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Batman's Biggest Fan
08-17-2002, 06:25 PM
I mean they all think he's a little serious at times, but if they knew the reason why I think they'd understand him more. If they get into origin episodes in season 3 I think they should focus on this a little more.

Knight
08-17-2002, 06:29 PM
When has Batman ever volunteered info about himself to anybody. Thats something he just doesnt do. He tells only what is nessasary.

Frank White
08-17-2002, 11:01 PM
Does Superman even know his origin?

DCU Bat
08-17-2002, 11:27 PM
Does Superman even know his origin?

Well, He does know he's Bruce Wayne and he probably knows he lost his parents which is why he has that degree of concern for him.

I think Martian Manhunter knows because he's telepathic but promised not to tell. So, they shared eachother's trust.

I think the only other league member that's eligable to know Batman's secret is Wonder Woman, But I guess she finds out by acciedent.

susan123
08-18-2002, 03:54 AM
Since Batman doesn't have superpowers he needs to keep his background a secret. If any of the others let slip his true identity his usefulness as a crime fighter would be at an end. (Yes he does have great gadgets but none of them are can do what GL's ring can do). Batman's enemies (and some JL enemies as well) would not rest until they had destroyed either him or those he cares about. Ra's Al Ghul is the exception in that it seems more of a battle of wits between him and Batman.

I don't mean that the other members of JL would let his identity become known intentionally but it might slip out. Diana has always been open and honest and would probably call him Bruce instead of Batman. Flash sometimes speaks before he thinks which could be disasterous.

Batman's Biggest Fan
08-18-2002, 09:04 AM
what degree of concern?

Two-Face
08-18-2002, 09:55 AM
Who says he DIDN'T tell them?

Anarky
08-18-2002, 11:02 PM
after peeking, I'm sure Clark kent put the pieces together. After all, he does have the Daily Planet's resources at his disposal.

And I suppose J'onn knows as well. But he's probably like Charles Xavier and refuses to go peeking into anyone's mind w/o his/her consent...or unless the situation really calls for it (e.g. probing GL's mind to find him on Ajuris 5)

as for the rest...is it really their business?

Besides, we've seen Bruce keep secrets from Robin, Barbara, Alfred, and Terry McGinnis. It's part of the Batman mystique.

Perhaps he'll open up to Diana or Hawkgirl one day. (highly unlikely)

Here's a scenario I like. An injured Aquaman enters the Batcave thru the underwater channel. The cave's alarm goes into DEFCON 5. Bruce springs to action to find Aquman stumbling up the stairwell. He utters for help, then collapses into Bruce's arms. End dramatic stinger music, fade to black, roll the opening sequence. Batman calls Superman to transport Aquaman to the Watchtower.

As to how Aquman would know his identity, perhaps Aquman observed the Batboat leaving and enetering the cave from beneath the surface. Information he kept until needed: either for aide or for war.

TheGothsandman
08-19-2002, 10:42 AM
Batman only shares info with those he trust fully(when it comes down to his identity). Granted, superman snuck a peek, but he returned the favor. Martian Manhunter probably knows due to the psychic link, but has no intentions on telling.

If anyone else finds out, I can see Bruce handling the situation with extreme force since some of them really don't have an identity.

Young Justice
08-19-2002, 10:52 AM
I don't know if all the members know about Batman's identity, but they sure know that there's something to do with Bruce Wayne, since it was the Waynetech that has builded the Watchtower. Or at least, Batman has builded with funds from Wayne Enterprises.

Frank White
08-19-2002, 04:23 PM
Who knows, the JL could think Bats and Bruce's relationship is like Iron Man and Tony Stark in the comics. People thought Iron Man was hired by Tony Stark, or his personal bodyguard since they where connected so much.

Young Justice
08-19-2002, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Frank White
Who knows, the JL could think Bats and Bruce's relationship is like Iron Man and Tony Stark in the comics. People thought Iron Man was hired by Tony Stark, or his personal bodyguard since they where connected so much.
Yes. That's excatly what I've said. The least the JL members know about Batman's identity is that is somewhat related to Bruce Wayne. They have to be really close in some way (They are indeed!) :)

In the comics Batman have used his "relationship" with Bruce Wayne in a JL comic arc which was a parody of James Bond. Batman, as a Bruce Wayne "in disguise" goes to the Queen Bee (is this really her name in english?) country, with other JLers such as Beatriz Costa, Blue Bettle and Golden Booster. In the cover of that issue it was written: "My name is Wayne, Bruce Wayne"

Knight
08-19-2002, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Young Justice

Yes. That's excatly what I've said. The least the JL members know about Batman's identity is that is somewhat related to Bruce Wayne. They have to be really close in some way (They are indeed!) :)

In the comics Batman have used his "relationship" with Bruce Wayne in a JL comic arc which was a parody of James Bond. Batman, as a Bruce Wayne "in disguise" goes to the Queen Bee (is this really her name in english?) country, with other JLers such as Beatriz Costa, Blue Bettle and Golden Booster. In the cover of that issue it was written: "My name is Wayne, Bruce Wayne"

That was a good storyline Batman not only went undercover as Bruce Wayne but also as Maxwell Lord during that story. It was funny when Fire came on to him as Bruce Wayne and he told her he was hideous under that disguise.

