View Full Version : Dini Confirms More Batman Direct-To-Videos (DTV)s!
James Harvey
08-18-2001, 01:00 AM
At least three more direct to video Batman fims are in the works, ranging from BTAS style to TNBA style to JL style! Dini confirmed this as well as uncut ROTJ may be released, at the Wizard comic con! Is this great or what? Something for all the Bat fans!!
I.R Joey
08-18-2001, 01:21 AM
Sweet....
So these are all brand new right?
Calhoun07
08-18-2001, 01:21 AM
That's awesome! Did he give any word on what the subject matter might be? Will we get a new Batman Beyond movie that wraps up the loose threads from the series?
James Harvey
08-18-2001, 01:36 AM
The material will be all-new! Scripts have been handed in and WB is expected to greenlight! They will only be the 'original' Batman as BB is no longer being considered at WB.
Mr. Obsession
08-18-2001, 02:13 AM
That's great news. But I'm suprised that they'll be in different styles, personally I'd rather have them all in the same style if they're going to be released around the same time.
I wonder, will one of these turn out to be the Joker-Bane team up that was planned (I believe the script was completed) but shelved for RotJ.
Was there any word on SubZero being released on DVD?
kid_flash
08-18-2001, 02:34 AM
SCORE! I personally think this is awesome, on a ton of different levels:
1) More Batman animated. Can't really go wrong there.
2) Different styles to please different fans, and also showing the evolution of Batman.
3) ROTJ uncut: The Holy Grail of Bat-videos. If this sucker goes on DVD, we're in it big time, AND it'd really wrap up the whole "evolution of Batman" thing I mentioned above.
YAY!
Originally posted by DickGrayson
The material will be all-new! Scripts have been handed in and WB is expected to greenlight! They will only be the 'original' Batman as BB is no longer being considered at WB.
THAT IS AWESOME! YAY!!!! I love to hear that. After all these years of suffering with this BB crap they will finally drop it.Hoorey! I never liked BB! These are the best news I heard for a long time! :) :) :) ;)
Mr. Mayhem
08-18-2001, 09:13 AM
Batman Beyond was still good. Let's not bash it because it has helped the animated Batman stay in the light over the past two and a half years. However, in many ways it was more of a fad. Now it's back to basics. Bruce as Batman again, and I can't wait. Justice League, BTAS on DVD, Batman Vengeance, and three possible new animated movie. It's gonna be like 1992 all over again. The future of Batman sure is looking bright, .....er I mean dark.....er...ah let's just say animated! Thanks for the info DG.
Bird Boy
08-18-2001, 10:03 AM
sweet mother of pearl..that's the best news I've heard in a long time! They better come to DVD as well..VHS is crappy.. hehe
-BB
The Mad Hatter
08-18-2001, 10:41 AM
YEEEE-FRIGGIN'-HAW!!
Nicest surprise I've gotten in a while... well, besides the "likeliness" of ROTJ uncut, that is...
Joker85
08-18-2001, 10:45 AM
Even if they don't come to DVD i'll still by them because its more BRAND NEW BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAY!:D :D
optimal321
08-18-2001, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Joker85
Even if they don't come to DVD i'll still by them because its more BRAND NEW BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAY!:D :D
Even if they do come to DVD i'll still buy them because i don't have a DVD Player. But one is looking really good right now.
JLU Dude
08-18-2001, 01:23 PM
...tell me that all four of those are coming out on VHS, too.
James Harvey
08-18-2001, 01:24 PM
They will be on DVD/VHS when released. WB has discovered alot of money can be made here, which is funny seeing how they actually sell the most DVDs. I've been trying to get ahold of Boyd Kirkland to see if he Joker/Bane script will come through but his X-Men: Evo works keeps him busy. I'm not sue eif that script was shelved or not, but I'm pretty sure it is since it was over 2 years ago. I think these videos are a great idea! With 2 greenlighted and more on the way - it's just a great time to be a Batman fan!
Maxie Zeus
08-18-2001, 05:29 PM
Was it WHV's turn to borrow the one functioning brain in the entire AOL-TWX organization?
Oh, frabjous day! Calloo! Callay!
(Sorry, Hatter, it had to be said, and you missed your chance! :p )
DerekPowers
08-18-2001, 07:33 PM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY CRAP, THIS CAME OUT OF NO WHERE! ACTUALLY, JUST THIS AFTERNOON MY LITTLE BROTHER READ SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ONLINE AND TOLD ME BUT I DIDNT BELIEVE HIM, I FIGURED HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TAS DVDS, THEN I COME HERE AND HEAR ABOUT IT! THIS KICKS *****$$$$! I CANT WAIT! SERIOUSLY, THIS IS TOO MUCH. BUT, NOT TO UPSET THE HIGH WE GOT GOING HERE, BUT......
Will these movies be subject to the same rediculous censorship standards that rotj was? Are we going to get Batman light, or the dark knight?
Is both Dini and Timm working on the projects?
ANYWAY, EITHER WAY THIS IS GREAT NEWS! A COMPLETE SURPRISE! I FEEL LIKE CELEBRATING, TOO BAD I'M THE ONLY BAT FREAK AMOUNG MY FRIENDS. AND IN 3 STYLES!!! DOES IT GET ANY SWEETER? PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knight
08-18-2001, 08:50 PM
Thats great news I've been longing for another Batman animated movie for a long time and hopefuly the movies come out looking as good as ROTJ which I feel is the best animated Batman themed film to date. Also the news that they may finally realease the uncut version of ROTJ is really good because I refused to buy the cut version after I saw the uncut bootleg. If they release the uncut version they will definetly get my money then.
xbuilder
08-18-2001, 09:41 PM
Paul was once pegtged to do JLA. His line up and I quote
"Zatanna and a bumch of other people"
and for all you guys a picture you'll never see anywhere else!
Bruce Timm's Picture to Paul Dini.
This was a Christmas gift and I'll Deny letting it out
It does not exist
repeat it does not exist.
http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg
I'm letting you guys see this but please don't spread it about
xbuilder
08-18-2001, 09:44 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by xbuilder
[B]Paul was once pegtged to do JLA. His line up and I quote
Here's the link since the Posting didn't work
http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg
Joe Tully
08-18-2001, 10:25 PM
Very cool, I just hope that if they do ones in TNBA style they do something about Robin and Batgirl, I thought that Bats only needs one sidekick at a time (unless there is something really dangerous) and Robin needed to look older. It's hard to believe that this little kid is beating up guys literally four times his size, I remember seeing him taking on Joker's henchmen in Holiday Knights and just not believing the difference in size. I probably would be happier if they dropped Batgirl other than for the occasional team-up, I enjoyed her in BATS and looked forward to each appearance but TNBA made her a bit annoying and we saw her too much. I think this was due to stupid KWB people thinking that kids needed some sidekicks to lighten up the stories, hopefully they shouldn't feel this way about the tapes and DVDs. I'd probably like it if they cut down on Robin too, like in BATS with the original Robin. I mean, Robin's a superhero, but he's still a kid, he can't be there that much! He has homework and other stuff to do! Besides I think Batman generally works better on his own, but I do like occasional team-ups for big threats.
But enough griping! This is really cool stuff and I am glad to hear it! I was very disappointed when they dropped the original for Beyond! I'm sure they'll do a great job!
