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Condiment King
11-13-2002, 08:15 PM
Has anyone heard of Lateral Thinking Puzzles? It is a game in which the person whose turn it is gives a puzzle. Then, you ask Yes/No/Irrelevant questions in order to get clues to figure out the puzzle.

Example:
Puzzle: Jack walked into a bar. He fell down. Why?

Question #1: How did he walk?
Answer #1: Irrelevant.
Question #2: Was it an iron bar?
Answer #2: Yes.
Question #3: So, he fell down because he walked into an iron bar.
Answer #3: Yes, you got it! You're turn!

Got it? Ok, here's the first actual puzzle:

Bill bought Jill a newspaper. Jill read three lines and threw it in the trash. Bill was pleased. Why?

Danielle
11-13-2002, 08:26 PM
Are Bill and Jill related?

Condiment King
11-13-2002, 09:25 PM
Are Bill and Jill related?

Nope.

Parallax
11-13-2002, 09:38 PM
Does she like to read?

Condiment King
11-13-2002, 11:22 PM
Does she like to read?
Doesn't matter. Irrelevant.

BlueAngelGal
11-13-2002, 11:42 PM
Were they bylines?

TimTwoFace
11-14-2002, 03:43 AM
Was it a tabloid or some other publication that doesn't get any respect?

-Tim

AceOfKnaves
11-14-2002, 06:53 AM
Was there a specific title to be read?

Watermelon
11-14-2002, 06:58 AM
Were Bill and Jill mad at someone? If so, did the newspaper article say something about that person they were mad at? And if Jill threw it away because she just wanted the article, Bill was pleased because she read it. Is that right?

Condiment King
11-14-2002, 04:10 PM
Were they bylines?
Irrevelant. Doesn't matter.


Was it a tabloid or some other publication that doesn't get any respect?
It was a daily newspaper such as the New York Times or the Boston Globe.


Was there a specific title to be read?
Nope.


Were Bill and Jill mad at someone?
Yes.


If so, did the newspaper article say something about that person they were mad at?
Nope.


And if Jill threw it away because she just wanted the article, Bill was pleased because she read it. Is that right?
Yes.

Watermelon
11-15-2002, 07:54 AM
Were Bill and Jill mad at a well known person, i.e George Bush, Mark McGwire, etc?

Condiment King
11-15-2002, 03:20 PM
Were Bill and Jill mad at a well known person, i.e George Bush, Mark McGwire, etc?
Irrelevant. Doesn't matter.

Condiment King
11-19-2002, 04:42 PM
Any more questions? Need a hint? :confused:

Mattashell
11-20-2002, 06:30 PM
Were they mad at eachother?

Condiment King
11-20-2002, 10:09 PM
Were they mad at eachother?
Yes.

murmur
11-21-2002, 04:52 PM
Were they arguing over the facts of a current event or something else a paper would feature? Did Jill toss out the paper in anger because it proved Bill was right?

Condiment King
11-22-2002, 10:21 PM
Were they arguing over the facts of a current event or something else a paper would feature?
Nope.


Did Jill toss out the paper in anger because it proved Bill was right?
Nope.

Parallax
11-22-2002, 10:24 PM
Was Jack on the front page on the newspaper?

Condiment King
11-22-2002, 10:37 PM
Was Jack on the front page on the newspaper?
Nope.

Mattashell
11-23-2002, 06:29 AM
Are Bill and Jill in a relationship?

Condiment King
11-23-2002, 11:09 AM
Are Bill and Jill in a relationship?
Nope.

Watermelon
11-23-2002, 11:38 AM
Did the article contain an important picture(s)?

Condiment King
11-23-2002, 12:42 PM
Did the article contain an important picture(s)?

Nope.

Mattashell
11-23-2002, 08:26 PM
Did she throw it away because what she read, informed her of all she needed to know from the paper? In other words, did she throw it away because she didn't need to read it anymore?

cjt217
11-23-2002, 08:47 PM
Not technically

Condiment King
11-24-2002, 07:19 PM
Did she throw it away because what she read, informed her of all she needed to know from the paper? In other words, did she throw it away because she didn't need to read it anymore?

Yes.

Watermelon
11-25-2002, 06:52 AM
Was it an everyday newspaper like New York Times, or a newspaper that's not local? If you understand.

Mattashell
11-25-2002, 05:56 PM
Did Bill buy the paper because he wanted her to see what it said?

Condiment King
11-26-2002, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by 0
Was it an everyday newspaper like New York Times, or a newspaper that's not local? If you understand.

