All anime channel coming soon to the US!

[Matt Hazuda]

Just got this off of Anime on DVD (http://animeondvd.com)
It's been talked about in circles for years now, but according to Steven Lin of the Anime Con Mailing List, it's about to happen. While in attendance at the ADV Films 10th anniversary party this past weekend, John Ledford announced that ADV has just made arrangements to have a 24 hour All anime Cable channel. When contacted, ADV's David Williams indicated that a press release will be forthcoming.Well I guess this pretty much answers the question of how ADV products would be airing on TV. Stay tuned for more info as available.

CC-Sama, we need you!

[Beat]

WHO-HOO!

[Ikwig]

What Beatdigga said! :D

You know how when a new channel comes to cable and they put out all those ads that say stuff like "call your cable company and ask for it by name"? Well, I might actually call my cable company and BEG for that channel!

[pabcool]

YEAH! OMIGOD, OMIGOD OMIGOD! PARTEYYYYY! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FDSOKDOIGPOIH(*J)HOIM!@! WOOHOO! JOY!

[Beat]

Cablevision is going to get a BIG piece of my mind.

[RZetlin]

Originally posted by Jeff Harris
As long as there is disagreement and dissent among the big anime distributors, fundamentalist idiots that believe that anime is corrupting the nation's youth, otakus that can't accept the distribution of English-dubbed anime in an edited form on American cable television, the country remains closed-minded about anime on television and in real theaters, and anime continues to have a small fanbase, there will never, EVER be an all-anime network in existance. There isn't even one in Japan where anime is king (Animax has a couple of American programming and CN Japan's Toonami is all-American), so get over it.

And the moment it does, I'm going to eat my hat :D



Would you like mustard and ketchup on your hat Jeff Harris! :D

[Matt Hazuda]

Originally posted by RZetlin
Would you like mustard and ketchup on your hat Jeff Harris! :D I'm not normally one to rag on Jeff, but how does the the crow taste? :D :p

I'm sure he's excited about this as the rest of us, so I hope he doesn't mind my jesting :cool:


Now where is Sama-I-Ama? IUt would be nice to have TZ scoop AOD on a piece of ADV info for once conisdering we have an employee of theirs who works for the site and all :p

[Elven Moon]

You're kidding, right? Are you kidding?


You're not?

Wheeeeee~ I only hope this will be available on my digital cable :D

[StrangerAtaru]

Hope this is true, hope this is true, hope this is true.......

But then again, if it is just ADV, it could get stale real quick.

[Beat]

Well, at least I know wher EVA's ending up.

[Sir Gatts]

This is not good. How am I supposed to sleep now? :D

[Captin "Hank" Murphy]

*Sings "Happy Happy, Joy Joy" song through the rest of the day.*

I hope Trigun will be in their prime-time slot. :D

[Lunacat]

Originally posted by Sir Gatts
This is not good. How am I supposed to sleep now? :D

LOL, no kidding! I might just have to save up for my very own TiVo and record nothing but the programs that come on this channel. It'll be very hard to pick and choose what to watch (which is the only reason I was ever against an anime channel at all). Hooray! I really hope this is true, but I'm not going to get too excited yet.

[Parallax]

If I don't get this channel I have to build a Gundam and storm the Adelphia Cable offices or maybe just beg them very very very very very very very very nicely. :D

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by Lunacat
LOL, no kidding! I might just have to save up for my very own TiVo and record nothing but the programs that come on this channel.

Or 30 hours worth of 'em. That's the max amount of programming TiVo can keep at one time.

[Killtacular]

This station won't last long.

I still have yet to be convinced that there's a huge enough audience of TV-watching anime fans IN GENERAL to support an all-anime network, LET ALONE ONES WITH DIGITAL CABLE.

If this survives, good for them. But I just don't see it doing that. :/

[Kuja's Light]

This is awesome news. Though, i don't think i'l be able too see the channel for awhile. I'm still glad it will finally be coming.

[Jeff Harris]

Originally posted by RZetlin
Would you like mustard and ketchup on your hat Jeff Harris! :D Nah, that's okay. I'll eat it plain. Mmmm. . . tastes like chicken (or is that crow?) :D

Sounds like a celebration's in order, because someone actually grew a set of cajones to actually make an anime channel, and it's about time too. Still kind of wondering who else is behind this endeavor.

[Steve Jester]

(A la "Monty Python and the Holy Grail") And there was much rejoicing!

(normal)

What I needed!

[pabcool]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
This station won't last long.

I still have yet to be convinced that there's a huge enough audience of TV-watching anime fans IN GENERAL to support an all-anime network, LET ALONE ONES WITH DIGITAL CABLE.

If this survives, good for them. But I just don't see it doing that. :/

Hey, If Comcast's G4 And The Home Shopping Network Have Made It For This Long, So Can ADV's Anime Channel.

[RZetlin]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
This station won't last long.

I still have yet to be convinced that there's a huge enough audience of TV-watching anime fans IN GENERAL to support an all-anime network, LET ALONE ONES WITH DIGITAL CABLE.

If this survives, good for them. But I just don't see it doing that. :/

If there's an audience to support an infomercial channel, a book channel, and a mediation channel, then there will be enough support for an anime channel.

[gtracer72]

This sounds great. I just hope Comcast will carry it.

[SpotLane]

I'm afraid this new anime channel might have butched anime like the ones currently shown on TV. Does anyone know if they will air anime uncensored?

[Killtacular]

There's no guarantee that G4 will always be around, but even so, there's more general gamers in America than anime fans. It helps that G4 already has 9 million subscribers.

[Cyporiean]

Originally posted by SpotLane
I'm afraid this new anime channel might have butched anime like the ones currently shown on TV. Does anyone know if they will air anime uncensored?

This is ADV we're talking about..

the only ones worst then them about Editing Anime is Gainax..

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Sweet merciful bippy! A 24-hour anime channel? Count me in. I guess I gotta go buy a TiVo recorder soon, not to mention calling Comcast and telling them to add it to my lineup.

[Obi]

I wish I had digital cable...

[Matsuo]

This sounds great. I just hope Comcast will carry it.

*note to self. Call Comcast and tell them I'm sorry for verbally abusing their employe's over the cable internet connection. also note, get digital cable.* :p

Premuim channel means premium babes!! I bet Ranma 1/2 and NGE will be on the programing list.

[Cyporiean]

Originally posted by Matsuo
*note to self. Call Comcast and tell them I'm sorry for verbally abusing their employe's over the cable internet connection. also note, get digital cable.* :p

Premuim channel means premium babes!! I bet Ranma 1/2 and NGE will be on the programing list.

Eva is a definite..

Ranma on the other hand..


It all depends on ADV working with the others.. and them not being stingy..

[gtracer72]

Originally posted by Matsuo
*note to self. Call Comcast and tell them I'm sorry for verbally abusing their employe's over the cable internet connection. also note, get digital cable.* :p




Shoot, I guess I should do that too.

[William C. Maune]

[indent]Eh, I'd rather have a channel that showed great cartoons regardless of their country of origin.

