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Colin
08-12-2002, 02:41 PM
This is something the staff & I wanted to throw out to the masses...

As I'm sure you are all well aware, Toon Zone celebrates it's 4th birthday this month! One of the suggestions to celebrate the event made by the staff was to have a Delaney Poll with TZ Staff Members on it and John would draw a caricature of said staff member.

Was just wondering what you guys think of the idea? Yay? Nay?

Wolverine1
08-12-2002, 02:49 PM
Yeah I think you should you have done all this hard work atleast one of ya should be sketch into paper :p Just I hope the losers don't take it seriously :p

I_am_scifi
08-12-2002, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Colin
This is something the staff & I wanted to throw out to the masses...

As I'm sure you are all well aware, Toon Zone celebrates it's 4th birthday this month! One of the suggestions to celebrate the event made by the staff was to have a Delaney Poll with TZ Staff Members on it and John would draw a caricature of said staff member.

Was just wondering what you guys think of the idea? Yay? Nay?

Sounds good to me man. You guys deserve it, for all the hard work you put into this site day in and day out.

~I_am_scifi
"SPOON!!!"

Green-Ghost
08-12-2002, 03:07 PM
I think it would be very interresting and funny :D

Jor-El
08-12-2002, 03:32 PM
Would this be "Sketch of the Week #34" or would this be a side project?

Reed Richards
08-12-2002, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Barry Allen
Would this be "Sketch of the Week #34" or would this be a side project?


i would really hope a side project

we've had quite a few "theme" polls lately

if they do this as a main one, i think it should be much later down the road

Colin
08-12-2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Reed Richards



i would really hope a side project

we've had quite a few "theme" polls lately

if they do this as a main one, i think it should be much later down the road

It may or may not be #34... but it will very much be a real poll, not a "Side project" as you have nicely put it.

Jor-El
08-12-2002, 04:05 PM
Oh. Then my vote is definitely no. A huge, resounding "No."

No offense guys, but I don't even know any of you mods. And when I think about the dozens upon dozens of comic book characters I want to see John draw, I can say with 100% certainty that I don't want to waste a sketch and an entire week seeing which perfect stranger I want to see John draw.

Sorry

Reed Richards
08-12-2002, 04:07 PM
just as a question

is this poll binding?

Ed Liu
08-12-2002, 04:24 PM
Howdy,

Hey, I figure it's your site and your poll, so you can do anything you want. However, based on the photos I've seen of the staff and mods so far, I think you're fooling yourself if you think anybody other than Barb Gordon will win the poll (especially if she's in her Bat-bikini) :eek: :o :p :D.

Personally, I'd be hugely disappointed if Jim Harvey doesn't actually look like the Dick Grayson avatar he uses :).

-- Ed/Ace

Colin
08-12-2002, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Reed Richards
just as a question

is this poll binding?

Whether or not we do this poll will be up to you guys... Stafff & John are currently excited to do the poll, but we won't if you guys don't want it.

The Flash
08-12-2002, 04:54 PM
My vote? No. I don't think it's needed. As a side project would be okay, but I think the posters deserve some more TV and comic characters... :)

James
08-12-2002, 05:02 PM
LOL. I must say that BOTH Flashes (The Flash and Barry Allen) ahve summed up both my concerns.

As a side project fine - that's cool, if John is okay with double shifts ;) , but my main concerns is with Barry's point. Does it interest you? Do you know who all the mods are? You may not be bothered with the crew. I doubt most of you know who I am and what I moderate ;) (not that I'm taking part in the poll so it doesn't really matter :D )

Especially when John is making the effort, it would be nice to know whether there is full support or not, so IMO it is important you voice your opinion so Colin knows whether it's a worthwhile venture for John to spend his time on!

It's up to you lot. I think it's a wonderful offer of John's to do something so TZ specific - especially on it's birthday, at the same time it's up to you lot, the people who make this place special whether it holds relevance to you!

Storm
08-12-2002, 06:22 PM
one word:

NO

BLACKHEART
08-12-2002, 06:40 PM
I agree with Storm. I remember when I made a joke post and said "Fred Durst" I was stoned and told these polls would be for cartoon characters only

Besides nothing good would come of this poll. It would become a popularity contest. Would you vote against Jim Harvey?

Then it comes down to other people who will have the attitude "Why can't I John sketch me? Why just a staff TZ member?"

