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Anime_girl
08-14-2002, 04:38 PM
How many Anime and Manga series have villians that turn good and is looking for redemption for all the evil their done ?


Ex. Dragonball Z Vegata,Yu Yu Hakusho Hiei

czyznyck99
08-14-2002, 05:23 PM
I know it happened in Ronin Warriors, I just forgot the lady's name...

batboy2001
08-14-2002, 06:12 PM
Wolfwood from trigun, I guess(the anime)... Although not a villian per say, Himura kenshin.

gtracer72
08-14-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by czyznyck99
I know it happened in Ronin Warriors, I just forgot the lady's name...

There was Anubis, but he was not a lady. He was the one that took The Ancients place.

There was also Lady Kayura. That is who you might be talking about.

gtracer72
08-14-2002, 07:09 PM
Could you consider Zechs Marquies (sp?) [from Gundam Wing] seeking redemption??

Mackenzie Rainelle
08-14-2002, 08:15 PM
Ehhhh.....he hasn't really turned GOOD, but he kinda looking after that little human girl, so I say Sesshoumaru from Inuyasha.

Most of Zagato's henchmen from Rayearth...And even Zagato himself wasn't that evil once you read to the end of the first half of the manga...

Satoshi Hitawari from DNAngel isn't really evil, that's mainly Krad's influence on him, but he lightens up later in the manga.

Zechs
08-14-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by gtracer72
Could you consider Zechs Marquies (sp?) [from Gundam Wing] seeking redemption?? To me he just seemed confused about some things.( if not all I haven't seen the show in a while thought I have EW on tape but by then all his issues have been put to rest). I think he just wanted to find something to fight for because he was a fighter I think Noin may have mentioned it some where in the series I think he did to. In then end it sems he fighting of what he feels is the right cause. If you remember he says something like. Humans have plauged this earth with ther igoranc and he wants to correct it. I feel he in the end was trying to find himself.

Zero Angel
08-15-2002, 07:47 AM
well all of the Jupingatena really try to change at the end of Kyoto. Sojiro Sata and Anji i think are the only ones that seek redemption in their own ways though.

Kusinagi from Blue Seed starts off as an anti-hero then later on becomes a good guy.

i cant think right now...i will write later when i have more.

batboy2001
08-15-2002, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Zero Angel
well all of the Jupingatena really try to change at the end of Kyoto. Sojiro Sata and Anji i think are the only ones that seek redemption in their own ways though.

Kusinagi from Blue Seed starts off as an anti-hero then later on becomes a good guy.

i cant think right now...i will write later when i have more. Ack, how could I forget Anji, who can see Sojiro as the next kenshin? :p I think maybe perhaps that long stick girl, ER, guy, mighta changed also?

RogueMartian
08-15-2002, 11:04 AM
It happens constantly,

Several characters from DBZ started out as a villain. Piccolo, Vegeta, and Android 18(several others i'm sure, but i haven't seen all of Dragonball or all of DBZ).

Irvine in zoids

Hiei, Kurama, and to some extent Kuwabara from yu yu hakusho.

Wolfwood in Trigun

Kusinagi in blue seed(yeah that is kind of a stretch i know, but technically he was supposed to be helping the bad guys in the beginning)

...It just happens a lot, Its one of the myriad of things i like about anime.

gtracer72
08-15-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by RogueMartian
It happens constantly,

Several characters from DBZ started out as a villain. Piccolo, Vegeta, and Android 18(several others i'm sure, but i haven't seen all of Dragonball or all of DBZ).

Irvine in zoids

Hiei, Kurama, and to some extent Kuwabara from yu yu hakusho.

Wolfwood in Trigun

Kusinagi in blue seed(yeah that is kind of a stretch i know, but technically he was supposed to be helping the bad guys in the beginning)

...It just happens a lot, Its one of the myriad of things i like about anime.

Irvine?? :confused: . He was never really a bad guy. Now Raven on the other hand did turn good towards the end of Guradian Force.

Sheamon
08-15-2002, 06:10 PM
Folken from Escaflowne's a great example. My favorite character in the series infact. :D

Thats all I can think of at this time.

Majin_Megabyte
08-15-2002, 11:16 PM
I have one new on that haven't been said yet and that person is Piccolo from DBZ.

Mynd Hed
08-16-2002, 02:24 AM
Umm, actually RogueMartian already mentioned Piccolo.

Yamcha (sp?) is another one from Dragonball, although he turned good so early in the story that not too many people (especially DBZ fans) know that he was ever evil.

Steve Jester
08-16-2002, 04:53 PM
Hiead from PC, although really not a good example seeing as though

he has yet to turn good in either the anime or the manga, but he has some charectereistics of Vegeta, ne?

gtracer72
08-16-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by jesteranimefrea
Hiead from PC, although really not a good example seeing as though

he has yet to turn good in either the anime or the manga, but he has some charectereistics of Vegeta, ne?

I can't see Hiead turning good. But, then again, I really don't think he is bad either. What has he done to be deemed a bad guy?? Is it his feud with Zero??

Steve Jester
08-16-2002, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by gtracer72


I can't see Hiead turning good. But, then again, I really don't think he is bad either. What has he done to be deemed a bad guy?? Is it his feud with Zero??

I REALLY hate to cross PC with DBZ but think Hiead = Vegeta and Zero = Goku

Ikwig
08-16-2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by jesteranimefrea


I REALLY hate to cross PC with DBZ but think Hiead = Vegeta and Zero = Goku

I could definitely see that (and I like to think that, like Vegeta, Hiead will be redeemed in the end, but the redemption will not sit easily upon him, also like Vegeta - you know: Vegeta generally does good against his own will; he's good, but he isn't happy about it.)

Mackenzie Rainelle
08-16-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by jesteranimefrea


I REALLY hate to cross PC with DBZ but think Hiead = Vegeta and Zero = Goku

::annoyance:: Does everything have to be cross-referenced to DBZ? They could just as easily (in my head anyway) be referenced as Shuten Douji and Ryo Sanada from Yoroiden Samurai Troopers (Ronin Warriors), and that show was older than DBZ.