I.R Joey
08-18-2001, 10:45 PM
I'm still not getting it though Xbuilder try again.
xbuilder
08-18-2001, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by I.R Joey
I'm still not getting it though Xbuilder try again. link (http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg)
xbuilder
08-18-2001, 11:15 PM
http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg
link (http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg)
Drizzt2215
08-18-2001, 11:46 PM
Hey guys, this is Larry, old poster from when the board started, been here a few times making some return appearances, but planning to stick around now that the board is lively again and we have actual.....well, things to talk about. JLA and Batman films! Yahoo!!!
Hey, that's a great pic of Zatanna. *drools* Yeah, Dini is a huge fan of the character, can't wait for his Zatanna miniseries. Did she meet Bts on BTAS or was that just her father? Can't remember. Well, this Team-Up flick will kick serious ass that's for sure!Can't wait till we find out more details about this and the other flicks.
Xbuilder, I checked out yer site, but all I see is a GREAT picture of a superhero team, some profiles, a store, and what really has my interest, a submissions page. I'm an aspiring writer in SoCal (aren't we all?) and I'm really interested. What are you guys looking for? Is there more at the site where I can find out? I would LOVE to give it a shot and pitch you guys.
Well, take care man, and thanks again for linking that pic! Talk to ya later!
Lar
xbuilder
08-19-2001, 12:04 AM
Hey.
My site is down for repairs there is actually a section on our publicationd that will be up in a week.
hopefully by the time I get back from Dragon Con in Atlanta.
If your interested i writing email me samples of your work.
we are looking for RPG designers and comic book writers.
Drizzt2215
08-19-2001, 12:14 AM
Ah, the site's down. Well, I'm really interested in writing comic books myself, you want me to e-mail you something I've written, like a plot sample? I actually wrote up a JLA story I was planning on trying to send to Dan Raspler, I could give you a look at that. Not my best work exactly, but I really like it. Lemme know what you'd like to see, and of course I'll send it to ya. BTW, I did a little looking into that Nemesis thing, saw the concept for Burnout I believe it was called, the one about the comic book company that hires actors to play their superheroes and then they _really_ have to be heroic, absolutely love it! Really good story, great spin on the genre. Well, gonna jet. Ciao!
Lar
xbuilder
08-19-2001, 12:19 AM
You send it, I'll read it :).
I'm working on a proposal for DC also called
"The Names of Shazam"
It could be an elseworlds or in cotinuity but it would deal with the others out there possesing variations of the power of Shzam and the Marvel family.
Drizzt2215
08-19-2001, 12:36 AM
Hmmm, really like that Shazam idea. I've always felt that is/was one of the most underused concepts in the DCU, in desperate need of an update. "Big Red Cheese"? Jesus. Good luck with that! Okay, I'll send ya that proposal asap.
Lar
ShadowWolf
08-19-2001, 10:37 AM
This is great news but.......I'm afraid of how it will turn out. After what the WB did to ROTJ, i have my doubts about getting something animated and uncensored from them. Maybe i'm just paranoid and everything will turn out fine.
Drizzt2215
08-19-2001, 01:07 PM
Well, look at it like this. ROTJ was a very violent, intense film. That's how it was written, that's how it was supposed to be.
"Batman's Greatest Team-Ups" sounds, from the title and concept alone, to be more lighthearted and fun. Expect it to be on par with the level of violence on BTAS/TNBSA, but nothing more extreme than that.
In other words, while yes, things can _always_ happen, I don't expect WB have any problems with this one.
The real question now though, is will ALL future animated Batman projects be this light, or will we ever get something like Mask of the Phantasm or Return of the Joker again?
Lar
Mr. Mayhem
08-19-2001, 01:43 PM
I wouldn't worry about the whole censorship thing. I'm sure Paul Dini will be extra cautious this time so we won't have a delay in the film's release. Yeah, I think WB is full of a bunch of morons after what they did to ROTJ. Still, even the edited ROTJ isn't a bad film. It's still written on an adult level. If you are worried about it being extra lite and corny, scrap that thought now. JL isn't seeming to be corny and lite. I think Dini will keep everything on a adult level.
Look at the Spider-Man: Animated Series! Now that is corny! It contains very rushed and childish diolouge. The voice casting is over the top. That show is clearly meant for younger children. Now compare it to something like BTAS, TNBA, STAS, BB, and their respectable animated movies of thus far. They contain very thoughtful and non-rushed diolouge. The majority of the scripts are excellent. Most of all, they have the best voice casting of any action animated program. Those are the key factors that will seperate the mens' cartoon from the boys' cartoon.
James Harvey
08-19-2001, 02:09 PM
ROTJ isn't as bad as people refer it to be. It's not some over-the-top violence fest. It's actually on par with the animated series, save the flashback which is another story. I think Dini will be a bit more cautious when writing these. It's takes a big man to continue to write for a company that screwed him, it takes someone better and that's what he's doing. Plus, I don't think these will be directed toward the kiddie group anyways.
Bud 'n Lou
08-19-2001, 06:24 PM
I still can't see the picture. :O(
Maxie Zeus
08-19-2001, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Bud 'n Lou
I still can't see the picture. :O(
Me neither.
xbuilder
08-19-2001, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Me neither. link (http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg) http://www.geocities.com/mizer_1/zatanna.jpg
xbuilder
08-19-2001, 07:35 PM
its not working for you guys :(
is there anbother way to upload
Bird Boy
08-19-2001, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Me neither.
Yeah?!? Well..me neither!lol
the whole site doesn't work for me! :(
-BB
DerekPowers
08-19-2001, 08:45 PM
i hope these scripts are as good as we expect them to be. did dini himself write them all or did he collaborate with anyone like timm or burnett? i'm sure they will be good, but i'm starting to wonder if they will be what we expect, like for example, are you expecting motp or subzero. i personally would love to see a motp quality story, but from the sounds of things, it sounds more like a subzero story. it just seems like the minute we hear about the movies the scripts are already greenlighted. why didnt we hear any news during the writing process? was there a writing process or were these scripts rushed? was there collaboration between the original creators (dini, timm, burnett, murakami?) i'm just curious.....
Originally posted by DerekPowers
i hope these scripts are as good as we expect them to be. did dini himself write them all or did he collaborate with anyone like timm or burnett? i'm sure they will be good, but i'm starting to wonder if they will be what we expect, like for example, are you expecting motp or subzero. i personally would love to see a motp quality story, but from the sounds of things, it sounds more like a subzero story. it just seems like the minute we hear about the movies the scripts are already greenlighted. why didnt we hear any news during the writing process? was there a writing process or were these scripts rushed? was there collaboration between the original creators (dini, timm, burnett, murakami?) i'm just curious.....
Personally, I enjoyed Subzero alot. It was a great film. It's not as good as TMOP, but it's still an excellent film. Sure, alot of people don't agree with me, but I don't really have a problem with the film at all.
Knight
08-19-2001, 11:03 PM
Speaking for myself out of the three Batman related animated movies out Subzero ranks dead last. I expected a lot more out of it than what I got. It lacked a lot of action and featured Batman and Robin struggling to defeat a couple of polar bears. Just thinking about it makes me upset. The Bat-Team (producers/writers) could have come up with a way better story for a animated movie, atleast they could have made it somewhat interesting. Subzero cant touch MOTP or ROTJ.