Then there's the others here who will have the attitude "Why should I bother voting in this? I want Supergirl!"

The Flash
08-12-2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
Would you vote against Jim Harvey?

Actually, if it happens, Jim isn't gunna be in it. I'm not gunna be in it, SJJ isn't, there's others that arn't aswell...

BLACKHEART
08-12-2002, 06:48 PM
Well that doesn't make sense since Harvey is Mr. Tooznone. If anyone was sketched it should be him.

At any rate I say no :)

Colin
08-12-2002, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
Well that doesn't make sense since Harvey is Mr. Tooznone. If anyone was sketched it should be him.

At any rate I say no :)


No offense to Jim, but if you see him as "Mr. Toon Zone" you obviously haven't looked around Toon Zone and taken a look at the many people who work to bring everything to you. Believe it or not, there are people who do just as much, or even more work than Jim...

Chris Sanders MSX
08-12-2002, 07:29 PM
That's true but it's just the way things are precieved. Jim is kinda like the front man of this place, sorta like a band.

I don't see it this way but in the back of my head that's just the way it is.

Colin
08-12-2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Chris Sanders MSX
That's true but it's just the way things are precieved. Jim is kinda like the front man of this place, sorta like a band.

I don't see it this way but in the back of my head that's just the way it is.

May I ask why people see it that way? It's not because he has over 10,000 MB posts is it? That's the only reason I can really think of that he would be percieved as that...

James
08-12-2002, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Colin


May I ask why people see it that way? It's not because he has over 10,000 MB posts is it? That's the only reason I can really think of that he would be percieved as that...

Simply high profile. When I just posted here, it was Jim (or Dick as it was then) who was always there. He openly dealt with issues and offered reports and info. I didn't know the admin set up then, and it was Jim (and a little later Maxie) who I noticed and saw as major influences on WF and TZ.

I think the mix of constant and varied reports both in news and the boards as well as his method of moding has made him prolific and popular. Whether he likes it or not!

In the end, with 10,000 posts, people will invariably associate Jim with TZ. I think he's an asset to the board for these reasons. Sorry, a bit OT here! :)

Colin
08-12-2002, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by SJJ


Simply high profile. When I just posted here, it was Jim (or Dick as it was then) who was always there. He openly dealt with issues and offered reports and info. I didn't know the admin set up then, and it was Jim (and a little later Maxie) who I noticed and saw as major influences on WF and TZ.

I think the mix of constant and varied reports both in news and the boards as well as his method of moding has made him prolific and popular. Whether he likes it or not!

In the end, with 10,000 posts, people will invariably associate Jim with TZ. I think he's an asset to the board for these reasons. Sorry, a bit OT here! :)

However, the message boards are not what make Toon Zone... There are countless people who put in extremely hard work on the site that don't have astronomical post counts... It's the rest of the site that has made Toon Zone what it is, the boards accentuate it and provide a central meeting ground, but without the rest of the site, there's no message boards... It's the people who put in the hours of work on the rest of the site are the true "Mr. & Mrs. Toon Zones" regardless of whether they have 10 posts or 10,000...

Everyone brings something to the plate, but it is VERY unfair to place someone in such high regard because of one or two aspects of the entire site, when the entire site is a wide variety of information and skills being present.

Like I said, no offense to Jim, but when I think of people who do a lot for Toon Zone, I think of the people who do the behind the scenes work to keep the site running, rather then the people who constantly stay in the spotlight.

The Flash
08-12-2002, 08:00 PM
Adding onto what SJJ said: ...Not to mention how much work Jim does. And sorry to everybody else, but Jim seems to do about the most. The guy does a lot. That's not to say others don't, but he sure as hell does, and you can't take that from him! When you have as many news reports, posts, and interviews as he's had, people are going to view him like he's viewed. Not to mention his website which is hosted at TZ... ;)

Storm
08-12-2002, 08:10 PM
I have to agree with SJJ and Flash. When I first arrived here at TZ I didn't know anyone. Then I ment other posers including Jim Harvey and me Jim and I have nice talk once and a while with AIM. When I look at TZ Jim Harvey comes to my mind. He like the boss man of this site. I'm not saying that other MODs don't work hard on TZ I'm just saying my opinion. I hope I didn't offend anybody esspecially the MODs.