[Mynd Hed]

Eh, I'd rather have a channel that showed great cartoons regardless of their country of origin.

It's called Cartoon Network, and they're doing about as well as can be expected given that they're run by AOL Time Warner. (-:


This station won't last long.

I still have yet to be convinced that there's a huge enough audience of TV-watching anime fans IN GENERAL to support an all-anime network, LET ALONE ONES WITH DIGITAL CABLE.

If this survives, good for them. But I just don't see it doing that. :/

Quiet, naysayer. I seem to recall a lot of people saying that Cowboy Bebop would never get shown on American television, that there would never be an all-anime network at ALL, regardless of how long it survives, that if man were meant to fly he'd have been born with wings....

Let the people have their moment of triumphant optimism. Don't sully it with your saying of nay.

[Djm912]

This just in from CNN. . . Hell has just frozen over.

[JLU Dude]

Originally posted by MDawg957
Just got this off of Anime on DVD (http://animeondvd.com)Well I guess this pretty much answers the question of how ADV products would be airing on TV. Stay tuned for more info as available.

CC-Sama, we need you!

Yes! YES, YES, YES, YES, YES!!! Oh, happy day. No longer relying solely on CN or the Action Channel for my anime hit. :D:D:D:D

[Galaxia]

Originally posted by Beatdigga
Cablevision is going to get a BIG piece of my mind.

Cablevision stinks - that's why I switched to DirecTV!
*cough*YES Network*cough*


AN ANIME CHANNEL?!? REALLY?!?!????????? NOOOOO WAY! OMGWTH!!!1 THAT'S AWESOME!

[StrangerAtaru]

I want this channel myself, but I already know Comcast's sort of logic. This is the same company who chose to get rid of International Channel back in 1997/8 and replace it with TV Land! (nothing wrong with it, but couldn't have they done it elsewhere? I wanted my Sunday nights with Japanese dramas and DBZ) And then they push their own G4 on our system, yet still don't have something as rudimentary as FX or TCM. Hope to get it, but doubt it for a long time.

[Spookmonkey]

I just hope that they won't make it pure "anime". Some variety of styles would be nice. Just make it all animated with an emphesis on anime and it will be all good.

[J.C.]

So is this going to be all ADV owned series/movies? If so, then I can see this working for awhile, but getting old after about a year, if that. Either way, I'm glad to see another cartoon (yes, they're cartoons. deal with it :p) channel could/will be coming to T.V.

[joshualane]

This is great news and I can't wait to get the Press Release to check out all the details.

I have a feeling that at first, the channel will probably be 99% ADV stuff, but over time, other anime companies will jump on board...if they haven't already. I also suspect this will be a more "mature" channel so edits will probably be minimal...although, that wouldl certainly depend on the series.

[Beat]

Originally posted by SpikeJet143
Cablevision stinks - that's why I switched to DirecTV!
*cough*YES Network*cough*


AN ANIME CHANNEL?!? REALLY?!?!????????? NOOOOO WAY! OMGWTH!!!1 THAT'S AWESOME!


Oh yeah.

Go Nets!!! And Yankess in 2003!!!

[Zero Angel]

this is definatly awsome news. of coarse i will have to wait and see if this is in fact going to go through.

estentially...ill believe it when i see it. sure there has been a press release for this and all that jazz...but im slightly concerned.

ADV is the forerunner for this. thats great...i think that they have had the biggest set out of almost all the anime distribution companies, except maybe CPM, but this will definatly put them up there on the ranks of trying something that cant be done.

if it is an all ADV station though...we may see some major issues forming after about a year of this station being on. on top of that there are certain things that, well, need other portions of the series to really get an audience for it. could you imagine Kenshin (done by Media Blasters) on tv? that would be god awsome, then they could also throw on there the Samurai X OAV and movie that was done by ADV. the same thing goes for Slayers.

then of coarse we actually see blocks of anime where they should be in the line-up of stuff. you could have stuff like Sailor Moon, Meda-bots, Monster Rancher on early in the day...hell, considering that ADV does have rights to both Shadow Raiders and Reboot you could conceivably have an hour block with those two shows on it...of coarse Shadow Raiders is still running on Action so...who knows. and then of coarse you have some of those great ADV titles on tv now, things like Nadesco, Eva, Excel, Gasaraki...jeez...you really could have a variety line up throughout the entire day.

but as i have said before...i will believe it when i see it on my tv.

[RZetlin]

Don't forget that ADV has the distribution rights to live action shows like Farscape (http://www.advfilms.com/catalog/index.asp?c=series&f=&s=1&st=37), Andromeda (http://www.advfilms.com/catalog/index.asp?c=series&f=&s=1&st=124) and Cheaters (http://www.advfilms.com/catalog/index.asp?c=series&f=&s=1&st=19) and other miscellanous shows.

In theory ADV could air these non-anime shows on the channel to balance out the anime content.

[ohmrbill]

I hope they don't only show dubs. Most of ADV's dubs are god-awful.

[Zero Angel]

Oh Mr Bill...of coarse they are going to be dubbed. this is an american, not international, company. they are going to put on these shows in the english dubs that have been done.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Zero Angel
Oh Mr Bill...of coarse they are going to be dubbed. this is an american, not international, company. they are going to put on these shows in the english dubs that have been done. How do you know that? If it was anyone but ADV, I'd agree, but I'm expecting we'll get plenty of subs in there.

[jeffrey 228]

Well about time they got to somthing, but I bet it will also be on as a paid channel because the anime will be uncut, I also hope they will be showing more that will be from Bandai or Pioneer Animation that will be showing this anime besides ADV.

[Sandro]

I too have my skepticism about this whole thing. If this works, more power to ADV or whomever would be responsible. But, there's obviously going to be some problems/obstacles.

[Spookmonkey]

Originally posted by ohmrbill
I hope they don't only show dubs. Most of ADV's dubs are god-awful.

... ok fine. how about no anime channel at all for you? be happy it's a possibility at all.

[jeffrey 228]

Maybe they should have it like this, dubs during the day and subs during at night, how about this idea? :)

[ohmrbill]

... ok fine. how about no anime channel at all for you? be happy it's a possibility at all.

That's a bit harsh, don't you think?

[jeffrey 228]

Well I do agree to that, because half of this boards users are anime fans and I think the channel should stay. :yakko:

[Spookmonkey]

Originally posted by ohmrbill
That's a bit harsh, don't you think?

not one bit. would you rather have the dubs or no channel? because you have the no channel now and your not happy. So when ADV is contimplating giving you a channel you have dreamed about you basicly start complaining and making demands.

[ohmrbill]

Geez, calm down! All I said was hope they show subbed anime, too! What they hell is wrong with that?!

[Spookmonkey]

Originally posted by ohmrbill
Geez, calm down! All I said was hope they show subbed anime, too! What they hell is wrong with that?!

All I'm saying is be happy with whatever you are given. At least for a while.