James Harvey
08-19-2001, 11:24 PM
Subzero still can't hold a light to ROTJ and MOTP, but I'd still like it in my DVD collection. I'm hoping these scripts will be a bit dark. I can't see the team up ones being all that involved, like MOTP. But if there is a script or 2 that aren't team ups - I'm hoping those will be just as intense.
Drizzt2215
08-19-2001, 11:30 PM
I just thought I should let ya know that I clicked on your profile and e-mailed ya the pitch late, late last night. Not sure exactly how that works, if it forwards it to you, private messages you, etc. but I didn't see any other e-mail address for you. Well anyways, have a good one! Talk to ya later!
Lar
(who is also working on a "Superhero High" concept)
Drizzt2215
08-19-2001, 11:40 PM
Someone care to clarify here?
The first project is gonna be a SERIES of team-ups, presumably the length of a single episode per each one, bringing it to roughly 80 minutes long. This dtv film will feature Batman teaming with-
Superman
Zatanna
Plastic Man
and
Green Arrow
There is also a second greenlighted film, rumored to wrap up the loose ends raised by ROTJ. This a TNBA film or a BB film? Or kinda a BB prequel?
And there is a third rumored project that is to be set in BTAS time? Is the third project confirmed at all, or just rumor at this time?
Also, DG said that these will all be in different styles. So, the team-up will be in the JLA style, the other one in TNBSA style, and the other one BTAS? Correct?
Lar
(very confused, but excited nonetheless)
Calhoun07
08-20-2001, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by xbuilder
its not working for you guys :(
is there anbother way to upload
Calhoun07
08-20-2001, 12:05 AM
I liked Subzero. Not more than the others, of course, but I liked it. And it was certainly better than Batman and Robin! But that goes without saying, right? But I do wish they would put Subzero on DVD.
DerekPowers
08-20-2001, 12:25 AM
hey, i loved subzero too. i thought it was VERY exciting and fun to watch. but motp and rotj are soo much better. subzero more like a special or multi-part episode. i would really love to see quality stories with these new movies, but it doesnt sound like all that much time was put into writing them since this is the first time we hear about it and the scripts are already done and greenlighted. maybe casue they were already written, like the joker/bane team up, but does anyone know for sure? and did only dini write them?
Bird Boy
08-20-2001, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Knight
Speaking for myself out of the three Batman related animated movies out Subzero ranks dead last. I expected a lot more out of it than what I got. It lacked a lot of action and featured Batman and Robin struggling to defeat a couple of polar bears. Just thinking about it makes me upset. The Bat-Team (producers/writers) could have come up with a way better story for a animated movie, atleast they could have made it somewhat interesting. Subzero cant touch MOTP or ROTJ.
well..I seem to remember Sub-Zero being delayed a good 2-3 times before it came out..maybe there is a un-edited version of that as well? hehe
Thanks for that pic Calhoun....it's a nice one!!!! :)
-BB
kid_flash
08-20-2001, 01:00 PM
I liked Subzero, but more than anything it felt like a way to show off some neat animation. But I did enjoy it. Not to the level of MOTP or ROTJ, but it was good.
Bud 'n Lou
08-20-2001, 02:16 PM
Thanks, Cal!
Calhoun07
08-20-2001, 03:03 PM
Hey, the file has been downloaded 11 times already! I am surprised! I thought only a couple people had problems with the link! Good to see now everybody can appreciate that cool picture!
the only thing that bothered me about Sub Zero is the computer animation they mixed in there. I have to say I didn't care for it all that much, it did look cool, but as somebody pointed out, the movie did suffer a tad because it did seem as if it was partly a vehicle to show off the new animation. Aside from that, I liked the movie, and Mr Freeze is one of my fav Bat villians of all time, especially the animated version!
Paul Dini was there from the beginning , the first season..The first 65 shows that Fox contracted for.. He was also on the staff of Tini Toons, and wrote for that, may have directed too. It will be great to see some new work from him...Hopefully we will see it relatively soon. I have read that he has kept in contact with fans, and has a real strong affection for Batman..Like to hear from others about his background...Mine is limited..Thank you.
James Harvey
08-20-2001, 06:05 PM
I will give props to Sub-Zero for a real awesome opening sequence. The use of Danny Elfman's theme was ingenious and worked very nicely.
Vigo Sprax
08-21-2001, 12:04 AM
It would be nice if they just included Sub-Zero with the DVDs of the TV show or as a double feature (with extras) with another film, perhaps a rerelease of MotP or in a box set with these new DVDs.
James Harvey
08-21-2001, 01:58 AM
They did release WORLD'S FINEST/PHANTASM/SUB-ZERO/BATMABEYOND: THE MOVIE in a VHS 4 pack two years ago, I think. and it was only like $50 for the 4 flicks. Id love to see a similair box set with these on DVD.
DR.MID-NITE
08-21-2001, 11:12 AM
The one thing I loved about subzero was Michael Ansara's voice over. I think he is tied with Mark Hamill's Joker as the best voice to match a character with.
James Harvey
08-21-2001, 01:01 PM
They got Freeze dead on with that voice! I can't imagine a more perfect voice. Well...maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger...JOKING!
Drizzt2215
08-21-2001, 03:57 PM
LOL, good one dude! *shudders at Batman and Robin* The only good thing to come of THAT movie was The New Batman Adventures, and to a lesser extent, Sub Zero. Indeed, Michael Ansara is dead on as Mr. Freeze, but really, I think the voices have almost ALWAYS matched the characters. I can't imagine anyone else doing them, and when they have (*cough*Talia*cough*BatgirlInSubZero*cough*) I've almost always came out disappointed. I think the only examples of different voice actors taking over the roles that actually imrpoved over the old ones would be the gorgeous Tara Charendorf as Batgirl (though some have debated that one) and the "new" voice of Bane (the guy's like 85 years old! Yikes!) who along with the updated look, transformed Bane into one of the BEST villains on the show, and one of the most underused at the same time. I mean, come on, the most wickedly evil line ever delievered on the show came from Bane. "Give your dear Barbara a kiss for me."
Lar
(thinks Heart of Ice has gotta be one of the best episodes Dini, Timm, and co. have ever done)
Maxie Zeus
08-21-2001, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Drizzt2215
I think the only examples of different voice actors taking over the roles that actually imrpoved over the old ones would be . . . the "new" voice of Bane (the guy's like 85 years old! Yikes!)
I'll have to check the end credits to be certain, but I'm pretty sure Henry Silva did Bane in both "Bane" and "Over the Edge." If not, I've got to correct my page! :(
Batgirl
08-22-2001, 04:54 PM
I'd like to see a script that kinda focuses a lillt more on Batgirl and Nightwing... the whole, sparks will fly concept. The series didn't do a good job in that. I hope that they don't turn TNBAS into BB. That would be wrong. BB is ok, but I highly doubt things would end like that, I mean, they screwed with a few too many characters. Barbara having an affair with Dick and then going to Bruce was replusive. That really gave her a bad light. Hopefully TNBAS will have all the characters in it. It's fun to watch the interaction between Dick, Babs and Tim. For the BB movie it'd be cool to see what happened to Dick (maybe a new Nightwing from his lineage). That and kinda have an end like ROTJ. And for the BAS movie, whoa, that's completely open. I did like SZ though. Any how, I think it sounds promising, I just hope they don't screw it up... should I remind every of the fourth live action installment which shall not be named?
xbuilder
08-22-2001, 05:03 PM
From Paul-
"Night wing is in retirement traing other Vigilante's"
one of the plots where to have ***** kid come and try to to take the mantel from Terry.
another Plot a New Bat girl (***** Daughter) falls for Terry.
and Zatana's Daughter seeks Vengence on Bruce for Mom's Death.