- Storm

James
08-12-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Colin


However, the message boards are not what make Toon Zone... There are countless people who put in extremely hard work on the site that don't have astronomical post counts... It's the rest of the site that has made Toon Zone what it is, the boards accentuate it and provide a central meeting ground, but without the rest of the site, there's no message boards... It's the people who put in the hours of work on the rest of the site are the true "Mr. & Mrs. Toon Zones" regardless of whether they have 10 posts or 10,000...

Everyone brings something to the plate, but it is VERY unfair to place someone in such high regard because of one or two aspects of the entire site, when the entire site is a wide variety of information and skills being present.

Like I said, no offense to Jim, but when I think of people who do a lot for Toon Zone, I think of the people who do the behind the scenes work to keep the site running, rather then the people who constantly stay in the spotlight.

I appreciate the feelings - I sympathise Colin. I know you put in the work. It's just a simple fact of life that people look to the obvious. All the admin work, maintenance and design go unnoticed - which itself is a compliment as it just shows how smoothly the show runs.

Likewise, to the average poster who just posts, they have no idea and often no interest what goes on behind the scenes or where the money comes from to support the service. Some don't even venture beyond the forums. That's there choice and sometimes maybe their loss! :) It's just how people live their lifes.

My point is that Jim puts a lot of work in and it just so happens to be visable frontline work. Like in a band, the frontman will get more exposure and attention than the songwriter, backers, musicians etc. It's not meant to be a slap on all the others who put in such hard work, it's just people being people.

They read, they post, that's what they come here for! :)

Dee
08-12-2002, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Colin
This is something the staff & I wanted to throw out to the masses...

As I'm sure you are all well aware, Toon Zone celebrates it's 4th birthday this month! One of the suggestions to celebrate the event made by the staff was to have a Delaney Poll with TZ Staff Members on it and John would draw a caricature of said staff member.

Was just wondering what you guys think of the idea? Yay? Nay?

LOL I say he does a special thing with all of you crazy guys! (hehe--- if John says he can of course)... and of course, you guys aren't crazy--- well-- maybe, but thats 4 years of crazy!

lol.

It would make a nice main page image for a while at toonzone.

What baffles me is the fact that so many people voted "no" on this. Hmm... ungrateful pack of.... OH HI EVERYBODY! hehe. j/k.

i voted yes. Hehe... I think John can at least do one of you guys if not the whole gang! (maybe take a break from a poll for a week so he can work on it or something).

John can handle anything--- CAUSE HE'S JOHN DELANEY!

*idea for next sketch--- John Delaney as SUPER JOHN---- able to sketch at the speed of light--- able to present brilliant art in a flash--- he's the greatest superhero out there--- SUPER JOHN!*

lol.

Dee
08-12-2002, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Barry Allen
Oh. Then my vote is definitely no. A huge, resounding "No."

No offense guys, but I don't even know any of you mods. And when I think about the dozens upon dozens of comic book characters I want to see John draw, I can say with 100% certainty that I don't want to waste a sketch and an entire week seeing which perfect stranger I want to see John draw.

Sorry


Man thats harsh....

If it werent for the toonzone people, we would not have john here doing this, and we wouldn't have a place to fight every week!

YOU CAN SPARE a whole poll for the folks at TZ! It's not that hard!


lol---

-Delia97
(she totally voted yes)

Dee
08-12-2002, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Colin


Whether or not we do this poll will be up to you guys... Stafff & John are currently excited to do the poll, but we won't if you guys don't want it.
Well if John wants to do it--- we have the blessing!

lol. Break free of the pattern and try something totally different for a change, peeps!

Calico
08-12-2002, 09:24 PM
I personally think it's a great idea. I'm already trying to decide who'd I'd vote for. Maxie's not a mod anymore is he? John could draw him in a toga, LOL!

Maxie Zeus
08-12-2002, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Calico
I personally think it's a great idea. I'm already trying to decide who'd I'd vote for. Maxie's not a mod anymore is he? John could draw him in a toga, LOL!

Actually, I am still and Administrator so I am eligible. (I've just been in cold storage recently.) That's why I'm helping to stuff the ballot box by voting "yes." :D

And then I read the thread. I agree with SJJ across the board. It's a wonderful idea, and it is incredibly generous of John to do offer to do this for us. But SLIPKNOT offers very cogent warnings.

Also, the "Why is everyone looking at Jim" tangent is kinda scaring me. The suggested poll isn't even up yet, and already there's a bit of tension in the air.

