Cn Stinks!

[Boy Wonder]

CN has ruined my viewing pleasure of LT. Here is two examples:

1. Deleted Bugs and Daffy from the Daytime Lineup
2. The Looney Tunes show has been cut from 4 hours on Sat., and Sun., to 3 hours a day, to 2 hours on Saturdays. Thankfully that's not such a huge loss on Saturday, because Tex Avery, and Chuck Jones show are on. One thing I do hate, all LT (or classic cartoons in general) have been cut (and Cartoon Cartoons have replaced them). If I want good cartoons, I have to wait until late at night.

I know all of you have had experiences like this, so that's why I made this thread. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :bosko:

[Matthew Hunter]

Here we g-g-g-g-uh, start again. Actually, I hate it too, but believe it or not it's been a lot worse. Remember the time around 1999 when CN didn't HAVE that many LT-related shows, and they made Bugs and Daffy a prime time, 2-cartoon show? Yep. For a while it was the Cartoon Cartoon of the Day/Bugs and Daffy show. :eek: I hate that they removed Daffy, Bugs and Speedy, but I have a feeling they'll be back someday.
-Matthew

[candy17]

Why doesn't everyone here just get a clue. I mean, CN is doing the best they can with the stuff they have. Can they help it if most of their airtime is dedicated to their made-for-CN cartoons? Besides, would you rather watch this or Toon Disney (which has little to no classic Disney cartoons).

I'm sorry if I'm being mean, but this CN-bashing has to end right here right now or I'm never coming back here (and this time I mean it). Sure, what you say is your opinion, but have some respect to those who think otherwise.

[rodney]

Originally posted by candy17
Why doesn't everyone here just get a clue. I mean, CN is doing the best they can with the stuff they have. Can they help it if most of their airtime is dedicated to their made-for-CN cartoons?

Speaking of respecting the opinions of others, why don't you show a little respect for those who don't like CN? Personally, I don't have CN, and I don't want it. They show exactly 30 minutes of programming a week that I *really* want to see.

If CN can't control their programming schedule than who can? CN claims to have some astronomical number of cartoons in their library and yet you say that they're doing the best with the stuff that they have?! That makes no sense.

I don't want you to leave our board, but if you can't handle people disagreeing with you, then perhaps it's for the best.

[lislebartman]

Personally, I take offense by having some teenybopper telling me or anyone else on this board to 'get a clue'...! (Must be a 'Cartoon Cartoon' lover!!!)

If there's anyone here in this thread who is clueless, it's not me, Rodney, Matthew or Boy Wonder...and they know who they are...!

[Tintin]

Why T&J was not replaced by B&D?? That's very often the same shorts. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Boy Wonder]

Originally posted by candy17
Why doesn't everyone here just get a clue. I mean, CN is doing the best they can with the stuff they have. Can they help it if most of their airtime is dedicated to their made-for-CN cartoons? Besides, would you rather watch this or Toon Disney (which has little to no classic Disney cartoons).

I'm sorry if I'm being mean, but this CN-bashing has to end right here right now or I'm never coming back here (and this time I mean it). Sure, what you say is your opinion, but have some respect to those who think otherwise.

Yeah, maybe we were a little bit too harsh, but I was just wxpressing my feelings. Also, I am just wondering if you LT on a regular basis from March-October? You will notice something. :confused:

[rodney]

Originally posted by Boy Wonder
Yeah, maybe we were a little bit too harsh

Sorry, I don't think so. Perhaps the thread itself wasn't necessary, but that's not nearly as harsh as blasting everyone and telling them to 'get a clue'.

[Boy Wonder]

Originally posted by rodney
Sorry, I don't think so. Perhaps the thread itself wasn't necessary, but that's not nearly as harsh as blasting everyone and telling them to 'get a clue'.

Yeah, maybe your're right. But really, I was just trying to experiment with an idea, and see how people were going to react. And yes, I was p'd off by the "get a clue" thing, but hey, it happens once in a while. :yakko: :bosko:

[lislebartman]

Boy Wonder:

Please don't feel guilty about starting a thread...that's just plain ludicrous!!!

All of us here should feel free to say things and start threads, but to be insulted and told to 'get a clue' is plain rude, pure and simple...

