The old grey hare, it ain't what it used to be?

[Billy]

Has the print of 'Old Grey Hare' still got those dubbed version titles overlaid, ruining the ending joke?

[Daniel P]

Originally posted by BillyH
Has the print of 'Old Grey Hare' still got those dubbed version titles overlaid, ruining the ending joke?
Yep. I hate Dubbed Versions.

[Billy]

Oh, rats!

This means I still don't have any proof for this topic at http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26257 as Old Grey Hare hasn't aired over here for months.

[Daniel P]

I saw the non-dubbed version on Cartoon Network NZ in 1997.

[Tom41]

I saw the Old Grey Hare not too long ago on Cartoon Network UK. It had the original ending with the shaking That's All Folks card. Howerver, the 'dubbed version' text was overlaid at the bottom of the picture.
There seems to be an abrupt fade to black after the explosion, there's a long period of blackness while the Thats All Folks music finishes. Maybe something was cut?

Oh, anyone know why Cartoon Network often put a border round the opening titles and That's All Folks endings?

[Billy]

Well at least I have proof now...!

I still need it to air again so I can capture the ending card.

[Boy Wonder]

Originally posted by dacp3
Yep. I hate Dubbed Versions.

The one reason why I hate them is because they sometimes erase orginiality like "The Old Grey Hare".

[Jack]

Originally posted by Tom41
Oh, anyone know why Cartoon Network often put a border round the opening titles and That's All Folks endings?
This is done by a lot of companies, even for video releases. TV screens tend to cut off the edges of an emage, sometimes over an inch depending on the TV set. I've heard this referred to as "TV cutoff." The title cards of the old WB and MGM cartoons were not designed with TV cutoff in mind (for obvious reasons), so they have to window box the titles in order to keep the copyright, credit, and title information completely viewable on screen.


Jack :D

[Bum]

Originally posted by Jack
This is done by a lot of companies, even for video releases. TV screens tend to cut off the edges of an emage, sometimes over an inch depending on the TV set. I've heard this referred to as "TV cutoff." The title cards of the old WB and MGM cartoons were not designed with TV cutoff in mind (for obvious reasons), so they have to window box the titles in order to keep the copyright, credit, and title information completely viewable on screen.


Jack :D

Anyone who watched W-B cartoons on TV in the 1970's will remember the frustration of trying to see the copyright info on the pre-1953 titles. Most of the time it was unviewable, which was extremely annoying to someone like me who actually CARED about such trivial things as when the films were made! The first time I ever recall seeing the "letterboxed" opening titles [on the post-48's] was on the Golden Jubilee home video series. I don't believe they turned up on TV that way until several years later [and the pre-48's weren't letterboxed until Turner got ahold of them].......

[Daffyfan2002]

Yeah, I've never really had a problem with "dubbed versions" unless they edit out something like that. It would be nice to see the original "That's All Folks" card in that one. Come to think of it. I don't care much for the fake "That's all folks" cards with the lower case "f" that a lot of "dubbed versions" of early cartoons use. As for the "dubbed version" of "Gorilla My Dreams," which was mentioned before that a lot of people didn't like. Well, it's been a while since I've seen that one. I'd have to see it again to make a judgement for myself.

[Jason Furness]

I actually have a copy of The Old Gray Hare with its orginal ending - I taped it off a TV airing of "Bugs Bunny Superstar" about 8 years ago.

So, if you can find a copy of Bugs Bunny Superstar, now you have another reason to buy it. :)

[Daffyfan2002]

I was thinking about ordering a copy of that movie online, but I don't know, most of the cartoons on that tape are regularly shown on CN and I already have a few of them.

[Pilmedium]

Since the proper ending to "The Old Grey Hare" is around, it is just another one of those things that Cartoon Network should get, but doesn't.


Originally posted by Daffyfan2002
Yeah, I've never really had a problem with "dubbed versions" unless they edit out something like that. It would be nice to see the original "That's All Folks" card in that one. Come to think of it. I don't care much for the fake "That's all folks" cards with the lower case "f" that a lot of "dubbed versions" of early cartoons use.

The dubbed version ending is annoying, especially on the cartoons that were not blue ribbon re-releases.

[frogboxer]

Originally posted by Daffyfan2002
I was thinking about ordering a copy of that movie online, but I don't know, most of the cartoons on that tape are regularly shown on CN and I already have a few of them.
I would recommend getting it because it has the cartoon "I Taw a Putty Tat" which I doubt is shown on CN very much (if at all), and if it is then I'm certain it would be edited. Also, it has some really interesting interviews with Bob Clampett, Friz Freleng, and Tex Avery.

[Daffyfan2002]

Actually, I already have "I Taw a Puddy Tat" on video and it isn't edited. About the interviews... Hmmm. I'm going to want to think about that for a while.