BLACKHEART
08-12-2002, 11:29 PM
Flash and SJJ have got some points that they made realy clear and I won't go over them again

I'm going to say this as to why I say Jim is the personification of Toon Zone. How many people has he brought to this board? The guy is high profile. The guy is everywhere. He's on this board. He's on other boards. Everyone works hard but if there was no Jim there woudln't be anyone here working hard. Would there?

Colin you are taking me the wrong way. No one is putting down your hardwork. I'm not even getting into that.

I actually don't sit around and think Jim Harvey is what makes this board run. He's not. There are people who run the server. There are people who keep the masses in control. My point is just this. If you want to pick a character that represents Toonzone then you have to pick Jim Harvey.

I'm stepping out of this debate. There's no reason to argue about who works hard and who doesn't. I've made my points. All future posts will be made to as why I don't think this poll should happen.

Just look how ugly this has gotten. Imagine what will happen if there was actual voting with a winner and a loser. It's bad karma

Barb Gordon
08-13-2002, 12:22 AM
*dances on toes* Okay, I'm just going to pop in for a quick sec to verify for those that may not have realized, but we didn't pick who would be on the list for this poll idea, it was all voluntary. It was any and all of the Crew's choice to decide if they wanted to particpate as a choice in this poll. Beside that, I can see the reasoning for both sides. Yes, some people would prefer to just see more comic/cartoon pics, who care's about some random people, right? Of course on the other hand, the Crew busts its butt around here to keep this place running so darn nice, so it would be kinda cool to have a "moment in the sun", be goofy, and have a poll for the TZ Crew. It works either way, mostly whatever the majority is happy with will be great.

~Barb

Jor-El
08-13-2002, 12:55 AM
On the subject of doing the most work at ToonZone and Jim Harvey's perceived role in the grand scheme, etc etc...

At no point in my short time actively participating on these boards did I think that I understand the half of what goes on behind the scenes here. Truth is, (no offense guys,) I don't care. All I know is that I'm not involved and I'm not especially close with anyone who is involved. All I can tell you is that this site is here and I am grateful for whatever work must go in from whoever does the work in whatever way or whatever amounts.

But the point remains, Colin and other mods, that as far as the public is concerned, (myself included!) Jim Harvey is the absolute front-runner in a poll like this. With over 10,000 posts, he's just the guy people think of, like it has been repeated several times in previous posts. He's a moderator, a reporter, deals heavily with the renowned "World's Finest" site and is ALWAYS there to weigh in on a discussion. I believe you when you say, Colin, that there are many people who do more work. I absolutely believe that. But if you are opening up the poll to the general public, Jim Harvey would very easily win. He's just the best known. If you were to have a contest like this within the privacy of the moderator community, the results may be drastically different. But while this is for all the users of the Toon Zone family, Jim Harvey will the winner. By a landslide, if you ask me. I know I'd vote for him.

But my original opinion remains: I'd much rather see the characters I've "known" for years and have loved and long to see in a Delaney sketch than see the moderators and employees of this website. It's fantastic. I love it here. But beyond the fact that it's slightly self-indulgent (I won't say "egotistical,") I'm just against it because there are hundreds of characters I'd rather see.

Sorry guys. I respect all your hard work (and I can't imagine you get any money for all the hours of work you do,) but there are other ways I would like to thank and honor you than to see your drawing by an artist who works for us for free. Still hard up for cash on these boards? I'll gladly make what donation I am able, but an entire Delaney poll to find out which is the most popular TZ staff member (not who does the most work or who is the biggest asset — the public just does not care) is unnecessary and a waste of time.

Once again, this is nothing personal. I don't want to make this a personal issue because of anything that has ever happened before or after this thread, but I'd much rather see Daredevil or the Justice Guild from the "JL" series or Captain McCallister from the Simpsons. And like another user said "Why can only mods get drawn? Why can't I?" It's just not fair.

James Harvey
08-13-2002, 02:13 AM
Well, I suppose I had to chime in sooner or later. This has become quite the heated discussion, so I guess I'll throw in my two cents.