JusticeLeagueLegion
08-19-2002, 08:59 PM
Batman wouldn't do anything to expose himself...Flash hasn't ever mentioned his past...in fact most of the Leaguers haven't...not that we've seen anyway.

TheGothsandman
08-20-2002, 01:31 PM
you have a good point there justice.

JusticeLeagueLegion
08-20-2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by TheGothsandman
you have a good point there justice.

I thought so too, I mean why the heck did he bring up Batman? None of them have said much about their past's to each other.

murmur
08-21-2002, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Young Justice
I don't know if all the members know about Batman's identity, but they sure know that there's something to do with Bruce Wayne, since it was the Waynetech that has builded the Watchtower. Or at least, Batman has builded with funds from Wayne Enterprises. Hidden funds, as Batman explained. And he did so only to Superman, I might add. There is still no reason any other Leaguer has to know. Yet. Besides, it adds some fun subtext, like when [from Paradise Lost pt. I] Hawkgirl obliviously tells Batman, referring to Aresia, that it's hard to imagine what kind of effects being orphaned at a tender age can have on a child. Eventually, it would be interesting for a member or two to find out...maybe. But yeah, let's see more of the other JL histories too...

Sparvid
08-21-2002, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Frank White
Who knows, the JL could think Bats and Bruce's relationship is like Iron Man and Tony Stark in the comics. People thought Iron Man was hired by Tony Stark, or his personal bodyguard since they where connected so much.
http://www.marvel.com/comics/bullpenbits/bits/bit10.gif

;)

Frank White
08-21-2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Sparvid

http://www.marvel.com/comics/bullpenbits/bits/bit10.gif

;)

ROTFLMAO!

Patrick Bateman
08-21-2002, 07:13 PM
Flash hasn't ever mentioned his past

That's what I've wondered. Why doesn't he take off his mask when he's at headquarters? The last time I read a Flash comic, he didn't even keep his identity a secret, even from the public. He said that the only reason he wore the mask was to honor Barry Allen.

Webryder
08-21-2002, 07:46 PM
Why are you guys pussy-footing around the issue? Just come out and say it.

Bottom line, Batman is a VERY peranoid guy. For a lotta reasons: his family was murdered in front of him, he deals with the scum of humanity for a living, doesn't want to share Alfred and his housekeeping skills with the rest of the Watchtower....etc. Whatever the reason, the guy just doesn't get along well with others. The rest of the League could save his life 50 times over (probably have at this point) and he'd still insist on signing the Javelin out for midnight joyrides with the alias "Batman" instead of "Bruce Wayne".

He's kept everyone around him at a distance his whole life, at this point it's probably more a force of habit than anything else. :rolleyes:

Keep pretending it's all about him being noble or mysterious and not wanting his family and close friends to get hurt and what have you, but it's mostly because he's just a wee bit screwed up in the head. :D

mbaker
08-24-2002, 10:21 AM
Bruce said he wasn't much of A people person. So it is A force of habbit. If I delt with as many crooks as Bruce has, I'd be pretty moody too. (Take it from me.) Superman is the only member who knows Batman's identity. J'onn prabably knows through telepathy, and respects his privacy. One thing I find interesting is everyone know's Woder Woman's identity. As well as her past. Diana seems more open about her life than the others.

LadyM
09-01-2002, 11:25 AM
Batman doesn't trust trust easily. He's the only guy on the JL without superpowers or their equivalent (power rings, mechanical wings, etc.) . . . That's enough of a disadvantage without risking his secret identity.

(And if you're looking at the comic continuity . . . he'd be especially paranoid after the Hal Jordan/Parallax thing. Though he did reveal his identity to the JLA in the comics at Superman's insistence.)

Ah, I remember the James Bond/Bialya issue! :D

http://www.mlbw.com/Images/Temp/Cover16.jpg

When they first arrive, Fire says, "I feel a little silly in this outfit. Does Bruce Wayne always travel with bimbos?" and Bruce replies "So they tell me . . ." *G*

~LM~

Batman's Biggest Fan
09-01-2002, 12:27 PM
maybe we should get into some origin episodes revolving around one member than some bad guy like maybe Ra's plays on them