[EroSennin]

great news now just need Dish Network or Direct tv to pick it up. Havent decided if im switching to direct tv yet

[ohmrbill]

All I'm saying is be happy with whatever you are given. At least for a while.

And who says I'm not happy? I sure didn't, because I AM. I'm just adding my 2 cents on what I think (for me) would make it the ideal anime channel.

[God_of_Death]

Doesn't Direct TV have some crappy drawback like it can only be seen on one TV only or that the only same channel can be seen on all TVs??

[Galaxia]

Originally posted by God_of_Death
Doesn't Direct TV have some crappy drawback like it can only be seen on one TV only or that the only same channel can be seen on all TVs??

Not if you have multiple DirecTV boxes ;)

[jeffrey 228]

And Dish network does the same thing too, but I just hope cable was not that expensive up here.

[JustJack]

I can just imagine it now...Daytime dubs...a special "Sub-hour", some Quality anime movies...and..late night goodies. *sigh*

http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/wiggle.gif

Thank God I'm not dreaming this time! :eek: :D

http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/fruit.gif

[Dalamar13]

This is the best news I've heard all year. I don't care if it's pay or not I will have it.

I don't know about subs all night. I think they should have both, but not one all the time. That would really split the viewing audience in half. Alot of people don't like subs.


YAY!! Insight had better put this on my Digital Cable. I will vulcan cannon the hell out of their offices if the don't. :D

[Spookmonkey]

Originally posted by God_of_Death
Doesn't Direct TV have some crappy drawback like it can only be seen on one TV only or that the only same channel can be seen on all TVs??

that's satellite in general. you want a different channel on a different tv? get a second dish.

[VinceA]

I've made this observation in at least two other conversations about this topic. Programs can be broadcast subbed & dubbed simultaneously. There's something called SAP (second audio program) that can be used from another audio track. So along with close captions (where you can have more than one set of those also) you can have Japanese audio, faithful English subtitles, English audio and a dubtitles. All in one program...

I've watched the Simpsons in Spanish on regular television just because it's possible (I had to check the SAP feature on my TV somehow).

So, I'm not saying this is what ADV is planning but that it's possible...

EDIT: Added an important 'not' in the last sentence :)

[Artemis]

Originally posted by JustJack
I can just imagine it now...Daytime dubs...a special "Sub-hour", some Quality anime movies...and..late night goodies. *sigh*



Yeah, they can show any edited kiddy-fare they have in the morning, unedited mature dubbed anime in the afternoon and evening, subtitled viewings at evening and night, special anime movie presentations on the weekends and of course...."late night goodies" late at night, if ya'll catch my drift. http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/devil.gif It'd be a premium channel after all! XD

[JohnCrichton]

BUENO!!!!!

First Blackbelt TV and now this.

I shall keep my fingers crossed that they don't suck and that ADV Films earns a big whoppin' ton of cash money outta this so they can put Farscape back on the air and laugh at tha defunct channel Sci-Fi.

:p

[Galaxia]

Originally posted by Spookmonkey
that's satellite in general. you want a different channel on a different tv? get a second dish.

I have 4 DirecTV boxes all hooked up to one satellite (because the maximum is 4 boxes) on 4 different TVs (my room, the den, the kitchen, and my sister's room.). If my sister is watching hockey or Law & Order in the den, I can watch Saturday Night Live or Cowboy Bebop in my room.

If you had 1 box hooked up to 2 TVs, then you'd have to watch the same channel.

[Funkatron]

correct..I should know: I sell satelites, among other things....

and Ibelieve you can get up to 8, with another multiswitch...with direct tv, anywho

dang, this warrants me actually buying one my own direwct tv systems!!

[joshualane]

Here's the Press Release:



ADV FILMS ANNOUNCES LAUNCH OF "THE ANIME NETWORK"(tm) ON DIGITAL CABLE

HOUSTON, November 6, 2002 - ADV Films today announced publicly the creation of The Anime Network(tm), the first television channel in North America dedicated to anime (Japanese animation) and anime-related content. The Anime Network(tm) targets the nation's estimated 85 million cable television subscribers, and seeks to capitalize on cable's increasing dominance in the world of at-home entertainment.

Initially announced in June, 2002 at ADV Films' 10th Anniversary party in Tokyo, and announced in the U.S. at ADV's November 2 invitation-only 10th Anniversary party in Houston, the creation of The Anime Network(tm) has the industry abuzz with excitement and speculation.

"This has been in the works for some time," said ADV Films President, Founder and CEO John Ledford. "Until now, the market and the culture haven't been ready for it. But today ever-increasing numbers of Americans are becoming familiar with anime and its distinctive aesthetic; they're curious about anime, they're hungry for it, and The Anime Network(tm) is going to deliver it right to their televisions."

Competitive Advantage
While existing cable outlets have enjoyed strong ratings with limited blocks of anime and anime-inspired animated programming, The Anime Network(tm) will make fine anime programming available to viewers 24 hours a day.

"The Anime Network(tm) is the next logical step," said Ledford. "The television outlets that currently carry anime aren't meeting the potential demand; they offer very limited selections of titles, and only during very restricted hours. The Anime Network(tm) will change all of that, and we're excited to be leading the revolution."

Content
The Anime Network(tm) model is structured around four categorized content areas: Action Zone, Sci-Fi, Comedy Incorrect, and Horror/Martial Arts. These categories are designed to include virtually the entire spectrum of quality anime, while contextualizing content for new viewers unfamiliar with specific titles.

Coming Up
Coming soon, releases detailing geographic/service provider availability of The Anime Network,(tm) along with information about whom viewers can call regarding local availability; also, a sneak preview of programming that will be available in The Anime Network(tm)'s first months.


Thank god I have digital cable and I can't wait to see what the lineup will be.

[Matt Hazuda]

Well I guess I'll be picking up digital cable sooner than I thought now(I just hope Cox picks up this channel). I can't wait for more info. :D

[Ikwig]

Yay - an actual press release makes it all seem so much more real! :p

But no mention on what kind of channel it will be (basic cable-type or HBO/STARZ/ENCORE-Specialties-type). Personally, I'd rather pay a bit extra and have no editting and no commercials!

Our house already has digital cable (believe it or not, that was the only way to get Cartoon Network! :rolleyes: ), but it is Comcast, so heaven only knows when, if ever, the Anime Network will actually be picked up.

[KingKoopa]

We don't even have any way to get Boomerang here, so I doubt we'll be getting this, but it's still good to know that it exists.

[Morac]

Originally posted by Spookmonkey
that's satellite in general. you want a different channel on a different tv? get a second dish. Digital cable has the same limitations. If you want to watch 2 diferent digital channels on 2 TVs you'll need 2 converter boxes.

I have Comcast and I doubt they'll get this channel since they don't seem to add channels unless they partially own it (G4, CN8, ect). They don't have Boomerang or Nick Toons because they already have CN and Toon Disney, so I doubt they'll put another channel that they'd probably consider a "Toon" channel even though its not.

[Galaxia]

It better be available on satellite TV too...