First off, I just want to say "thanks" for the appreciation and vote of confidence. It's great to see that the work I do has a great effect on alot of people. I do put myself out there. I plug TZ and WF wherever and whenever I can. I alert other news sites and such, but that's becuase I wanna spread the word of TZ! Does it make me the boss here? Hell no! I only run part of Toon Zone. The part of Toon Zone I look after is 'World's Finest'. Like many folks on here, I got a small site to call my own. Am I the boss of 'World's Finest'? Not completely. I got two great friends by my site working to improve the site (Bird Boy and Flash - take a bow - you two deserve it). That's my section of TZ.

I'm not the big wheel here at TZ. There are so many other site's here. We have 'The Animated Batman', 'WB Archive', "The Early Years", "Rocky & Bullwinkle", "Looney Tunes & Merrie Melodies", and "Cartoon Cartoon Friday" to name a few. Yup. There is alot more to this site then just my site. And the work that goesinto these sites are astronomical. I've been able to watch some of these sites start from scratch and it is amazing the dedication that goes into this. Simply astonishing.

And these sites...I have nothing to do with. I may contribute an article or two to the other occasional site, but that's it. Each of these site's respective webmasters work their fingers to the knuckles to give you some quality stuff here. I don't think you could go these all these above sites in just one sitting. Each of these sites has alot to them, and are complex and are filled to the brim with information. Plus there's the home page "Toon Zone" which has ever more information. See? My site is not so big now in comparison, is it? :)

There are also boards here I have no part of. Granted, my name is on alot of the boards here, but that is becuase I like to help out here as much as possible. Aside from my WF Boards, I also help out on a few becuase those board topics interest me. But I'm a small cog in the wheel. Look at all the boards here! Only a handful are mine. The rest belong to the other sites here, and have varying topics. There are boards here I have nothing to do with, where the guys work just as hard as me. Hell - even harder than me! (Do yerself a favor - go visit them!)

And there's a lot of people, like Colin and Brian Cruz and Harley and Romey, who you don't see out front but who work like dogs to keep the rest of us up and running. There is so much behind the scenes activity you folks miss, and these folks put their heart, soul, and wallet into. Alot goes into this site (and the hosted sites here) that goes on behind the curtains. Every small detail is taken care of by Colin, Harley, Brian, and Romey. They even put MONEY into this place for crying out loud!. They are the REAL "Mr. Toon Zone," and it's impossible to give them all the attention the deserve. I was just lucky enough to get a section of this website to call my own. They do so much that none of you folks will ever see. I may put myself out there, but Colin, Harley, Brian, and Romey deserve all the credit for giving me something to plug. Without them, there would be none of this. Nothing at all. I would have nothing to plug if these fine folks did not start this site. (Thanks, you guys, BTW.)

With that said, not only do I not want a part in this poll for reasons which shall remain my own.

Garibaldi
08-13-2002, 11:34 AM
Ok, it seems to me that poll wise, going for a member of the staff is a bad idea, and I agree with that argument.

Rather than a poll, why not just ask Mr. Delany nicely, to sketch the Big Wigs of Toonzone in a group shot? If he was willing to go along with a special theme poll, and sketch the winner, I'm sure that having advanced notice, he would probably be willing to do a group shot.


If you want a theme poll, something that hasn't been done (to the best of my knowledge) why not a poll of Web Comic characters? You could contact the web artists, and let them know what's going on - Most are really cool about people making fan art, and you could probably convince a number of them to include links to the poll, so that the fans of the web comics would come and vote for their "entry" It would up the membership of toonzone, and introduce people to diffrent web comics, like Sluggy Freelance, Mega Tokyo, PvP, Penny Arcade, and 8-Bit theater to name a few.



BTW, There used to be a B-5 comic, so when are we gonna see Garibaldi?

Harley
08-13-2002, 01:12 PM
Well, first I wanted to say, Thanks, Jim. Means a lot. You da bomb.

Second, I wanted to say that I haven't voted in this poll. Don't believe it's my place to.

Third, I admit. I was a little upset. I was up til 3am the night before working behind the scenes... as I am most nights. But I'll get over myself.

Past that, I was looking back at Colin's wording in the initial post. And I can see why it might've been perceived as it has. So, regardless of whether it happens or not, I did want people to know the intention of the idea of the poll.... and that is, none of us is above being the butt of a joke. If it's good for a laugh, sure! Any of us can take a joke just as well as we can give. The idea of this was more of a fun thing, a la the April Fool's Poll.

I mean, take a look at my avatar. Here's the full image: http://webdesign.toonzone.net/portfolio/super-e-combo.jpg

How many folks around here are willing to promote themselves a chick who runs around wearing a fuzzy, red towel as a cape? That'd just be silly.

