OK, so Batman has this thing about reforming his villians...

[Frank White]

.... if so how come the Riddler got no love in Riddlers Reform? Batman tried to reform both Scarface and Two-Face, even though he was unsuccessful he still tried. He didn't even give the Riddler a second thought.

[TimTwoFace]

I think that Batman felt that the Riddler was BEYOND reform, and, at the same time, smelled that taking up the job with Baxter Toys was just a ploy. With Two-Face, Catwoman, Penguin, Ventriloquist, and everyone else, they all actually did make a real conscious effort towards trying to heal themselves - but the Riddler, he's too driven by his ego to give up his life of crime. Batman had to follow him around for a bit just to make sure, and when the Riddler ultimately messed up, he was all over him.

He treated Poison Ivy the same way in HOUSE AND GARDEN, actually, now that I think about it. :)

-Tim

[DerekPowers]

actually, if memory serves me correct (its been a while since i watched riddler's reform), batman was skeptical about the riddler's reform, as he is with all the 'reforming' villians at first. but right away, didnt riddler hide a secret riddle in the first toy commercial that batman picked up on, making him distrust eddy even more?

in "birds of a feather" batman was very skeptical of peguin at first too, but after trailing him for a while and warning him to stay out of trouble, it seemed he was atleast trying to give reform a try. same w/ ivy in 'house and garden', he was doubtful at first, but was eventually convinced they were trying so lightend up on them. riddler didnt seem to try so hard to convince batman of otherwise, and the riddle in the commercial didnt help matters.

with the ventriliquist, i think hes more sypathetic, and actually suffers from a disease (multiple personality or scitzaphrenia sp?), so when he was declared 'sane' it was rino and mugsy trying to drive him over the edge again, and bats just didnt want that to happen.

as far as catwoman, i dont ever remember bats trying to reform her, and she's always been a special case. in btas, she was never a full on villian (which always kind of bugged me), so a reform was never really the case. in 'catwalk' it was alway more of selina making the right decisions and bruce trying to help her make them, she was always in complete control and always sort of justified her crimes, where as the others like ivy almost couldnt help it.

and we all know why batman wanted to help two-face. plus two-face was 'kidnapped' before bats very eyes, so there was really no need to suspect him untill he figured out who was actually behind the abduction. and i think in general batman is more sympathetic to villians that are sort of victims, like ventriliquist, or harvey, and clayface and mr. freeze, who he offered help to on many occasions to try and reverse theyre conditions.

anyway, sorry for the ramble. peace.