Doesn't matter. Irrelevant.


Originally posted by Mattashell
Did Bill buy the paper because he wanted her to see what it said?

Nope.

ProdigyCube
11-27-2002, 12:16 AM
Is Bill gay?

Condiment King
11-27-2002, 01:12 PM
Is Bill gay?
No.

Mattashell
11-27-2002, 08:10 PM
Was Jill's literacy in question?

Was her eyesight in question?

Daniel P
11-27-2002, 08:26 PM
Is Bill happy that Jill is mad at him?

Condiment King
11-27-2002, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Mattashell
Was Jill's literacy in question?
Nope.


Originally posted by Mattashell
Was Jill's eyesight in question?
Nope.


Originally posted by dacp3
Is Bill happy that Jill is mad at him?
Nope.

Mattashell
11-27-2002, 08:54 PM
Was she reading outloud?

Daniel P
11-27-2002, 08:56 PM
Is Bill deaf?

Condiment King
11-28-2002, 01:10 PM
Was she reading outloud?
YES!!!!!

Is Bill deaf?
Nope.

Nick at Knight
11-28-2002, 09:55 PM
Could their age have any part in this?

BlueAngelGal
11-28-2002, 10:20 PM
Was Jill reading the stock page?

Does Bill own stock, and if so, did it go up?

Mattashell
11-28-2002, 10:48 PM
Does bill have touble seeing? Reading?

Condiment King
11-29-2002, 05:20 PM
Could their age have any part in this?
Yes!

Was Jill reading the stock page?
No.

Does Bill own stock, and if so, did it go up?
No.

Does bill have touble seeing? Reading?
No.

Mattashell
11-29-2002, 07:02 PM
Is Jill older?

Condiment King
11-29-2002, 09:23 PM
Is Jill older?
No.

Nick at Knight
11-29-2002, 10:22 PM
Is Jill younger like, a child and Bill got the newspaper to see if she could read, and she read it out loud to prove that she could in fact read and pronounce what she was reading. And once she knew she could...she didn't need to...read the rest and...I can't explain why they'd be mad at each other.. so...that's all I got.

Condiment King
11-29-2002, 10:25 PM
Is Jill younger like, a child and Bill got the newspaper to see if she could read, and she read it out loud to prove that she could in fact read and pronounce what she was reading. And once she knew she could...she didn't need to...read the rest and...I can't explain why they'd be mad at each other.. so...that's all I got.
HINT: Jill is a child but she isn't young enough to just now be learning how to read. She's around 8, I'd say.

Mattashell
11-30-2002, 02:07 PM
Is it important what the paper says?

Condiment King
11-30-2002, 08:06 PM
Is it important what the paper says?
No.

Mattashell
11-30-2002, 08:55 PM
Is Bill a teacher?

Condiment King
11-30-2002, 09:18 PM
Is Bill a teacher?
No.

coolman86
11-30-2002, 10:50 PM
Is it Jill didnt know how to read and she was getting frustraited so she threw it away, bill was happy because he didnt have to listen to her reading the newspaper.

Condiment King
12-01-2002, 12:23 AM
Is it Jill didnt know how to read and she was getting frustraited so she threw it away, bill was happy because he didnt have to listen to her reading the newspaper.

Nope.

Watermelon
12-01-2002, 09:58 AM
Are Bill and Jill rivals?

coolman86
12-01-2002, 07:33 PM
Does it start with the letter o

Alaskanbullworm
12-01-2002, 07:58 PM
Does it have to do with school, grades, accomplishments?

Did she read the front page?

Does it have to do with something about a schedule?

murmur
12-03-2002, 02:53 AM
Is Bill Jill's father? Or older relative of some sort? Was Jill being disciplined in some manner? Did Bill make her read the paper? If so, as a punishment?

Condiment King
12-04-2002, 04:34 PM
Are Bill and Jill rivals?
Nope.

Does it start with the letter o
Um, no.

Does it have to do with school, grades, accomplishments?
Nope.

Did she read the front page?
Yes.

Does it have to do with something about a schedule?
Nope.

Is Bill Jill's father?
Nope.

Or older relative of some sort?
Nope.

Was Jill being disciplined in some manner?
Nope.

Did Bill make her read the paper?
Yes!

If so, as a punishment?
Nope.

Alaskanbullworm
12-04-2002, 04:38 PM
Is the article about what has happend to them?

Condiment King
12-04-2002, 04:41 PM
Is the article about what has happend to them?
Nope.

Mattashell
12-04-2002, 06:12 PM
Are they the same age?