But, it's the same reason Brian has a picture of himself in a Viking helmet. Same reason we had him touring with The Who, playing the triangle from behind the stage, for that year he was MIA. Same reason Craig Marinaro has a conversation with himself in his bio on the staff page. All in good fun.

That's the reason we opened the idea up to you guys. Because we really didn't want to come off as huge egos on this. We just wanted this to be a fun thing. If we didn't care, we would've just gone ahead with the poll, don't you think?

I did want to assure all those not for it, that the poll will not happen unless there's more than 200 votes with over 85% in favor of it. So, like I said. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't? No big. Thank you, everyone, for your input.

John Delaney
08-13-2002, 02:54 PM
Hi Kats
I too feel the need to chime in here. Public perception and actual fact are very rarely connected, that's not a good or bad thing it simply is. Who cares that The Edge is the guy who spends the most time in the recording studio working on U2 albums it's Bono that people know and associate strongest with U2.
Everyone connected to ToonZone does a stellar job not just because of all the hours commited (and they are countless) but because they do it voluntarily. They work so hard to bring this amazing website to us all that I for one feel that they all deserve recognition and to put my money where my mouth is I volunteer to draw everyone who works for ToonZone in a group characature shot.
It will be a side project, seperate from the polls as I don't think it's fair to judge these people or their committment by a poll.
The actual poll will continue uninterrupted ( by the way this week has some really great characters to choose from) and this drawing will be posted when it's ready in celebration of ToonZone's anniversary!!

Here's to ToonZone!!
Cheers
John

Dee
08-13-2002, 03:08 PM
YYYAAYYYY!

you RULE, John! (gives art dude a big hug)

I can't wait to see how you do caricatures!


hehe, I hope that image ends up on the main page!

Reed Richards
08-13-2002, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by John Delaney
Hi Kats
I too feel the need to chime in here. Public perception and actual fact are very rarely connected, that's not a good or bad thing it simply is. Who cares that The Edge is the guy who spends the most time in the recording studio working on U2 albums it's Bono that people know and associate strongest with U2.
Everyone connected to ToonZone does a stellar job not just because of all the hours commited (and they are countless) but because they do it voluntarily. They work so hard to bring this amazing website to us all that I for one feel that they all deserve recognition and to put my money where my mouth is I volunteer to draw everyone who works for ToonZone in a group characature shot.
It will be a side project, seperate from the polls as I don't think it's fair to judge these people or their committment by a poll.
The actual poll will continue uninterrupted ( by the way this week has some really great characters to choose from) and this drawing will be posted when it's ready in celebration of ToonZone's anniversary!!

Here's to ToonZone!!
Cheers
John


cant argue with that

you da' man John!

Matt Hazuda
08-13-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by John Delaney
Hi Kats
I too feel the need to chime in here. Public perception and actual fact are very rarely connected, that's not a good or bad thing it simply is. Who cares that The Edge is the guy who spends the most time in the recording studio working on U2 albums it's Bono that people know and associate strongest with U2.
Everyone connected to ToonZone does a stellar job not just because of all the hours commited (and they are countless) but because they do it voluntarily. They work so hard to bring this amazing website to us all that I for one feel that they all deserve recognition and to put my money where my mouth is I volunteer to draw everyone who works for ToonZone in a group characature shot.
It will be a side project, seperate from the polls as I don't think it's fair to judge these people or their committment by a poll.
The actual poll will continue uninterrupted ( by the way this week has some really great characters to choose from) and this drawing will be posted when it's ready in celebration of ToonZone's anniversary!!

Here's to ToonZone!!
Cheers
John As always John, you are going out of your way to do what will undoubtly be another excellent drawing. Thank you for continuing to delight us week after week with your drawing, and keep up the superb work :cool: :)

Harley
08-13-2002, 05:10 PM
Uhm, wow. I thought perhaps by waiting a bit, I'd gather my thoughts enough to say something appropriate... but, nope. nope. I'm still speechless.

Thank you.

John Delaney
08-13-2002, 05:47 PM
No Probs E!
You kats are the tops!