[ohmrbill]

And how much are the extra boxes for Satellite? If I have to buy an extra 3 boxes to supply all 4 rooms, it may be too expensive (whereas with cable, it can be split for free).

[Galaxia]

ohmrbill - It depends on which places you go to have special offers for box installation.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Morac
Digital cable has the same limitations. If you want to watch 2 diferent digital channels on 2 TVs you'll need 2 converter boxes.

I have Comcast and I doubt they'll get this channel since they don't seem to add channels unless they partially own it (G4, CN8, ect). They don't have Boomerang or Nick Toons because they already have CN and Toon Disney, so I doubt they'll put another channel that they'd probably consider a "Toon" channel even though its not. You need the converter boxes for Satellite as well. You just plain can only watch one channel with Satellite, unless you buy another expensive dish. With Digital Cable, you only need to rent another box for 5 bucks a month for each TV.

[Andrew]

To those who've mentioned Evangelion:

If NGE is a "definite" for this channel, and the channel "has been in the works for quite some time" (according to ADV), then answer me this -- why in the world would ADV have been trying to sell NGE to other broadcasters at MIPCOM (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=2665) just last month?

Same goes for Rahxephon, Noir, and BGC2040.

[Beat]

If Cabelvision can put on TechTV on their digital, then they can put this on.

[zimbach]

Originally posted by Andrew
To those who've mentioned Evangelion:

If NGE is a "definite" for this channel, and the channel "has been in the works for quite some time" (according to ADV), then answer me this -- why in the world would ADV have been trying to sell NGE to other broadcasters at MIPCOM (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=2665) just last month?

Same goes for Rahxephon, Noir, and BGC2040. A key word there is "trying". Also, they may have been selling non-exclusive or market-area only rights.

An example of market-area rights: Enterprise is broadcast on the UPN network, but it is also syndicated to stations in broadcast market areas where a UPN affilliate is not present. Same thing with Disney's Weekday animation package (formerly "1 Too").

If ADV had, say, licensed one of their shows to UPN, they could do the same to fill broadcast blind spots.

Also, it wouldn't be the first time a syndicated program was picked up by a cable network, or vice-versa, if that had happened.

[Nik Jam]

Hopefully this means Robotech and Voltron O_O

[Andrew]

Originally posted by zimbach
A key word there is "trying". Also, they may have been selling non-exclusive or market-area only rights.

Fair enough. (Of course, there are going to be a LOT of markets where this channel won't be available.)

Anyways, if nothing else, it means that just because they have their own channel now, all ADV titles aren't going to be automatically relegated to it.

Besides, consider how little money you would make airing a show on your own (to a very limited market), as opposed to selling the show to another channel with a far greater market share (which means a much larger increase in home video sales). I don't think we can necessarily count out ADV shows on other stations. Less likely, perhaps, but certainly not impossible (especially when they've been openly trying to sell many of their new shows).

[RZetlin]

First Gundam in America
Then Cowboy Bebop on American television
Now an anime channel!

Looks like hell has frozen over again folks! :)

I mean ADV brings Newtype, then ADV brings an anime channel!

ADV is starting become its own little empire!

[Venom234]

Thats great now all that will have to be done is to get enough providers to carry it and convince people to add on the their already humoungous bills.

[Sir Gatts]

Coming Up
Coming soon, releases detailing geographic/service provider availability of The Anime Network,(tm) along with information about whom viewers can call regarding local availability; also, a sneak preview of programming that will be available in The Anime Network(tm)'s first months.
Now would be a good time for me to ask Santa for Digital Cable this year. :)

[RZetlin]

Originally posted by Sir Gatts
Now would be a good time for me to ask Santa for Digital Cable this year. :)


Just in time for Christmas! :D

I guess Christmas came early.

[jeffrey 228]

Well I just hope the cable service does not up charge the cable and stuff.

[RZetlin]

Take a look here (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=2786).

What do you think of The Anime Network Official Logo?

[CC-sama]

Originally posted by MDawg957
It's been talked about in circles for years now, but according to Steven Lin of the Anime Con Mailing List, it's about to happen. While in attendance at the ADV Films 10th anniversary party this past weekend, John Ledford announced that ADV has just made arrangements to have a 24 hour All anime Cable channel. When contacted, ADV's David Williams indicated that a press release will be forthcoming.

I was fortunate enough to be in attendance at that party when Mr. Ledford made his announcement during his keynote speech. The place erupted in cheers when he announced the Anime Network. I had heard about it the night before, so this is indeed great news for anime fans.

From what went out in the Press Release, and what my boss, Ken, said in the link RZetlin just posted, I can't shead any more details on the network's plans. Though I think you'll be plesantly surprised with what we have in store for the anime channel. ;)

[Trigger]

You guys didn't believe me did you?

Look here. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=473878#post473878)

[RZetlin]

Originally posted by CC-sama
I was fortunate enough to be in attendance at that party when Mr. Ledford made his announcement during his keynote speech. The place erupted in cheers when he announced the Anime Network. I had heard about it the night before, so this is indeed great news for anime fans.

From what went out in the Press Release, and what my boss, Ken, said in the link RZetlin just posted, I can't shead any more details on the network's plans. Though I think you'll be plesantly surprised with what we have in store for the anime channel. ;)


I just hope we won't get anime TV shows that are already shown on mainstream TV stations.

Meaning I don't want to see the Anime Network airing Pokemon four times a day or Yu-gi-oh airing five times a day.

I want to see uncut anime TV shows that hasn't aired on mainstream TV stations yet. (Eg. Evangelion, Bubblegum Crisis 2040, Gunsmith Cats, etc.)

[jeffrey 228]

I think the first logo looks pretty nice.

[Galaxia]

The logo looks very.....retro. 1950s-style.

[jeffrey 228]

Kina almost reminds me of Boomerang some what.

[Kaiser0120]

I think people should try and make their own logo for The Anime Channel. I'll be working on mine. ^^

[Gary L Thompson]

Originally posted by joshualane
Here's the Press Release:

Content

The Anime Network(tm) model is structured around four categorized content areas: Action Zone, Sci-Fi, Comedy Incorrect, and Horror/Martial Arts. These categories are designed to include virtually the entire spectrum of quality anime, while contextualizing content for new viewers unfamiliar with specific titles.

Thank god I have digital cable and I can't wait to see what the lineup will be.

Personally, I think that would be a massive blunder on ADV's part, to simply show the same anime everybody else is already showing. That's fine if you're just doing video catalogs (for the most part, they have been scanty in their on-air programming), but a television channel requires a wider audience. The great strength of anime that it has never been really allowed to show in this country is its sheer variety. I'm dead convinced that showing neglected anime categories like magical girl, romance, sports, literary adaptations, bio/true story would expand the anime audience tremendously beyond what it is now--and with 24 hours, you finally have room to do it! To try to survive on nothing more than anime's current audience would be a risky (and unnecessary, I feel) gamble.