Calhoun07
08-22-2001, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by xbuilder
From Paul-
"Night wing is in retirement traing other Vigilante's"
one of the plots where to have ***** kid come and try to to take the mantel from Terry.
another Plot a New Bat girl (***** Daughter) falls for Terry.
and Zatana's Daughter seeks Vengence on Bruce for Mom's Death.
Were these unused plots for the Batman Beyond series then? No chance of seeing these (especially the first one!) arise as a plot for a DTV, eh?
xbuilder
08-22-2001, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07
Were these unused plots for the Batman Beyond series then? No chance of seeing these (especially the first one!) arise as a plot for a DTV, eh?
Yes they where Plots Paul had planned
Calhoun07
08-22-2001, 05:35 PM
Bummer. I hope we get to see these lost plots get fleshed out as stories in the future.
James Harvey
08-22-2001, 08:43 PM
The voice did indeed voice ALL of his appearances. And those sound like some cool plots. WOuld've love to have seen them come to fruition.
Drizzt2215
08-23-2001, 01:37 AM
So, the same guy did voice Bane in BTAS and TNBSA? Huh. Well, I haven't seen the BTAS episode in years, and to be honest, I was so hung up on how LAME he looked (like a cheesy Mexican wrestler) that I probably didn't pay much attention to the voice anyways. Either way, when Bane came back, he had a new look and attitude that transformed him from a complete lame-o into one of Batman's most frightening and formidable enemies on the show.
As for those BB plots, well, damn. I don't know about Dick's daughter becoming Batgirl and developing a crush on Terry, but I REALLY like the idea of him having a son who wants to become Batman, and to be honest, has a much more legitimate claim to the title than Terry does. That could have been a really great episode, especially if Dick came along to support his boy in this endeavor, and we gotta see him interact with Bruce. Fantastic idea on Dini's part.
Zatanna's daughter, eh? Well, there's one that could have been really good too. It's a pity we'll never get to see these, nor anymore of the JLU. I'd have loved to of seen a fourth and final season of Batman Beyond, but if it was that or the Justice League, well, we know there isn't really a contest, I'd take my favorite classic heroes any day of the week, and from what we have seen and heard, THAT show may just end up rivaling BTAS in terms of sheer greatness.
Lar
James Harvey
08-23-2001, 10:09 AM
It would've been great to see these all played out. I'd like to see these touched upon in the upcoming direct-to-video Batman movies. I think these movies can help serve as a bridge between TNBA and BB - even if BB isn't official continuity or whatever.
Originally posted by xbuilder
From Paul-
"Night wing is in retirement traing other Vigilante's"
one of the plots where to have ***** kid come and try to to take the mantel from Terry.
another Plot a New Bat girl (***** Daughter) falls for Terry.
and Zatana's Daughter seeks Vengence on Bruce for Mom's Death.
Woah! Batman Beyond season 4 could have been the best season ever!!! Dick, his son and his daughter? Too cool!
Calhoun07
08-23-2001, 05:31 PM
I knew they were holding out on some good stories, just didn't know how good until now! This makes it all the more damnable what WB did in killing off Batman Beyond. If they didn't put it on the fire so quickly, we could have at least had a DTV wrapping up the series, and covering these great plot threads. I gotta go curse now something firece!
xbuilder
08-23-2001, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07
I knew they were holding out on some good stories, just didn't know how good until now! This makes it all the more damnable what WB did in killing off Batman Beyond. If they didn't put it on the fire so quickly, we could have at least had a DTV wrapping up the series, and covering these great plot threads. I gotta go curse now something firece!
It was going to be the best Season of the sow but WB thought it wasn't cost effective as compared to other shows and shows thery can buy from Japan.
oranthal
08-23-2001, 09:51 PM
the news of batman teaming up with other super heroes for the DTV made me think about the "worlds finest." i actually thought that "worlds finest" was only average, and i didn't really like it that much. i hope the team-ups will better than "worlds finest" but "worlds finest" wasn't a "real" movie, so maybe that is why i didn't really like. why does batman have to team-up with anyone at all? does WB think that batman is not good enough to uphold the film all by himself? i don't my mind if they throw in robin or batgirl because they are the essential characters in the batman universe, and having batman teaming up with other superheroes seems like a gimick.
Robin2099
08-23-2001, 11:22 PM
WB really has a bad habit of doing this. First they kill Superman right after the excellent Legacy episodes. Now they kill Batmn Beyond. Granted Fox did it to with the original BTAS but still.
Govan
08-23-2001, 11:35 PM
Did Fox actually kill B:TAS? I thought it was just because their 5-year contract with the show was up (then it went to the WB). I don't know much about this area so maybe someone could fill me in...
Tim Drake
08-24-2001, 07:54 PM
You're right. Fox's five year contract simply expired.
Robin2099
08-26-2001, 11:32 PM
That was part of it. In an old issue of Wizard, it said that one of the biggest reasons was Fox killing episodes that didn't feature Robin. So after that, when there contract was up they quit making new episodes and Fox just ran the repeats. I'll look up the issue and post what it says here.
Shriek
08-27-2001, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Bird_Boy
sweet mother of pearl..that's the best news I've heard in a long time! They better come to DVD as well..VHS is crappy.. hehe
-BB
Don't make fun of VHS! It gets the job done!
Calhoun07
08-27-2001, 03:49 PM
Yeah, so does LP, 8 Track, and reel to reel.
Shriek
08-27-2001, 11:26 PM
Hey I still have DVD man. But I like my VHS. Only because I'm a cheap butt.
Video Tape works, so does DVD...Lets not get into it over which is better. The sound on Video Tape, is just as good as CD or DVD. I think it is encoded in a very similiar way.. The definition on DVD is better, but, honestly, do we need that added definition to watch a toon?, Now what they are doing, is marketing DVD at a higher price, and adding outtakes, and extras, that make them worth paying for....Those outtakes and extras, used to be broadcast for free, but, now they add them on to the DVD, and charge more.
I have a one hour show on the making of Roger Rabbit, that played on one of the TV networks, that today would be an add on, if it goes to DVD, or has it?
I have cassettes, should I throw them away, because CDs are supposed to be so much better? I have often heard that it it's not necessarily the tape, but if the equipment that the tape is played on is of good quality, and is clean;you can get excellent results. An interesting thread. ps. I do not have any 8 tracks, (missed that one) but do have some records.
kid_flash
08-28-2001, 12:37 PM
I ahve TONS of VHS tapes still lying around, and I do watch them (especially recorded episodes of BTAS, TNBA, STAS, and BB). But I will always say that DVD is better. I don't know about sound, but the picture quality is far better, and you can notice it if you watch the VHS of a movie, then throw in the DVD. Also, a lot of the extra features are exclusive to the DVD only.