Condiment King
12-04-2002, 09:55 PM
Are they the same age?
Nope.

Watermelon
12-05-2002, 07:48 AM
Is Jill mad at a rival other then Bill?

murmur
12-05-2002, 04:18 PM
Hmmm...despite the fact that the article is not "about them," I'm tempted to try this one....

Was it about what happened to Jill? Or, rather, a falsehood about Jill?? Was Bill her kidnapper? Did the newspaper declare her search over and that they found her body or something? Okay, it's a wild one but it's a guess.

Condiment King
12-05-2002, 04:32 PM
Is Jill mad at a rival other then Bill?
Nope.

Was it about what happened to Jill?
Nope.

Or, rather, a falsehood about Jill??
Nope.

Was Bill her kidnapper?
OMG, YES!!!!!

Did the newspaper declare her search over and that they found her body or something?
Nope.

coolman86
12-05-2002, 07:06 PM
Did the paper say that the parents said Good Ridance someone kiddnapped our daughter.

Mattashell
12-05-2002, 07:50 PM
Here's what we know so far:

Bill bought Jill a newspaper. Jill read three lines and threw it in the trash. Bill was pleased.

It was a daily newspaper such as the New York Times or the Boston Globe.
Bill and Jill were mad at someone.
Jill threw it away because she just wanted the article, Bill was pleased because she read it.
They were mad at eachother.
She threw it away because what she read, informed her of all she needed to know from the paper. In other words, she threw it away because she didn't need to read it anymore.
She was reading outloud.
Their age has a part in this.
Jill is a child but she isn't young enough to just now be learning how to read. She's around 8.
She read the front page.
Bill made her read the paper.
Bill was her kidnapper.

Bill and Jill are not related.
There was not a specific title to be read.
The newspaper article did not say something about that person they were mad at.
They were not arguing over the facts of a current event or something else a paper would feature.
Jill did not toss out the paper in anger because it proved Bill was right.
Bill was not on the front page on the newspaper.
Bill and Jill are not in a relationship.
The article did not contain an important picture.
Bill did not buy the paper because he wanted her to see what it said.
Bill is not gay.
Jill's literacy is not in question.
Jill's eyesight is not in question.
Bill is not happy that Jill is mad at him.
Bill is not deaf.
Jill was not reading the stock page.
Bill does not own stock that went up.
Bill does not have touble seeing or reading.
Jill is not older.
It is not important what the paper says.
Bill is not a teacher.
Jill did not throw it away because she didnt know how to read and she was getting frustraited.
Bill and Jill are not rivals.
It does not start with the letter o.
It does not have to do with school, grades, or accomplishments.
It does not have to do with something about a schedule.
Bill is not Jill's father or older relative of some sort.
Jill was not being disciplined.
It was not a punishment.
The article is not about what has happend to them.
They are not the same age.
Jill is not mad at a rival other then Bill.
It was not about what happened to Jill or a falsehood about Jill.
The newspaper did not declare her search over and that they found her body.

Hopefully this will help avoid any more repeat questions.

Compiling this list gave me some Ideas.

Did Jill ask Bill to buy yhe paper for her?

Was Jill expecting to see something about her, Bill, or the kidnapping on the front page?

Did she throw it away in frustration, because of what it did not say?

Was Bill happy that the article had no relevent information?

Condiment King
12-05-2002, 08:45 PM
Thanks, Mattashell! :)


Did the paper say that the parents said Good Ridance someone kiddnapped our daughter.
No

Did Jill ask Bill to buy yhe paper for her?
Yes

Was Jill expecting to see something about her, Bill, or the kidnapping on the front page?
Wow, tough question. Hmm...I suppose so. Yes being that young.

Did she throw it away in frustration, because of what it did not say?
After answering the last question, I suppose so, Yes.

Was Bill happy that the article had no relevent information?
Again, after the last two, I suppose he would be. Yes.

Mattashell
12-05-2002, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Condiment King
Thanks, Mattashell! :)


No

Yes

Wow, tough question. Hmm...I suppose so. Yes being that young.

After answering the last question, I suppose so, Yes.

Again, after the last two, I suppose he would be. Yes.

But I take it those are not the answers you're looking for.

Condiment King
12-05-2002, 08:55 PM
But I take it those are not the answers you're looking for.
Yes.
HINT: Pay close attention to the first question I answered on my last post. :)

Mattashell
12-05-2002, 09:04 PM
Did the paper say something about Jill's parents?

