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Calhoun07
05-11-2001, 10:24 PM
The recent discussions about ROTJ on the Batman Beyond board got me wondering about this. Both are Warner properties, but does the JLA cartoon have to answer to the same censorship restrictions that Batman Beyond and ROTJ had to or will there be more freedom permitted on Cartoon Network, and subsequently in any original movies made for the series that they may release?

Man of Steel
05-11-2001, 10:29 PM
Hey:

I think that the JLA show won't have any problems with censorship, cause Cartoon Network shows volience all the time such as Dragon Ball Z, Batman, Superman, and some other shows that they show. But since the WB and Cartoon Network are joining forces I have a bad feeling that all the good shows will be toned down on the volience, but what the heck we will still see the show that everyone is crazy about and I can't wait for it to premier on TV for the first time.

James Harvey
05-11-2001, 10:43 PM
TImm says that CN hasn't actually had any problems yet with any of their script work! They don't even get notes saying 'change kill to destroy'. CN has been completely cool with them. They already know what they can or cannot do. KWB has increased their censors this past year. CN hasn't becuase they're a cable network, and since they'r enot held back by network and FCC regulations, can do much more than any network. JL will be great becuase they ain't forced to bring in that kiddie factor. Also, remember on IMDB.com how it said "Batman's daughter Trina"? Well, that's gone -- THANKFULLY! JL isn't forced to throw in a teenage sidekick and/or idiotic morals. It could be as great as the original BTAS was...hopefully...I'm confident this show won't suck as much as X-MEN: EVOLUTION.

Beyond Batman
05-12-2001, 05:42 AM
Considering WB is a basic network like Fox, NBC, ABC, etc. From what I understand, Cartoon Network is cable, so it's not freely accessable to the general audience, unless it's paid for. Although I personally don't agree with WB's censorship regulations, I can understand why they have to be tight on that issue. Because kids of all ages can tune in, and may not understand the concept of how to deal with violence. I hope things won't have to be changed due to censorship. I feel censorship takes away an artists' perspective, and that you don't get the "real deal."

Actually, if you watched the unsensored ROTJ, they did a very sloppy job with cleaning up a key part. If you waw it, I'm sure you know what I mean.

-Beyond Batman :)

The Mad Hatter
05-12-2001, 03:40 PM
Oh my yes, they'll have freedom. DG quoted the statement I wanted to use, but it's worth repeating that CN is giving the scrips MUCH fewer notes than KWB, even when KWB had a lot less censorship (like in the days of "Over the Edge"). As far as I'm concerned, CN is the best place for JLA.

optimal321
05-12-2001, 10:29 PM
Well, i hope you all w/ cable enjoy the less-censored-cooler-sounding JLA, while i'm stuck w/ Zeta. Bitter? Who me? I'm just thankful i have this site to hear about it when it comes out.

James Harvey
05-12-2001, 10:40 PM
CN will undoubtably release AT LEAST the 90 minute premiere on video/DVD. They have a good habit of releasing their popular series on video, so ther emay be hope for you yet!!
:)

kid_flash
05-13-2001, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by optimal321
Well, i hope you all w/ cable enjoy the less-censored-cooler-sounding JLA, while i'm stuck w/ Zeta. Bitter? Who me? I'm just thankful i have this site to hear about it when it comes out.

I'll be taping every episode, and I'm offering copies of the episodes to anyone who wants 'em. I've heard a lotta people are missing out on it because they don't have cable, and I think that'd suck, so I'm doing what I can.

To those interested, I'll be recording off Direct TV onto VHS, so it'll be pretty good quality.

James Harvey
05-13-2001, 01:37 PM
That's awfully kind of ya. DirectTV (which I have at home -- but the Canadian version) has astonishing picture quality! I'm not sure if I'll get Justice League next fall, but I can't wait to see it!

DR.MID-NITE
05-14-2001, 02:00 PM
I already have the vcr set to sp mode to tape each episode to go along with my sp off air copies of all the Batmans to Superman. Now, if they release any of these on dvd. My tapes go buh bye! :D

Inque
05-15-2001, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by optimal321
Well, i hope you all w/ cable enjoy the less-censored-cooler-sounding JLA, while i'm stuck w/ Zeta. Bitter? Who me? I'm just thankful i have this site to hear about it when it comes out.

i'm still bitter because i don't have cable.:mad:

James Harvey
05-16-2001, 12:40 PM
Time to beg the parents!!
:)

Nightwing
05-16-2001, 12:51 PM
lol, that's true. But although I grieve for my non cable toonzoners, isn't it worth it? CN and JL won't be given any censor aggrivation pretty much because of where it is, network wize. So I'm sure there won't be any ROTJ incidents ever again.