I remember when BB: ROTJ came out, and everyone said that you shouldn't buy the VHS (and get the uncut VHS instead), but that the DVD is a must-have for the animation quality and the extra features.
Calhoun07
08-28-2001, 06:54 PM
I would safely say the sound of a DVD is superior to the sound of a VHS tape. If it is 2.0 stereo, it may not be that much better, but when you get 5.1 surround sound...ohhhhh, yeah. My neighbors have never complained when I watched a VHS tape or a TV show, but when I put in a DVD and forget to turn the volume down, watch out.
Yeah, I still have my VCR too. And a cassette recorder, but I use both primarily for personal recording and play back. I don't buy store bought cassette tapes of music, and I don't buy or rent VHS tapes anymore. Maybe it is the equipment, I don't know. I have a 2 head VCR, so it isn't top of the line. I suppose if you have a better VCR you get a good picture, too, but the thing I hate about older tapes I have is that they tend to start to bend at the top, color drop outs, lines showing up in the tape where it looks like it gets slightly wrinkled, tracking problems, all these problems are null and void with DVD. To each their own for what format you prefer to watch, but I just don't miss the problems with my old tapes on VHS.
Originally posted by calhoun07
I would safely say the sound of a DVD is superior to the sound of a VHS tape. If it is 2.0 stereo, it may not be that much better, but when you get 5.1 surround sound...ohhhhh, yeah. My neighbors have never complained when I watched a VHS tape or a TV show, but when I put in a DVD and forget to turn the volume down, watch out.
Yeah, I still have my VCR too. And a cassette recorder, but I use both primarily for personal recording and play back. I don't buy store bought cassette tapes of music, and I don't buy or rent VHS tapes anymore. Maybe it is the equipment, I don't know. I have a 2 head VCR, so it isn't top of the line. I suppose if you have a better VCR you get a good picture, too, but the thing I hate about older tapes I have is that they tend to start to bend at the top, color drop outs, lines showing up in the tape where it looks like it gets slightly wrinkled, tracking problems, all these problems are null and void with DVD. To each their own for what format you prefer to watch, but I just don't miss the problems with my old tapes on VHS. Thank you for the info, I guess I will add DVD to the list. You have posted a number of excellent ideas, and I appreciate them.
James Harvey
08-29-2001, 03:43 PM
DVD is great. MOTP is almost a whole new movie on the format, especially in widescreen which just blows me away. Sure, you don't really miss anything in the PS MOTP, but the widescreen is just so fabulous looking. The sounds, the quality. I have stereo surround sound and it is amazing. They did a great job mixing it onto DVD.
kid_flash
08-30-2001, 12:08 AM
Oh yeah. I taped MOTP off CN, but bought the DVD as soon as I got a DVD player solely for the quality, which is amazingly better.
Calhoun07
08-30-2001, 11:56 AM
Sorry for the slightly off topic post here, but I wanted to post it here cuz I know there are some who have yet to get a DVD player and use the excuse that you can't record on DVD. I just saw a commercial yesterday for a DVD recorder for camcorders that looked slick. You can create your own menus and it looked pretty sweet. I don't know how much it retails for, but suffice to say, this kind of technology drops pretty quick in price as it becomes more popular.
Ok, back to the reguarlly scheduled thread.....
You know, I've never seen MOTP on pan and scan. I might have to compare the two.
James Harvey
08-30-2001, 12:24 PM
Hey Kid_flash - didja notice on the CN airing they lowered some of the dialogue, like when Alfred tells Bruce that girl is dancing on the table? I noticed that. I've had a copy of MOTP since 1993 and must've watched it a hundred times and I quickly notice and slight differances. That one jumped out at me.
James Harvey
12-05-2001, 12:54 PM
I thought I'd resurrect this post due to the new interest in these DTV projects. So - let's continue shall we?
The Guard
12-05-2001, 01:23 PM
Dick...I read the first post of this...is this stuff still planned?
James Harvey
12-05-2001, 01:28 PM
Dini and Burnett have submitted the scripts and a confirmation of them being greenlight should appear soon. Then again, these could have been greenlit under the radar. But as far as I now, these DTVs should be happening.
The Game
12-05-2001, 03:52 PM
So wait... One of these projects is confirmed to be B:TAS style? As in Joker has red lips, Batman's emblem is yellow, Catwoman doesn't look unrealsitic, and Riddler doesn't look like a total freak? This is the best news I've heard in a while.
Does anyone know any possible plots or release dates for any of the DTVs?
iKlEiTlH
12-06-2001, 12:35 AM
Hey dG, I was wondering if any production companies are still going to produce shows the old way, ie: actually drawing/coloring the cells themselves without using computers?
I always felt that the new style was a little "off" due to details like lines and outlines being too noticeable.
I know it's probably a lot cheaper using computers to create the cells, but the old way looked a lot better IMO.
With the talk of these new DTV's, I can only hope they'll do it in the traditional manner, but that seems pretty bleak.
Are animation companies everywhere changing to computers?
I've noticed nearly all cartoons out right now(at least the newer ones) are in the new style.
The picture does seem sharper now than before, but I dunno...
I'd rather have it done the old way...
James Harvey
12-06-2001, 05:44 PM
Dini said that one of these will be in the old BTAS style - which I think is just awesome!! Unfortunatly, these will likely be computer colored. I miss the look that tradional background/coliring look as well. The computer coloring just doesn't seem right at times. So, we'll get the classic style, but with the new computer coloring antiques...
DisneyBoy
12-06-2001, 10:47 PM
Is there any news about these DTVs? I believe your report, DG, but it's been a while since we've heard anything. Sure they've been green-lighted, but with Timm and co. doing Justice League, and a rumoured Dini/Timm split/creative difference (I don't know) of some kind, how on earth will these ever get made?
To me, this whole situation is like when I say to my friends "Let's get together this weekend!" and they all agree. But, when you call, you either speak to their parents, the answering machines, or if you're lucky, find out that they're busy!
Basically, is it like a yes, with a not-too-likely-to-happen string attached on to it?
iKlEiTlH
12-07-2001, 12:58 AM
dG: Yeah, I always felt the traditional cel-painting resulted in a better overall look.
For a long time I didn't even know wTF had happened...
I think it was around the end of the second BB season that I began to notice how the show just looked a little "off."
Oh well...
I guess this is the future of cel-animation...
James Harvey
12-07-2001, 01:47 PM
Bruce Timm isn't involved in these DTVs, like how he wasn't involved with SUB-ZERO. These DTVs are basically spearheaded by Burnett and Dini. I recently talk to someone involved weith these DTVs and all they're waiting for is the final go ahead. That was a few weeks ago, though, so things could have changed. I'll try and get updated on this ASAP.
As for traditional cel animation...I'll miss it, too. I really liked the authentic harsh look it gave, You could instantly notice the differance in Batman Beyond from one episode to the next and it looked ugly at times.
Poison Carley
12-07-2001, 01:59 PM
I really wish they would do an Ivy direct to DVD movie. That would be so awesome. Like Joker has been used enough and so has Freeze. Once is enough for him! :)
Calhoun07
12-07-2001, 02:19 PM
Poison Ivy certainly has alot of untapped potential that they could use in a DTV. I think she is perhaps Batman's most formidable female villian.
I wouldn't mind seeing a Vigilante story in a Batman DTV either. I think his personality would clash with Batman at first but if they learned to work together, the story would be quite interesting.