Condiment King
12-05-2002, 09:07 PM
Did the paper say something about Jill's parents?
Nope.

Mattashell
12-05-2002, 09:10 PM
Are the parents part of the answer?

coolman86
12-05-2002, 09:42 PM
Did jills parents have another baby and forget about her.

Condiment King
12-05-2002, 10:14 PM
Are the parents part of the answer?
Yes!

Did jills parents have another baby and forget about her.
Nope!

coolman86
12-05-2002, 10:46 PM
Did Jills Parents die.

Daniel P
12-06-2002, 06:45 AM
Are their parents dead?

coolman86
12-06-2002, 08:28 AM
Did Jills parents win the lottery.

and Did Bill see that there was a big reward from jills parents to bring her back.

Mattashell
12-06-2002, 11:46 AM
Is there a secret message in the paper?

Did the parents agree to pay a ransom?

Condiment King
12-06-2002, 05:08 PM
Did Jills Parents die.
No.

Are their parents dead?
No.

Did Jills parents win the lottery.
No.

and Did Bill see that there was a big reward from jills parents to bring her back.
No.

Is there a secret message in the paper?
No.

Did the parents agree to pay a ransom?
Yes.

Watermelon
12-06-2002, 05:23 PM
Were the parents killed?

And if that's already been asked:

Does Jill dislike Bill, but does Bill like Jill?

Mattashell
12-06-2002, 05:55 PM
Was the money wrapped in a newspaper?

If that's not it, do the parents own the publisher of the paper?

coolman86
12-06-2002, 09:27 PM
Did Bill molest Jill?

Condiment King
12-06-2002, 11:00 PM
Were the parents killed?
Nope. That's been asked 3 or 4 times... :D That's alright though. ;)

Does Jill dislike Bill, but does Bill like Jill?
I say this very loosely, in a sense, yes.

Was the money wrapped in a newspaper?
No.

If that's not it, do the parents own the publisher of the paper?
No.

Did Bill molest Jill?
No.

coolman86
12-07-2002, 12:46 AM
Did the bank loaning jills parents money go bankrupt.

Condiment King
12-07-2002, 08:59 PM
Did the bank loaning jills parents money go bankrupt.
No.

Watermelon
12-08-2002, 08:28 AM
Is there someone else invovled?

murmur
12-08-2002, 05:19 PM
Is it the date of the paper that really matters?? Did Jill read it and realize how long she's been kidnapped?

How the parents work into it I still don't know...I can't help but think that some of the answers have led us astray about that...

Condiment King
12-10-2002, 06:10 PM
Is there someone else invovled?
Nope. Just Bill, Jill, and Jill's parents.

Is it the date of the paper that really matters??
No.

Did Jill read it and realize how long she's been kidnapped?
No.

Condiment King
12-12-2002, 10:41 PM
Any new questions? :confused: :tom:

Watermelon
12-13-2002, 08:24 AM
Do Jill's parents dislike Bill like Jill?

Condiment King
12-13-2002, 11:02 PM
When did I say that Jill's parents disliked Jill??? :confused:

Yes, Jill's parents disliked Bill but they do not dislike Jill.

Watermelon
12-13-2002, 11:06 PM
Did Jill's parents write what was in the paper?

:moon: :moon2:

Condiment King
12-13-2002, 11:11 PM
Nope.

coolman86
12-13-2002, 11:13 PM
Does jills school have anything to do with the paper.

Mattashell
12-14-2002, 02:25 AM
I am stumped. Was the paper used for anything other than reading?

murmur
12-16-2002, 02:39 AM
Was Bill a friend of Jill's parents? A close one? An acquaintence? A relative? A random opportunist? Does it matter?

Condiment King
12-19-2002, 12:46 PM
Does jills school have anything to do with the paper.
No

I am stumped. Was the paper used for anything other than reading?
This is a tough question to answer. There was a reason why she read it. Reading had another purpose other than just reading. Hope I didn't give too much away! :D

Was Bill a friend of Jill's parents? A close one? An acquaintence? A relative? A random opportunist? Does it matter?
Bill did not know Jill's parents whatsoever.

coolman86
12-19-2002, 08:34 PM
Are jills parents in a coma.

Watermelon
12-19-2002, 08:42 PM
Was the reading something Jill wanted to know for a while?

:moon: :moon2:

Condiment King
12-19-2002, 10:47 PM
Are jills parents in a coma.
No.

Was the reading something Jill wanted to know for a while?
No.

coolman86
12-20-2002, 10:24 PM
Was the article about antybody in jills family.