Couple other thoughts:

I wonder how ADV's top competitors, the Bandai/Pioneer/Viz-Williams Street alliance are reacting to this news? If I were in their shoes, I would be frantically burning the lines to AOL/Time-Warner's top management to get some sort of commitment from them, if not to do some proactive counterprogramming, to at least agree not actively undercut Toonami and Adult Swim competitively. I would also be seriously considering, if not dumping T-W entirely, at least finding other media outlets to place my anime at and shore up my competitive position.

I'm sure that you're well aware of Newtype recently debuting with an English edition (which is reportedly selling like hotcakes). However, Newtype was giving away a preview issue in return for the customer agreeing to fill out a survey. One of the questions they asked was whether their prospective subscriber would watch an anime channel! In retrospect, was that just coincidence, or could they have been collaborating with ADV on this?

[Sir Gatts]

Originally posted by RZetlin
Take a look here (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=2786).

What do you think of The Anime Network Official Logo?
It sux, but that's just my opinion. :)

I think people should try and make their own logo for The Anime Channel.
I might try that.

[BlackCat]

I'm just happy that the channel is actually happening and on digital cable. :) As long as the network shows a great variety of quality shows, then I'll be happy, regardless of the show's previous origin. Also according to the press release, it sounds like they aren't restricting themselves to just anime, since it did say anime-related content too. I can't wait for the network to get on it's feet and reach a wider audience, hopefully reaching regular cable if it's successful enough.

The working logo is interesting, but I would prefer something different. I wouldn't mind seeing some people show their logos. ;)

[Kaiser0120]

http://kaiser0120.tripod.com

You can see my logo if you stroll down a little.

[Sheamon]

Well, very happy to hear it. I've never been a big fan of ADV's, but looks like I will be now :p I'm quite surprised, being one of many who said we'd never get one.

Of course I just hope you guys don't get too worked up about this. It will probably never be the hardcore anime fan's dream -- they're not gonna go air everything/a majority of thing subbed, if at all, there's gonna be TONS of repeats (you'll wish they only had as many as Toonami/ASA after a while... :p) and it will be no surprise to me if there ends up being a lot less than 24 hours of anime a day. And of course plenty out there probably won't have the channel available to them, I hope I'm not one of them. :D

However, in the end, if this does somehow work out, it is something to be very happy about. Robotech can return to TV. Evangelion, which I've said for a while now will eventually air on TV probably will, not to mention plenty of other material ADV has in their stock, like Excel Saga, Nadesico, Gasaraki and Rahxephon.

Adult Swim expanding to weekdays, Char's Counterattack airing in December, Mitt Romney winning as governer here in good ol' Massachusetts, and now an anime channel. The good news keeps rolling in :D

[Kaiser0120]

Has digital cable. Is in luck. Fear him, AND his neko.

...

Fear the Neko more, though. Really.

But about my thoughts on this...

ADV... do they have enough shows to make 24 hours worth? I mean, for God's sake, that's 48 shows. They'd have to repeat something. If they joing with Bandai and/or Pioneer, though... It could be HUGE.

That's asking too much though... Damnit...

[Andy Mancini]

That's cool. I wonder if they'll attempt to show the "Excel Saga" in their "Comedy Incorrect" section...

Someone here mentioned the crap, I mean the parade of human decay, I mean the "reality" show "Cheaters". If I was ADV, I wouldn't mention to anyone that I own the rights to that. That show makes "golden age Jerry Springer" (late 90's) look classy.

[Zero Angel]

what i think is going to happen, at least in the context of what is happening where with programming, you have quite a few distribution companies that have had their rights tied up in a multitude of different things, people like Software Sculptures with Slayers and of coarse Sunrises dealing with FOX and Escaflowne (a Bandai property). the thing of it is is that there are quite a few companies out there that dont have anyone paying attention to what they have. look at Right Stuf, they have quite a nice little catelogue going for their own produced material now including Irresponsible Captain Tylor and Boogiepop Phantom. both of which have had, as near as i can tell, no attention paid to them on the level of tv.

then you have the rest of CPM, MANGA, US Manga Corp, so on. how many of them would kill to put things on like Iria or Giant Robo or Utena on tv in a place that would market the material well.

[JustJack]

Huh...if they really do get Eva on this channel...well.....let me just say, to all of you who thought I was crazy for never seeing Eva, just waiting for it to hit TV some day....screw you. HAHA! I win. :D Edited or not, I dont give a damn!

And when I read Gunsmith Cats I nearly jumped for joy...that's one of my favorites, and the first OVA I saw in full. It's a dream come true.

I've got Comcast Digital Cable...chances are I'll still need to call in for it. Either way...even if I have to personally put my money into it just so my parents will give the O.K to put it on our cable network...I'm getting this channel. Without a doubt. :cool:

[wrenchien]

heck , if tci gets it, it will make me a lot happier.

i only regret it took them so long to get comedy central...

[Dalamar13]

It WILL be very interesting to see how Williams Street handles this news. Hopefully Bandai/Viz/Funi/Pioneer and all the rst of them jump on board this channel. I doubt ADV would restrict the channel to their shows only. I mean HBO doesn't show just Columbia/Tri-Star picturse do they?


BTW: Kaiser, I like your logo better.

[Kaiser0120]

Thanks, Dalamar13!

[jeffrey 228]

I think I like the other logo better.

[Matt Hazuda]

Anime News Network (http://animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=2786) has posted a little more info on the Anime Network along with the logo, which has already been mentioned in this thread
http://home.att.net/~mdawg957/AnimeNetwork.jpg

We spoke with ADV Films marketing director Ken Wiatrik today to get answers about the Anime Network, and while the company is being pretty tight lipped, we did get a few details.

While previous reports have been that the channel would probably be a pay channel and not basic cable, Wiatrik's feeling were different, "I don't know, but I would hope it would be basic cable. The purpose of this channel will be to expose people to programs and genres that they have not already been exposed to in the past."

What about the programming? Well, ADV's press release merely states "The Anime Network(tm) model is structured around four categorized content areas: Action Zone, Sci-Fi, Comedy Incorrect, and Horror/Martial Arts. These categories are designed to include virtually the entire spectrum of quality anime, while contextualizing content for new viewers unfamiliar with specific titles."

While Wiatrik wouldn't talk about non-ADV shows he did say that not all ADV shows would appear on the Anime Network, but they are looking at airing the following shows: Gunsmith Cats, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Getter Robo, Gasaraki and RahXephon. In fact, RahXephon will probably air on the Anime Network before it is released on DVD. "We will be premiering programs that have no shown in the past. RahXephon will be hopefully premiered on the Anime Network."

And yes, the above logo is the current official working logo for the Anime Network.The news on this new channel gets better and better every day. I can't wait to see some of these shows for the first time, and maybe I'll actually watch the dubbed version of Eva :p(I wonder if they make a deal with the devil and air the Eva movies that Manga (http://abesempai.netfirms.com/manga/) owns)

I must continue to hope and pray that Cox Communciations picks this channel up, and then, I must figure out a way to afford digital cable

[StrangerAtaru]

That is what I have been saying the whole time. I love the idea of an anime channel, but if it is just ADV, then be prepared for a ton of reruns.