And how about if Batman match wits with Detective Chimp! (just kidding)
Poison Carley
12-07-2001, 02:44 PM
They would probably use Catwoman before they would use Ivy though. I really hate Catwoman!
Calhoun07
12-07-2001, 02:59 PM
Hmmm...I wish I could help you with the archived episodes, but I don't think I can. :(
But I will work on that animated avatar if you'd like!
Bobby Boy 101
12-07-2001, 04:45 PM
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CATWOMAN IS AWSOME!!!!!
SHE'S THE ONE WHO DESERVES THE DTV MOVIE, NOT FRIGGIN POISON IVY!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!
sry, everybody has their own opinions!
Calhoun07
12-07-2001, 06:38 PM
Catwoman is awesome, but in a chick fight, who would win? Catwoman or Poison Ivy? My money is on Poison Ivy!
James Harvey
12-07-2001, 07:15 PM
Well - Poison Ivy could be possible. There was a Batman/Green Arrow story called "Poison Tomorrow" (I think) that featured Ivy as the villian. That could be a good basis for a DTV.
Chick fights...boring....
I think Ra's Al Ghul would be perfect for a DTV. He is a HUGE Batman villian and would perfectly fit in a huge movie type enviroment.
The Game
12-07-2001, 07:49 PM
Chick fights.... Boring? Sorry, I think not.
I think that any B:TAS villain could support their own DTV. There are few villains who are really boring or one-dimensional. Freeze is the only one off the list because he's already been done. I still think that Joker's origins would be cool, but he has been done ALOT. Honestly, I think that a Catwoman DTV would be great. They can REALLY explore the Bruce-Selina relationship like they weren't able to in the series. Poison Ivy would be a good selection also. Both of them are among my favorite villains. Riddler has also not been fully explored character-wise. His few episodes have been good, but he's one of Batman's marquee villains could make a great DTV.
Edited to reflect split in thread.
Naraht
12-07-2001, 07:57 PM
What about an animated version of Knightfall...except, who would fill in for Bats...Dick is way to nice to be an evil Batman.
James Harvey
12-07-2001, 08:05 PM
This is just my opinion, but having a BTAS DTV dedicated to just a chick fight is insulting to BTAS/TNBA/the entire animated Batman mythos, I believe. B:TAS is more than just two chicks duking it out. But that's only my opinion. I'd like to see a dark, intense dramatic movie. Not just a hero VS villian movie. I would LOVE to see a Batman VS Riddler story. IMagine the mind games Riddler could play. I would really like to see that. I think Riddler got the shaft in the long run, and they could really make an interesting story out of this.
Calhoun07
12-07-2001, 08:07 PM
It doesn't have to be dedicated to such a topic, but a fight scene would be kinda nice.
Maxie Zeus
12-07-2001, 09:38 PM
Yeah, nothin' wrong with a chick fight on the side, like the one between Mercy Graves and Harley in "World's Finest." :D
The Game
12-07-2001, 11:20 PM
Exactly. I in no way meant to indicate that a DTV should be dedicated to chick fights- I'm just saying they're a good element to add to B:TAS. As I've already said, a Riddler DTV would be sweet.
D-Mono
12-08-2001, 10:37 AM
I'm with Dick - I'd love to see an animated Riddler movie. He only really had one really good episode; "Riddler's Reform". His TNBA appearances were even worse than TAS, only making cameos and saying a few lines in "Knight Time" with what sounded like a slightly different accent. I'd also love to see the Mad Hatter take over Gotham or something, but that's just my vision of a frabjous day. ;)
D-Mono.
There is discussion on DTVs here. I am sorry, I do not know what that abbreviation means? Could someone please explain, I would like to know, something to buy? thank you ;)
Joe Tully
12-08-2001, 12:39 PM
It means direct-to-video, meaning that the episode will be released on video first and probably won't be shown on TV or in movie theaters.
I say probably because some DTVs such as the recent Scooby Doo ones and Sub-Zero have been shown on TV on occasion. DTVs are planned as only video releases, but sometimes they will show up on TV too.
James Harvey
12-08-2001, 12:58 PM
Sub-Zero and Scooby-Doo & The Cyber Chase are DTVs. Joe Tully explains it all for ya!
A good thing about these DTVs is that the production value will be higher. The animation will be better than usual and the budget will be a bit bigger. Hopefully they'll use the bigger budget to get TMS to do the animation, and not use the extra cash for CGI effects.
Maxie Zeus
12-08-2001, 02:24 PM
If you're looking for the discussion of Poison Ivy vs. Catwoman, I split that off into its own thread, and made a few edits in posts to reflect the change.
JusticeLeagueLegion
12-08-2001, 07:13 PM
I think an animated Batman movie with Hitman would be ausome, especially if Batman was the target!!
James Harvey
12-09-2001, 08:22 PM
Hitman would be cool - at least for a cameo? Read his story in BATMAN CHRONICLES? I thought it was pretty wicked. I really wanna see the Batman/Green Arrow DTV go down. Kevin SMith has greatly renewed my interest in Green Arrow and I would love to see an animated version of him.
Originally posted by Joe Tully
It means direct-to-video, meaning that the episode will be released on video first and probably won't be shown on TV or in movie theaters.
I say probably because some DTVs such as the recent Scooby Doo ones and Sub-Zero have been shown on TV on occasion. DTVs are planned as only video releases, but sometimes they will show up on TV too.
Thank you for clearing me up on this point...I appreciate it. Stuart
JusticeLeagueLegion
12-10-2001, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Hitman would be cool - at least for a cameo? Read his story in BATMAN CHRONICLES? I thought it was pretty wicked. I really wanna see the Batman/Green Arrow DTV go down. Kevin SMith has greatly renewed my interest in Green Arrow and I would love to see an animated version of him.
There's gonna be a Batman/Green Arrow DTV?! When!?
James Harvey
12-10-2001, 10:48 PM
The Batman/Green Arrow DTV is one of the rumored DTVs be produced under Paul Dini and Alan Burnett.
JusticeLeagueLegion
12-10-2001, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
The Batman/Green Arrow DTV is one of the rumored DTVs be produced under Paul Dini and Alan Burnett.
But will it be Olliver Queen, or Conner Hawke?
batwing53
12-10-2001, 11:16 PM
They should have the storylines Knightfall (featuring also KnightsQuest and KnightsEnd) on one video, then on the other Contagion + maybe Legacy, and on the other Cataclysm + No Man's Land. That'yd be great. But I also want more stories, like maybe some good Batman stories form LOTDK--"Hothouse" with Poison Ivy, "Masks"........ :confused:
James Harvey
12-10-2001, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by JusticeLeagueLegion
But will it be Olliver Queen, or Conner Hawke?
Likely Oliver Queen. I here some of the people on the crew have an affinity for the original, true, Green Arrow.
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Sub-Zero and Scooby-Doo & The Cyber Chase are DTVs. Joe Tully explains it all for ya!
A good thing about these DTVs is that the production value will be higher. The animation will be better than usual and the budget will be a bit bigger. Hopefully they'll use the bigger budget to get TMS to do the animation, and not use the extra cash for CGI effects.