Condiment King
12-21-2002, 01:10 AM
Was the article about antybody in jills family.
No.

BlueAngelGal
12-21-2002, 01:50 AM
Where the three lines she read a statement of some sort? Were they audiotaped/videotaped?

Perhaps Bill kidnapped Jill, and Jill wanted the paper to see what her parents were saying about her, how they were doing at finding her, etc., and on the front page was a story about her parents, saying "We'll pay the ransom, but we want to know she's okay first, so have her read these three lines and send us a tape"? Then Bill had Jill read the lines, taped it, and planned to send the tape to her parents so they'd give him the ransom money?

Watermelon
12-21-2002, 08:04 AM
Was the news about Jill?

:moon: :moon2:

Condiment King
12-21-2002, 07:39 PM
Was the news about Jill?
No.

Where the three lines she read a statement of some sort?
No.

Were they audiotaped/videotaped?
No, but you are so close.


Perhaps Bill kidnapped Jill
Yes.

and Jill wanted the paper to see what her parents were saying about her, how they were doing at finding her, etc., and on the front page was a story about her parents, saying
No.

"We'll pay the ransom, but we want to know she's okay first, so have her read these three lines
Yes.

and send us a tape"?
No.

Then Bill had Jill read the lines,
Yes.

taped it, and planned to send the tape to her parents
No.

so they'd give him the ransom money?
Yes.


I hope you all could decode that. You all are sooo close!

Watermelon
12-24-2002, 08:41 AM
Did Bill kidnap others before?

:moon: :moon2:

Condiment King
12-24-2002, 06:36 PM
Did Bill kidnap others before?
Nope.

murmur
12-26-2002, 03:04 PM
So what we have is Bill kidnaps Jill, demands a ransom. Somebody demands that she read three lines of a newspaper to be assured she's alive before agreeing to pay the ransom.

I propose that:

Bill is pleased because he's getting paid.
Bill's parents are NOT the ones offering the ransom.
It's the police offering it? If so, are they tapping the line? Does Bill think he's getting paid but he's really getting set up?

Exactly how close are we? Is there something major we're overlooking, or is it just nitpicky details now?

Condiment King
12-26-2002, 08:36 PM
Bill is pleased because he's getting paid.
Yes.

Bill's parents are NOT the ones offering the ransom.
No.

It's the police offering it? If so, are they tapping the line? Does Bill think he's getting paid but he's really getting set up?
All no.

Exactly how close are we? Is there something major we're overlooking, or is it just nitpicky details now?
With that, you all have got it. Basically, Bill kidnapped Jill and demanded a ransom. Jill's parents wanted to know that she was alive so she read the first three lines of a newspaper into the phone to her parents. Jill then threw the paper in the garbage, in disgust.



Care for another? Lateral Thinking Puzzle #2:
A man lay dead in the desert with a straw next to him. How did he die?

EightOh
12-26-2002, 08:57 PM
"Those dadgum furriners got 'im, di'nt they?"

Did he have any enemies?
Was there any water nearby?
Did he try to drink from a cactus, only to have it all go terribly wrong? ;)

Condiment King
12-26-2002, 10:05 PM
"Those dadgum furriners got 'im, di'nt they?"
Um, I guess not.

Did he have any enemies?
No.

Was there any water nearby?
No.

Did he try to drink from a cactus, only to have it all go terribly wrong?
No.

sharpei_nat
12-27-2002, 02:22 AM
were there any animals involved?
people?
other unknown lifeforms?

BlueAngelGal
12-27-2002, 02:41 AM
Was it something other than a drinking straw? Like, say, a matchstick, or some sort of other long, cutable thing (or possibly a drinking straw, if he had scissors) that could be used to "draw straws"?

sharpei_nat
12-27-2002, 03:27 AM
did the straw have anything to do with his death?

Condiment King
12-27-2002, 06:46 PM
were there any animals involved?
No.

people?
Yes!

other unknown lifeforms?
No.

Was it something other than a drinking straw? Like, say, a matchstick, or some sort of other long, cutable thing (or possibly a drinking straw, if he had scissors)
No.

that could be used to "draw straws"?
YES!

did the straw have anything to do with his death?
YES!

murmur
12-27-2002, 06:59 PM
:( I thought we got to take turns!!

Did he draw the short straw?

Was he in a group of lost people?

Did they all have a shot at survival that could involve everyone but ONE member? And they drew lots to determine who got screwed? And of course, that would be him?

If so:
Was it cannibalism?
A ride out of the desert that could only fit so many people?
Do we need to know the exact number of people involved?