James Harvey
05-16-2001, 01:16 PM
I think the action will be more intense in this series. Plus, I hope we see more of Superman's powers here, and I think we will. While we got a nice showcase of it on his series, it was just mainly his heat vision, flying and x-ray vision. He's got more than that -- let him go all out!!

Salvor
05-16-2001, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by DickGrayson
I think the action will be more intense in this series. Plus, I hope we see more of Superman's powers here, and I think we will. While we got a nice showcase of it on his series, it was just mainly his heat vision, flying and x-ray vision. He's got more than that -- let him go all out!!
But showing Superman's extra powers is risky... I really don't want the series to turn into a lame DBZ clone. Let's hope Timm and the crew can come up with an ok compromise.

James Harvey
05-16-2001, 02:53 PM
I hope we don't see Superman "powering up" fo rlike ten minutes screaming "HEAT VISION!!".

The Flash
05-18-2001, 01:23 PM
I don't think we have anything to worry about....

Manhunter
05-19-2001, 08:56 PM
Have you seen the stuff they get away with on Powerpuff Girls?Imagine what they could get away with on Justice League.

Inque
05-19-2001, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Manhunter
Have you seen the stuff they get away with on Powerpuff Girls?Imagine what they could get away with on Justice League.

what kind of stuff? please explain for the cable-deficient.

Manhunter
05-19-2001, 09:57 PM
Well,I know of at least two episodes where they've alluded to "relationships" in prison.Also,the blood and flying teeth(of course,PPG is meant to be humorous,but still..).

The Mad Hatter
05-19-2001, 10:35 PM
...blood and flying teeth in the title sequence, no less.

Nightwing
05-19-2001, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
...blood and flying teeth in the title sequence, no less.

That's right! So you can see it over and over and over again. Although, I must say the title sequence is my favorite part of the show. I like the first couple episodes they did for The good old What A Cartoon Show, but after that it didn't catch me that much.

But I'm sure worrying about Timm DBZ-ifying Superman is anywhere near something we'll have to consider doing. Although DG does paint a hilarious picture, having Clark charge up his heat vision for 10 minutes shouting, "HEAT VISION!!!!" LOL!!!

Imagine if Batman was in the same episode, and standing nearby with an intensly bewildered and confused look on his face while Superman did that!

DR. BELCH
05-21-2001, 03:19 PM
--the girls' unusual reaction to tasting sugary snacks for the first time in "Candy is Dandy". Like I said before, those girls are growing up so fast. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/gorgeous.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/contrib/fk/bronwen.gifhttp://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/contrib/fk/bats.gif There was a very dodgy joke along these lines in a PPG/Superfriends commercial, in fact--Wonder Woman complimented the girl's fighting skills, and Blossom thanked her, saying, "Someday we'll be just as developed as you are!" http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/kao/chika/chirolp_gaan.gif The room fell silent. Wondie blushed and covered her chest with her arms. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/kao/otn/blob_box.gif Lex started laughing...and pretty soon everybody was yukking it up.

I know one prison relationship gag was in the second episode with the Anubis statue...a male dog came on to Mojo the second time he turned himself into a mutt (actually, male dogs do that to each other all the time--it's not a gay thing, just a gesture of dominance)http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/smileysex5.gif ...but what was the first?

I.R Joey
05-22-2001, 12:44 AM
Dr Blech that last Smiley is just wrong man.

Manhunter
05-23-2001, 03:35 PM
Yeah,Blech,that was just sick...but it was funny.

Oh,and the first prison relationship gag was also in a Mojo Jojo episode.It was the one where he used Harry Pitt as a weapon.At the end,after the PPG beat the hell out of him,his inmate sits real close to him and gives a certain kind of look.

Calhoun07
05-23-2001, 04:16 PM
Don't listen to them, Belch! That last smilie was the best! I laughed almost as much at that one as I did with the woman with her breats covered by smilies in one of my posts! :D