I do remember seeing Sub Zero once on TV, it did have much better than average animation, and in my opinion, a very good story line....a sence of hope for our friend FReeze, Does anyone know where you can obtain a copy thank you Stuart
Calhoun07
12-11-2001, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by oldtoonguy
I do remember seeing Sub Zero once on TV, it did have much better than average animation, and in my opinion, a very good story line....a sence of hope for our friend FReeze, Does anyone know where you can obtain a copy thank you Stuart
It will be out on the real format later next year, but if you can't wait and want to get the other version, you can find it here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000022TS5/qid=1008090465/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_15_8/107-4623730-4647748)
James Harvey
12-11-2001, 12:27 PM
Sub-Zero should be readily available at your local K-Mart or Wal-Mart or any movie store. I still see a copy of the movie quite frequently.
As for those DTVs, they are still waiting for approval...
Sugar Daddy
12-11-2001, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07
It will be out on the real format later next year
whats the real format?
Calhoun07
12-11-2001, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by lasportsbiggie
whats the real format?
Why, DVD, of course! :D ;)
Sugar Daddy
12-11-2001, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07
Why, DVD, of course! :D ;)
makes sense, cant wait
Originally posted by calhoun07
It will be out on the real format later next year, but if you can't wait and want to get the other version, you can find it here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000022TS5/qid=1008090465/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_15_8/107-4623730-4647748)
Thank you for info and link, DVD here we come......Stuart
James Harvey
12-13-2001, 05:41 PM
Just an update - the scripts are currently being "processed" by the higher ups at WB so it may be a little while until we find out whether or not these are 100% go or not.
Sugar Daddy
12-13-2001, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Just an update - the scripts are currently being "processed" by the higher ups at WB so it may be a little while until we find out whether or not these are 100% go or not.
that sucks
Maxie Zeus
12-13-2001, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Just an update - the scripts are currently being "processed" by the higher ups at WB so it may be a little while until we find out whether or not these are 100% go or not.
"Processed"? You mean like when Oscar Meyer makes luncheon meats?
Sugar Daddy
12-13-2001, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
"Processed"? You mean like when Oscar Meyer makes luncheon meats?
lol
James Harvey
12-14-2001, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
"Processed"? You mean like when Oscar Meyer makes luncheon meats?
They'll prpobably be torn to bits, too...
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
They'll prpobably be torn to bits, too...
Hared to believe that this is a decendent of the same company that made Casablanca, Bugs Bunny, and Daffy Duck. Maybe the higher ups have gone "Daffy" No insult to Daffy of course. Stuart
JBugle
12-14-2001, 03:28 PM
I pray to God that we don't have another Return of the Joker on our hands!
Originally posted by JBugle
I pray to God that we don't have another Return of the Joker on our hands!
Not a chance, what they have done at Kids WB ,aint no joke
Stuart
The Mad Hatter
12-14-2001, 04:22 PM
Processed. Yikes. Considering all the Spam KWB puts out on a regular basis, this makes me worry...
But thanks for the update!
James Harvey
12-14-2001, 06:02 PM
I think we should be in the clear becuase Batman isn't a "KWB" property anymore, it airs on CN. This just may help the movie survive in one peice.
Sugar Daddy
12-14-2001, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
I think we should be in the clear becuase Batman isn't a "KWB" property anymore, it airs on CN. This just may help the movie survive in one peice.
isnt it just wb, not kwb?
The Mad Hatter
12-14-2001, 07:55 PM
*smacks head*
Badmouthing KWB has been so easy to do, it's become a reflex action. Well, HOPEFULLY nothing bad will happen, but we'll see...
Originally posted by Dick Grayson
I think we should be in the clear becuase Batman isn't a "KWB" property anymore, it airs on CN. This just may help the movie survive in one peice.
Is CN part of AOL-Time Warner? If so, we are just dealing with another head of the monster. If not, I stand corrected. Please let me know if I am wrong. AOL's whole philosophy is to make money at "any" cost. The way they market their internet service, which I am sure some of us have, is totally unethical, and almost, I repeat almost,crooked. Just above the line sort to speak. I do not know about the CN, I don't have cable, but if it is the "cartoon network" then that is still Time-Warner. Now occasionally, someone in a certain postion, which for some reason unkown, is able to overcome corporate ethics, and puts out quality.... At Fox, when BATS was made, that project, was meant to headline the afternoon kids shows across the country. It was greenlighted as a top priority, with top quality people, at all levels. I am not sure AOL-Time, Warner has the same motivation, and desire for quality that Fox did in the original series. If this project gets through intact, as a quality work, it will be our gain, and I think somehow ,a piece of luck It would be really great to see new eps of BATS and whatever else they come up with. I am eagerly waiting along with everyone else...BATS was probably the greatest cartoon series that ever was produced just for TV.
JBugle
12-15-2001, 01:17 PM
In short, yes, it is.
James Harvey
12-15-2001, 03:27 PM
While KWB/WB and CN are owned by AOL Time Warner, they are different fractions of AOLTW, meaning they they have different department heads (you could call them). They make seperate decisions and invoke seperate set sof standards and rules.
Maxie Zeus
12-15-2001, 04:07 PM
Steve Case does not have his mitts in every single part of AOL-TW. So even though CN and WB are part of the same entity, nothing follows from that fact. Heck, DC Comics itself is a direct subsidiary of Warner Bros.
CN is part of Time Warner, and Dick has said . it has a different department head, who might make decisions in way favorable to the animation fan...I hope so. But these huge corporate structures have mind sets sort to speak...I noticed a change in the quality of the BATS made for Fox, and the BATS produced by WB. Even then, ,.almost immediately, the quality of the later BATS, wasn't up to the quality of earlier efforts...Now that comes with a series running itself out. maybe....or a desire to save money.
I used to follow the "Disney Company" very carefully, and Eisner's cheapness, funneled down into how much paid time, a costume character was to get paid to put on the Goofy or MIcky Suit at Disneyland. Eisner wanted that section of the contract deleted, which paid the actors money to put on the suit, as opposed to a new contract, which would pay them only from the time they got to the place, where they would meet guests...Disney lost the "binding arbitration", and was going to "appeal" in court. I mention this because a corporate "mind set" filters far down...I pray, that the new BATS eps, are really good, or not just some rip off to make a lot of money off of us fans. And that the department head in charge is on "our side"....thanks for reading this, I know corporate politics sound rotten, but these new BATS mean a lot to all of us...and I don't want some jerk to ruin them for us..
The Mad Hatter
12-17-2001, 06:41 PM
Hey, there's hope yet... look what DG just posted on the news page!
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14718
Joker Jr
12-19-2001, 01:55 PM
Will these DTVs be on DVD as well?
Also does anybody know if they will come to England?
James Harvey
12-19-2001, 02:12 PM
The DTVs will definatly go to DVD, since DVD is quickly ecipsing the dinosaur that is VHS. As for them coming to England...well...probably. It's WB's decision if they want the movies to go international and they probably will. They usually do. But don't start holding your breathe. It may be awhile.
peterparker05
03-16-2002, 01:40 PM
I know I'm bumping this really old thread, but I was wondering if anyone had heard any new news or rumors on this subject.
James Harvey
03-16-2002, 01:49 PM
There has been no new news for quite sometime.
JohnStewart-GL
03-16-2002, 04:50 PM
sounds good.