In case the above are bad guesses...
Was the cause of death exposure or starvation (i.e., he died from just being in the desert too long)?
Was he killed? And if so, was he taken out to the desert to be shot/stabbed/beaten/whatever? Was he taken there to be buried?

Was this by Las Vegas?
Was this the result of a Russian Roullette type deal?

Okay, that's probably enough for now!

Condiment King
12-27-2002, 10:02 PM
:( I thought we got to take turns!!
You have a puzzle? By all means, share. We could run two at a time, easy.

Did he draw the short straw?
YES!!!!!

Was he in a group of lost people?
YES!!

Did they all have a shot at survival that could involve everyone but ONE member? And they drew lots to determine who got screwed? And of course, that would be him?
YES!

Was it cannibalism?
No.

A ride out of the desert that could only fit so many people?
YES!

Do we need to know the exact number of people involved?
No.

Was the cause of death exposure or starvation (i.e., he died from just being in the desert too long)?
No.

Was he killed? And if so, was he taken out to the desert to be shot/stabbed/beaten/whatever? Was he taken there to be buried?
No.

Was this by Las Vegas? Was this a Russian Roulette type deal?
No.

BlueAngelGal
12-28-2002, 01:28 AM
Where there footprints around him?

Here's my weird idea -- maybe the guy was in a hot air balloon with some people, and the balloon started to sink toward the ground, so they had to lose some weight, but they already dropped all of the sandbags, so they drew straws, and this guy got the short straw, so he had to jump out of the balloon to lighten to load so the rest of them would make it home without crashing in the desert?

Condiment King
12-28-2002, 10:42 PM
Where there footprints around him?
No.


Here's my weird idea -- maybe the guy was in a hot air balloon with some people, and the balloon started to sink toward the ground, so they had to lose some weight, but they already dropped all of the sandbags, so they drew straws, and this guy got the short straw, so he had to jump out of the balloon to lighten to load so the rest of them would make it home without crashing in the desert?
Correct. :) Does anyone else have one or should I ask another? :yawn:

murmur
12-29-2002, 09:04 PM
YOINK. Well, this one's a classic, so if you do know the answer, please don't guess!:wakko:

A man turns off the light then goes to bed. The next morning, he reads about the death and injury of many people and kills himself. Why did he commit suicide?

Alaskanbullworm
12-29-2002, 09:28 PM
Does the light have something to do about the peoples deaths?

Condiment King
12-29-2002, 11:11 PM
I know this one, murmur, so I won't give it away. :)

murmur
12-30-2002, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by Patrick Star
Does the light have something to do about the peoples deaths? Yes.

Watermelon
12-30-2002, 10:04 AM
Was the man related to any of the people that died?

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The Detective
12-30-2002, 11:40 AM
Did the man know any of that people died? Exactly how may people died? Or does it matter how many people died?

murmur
12-30-2002, 05:35 PM
Was the man related to any of the people that died?
No.

Did the man know any of the people died?
Technically, the answer is yes, he knew that people died. If what you meant was "Did he know any of the people that died?" the answer is no. Sorry to nitpick but I want to make sure there's no confusion.

Exactly how many people died?
Yes or no questions, remember? ;)

Or does it matter how many people died?
Not really. As long as you know that there were some.

The Detective
12-30-2002, 06:00 PM
Soory about that. I meant that not the. Man my typing is getting worse. As for the yes or no question, sorry. I forgot.

The Detective
12-30-2002, 09:04 PM
Is the way the people died important?

Alaskanbullworm
12-30-2002, 09:25 PM
Was the light connected to something that was big?

Something like street lights or a power outage?

Condiment King
01-01-2003, 12:14 AM
murmur?

murmur
01-02-2003, 12:15 AM
Is the way the people died important?
Yes.

Was the light connected to something that was big?
Yes.

Something like street lights or a power outage?
That's subject to a lot of interpretation. Can you be more specific?

murmur
01-30-2003, 02:31 PM
Woohoo, now that the fun and games board is back, maybe I can give this thread a friendly bump...

The Detective
01-30-2003, 03:12 PM
Was the light being tuned off directly responsible for the peoples death?

murmur
01-30-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Was the light being tuned off directly responsible for the peoples death? Yes!

Danielle
01-30-2003, 07:13 PM
Were these people traveling?

If so, were they on an airplane?

Alaskanbullworm
01-30-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by murmur
Something like street lights or a power outage?
That's subject to a lot of interpretation. Can you be more specific?