Besides, I have had Comcast Digital Cable since 1999, and while we have a few cool channels (yeah, BBC America), we don't have as many as satellite does.

[jgully]

i hope those idiots at time warner pick up the channel they've already
denied me G4

[Lachesis]

Not going to be able to fill 24 hours with only those shows. Doesn't ADV have Nadia and BGC?

I'm really hoping they run subs in the early AM. It'll cut the necessary airtime to fill in half, and there are a whole legion of VCR-equipped freaks ready for them, just like in Japan.

[Matt Hazuda]

Originally posted by Lachesis
Not going to be able to fill 24 hours with only those shows. Doesn't ADV have Nadia and BGC?

I'm really hoping they run subs in the early AM. It'll cut the necessary airtime to fill in half, and there are a whole legion of VCR-equipped freaks ready for them, just like in Japan. They have Nadia, but they only have BGC 2040, not BGC. AnimEigo (http://www.animeigo.com/) owns both Bubblegum Crisis (http://www.animeigo.com/Products/CRISIS.t) and Bubblegum Crash (http://www.animeigo.com/Products/CRASH.t)

[jkoolpe]

This is great news!

My reasons are probably different than most here at the forum, though...I'd love to see this channel in the hopes that CN would transfer all of its anime shows (especially Pokemon) to this station exclusively so those of us (like myself) who don't care for anime don't have to be subjected to it.

I mean no denegration to those of you that like this stuff, but I've been wishing for an anime-free cartoon channel for a long time as I just do not see its appeal. I didn't mind it as much when it was only on CN in limited amounts, but lately, it seems to be taking over. But I can't blaim CN as I know it gets good ratings...it's just not my cup of tea I guess (although I'm sorry but I must say that Pokemon is simply awful...that South Park episode from a couple of years back that made fun of Pokemon was hysterical and dead on).

This new channel could give us the best of both worlds...anime for everyone who enjoys it, and no anime for people like myself:).

I know that since CN is owned by WB, this is not likely to happen, but I can still hope...

Or a second, all-classic toon CN network could be launched, too...that would also work for me:)...

Again, don't mean to upset anyone...just MHO...

Jon

[joshualane]

Originally posted by jkoolpe
I mean no denegration to those of you that like this stuff, but I've been wishing for an anime-free cartoon channel for a long time as I just do not see its appeal.


We already have those, they're called ToonDisney & NickToons TV.



Or a second, all-classic toon CN network could be launched, too...that would also work for me:)...

Again, already here in the form of CN's Boomerang.

[Kaiser0120]

Bandai and/or Pioneer better drag their arses into this. I sweartagod...

[Beat]

They will. All shall declare war on the CN! And Toonami will be smythed by the wrath of otaku!

[Dalamar13]

Originally posted by Kaiser0120
Bandai and/or Pioneer better drag their arses into this. I sweartagod...

Ditto, they had all better get involved with it.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

ok, i have time warner basic.. and what pisses me off is that they are so stupid. Ok i have basic and i know i dont get lots of channels but we have lots of very small town surrounding us and they get lots more cahnnels than we do. What are they thinking? why dont they put it in the most populated town not some hick town with population: 200 people. sheeeesh. so i probably wont be getting this channel any time soon. Stupid Time Warner.

[EscaflownePilot]

Considering the main audience of this network is going to be, for at least a little while, hardcore anime fans, no matter how much they target mainstream viewers. This means that ADV will have to show some subs here and there. It doesn't matter to me that much because despite the fact that I'm definately a die hard otaku I still prefer dubs (so long as they are more like Cowboy Bebop and less like Pilot Candidate).

As far as reruns go, in a way I hope that ADV only choses a few of their titles to air at one time initially so that they DO rerun at some point; the great thing about most anime is that each episode almost always builds upon the last, and the consequence is that if you miss the last episode, you're not going to enjoy it much. Thus, if ADV shows each show three times a day - twice dubbed and once subbed at night - they'll be able to capture mainstream fans or otakus new to the series by giving them the chance to catch up on some series, while die-hards get the subs at night.

Besides, if ADV shows EVERY single title they own all at once, I'd be SO busy trying to tape/watch everything they air I wouldn't have a life at all! So far, EVERYTHING presented to us has been incredible news that until now wasn't even a possibility. ADV has one of the largest catalogs of anime, and they are an ANIME company, meaning they won't edit the anime desrespectfully, whereas a KID company like Nelvana or 4KIDS couldn't care less about faithfulness to a series. While ADV doesn't produce the best dubs, they won't butcher anime or change its music or anything like that, and chances are they'll show some subs here and there. Right now everything sounds great, and until they announce otherwise, don't go on about how bad this could be.

It could be much worse; this could have come in the form of a Toonami network that only airs DBZ!

[Beat]

Other companies will pitch in, and the CN will lose a LOT of fans.

[KingKoopa]

I really doubt it'll all be ADV animes. While I'm willing to bet that they'll be the majority, I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T air things from other companies like X, Trigun, Hellsing or Rurouni Kenshin.

[Kaiser0120]

Posted by EscaflownePilot

It could be much worse; this could have come in the form of a Toonami network that only airs DBZ!

AHHHH!! *Runs screaming*

And my thoughts about CN loosing fans?

Tough shiznit. Their fault. Of course, they ARE going to turn into an All Audience Network in January.

Sooo... who the hell knows? >.>

[Cogliostro]

I might check out this channel once I get info on it such as how much it will be monthly and the shows they will be airing and plan on airing. If those two things are good then I will be getting the channel!

[JetMaster5]

You mean, there's actually a possibility that it'll air on basic cable? That's.......

......great! Now I wonder if the time warners would get that channel. Although, I highly doubt it (since that company is own by a certain someone who loves WB a bit too much).

I'm gonna try to get digital cable if time warner wouldn't.

As for Cartoon Network, well, as far as I'm concerned, they've lost a lot of faithful fans to the anime community when Adult Swim stopped showing openings, Toonami becoming nothing more than a cash cow that'll soon be going down the drain, and the addition of Pokemon and Yugioh to their primetime slots. It's like CN turning into just a KidsWB alternative channel. It's too bad though. They had a lot of potential and could live up with it if it wasn't for the merger of KidsWB to Cartoon Network.

However, for those who don't care about anime but love cartoons, well, they too lost a bit of fans after Yugioh and Pokemon joined with the Cartoons Cartoons primetime slot. But mostly, they're still faithful to CN because of their respect towards American cartoons (like putting Batman in a decent time slot with new eyecatchers and stuff) and more.

I really wish that time warner would get the Anime Channel. Otherwise, they're on a verge of losing another subscriber.

[Mynd Hed]

They will. All shall declare war on the CN! And Toonami will be smythed by the wrath of otaku!