Sugar Daddy
03-17-2002, 02:16 AM
Make these DTVs!!!!!!!
JusticeLeagueLegion
03-17-2002, 08:41 PM
I almost forgot about the upcoming Batman films.
Batgirl Beyond
03-18-2002, 04:58 PM
So WB/KidsWB has given up on Batman Beyond DTVs/New episodes. What about CN, have they given up on BB too?
The Mad Hatter
03-18-2002, 07:16 PM
Yep. See the related thread that's up now.
Koggit
03-18-2002, 08:22 PM
A DTV is like an OAV/OVA?
Excuse my newbiness...
oranthal
03-18-2002, 10:01 PM
yup, that is basically it. the OVA's of anime usually have better animation than their TV anime. i don't know if it is same here in the states.
Originally posted by Koggit
A DTV is like an OAV/OVA?
Excuse my newbiness...
Joe Wagner
03-19-2002, 10:21 AM
Since three stories have apparently been done and are on the way to being green-lit, what can we expect the stories to be on these?
-Joe!
JusticeLeagueLegion
03-19-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by jjwspider
Since three stories have apparently been done and are on the way to being green-lit, what can we expect the stories to be on these?
-Joe!
I don't have a clue...good question though.
Grimlock
09-11-2004, 12:37 AM
First of all, please realize this is a reply to a very old thread, so no, Dini has not recently comfirmed any DTVs that i know of.
Second of all, why am i bringing this up, you ask? Well i just watched the ROTJ commentary for the first time (yeah, i've been uh...busy :)), so i was trying to dig up some old threads on the movie, and this one came up.
Third of all (and the reason for this post), anyone know whatever happened to these??? Obviously Mystery of the batwoman got made...but considering these DTVs sounded pretty certain, i was just wondering why they got canned.
swarlock
09-11-2004, 01:47 AM
All I can say is "sweet!"
Batman Beyond wasn't too bad. At least Bruce Wayne was still in the picture.
Terminatah
09-11-2004, 01:57 AM
First of all, please realize this is a reply to a very old thread, so no, Dini has not recently comfirmed any DTVs that i know of.
Second of all, why am i bringing this up, you ask? Well i just watched the ROTJ commentary for the first time (yeah, i've been uh...busy :)), so i was trying to dig up some old threads on the movie, and this one came up.
Third of all (and the reason for this post), anyone know whatever happened to these??? Obviously Mystery of the batwoman got made...but considering these DTVs sounded pretty certain, i was just wondering why they got canned.I think this thread is probably going to get locked. Already the first person to post after you thinks it's new. What you should have done is start a new thread asking whatever happened to the Batman DTVs. At most, you could've even linked to this. But they don't like it when you resurrect old threads.
It leads to panic.
-Terminatah
Squall
09-11-2004, 05:14 AM
As mush as I love Batman, he's had enough DTVs... it's someone else's turn! I want a Superman DTV, or a Wonder Woman DTV, or an Aquaman DTV, or a Green Lantern Corps DTV, or a JL/JLU DTV! :D
But they don't like it when you resurrect old threads...Why? As long as it's listed, isn't it technically still "alive"?
It leads to panic.How?
:confused:
Batman's Biggest Fan
09-11-2004, 08:50 AM
^Who cares who gets the next DTV I just want more. Since there's that Super teamups one and MOTB what is the third one?
Mysteryinfoman
09-11-2004, 09:33 AM
I want a JL one, which nothing said was put aside for now or a Superman one, that would be cool.
Phantasm
09-11-2004, 09:41 AM
At least three more direct to video Batman fims are in the works, ranging from BTAS style to TNBA style to JL style! Dini confirmed this as well as uncut ROTJ may be released, at the Wizard comic con! Is this great or what? Something for all the Bat fans!!
OMG!!!!!!!!
THIS IS SPECTACULAR!!!!!!!!!
ABSOLUTELEY MADE MY DAY!!!!!!!
MORE BATSY!!!!!!!!YEY!!!!!!!:D
Phantasm
09-11-2004, 09:44 AM
As mush as I love Batman, he's had enough DTVs... it's someone else's turn! I want a Superman DTV, or a Wonder Woman DTV, or an Aquaman DTV, or a Green Lantern Corps DTV, or a JL/JLU DTV! :D
oh come COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't be such a spoil sport!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
Batman's Biggest Fan
09-11-2004, 11:23 AM
I think they're going to tie these two DTVs in with Batman Begins. At least that's what I'm guessing, WB would be stupid not to cash in on all the Batcraze.
James Harvey
09-11-2004, 11:23 AM
If people plan to keep replying, please take this into account:
This thread was started over three years ago. The news posted in the first thread, on August 18th, 2001, is outdated. Alot has happened since then, including the release of Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman. The outdated aspect of the reporting should be incredibly obvious when one of the statements claim "the uncut Batman Beryond: Return of the Joker may be released." That happened over two years ago.
This report is pretty much void.
Batman's Biggest Fan
09-11-2004, 11:26 AM
^I did notice that, but the only answer I can think of is that they'll want these to go with "Batman Begins" that'd be the wise thing to do.
Grimlock
09-11-2004, 11:53 AM
If people plan to keep replying, please take this into account:
This thread was started over three years ago. The news posted in the first thread, on August 18th, 2001, is outdated. Alot has happened since then, including the release of Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman. The outdated aspect of the reporting should be incredibly obvious when one of the statements claim "the uncut Batman Beryond: Return of the Joker may be released." That happened over two years ago.
This report is pretty much void.
Sorry, jim, i probably should have created a new thread asking about these, apparently a lot of people are confused despite my disclaimer at the top of my post :).
Anyway, since you were the one who originally posted the news, do you have any idea why some of these were canceled?
Xtreme
09-11-2004, 05:43 PM
I got confused.
SilverKnight
09-11-2004, 07:09 PM
>sigh< That was so totally unfair; this thread got some miniscule hopes up and then WHAM! Here I find out this is a three year old thread that got bumped for no real reason. Bad form. Seriously.
Oh, and by the way, if you're going to bump a thread, make sure you bump it for some other reason than to say, 'Dude, what happened to all of these?' Sigh. This sucks. >sneezes and ambles off<
Phantasm
09-11-2004, 07:11 PM
>sigh< That was so totally unfair; this thread got some miniscule hopes up and then WHAM! Here I find out this is a three year old thread that got bumped for no real reason. Bad form. Seriously.
Oh, and by the way, if you're going to bump a thread, make sure you bump it for some other reason than to say, 'Dude, what happened to all of these?' Sigh. This sucks.
OOOH MAN!!!!!
So all this isn't true?
There won't be any more Timm Batman movies?!:eek: :sad:
SilverKnight
09-11-2004, 07:16 PM
OOOH MAN!!!!!
So all this isn't true?
There won't be any more Timm Batman movies?!:eek: :sad:Um, Phantasm, did ya check the dates for any of these things? And the post that Jim Harvey made, specifically saying this thread was three years old? Yeah. I don't think there will be any more. Or, at least, a lot of DTVs that were slated have been cancelled/shelved/whatever. I'm guessing, anyway.
So, yeah. Three year old thread. No new DTVs. Suckage. >sniffle< Right. >disappears<
Bird Boy
09-11-2004, 07:17 PM
All right, apparently this is just causing too much confusion. I'm closing it.
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