YOu've done nothing wrong, amigo!!! :cool:

[Jack]

Originally posted by candy17
Sure, what you say is your opinion, but have some respect to those who think otherwise. You seem to imply that *HAVING* a different opinion is disrespectful to those who think otherwise. Boy Wonder never said anything nasty about people who like CN's current schedule.


Jack :bosko:

[Thad Komorowski]

CN has been worse to us. Remember when there was no Late Night Black & White and Acme Hour? That sucked royal.

Now, I too am dissappointed with the lack of the Cartoon Network's LARGEST part of their cartoon library (and don't tell me otherwise, because I'll just ignore it), and the fact that Tom & Jerry is still on for an hour. Really, do we HAVE to see the same Little Quacker or Tuffy as a musketeer cartoon AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN???

IMO, they should cut down T&J to half an hour on week days, and fill up the other half with B&D. I'm sure everyone will agree with me on that.


Thad

[Joe Tully]

I think that the thing that candy17 is trying to point out is, they have to take out somebody's favorite show every now and then. I don't think you'd find a board on the forums that hasn't had something to complain about at one point or another. That's the way things go. It hardly seems fair to say things like 'CN Stinks' for making one decision you don't like, especially when they're rarely appreciated for what they do right (Popeye Show, Toonheads, sneaking in unPC toons here & there, bringing back LNB&W, etc.), or for even showing them in the first place.

[Jon Cooke]

Originally posted by Joe Tully
I think that the thing that candy17 is trying to point out is, they have to take out somebody's favorite show every now and then. I don't think you'd find a board on the forums that hasn't had something to complain about at one point or another. That's the way things go. It hardly seems fair to say things like 'CN Stinks' for making one decision you don't like, especially when they're rarely appreciated for what they do right (Popeye Show, Toonheads, sneaking in unPC toons here & there, bringing back LNB&W, etc.), or for even showing them in the first place.


"Rarely appreciated?" Come on, I know people here do their fair share of complaining but I bet the posts praising the Popeye Show, LNB&W, and the recent appearances of such characters as Speedy and Mammy outnumber the occasional "CN Stinks" thread.

Myself, I am not getting worked up over the absence of Bugs & Daffy. I am sure they'll be back soon enough. In the meantime, I am enjoying the variety on the Acme Hour in the afternoons.

I think it was obvious that Boy Wonder wasn't speaking for the entire board. Simply stating his own opinion. I have no problem with that.


-Jon

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by Jon Cooke
"Rarely appreciated?" Come on, I know people here do their fair share of complaining but I bet the posts praising the Popeye Show, LNB&W, and the recent appearances of such characters as Speedy and Mammy outnumber the occasional "CN Stinks" thread.


Maybe, but it always seems very fleeting in the tide of overwhelming adversity... :rolleyes:

I would debate over "fair share," myself...

[Emmanuel Cruz]

I just hope "Bugs and Daffy" will come back soon, with a bang.

-Emmanuel :bosko:

[Matthew Hunter]

What's gotten into you guys? I kind of like to think this board sets an example of how to behave on Toon Zone, and this thread does not fit that description. Candy17, I don't know what it is with you, but you have a knack for stirring up controversy. I have no problem with that, but you do it in such a harsh way. If you want people to get along with you here, don't just ask for trouble. And Lislebartman...You're not helping either. Okay, so she's new and has the tendency to be rude. Does that mean you have to be worse and call her a "teenybopper" or "clueless"? I expect better of you. It's unpleasant confrontations like the foregoing that are really plaguing Toon Zone right now, I know from experience more than I ever cared to. What happens on other boards and the way they behave over there is their business, but here, we treat people with gentleness and respect. What this looks like is a battle of egos, the old "I know more than you" scenario. We can all learn from each other, but I don't want anymore of that stuff out of either of you too. And that goes fer the rest a ya!
-Matthew

[J Lee]

OK, Candy, here's why so many people tend to get ticked off at Cartoon Network, depending on what their latest schedule is: When Time Warner and Turner merged, putting all 1000-plus Warner Bros. cartoons under the same banner for the first time ever, the executives had the option of keeping the distrbution package in its 1995 format, wihch was all pre-48s on Cartoon Network and other Turner channels, while the post-48s were split between Nickelodeon and ABC.