Right, let's declare war on the network that for the past few years has shown more anime than any other network, and been far more kind to those shows in terms of censorship and general respect than any other network. I mean, I disagree with some- even a lot- of things CN has done too, but GEEZ. Would you rather CN had never touched anime in the first place? Because I guarantee you that if they hadn't, I very much doubt that anime awareness and availability in the United States today would be what it is.

And personally I don't think that CN will realistically lose all that much (if any) money to the new anime channel. First, the anime channel will probably be unavailable in many markets for a long time. Second of all, I don't know about the rest of you, but my appetite for anime is such that even when/if the anime channel is available in my area, I plan on watching any and all good anime Cartoon Network continues to show in addition to the anime channel.

If anything, CN will probably continue increasing the amount of anime, and the quality of their treatment of it and respect for it, in order to better compete with the new network. So this is nothing but good news for anime fans. It will also increase awareness for, and therefore audience size for, anime.

Good times! Good times.

[Venom234]

You all seem really excited, but I have to say that if this does get off the ground it won't last and if it does last it won't hurt cartoon network... unless it is on basic cable.

[pabcool]

Originally posted by Kaiser0120
Has digital cable. Is in luck. Fear him, AND his neko.

...

Fear the Neko more, though. Really.

But about my thoughts on this...

ADV... do they have enough shows to make 24 hours worth? I mean, for God's sake, that's 48 shows. They'd have to repeat something. If they joing with Bandai and/or Pioneer, though... It could be HUGE.

That's asking too much though... Damnit...

LOVE That... We'd Have SO Much Variety!

Anyway, If Nadesico, Lost Universe, Nadia And Slayers Get On This Channel, I'll Be Watching On A Must-See Basis.

[oranthal]

i just can't help but feel that this channel is a really hard sell. showing this on basic cable means stuff MUST be cut when things a little hairy. but if it lands on digital cable, there would be too small an audience. i would like want this channel to happen but as of right now, i am on the pessimistic side.

[jgully]

Originally posted by jkoolpe
This is great news!

My reasons are probably different than most here at the forum, though...I'd love to see this channel in the hopes that CN would transfer all of its anime shows (especially Pokemon) to this station exclusively so those of us (like myself) who don't care for anime don't have to be subjected to it.

I mean no denegration to those of you that like this stuff, but I've been wishing for an anime-free cartoon channel for a long time as I just do not see its appeal. I didn't mind it as much when it was only on CN in limited amounts, but lately, it seems to be taking over. But I can't blaim CN as I know it gets good ratings...it's just not my cup of tea I guess (although I'm sorry but I must say that Pokemon is simply awful...that South Park episode from a couple of years back that made fun of Pokemon was hysterical and dead on).

This new channel could give us the best of both worlds...anime for everyone who enjoys it, and no anime for people like myself:).

I know that since CN is owned by WB, this is not likely to happen, but I can still hope...

Or a second, all-classic toon CN network could be launched, too...that would also work for me:)...

Again, don't mean to upset anyone...just MHO...

Jon



your evil just plain evil i hope u have a good time watchin
your boomerang it's not our fault that our country can't make decent
cartoons that we have to go to another county to get our fix

[Jeff Harris]

Originally posted by MDawg957
I must continue to hope and pray that Cox Communciations picks this channel up, and then, I must figure out a way to afford digital cable *sigh* I'm hoping they're going to bring this and BlackBelt TV here as well, but they're a little slow on the draw. I mean, we still don't have MTV 2, Noggin, Boomerang, DiY, or GAS, among others.

[Trigger]

Dude! DBZ uncut, man! DBZ!

Hey if an anime channel can happen anything's possible.

[Czar Gato]

HEY! This is the best news I've had ALL DAY!!!! :eek: :D

[lupin the 3rd]

WELL I HAVE COX CABLE SO I HOPE THAY HAVE IT

[Jeff Harris]

Originally posted by Trigger
Dude! DBZ uncut, man! DBZ!Aw, you just missed it. Uncut (and untranslated) Dragonball Z has just finished airing on International Channel this past weekend. And the ending sucked . . . hard! Dragonball GT is about to begin.

You JUST missed it.

[jgully]

Originally posted by Jeff Harris
Aw, you just missed it. Uncut (and untranslated) Dragonball Z has just finished airing on International Channel this past weekend. And the ending sucked . . . hard! Dragonball GT is about to begin.

You JUST missed it.


i thought i was the only one who knew about that channel
and that ending did suck are u sure they gonna show gt now

[Sir Gatts]

Originally posted by jgully
i thought i was the only one who knew about that channel
and that ending did suck are u sure they gonna show gt now
International had a press release some time ago stating that DBGT would follow DBZ's run.

[jgully]

Originally posted by Sir Gatts
International had a press release some time ago stating that DBGT would follow DBZ's run.


thanks i wanted to make sure

[Trigger]

Originally posted by Jeff Harris
Aw, you just missed it. Uncut (and untranslated) Dragonball Z has just finished airing on International Channel this past weekend. And the ending sucked . . . hard! Dragonball GT is about to begin.

You JUST missed it.

I did see it all at International Channel. Can't wait till DBGT this Sunday! The reason I wanted it is because the eps were not subbed. Oh well...

I also agree that the ending sucked. It should have just ended with the defeat of Majin Buu.

[CouchWarrior]

I wasn't sure there was a God.. till now.... **hears angles sing** lol, This is great news! ^___^ I'm soooo happy!!! but.... T___T I NNEEEEED CABLE NOW!!!! When is this channel coming out? I gotta bug my mom to dddeeeeaaaatthhhhhhh. ^____^ :D :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D To bad they can't show some un-censored Yugi on it. ;__; **preys** Hey, it worked before. :D

[jeffrey 228]

Well I also the International Channel is showing Slayers Next also if you are wondering?

[jgully]

i wonder y slayers is subb titled and y dragonball z isn't

[Kaiser0120]

jgully, I usually wouldn't answer someone with as bad typing as you, but this is a good question.

The answer? Money. That's right. Since FUNimation grabbed them, the subtitled rights were so expensive, they said, "F**k it." Easy as that.

Slayers was much less exspensive, as they were before FOX decided to be Jerk Offs, grab it and not plan on showing it for all their asses are worth.

And about my thoughts on the ending of DragonBall Z... I really think they should have done some a bit more cryptic, something more... I don't know... Big?

But then again, it was much better in the manga. It just felt better because you could creat the tension, the wonder, "Where is Son Goku taking Ubuu, will they ever come back? Will this bring something bigger?"

But yeah. If anyone hasn't seen the ending, stay far away from what anyone else tells you and stay away from my spoiler box.

Yep.

[EscaflownePilot]

The one thing about this Anime Network being on basic cable is the openings. As I've said before, TAN's initial fan base majority is going to be otakus, and to please them the shows have to air with the original ops, ends, and eyecatchers. However, as demonstrated by CN's Adult Swim, this isn't possible with most shows because they need to be 22 minutes in length, yet with the op's and end's in tact these shows can run 25 min! If TAN is a basic cable network, they'll need to have 8 minutes of commercials just like everyone else to stay alive. It is quite possible to edit the openings down to 30 seconds, of course, and keep AT LEAST the main chorus of the song in tact, but whether ADV chooses to do this, I don't know...