Did it have to do with car crashes because the street lights weren't working?

Did the light getting turned off have to with people in houses?

murmur
02-02-2003, 04:07 PM
Were these people traveling?
Yes.

If so, were they on an airplane? [/B]
No.

Did it have to do with car crashes because the street lights weren't working?
No.

Did the light getting turned off have to with people in houses?
No.

murmur
02-04-2003, 01:09 PM
Since it's been a while since I first started the current question, here's a refresher course:
A man turns off the light then goes to bed. The next morning, he reads about the death and injury of many people and kills himself. Why did he commit suicide?

So far we know:

Positives--
The way the people died is important.
The light was connected to something big.
The light being turned off was directly responsible for the people's deaths.
The people were traveling.

Negatives--
The man was not related to anyone that died.
It doesn't matter exactly how many people died.
The people were not on an airplane.
It does not have to do with car crashes or street lights.
The light getting turned off did not have to do with people in houses.

We also know that Condiment King has heard this one before. ;) I remind everyone that since this is a classic, if you do know it, please abstain from answering just like the sultan of sauce. :D

Danielle
02-04-2003, 06:53 PM
:confused:

{pokes Condiment King} I'll give ya 5 bucks to tell me the answer. :p {j/k}

Um............... :confused: Did this guy own a powerhouse or lighthouse or something?

Mattashell
02-04-2003, 06:54 PM
Even though, I've never heard this one, the answer seems quite obvious to me, so I'll hold back for now. ;)

Cyber E.
02-04-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Danielle
Did this guy own a powerhouse or lighthouse or something?

Curses! I was reading and saw you got it. I was thinking it was a lighthouse because the light would be the tower and the people could be on a boat and die because they didn't see the light.

CK, could you confirm since you have heard it?

Danielle
02-04-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by The Venom
Curses! I was reading and saw you got it. I was thinking it was a lighthouse because the light would be the tower and the people could be on a boat and die because they didn't see the light.


......uh, actually, that was a random guess, so it looks like *you* got it, Venom! :D

The Detective
02-05-2003, 12:29 AM
That sounds right and so obvious once you have the answer.

murmur
02-05-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by The DarkKnight
That sounds right and so obvious once you have the answer. That's exactly why it's a classic. ;) Yes, it was a lighthouse, and his shutting off of the light caused a major disastor for the ship that crashed in the lack of visibility. I'd probably have difficulty living with myself after that too...

Anyway, apparently Venom got the answer, though CK was a little vague on who gets to ask questions...

Cyber E.
02-05-2003, 02:42 PM
Woohoo! I got my first one, here it goes.

Not far from Madrid, there is a large wooden barn. The barn is completely empty except for a dead man hanging from the middle of the central rafter. The rope around his neck is ten feet long and his feet are three feet off the ground. The nearest wall is 20 feet away from the man. It is not possible to climb up the walls or along the rafters. The man hanged himself. How did he do it?

Mattashell
02-05-2003, 05:24 PM
Darn it, I heard this one before!

The Detective
02-05-2003, 05:47 PM
Um, I no the answer will probaly be no but did someone else hepl him?

Cyber E.
02-05-2003, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Um, I no the answer will probaly be no but did someone else hepl him?

Nope

murmur
02-06-2003, 01:45 AM
Is it important that it's near Madrid?

Did he get there from a ceiling window?

Cyber E.
02-06-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by murmur
Is it important that it's near Madrid?

Errr tough one, but I'd go with No.


Originally posted by murmur
Did he get there from a ceiling window?

No

(2000 posts, woohoo!)

murmur
02-07-2003, 04:11 AM
Is it significant (not necessarily important), that it's near Madrid? Could this have happened just outside of Barcelona? What about Berlin? Or Boston?

The Detective
02-08-2003, 12:30 PM
Is the man taller that six feet?

Is the man shorter than six feet?

Is there a ladder anywhere in or around the barn?

Cyber E.
02-08-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by murmur
Is it significant (not necessarily important), that it's near Madrid?

Not really.


Originally posted by murmur
Could this have happened just outside of Barcelona? What about Berlin? Or Boston?

Yes & No.


Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Is the man taller that six feet?

Irrelevant.


Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Is the man shorter than six feet?

Irrelevant.


Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Is there a ladder anywhere in or around the barn?

No.

Since I have kiled the game, here is a clue. Their was a puddle of water under him

The Detective
02-08-2003, 05:11 PM
Stupid question but, had it rained anytime recently?

Drachentöter
02-08-2003, 05:32 PM
Or was there a flood?