Instead, they decide not to renew their deals with Nick and ABC in order to put all the WB shorts on Cartoon Network, which they started doing about 18 months after the merger, a process that was completed when the ABC agreement ended in September of 2000.

Cartoon Network now had about three times as many Warners shorts as they did before the merger. But because of their decision in the interim that they would push their "Cartoon Cartoons" in prime time in hopes of creating characters that could make mucho dinero in licensing agreements, the air time cleared for Warners cartoons on CN is actually lower than it was in 1995. Combine that with the loss of the roughly five hours a week the WB shorts aired on ABC and Nick in the mid-1990s, and you can see why a few people might be a little out of sorts at CN from time to time.

As it turns out, the "Golden Age" of Warner Bros. cartoons on TV was from September 1988 to September 1992, when the cartoons were in four different packages -- ABC, Nick, Turner and the post-48 syndication package that dated from 1964. During those four years virtually every Warner Bros. cartoon was airing somewhere at some time, even if Nick and ABC were hacking off the opening and closing title credits. CN could do the same thing today, but doesn't, and Boomerang still doesn't have enough market penetration among homes with cable TV to make a difference.

[BlueAngelGal]

Wanna know what saddens me? There was a brief period recently where I could watch the Acme Hour every night as I went to bed (4-5 a.m.), and Scooby was only a half-hour at 3:30.
Now, they've returned to the horrible, horrible schedule they once had -- Scooby at 3:30, then a Scooby Movie at 4-5. Too much Scooby, not enough good toons! :(

[Daffyfan2002]

Yep. I'm in "Clueless." I have a role as Alicia Silverstone's new beau in the sequel. Lol. Just trying to lighten things up here. Candy, I see your point, but you do have a tendency to be harsh with people. Please try to find a more friendly way of stating your opinions. Actually, I'm sorry but I sort of like the Cartoon Network's afternoon schedule now and watch it when I have time. It has been a while since they played the 1976 "Scooby-Doo" series and the "Flinstones" has been played only at late night and on weekends before, so I thought it was a good idea that they moved those shows to the afternoon. Especially now that I'm taking "Prehistoric Archeology." I always get out of that class thinking "Gee, I feel like watching 'The Flintstones.' Lol." But, don't get me wrong I do wish they'd show Bugs and Daffy during the day, or maybe they should at least put it back on in the evening like they did about a year or so ago. Just my two cents.

[Boy Wonder]

Originally posted by Emmanuel Cruz
I just hope "Bugs and Daffy" will come back soon, with a bang.

-Emmanuel :bosko:

Hey Emmanuel, nice idea! Put that with Acme Hour, and T+J, and some of the frustration will just go away.

[Boy Wonder]

Originally posted by Matthew Hunter
Here we g-g-g-g-uh, start again. Actually, I hate it too, but believe it or not it's been a lot worse. Remember the time around 1999 when CN didn't HAVE that many LT-related shows, and they made Bugs and Daffy a prime time, 2-cartoon show? Yep. For a while it was the Cartoon Cartoon of the Day/Bugs and Daffy show. :eek: I hate that they removed Daffy, Bugs and Speedy, but I have a feeling they'll be back someday.
-Matthew

Yeah Matt, CN has come a long way from that standpoint. But just when CN had it right, that show either got cut, or disappeared off in a city far away where Naboo was under an attack. That's about 99.9% of my frustration. :bosko:

[Gossamer]

back when Acme Hour got dropped from the schedule, as well with LNB&W and O Canada? All three are back now. Bugs and Daffy will be back, probably within six months or less. They just rotated programming again, that's all. Do I wish LNB&W was an hour? Yes, I do. But programming changes periodically on virtually every network and CN is no different. Bear in mind that there are fans of every type of programming CN runs. There are 26 The Popeye Show episodes, with another 13 apparently in production and it's at a decent time. I'm glad O Canada is back and that CN has scheduled Rejected to run November 3rd. I like cartoons, period. While I wish that CN would get Totally Tooned In and some other stuff would happen, I understand things take time and that schedules change every few months. Would you rather CN were like Toon Disney? Relax (especially candy17).

Robert Reynolds
Tucson AZ

[Daffyfan2002]

Well, one good thing about this is the Acme Hour is now showing more cartoon with classic characters. It used to be that the only WB cartoons they played were one-shots.