**editted for spelling**

[Ikwig]

Originally posted by EscaflownePilot
The one thing about this Anime Network being on basic cable is the openings. As I've said before, TAN's initial fan base majority is going to be otakus, and to please them the shows have to air with the original ops, ends, and eyecatchers. However, as demonstrated by CN's Adult Swim, this isn't possible with most shows because they need to be 22 minutes in length, yet with the op's and end's in tact these shows can run 25 min! If TAN is a basic cable network, they'll need to have 8 minutes of commercials just like everyone else to stay alive. It is quite possible to edit the openings down to 30 seconds, of course, and keep AT LEAST the main chorus of the song in tact, but whether ADV chooses to do this, I don't know...

There are a few other things you could do there, besides cutting the openings. For instance, you could have shows start at odd times (i.e. not on the hour and half hour, but at 4:05 or that sort of thing) - which probably wouldn't be such a bad thing if you were showing several shows from one series in a row. You could also fill your hour with 1 half-hour show and several animated shorts, featurettes, etc. and place your 16 minutes (for the hour) of commercials accordingly. However, just shortening or getting rid of the opening would probably be easier. :(

That's why I kinda wish it would be a premium channel, rather than basic cable: it would cost money to get it, but there would be no commercials and editting wouldn't be an issue.

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by jgully
i wonder y slayers is subb titled and y dragonball z isn't Because FUNi won't let them air a subbed version. FUNi could pull DBZ off the I-Channel any time they wanted to, but they're letting them air it if they don't have subtitles (so people have to buy the DVDs anyway).

[Kaiser0120]

You mean, like I said above? >.>

[jgully]

just like everything else in this world it's all about the money

[jeffrey 228]

And money does not grow on trees anymore.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

My question is if ADV will get support from other companies like Bandai, Pioneer, Funimation, Manga, etc. Or if it will all be ADV owned properties. Man... I don't know how many times I could watch Goldenboy.

[jgully]

Originally posted by Kaiser0120
jgully, I usually wouldn't answer someone with as bad typing as you, but this is a good question.

The answer? Money. That's right. Since FUNimation grabbed them, the subtitled rights were so expensive, they said, "F**k it." Easy as that.

Slayers was much less exspensive, as they were before FOX decided to be Jerk Offs, grab it and not plan on showing it for all their asses are worth.

And about my thoughts on the ending of DragonBall Z... I really think they should have done some a bit more cryptic, something more... I don't know... Big?

But then again, it was much better in the manga. It just felt better because you could creat the tension, the wonder, "Where is Son Goku taking Ubuu, will they ever come back? Will this bring something bigger?"

But yeah. If anyone hasn't seen the ending, stay far away from what anyone else tells you and stay away from my spoiler box.








































Yep.

my spellings not that bad

[Artemis]

Originally posted by Trigger
Dude! DBZ uncut, man! DBZ!

Hey if an anime channel can happen anything's possible.

Well if ADV plans on airing subbed anime and they let other companies in on the deal, FUNi actually could license the subtitled version to them. It just depends if they're willing to.

[jgully]

u think they would show berserk or fruits basket

[oranthal]

Originally posted by jgully
i wonder y slayers is subb titled and y dragonball z isn't

what is really strange is why they show El Hazard in English and not japanese with subtitles. i'm not complaining though; the dub is very good.

[EscaflownePilot]

Unicron's_Death_Wish:
Since they own rights and all will they be showing Monster Rancher Season 1 and 2 or what someone who might know please gimmie some feedback on this!

I think ADV only owns video distribution rights to Monster Rancher, just like they do Medabots. Thus, they might not have broadcasting rights to Monster Rancher and wouldn't be able to air them on The Anime Network. Last I know, Fox Family had broadcasting rights to Monster Rancher, and they were bought by Disney, so I think Disney should still have the rights to air this series. I'd love to see Monster Rancher again sometime, though.

[Rainbow Fright]

*does weird lucid like loopy dance while chanting 'im loopy im loopy'* this reeks of awesomeness! too bad mom wont spring for digital cable :(

[CouchWarrior]

But do you think this anime channel will show Anime Movies? THat would be cool! ^_^ O, and once again, WHen does it come out?!?! I NNNEEEEEEDDD CABLE!!!! **runs around screaming**

[jgully]

is there any word yet on which cable companies will pick up the channel

[Matt Hazuda]

Originally posted by jgully
is there any word yet on which cable companies will pick up the channel No new info in the past week. Just give it some time, and i'm sure we'll hear something. ADV will want the info to get out as soon as they have it, so it will spread all over the internet(ToonZone included ;) )

[Kaiser0120]

Gir: I NEEEEED cable! I need it or I will explode . That happens sometimes...

I couldn't resist. ^^

[jgully]

Originally posted by pabcool
Hey, If Comcast's G4 And The Home Shopping Network Have Made It For This Long, So Can ADV's Anime Channel.



i don't have g4 could that mean i won't get adv

[EscaflownePilot]

Originally posted by jgully
i don't have g4 could that mean i won't get adv

Since G4 and ADV's Anime Network aren't related either by company or even content, no. Actually, I expect more cable companies to pick up Anime Network than G4 simply because, to them, Anime Network will look like another cartoon channel, and these cartoon channels are all doing pretty well, whereas they might look at G4 and think it stupid to carry a TV network about games.

I'm just speculating, though. You probably have as good a chance as any of us at getting Anime Network... which is unfortunately probably not good, at least for a couple of years.

[Gary L Thompson]

Originally posted by EscaflownePilot
I think ADV only owns video distribution rights to Monster Rancher, just like they do Medabots. Thus, they might not have broadcasting rights to Monster Rancher and wouldn't be able to air them on The Anime Network. Last I know, Fox Family had broadcasting rights to Monster Rancher, and they were bought by Disney, so I think Disney should still have the rights to air this series. I'd love to see Monster Rancher again sometime, though.

You and me both.

Disney bought the library of shows from Fox's partnership with Saban, Monster Rancher was not a Saban show but a BKN show. Last word I heard was that ADV has told anyone who has asked them at conventions that they will do Monster Rancher, but this effort could take years because BKN's affairs are in such a mess right now.

Note aside to Unicron's_Death_Wish: I think the airing of Monster Rancher's Seasons 1 & 2 are virtually a given for anyone who does air it. The crucial question is whether they will air Season 3, which has been shown elsewhere in the world, but never here.

Personally, if I ever aired Monster Rancher, I would not only air all 73 episodes, but I would order one additional season, because: 1) the show's ending was very open-ended (I hear it ended with Genki, Holly's father, and the rest of the gang just staring up into the blue) and it would be nice to have a more satisfying ending than the episodes closing the first three seasons, 2) at least 100 episodes would be better for future weekday rerunning than 46-48 episodes shown in the U.S. or 73 episodes shown abroad, and 3) the monsters could be incorporated from the MR3 edition of the game.