The Detective
02-08-2003, 06:38 PM
This is a stupid theory but a theory none the less:
The barn flooded, the man swam up to the top rafter where he tied the rope, then when the water went down he was hung.

Cyber E.
02-08-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by The DarkKnight Stupid question but, had it rained anytime recently?

No.


Originally posted by VortexInfinite
Or was there a flood?

No.


Originally posted by The DarkKnight
This is a stupid theory but a theory none the less:
The barn flooded, the man swam up to the top rafter where he tied the rope, then when the water went down he was hung.

Good theory, but wrong.

-aJb

hippos666
02-08-2003, 06:48 PM
was there a fire recently and fire fighters came and flooded the barn and a rope was floating on top of the water and it got stuck over his head... maybe... just maybe... well it could happen

Rune
02-08-2003, 07:38 PM
Was he originally standing on a big lump of ice? Highly unlikely I know but after desperately wracking my brain it was the best i could do.... :( have no idea

The Landstander
02-08-2003, 08:38 PM
this probably has nothing to do with it, but does the barn have a roof?

The Detective
02-08-2003, 08:45 PM
Does it matter how long the rope is?

murmur
02-10-2003, 03:40 AM
Did he hang himself on purpose (i.e. definite suicide)? If so, is it important to know why? If he didn't, was he killed? Executed? And does it matter why? Or was it an accident?

Alaskanbullworm
02-10-2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by Rune
Was he originally standing on a big lump of ice? Highly unlikely I know but after desperately wracking my brain it was the best i could do.... :( have no idea


I don't see The Venom around, but that is it!

Cyber E.
02-10-2003, 01:59 PM
Thanks Patrick for giving the verify, I was busy the past week. :D

It is your turn, Rune!

-aJb

The Detective
02-19-2003, 04:05 PM
RUNE WHERE ARE YOU!

Rune
02-19-2003, 05:35 PM
I'm lying on the floor in shock :D

Sorry for the delay , I'm actually now in a complete panic because that was just a silly guess after the puddle on the floor clue. I'm not very lateral minded and I don't have a question ready *feels really thick*

Sorry to wimp out but can I defer this time around to whichever one of you guys can step in with a ready question instead?

Mattashell
02-19-2003, 07:36 PM
A dead body is found with 53 bicycles. How did he die?

Drachentöter
02-19-2003, 08:44 PM
Did 53 bicycles run him over?

ThorMX624
02-19-2003, 08:58 PM
Were the 53 bicycles stolen?

The Detective
02-20-2003, 12:01 AM
Does the number of bicycles matter?

FredNash
02-20-2003, 04:53 AM
Heart attack?

Cyber E.
02-20-2003, 03:34 PM
Do the bicycles have anything to do with the way the man died?

-aJb

Mattashell
02-20-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by VortexInfinite
Did 53 bicycles run him over?

no


Originally posted by ThorMX624
Were the 53 bicycles stolen?

no


Originally posted by The DarkKnight
Does the number of bicycles matter?

YES!!!


Originally posted by FredNash
Heart attack?

no


Originally posted by The Venom
Do the bicycles have anything to do with the way the man died?

no

Magwheel
02-20-2003, 09:15 PM
were the bikes real?

Are they images of bikes on something?

This may seem out there, but I have a kooky idea :D

Drachentöter
02-20-2003, 10:15 PM
Did the man have some kind of superstition dealing with the number 53?

Mattashell
02-21-2003, 03:48 AM
were the bikes real?

The way you worded your question makes it hard to answer, but there were definitely 53 bicycles. ;)


Are they images of bikes on something?

YES!!


Did the man have some kind of superstition dealing with the number 53?

no.

BlueAngelGal
02-21-2003, 04:13 AM
Where they, by any chance, Bicycle playing cards? Like maybe a guy was playing poker with his buddies, but they caught him cheating with an ace up his sleeve, so they killed him? That's all I can think of with 53... there are 52 cards in a deck.

Mattashell
02-21-2003, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by BlueAngelGal
Where they, by any chance, Bicycle playing cards? Like maybe a guy was playing poker with his buddies, but they caught him cheating with an ace up his sleeve, so they killed him? That's all I can think of with 53... there are 52 cards in a deck.

BINGO!!! Post the next riddle.

Magwheel
02-21-2003, 09:16 AM
ARGH! I shoulda outed with my guess instead of asking those questions!! Or I shoulda stayed up till 4:49 Atlantic time. ;) :p

But seriously, nice work, BlueAngelGal :D