV, not hiddin porno. I beleave anything there is for a person to see, They have the right to see. If they do not understand somthing, than explain it. And if its somthing crazy like Sealab with people beating eachother down with clubs, just explain thats not normal accepted behaiveor. I feel the same way about profanity, if a words used in context and not blurted out like a kid with teretts, it's okay. But thats just how I grew up ya know. Moste people raize there children in a way how there parents raized them.
The only problem with this view is that the content of many of such shows that were on when you were younger are nothing compared with many shows today. But I'm not going to get in a big debate over this, since it would take up far too much of my time. I'll only say that I won't let my children watch TV all of the time. There are far better things for kids to do than watch TV all day.
candy17
11-25-2002, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by wonderfly
Just out of curiosity, what AS shows would you allow your own kids to watch, (yeah, I know, most people here are technically kids, though maturity level is always debatable for all age groups).
So...if you had kids, (or if you do have kids) then what shows would you allow them to watch, and at what age?
Frankly I find those disclamers stupid. I say "If your 13 years old, watch it if you so choose". Most of these "Adult" shows are meant for teenagers anyway.
Try and divide the kids up this way:
1-7 years old
8-10 years old
11-13 years old.
For instance, this is how I'd do it:
1-7 years old: I might let them watch Ripping Friends, and that's it.
8-10: eh, I might let them watch any of the Gundam's. Space Ghost, if it entertained them.
11-13: Definently let them watch Gundam's, InuYasha, YuYuHakusho. Maybe the Brak Show.
13 or above: Cowboy Bebop, (though I'm sure younger folks could get into it, it's more sophisticated, and meant for teens and adults).
Also, Sealab and ATHF would be meant for age 13 or above, in my opinion...same with Harvey Birdman...
Of course, these are optional depending on the kids maturity level.
Unlike you, I wouldn't let a 1-6 year old child watch AS because they need to develop their minds first before they warp them.
As for 7-9 year olds, I'd let them watch Ripping Friends because it looks like a cheesy Saturday morning cartoon (come to think of it, it *was* a cheesy SM cartoon) and they probably wouldn't get any of the jokes meant for the older crowd. Also any of those AS specials (except for the unaired "Rejected") because they don't look as adult as advertised and you know it.
8-10: Probably "Oblongs" because that too looks like a SMC (Saturday Morning cartoon) The Brak Show, Home Movies and SGC2C if they can handle it.
11-13: , SeaLab 2021, Inyu-Yasha, any Gundam series, and YuYu Hakusho.
13 and over: Mission Hill, Outlaw Star (if it were uncut), Cowboy Bebop, Futurama, and Party Wagon.
dawnyoshi
11-25-2002, 10:36 PM
If they were under 8 I wouldn't let them stay up until midnight to watch it anyway. They'd need sleep. ^_^
8 and up just about everything except for Mission Hill and Bebop. Nor would I let them watch ATHF or 2021 since they can just be stupid at times. I was 7 when I first watched Space Ghost, and about 11 when I say Family Guy. Honestly loose censorship and explaining what isn't understood is a great way to develop maturity in my opinion.
Once they're over 10, I'd let them see Bebop if they want to. Their choice, and if they are freaked out it's merely a lesson they need to learn more about life. ^^
not that I'd say to them "Life is full of cynics such as myself, along with yuppies that drive SUVs."
wonderfly
11-26-2002, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by dawnyoshi
If they were under 8 I wouldn't let them stay up until midnight to watch it anyway. They'd need sleep. ^_^
Guys:
Of course I wouldn't let them stay up that late, (unless they're 10, or better: 12 or older, and of course if it was the weekend). But I record my AS shows onto collection tapes, to watch over and over again. My young one already pulls out my Pokemon and DBZ tapes to watch. But what if he wanted to pull out one of my other AS tapes someday soon? I wonder which ones to keep off limits. Thus, me bringing up this topic.
chibilain
11-26-2002, 02:02 PM
This is all very hypothetical, as I noticed most if not all of you said you didn't have kids. Things change when you actually do have them though (what am I saying? I don't have kids either!) and a lot of you will hav a different outlook on what's appropriate for your own specific child. My mother, for example, let me watch virtually whatever I wanted when I was 8, but there is so much she censors for my 8 year old brother. A lot depends on the individual child, so yes I whole heartedly agree with the 'maturity not age' statements.
Also, think about the general content in a lot of AS's shows; how many 9 or 10 year olds will even want to watch them? Not just violence, sex and swear words fall into the 'adult themes' catagory, and I imagine a lot of kids just wouldn't be interested or would get bored with some of the stuff on AS to begin with. Naturally their senses of humor are different from who Williams Street is targetting the shows to. If all else fails, remember they won't even get most of the dirtiest jokes anyway.
So, wonderfly, if you're curious as to what you should allow your little brother to watch, maybe let him sample a little bit from each, but depending on his age try and keep him away from, say, most episodes of Bebop and Mission Hill.
Zorak Owns All
11-26-2002, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by TWEAK
The age of my children would not matter, Why? I'm Anti-Censorship. My parents were the same, I grew up waching In Living Color, Liquid TV, not hiddin porno. I beleave anything there is for a person to see, They have the right to see. If they do not understand somthing, than explain it. And if its somthing crazy like Sealab with people beating eachother down with clubs, just explain thats not normal accepted behaiveor. I feel the same way about profanity, if a words used in context and not blurted out like a kid with teretts, it's okay. But thats just how I grew up ya know. Moste people raize there children in a way how there parents raized them.
TWEAK
I didn't grow up with the same shows, but my parents don't really censor anything. I'd be the same with my kids too...I was playing Mortal Kombat and stuff when I was 7...I play GTA games and I'm only 15. I've seen movies with violence and nudity, and all that crap. I suppose if when I was 7, I tried to hurt someone, then I doubt I'd be allowed to play MK, but thats how I'd be with my kids too. So yeah...I'm anti-censorship, and none of the Adult Swim cartoons are even that bad IMO.
-Kevin
Thank the Lord my parents are easy on censorship. I remember when I was twelve my uncle buying me Duke Nukem 3D and my parents just smiling.
The only thing that pisses them off is when I spend too much time on it.
So- Unless Adult Swim shows "Hot Springs Planet Tenri" uncut, my kids can watch whatever they want.
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