Bob...SpongeBob
08-13-2002, 08:20 PM
Yes! Go for it! I think it's a really cool idea, and for those who voted "no", well, then, don't look at the sketch :D :p Just kidding. I think it's a nice idea, I hope that the majority of people vote "yes", if they don't, then I'll spend the rest of the month in my room crying my eyes out over the cruelty in the world...or just deal with it... :p And John, we've said it before, we'll say it again, you rock, and Toonzone (and all behind the scenes) rocks!

Dee
08-13-2002, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by John Delaney
No Probs E!
You kats are the tops!


John... are you going to do reasonably realistic caricatures--- something really cartoony--- something totally different--- or see what you come up with--- OR, totally suprise us?

Dark Vicious
08-13-2002, 09:50 PM
Have John Delaney pick people to be in the poll and we vote and and he sketches what he thinks we look like because my scanner doesn't work and I'm dirt poor

John Delaney
08-13-2002, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Delia97



John... are you going to do reasonably realistic caricatures--- something really cartoony--- something totally different--- or see what you come up with--- OR, totally suprise us?
Hi Delia
I think I'll do them quite cartoony and "animated" looking.
Cheers
John

Barb Gordon
08-13-2002, 11:55 PM
*pounce Mr.Delaney* Looks like a wonderful compromise. Have a little fun, great way to help celebrate TZ, and so on. You're an awesome man, thank you for being so great!

~Barb

Maxie Zeus
08-14-2002, 01:49 AM
Wow! :eek:

That has got to be the most insanely generous things I have ever heard!

Like Harley, I am absolutely speechless with gratitude!

You are amazingly cool, John!

James Harvey
08-14-2002, 04:00 PM
Wow John - that is unbearably cool of you! This is just so cool. For once I'm silenced- totally speechless with gratitude!

The Penguin
08-14-2002, 04:01 PM
:eek: Wow, John, wow. Just when I think he couldn't possibly any cooler or nicer you do something else. We are truly lucky to have you here at Toon Zone. :)

:yakko: :wakko: :dot:: "Agreed!"

Clayface
08-14-2002, 04:04 PM
Wow! John, you're incredible! That is amazingly cool of you, and we are all very thankful!

Nightflower
08-14-2002, 04:44 PM
Oh my goodness, thank you so much!

Joe Wagner
08-14-2002, 04:58 PM
John

:eek: I'm utterly and entirely speechless - this is an amazing offer and one that I know everyone on the TZ staff has been blown away by. WOW! Thanks John!

-Joe!
.....still speechless

The Flash
08-14-2002, 05:05 PM
Yowsers! I wasn't gunna participate in it, but now that the reason why I wasn't going to is now gone, I will. Gunna have to find a huge piece of paper, John! ;) We must have 50 people that work here...

Samoht
08-14-2002, 05:08 PM
yeah i think its a good idea

Matthew Williams
08-14-2002, 05:14 PM
Wow. :eek:

I might be a little new here, but I'm totally stunned. This is an absolutely nice thing to do... thank you so very much. :)

James
08-14-2002, 05:22 PM
If there was ever a time for you to run for the 'Darn Snazziest Guy In The World' award, now would be the time John.

That's so generous. I agree with Flash, it takes the contention away from the whole situation too.

Pilmedium
08-14-2002, 07:42 PM
Yes, it would be a good idea. A comic or cartoon character is drawn every week. I see no problem in losing only one regular sketch for this. :cool:

Bird Boy
08-14-2002, 08:28 PM
Wow...John, that's EXTREMELY cool of you man...wow..I don't even know what to say..that's just awesome of you man!

*sits speechless*

-BB

William C. Maune
08-14-2002, 09:16 PM
[indent]Wow! You are da man Mr. Delaney! I don't really know what to say other than that this is really, really cool!

The Guitar Slayer
08-14-2002, 10:13 PM
Thank you very much, Mr. Delaney. It was a real privelege to join up with TZ as a mod, and this is just a trippy bonus. Once again, much thanks. :)

Singin' Stray Cat
08-14-2002, 10:16 PM
Think I'll join the speechless crowd. :) Seriously, thank you very, very much, Mr. Delaney!

Nightwing
08-15-2002, 12:11 AM
See I think this is where I have a problem that I've carried all my life. I'm NOT speachless, and I could probably go on for hours. I'll try not to say much.

I'm just an old WF vet who doesn't have many ties to TZ itself as a whole, but if I were also to be on the roster for this unbelievably Christmas-miracle-like event Mr. Delaney is doing for us I would be so honored. This is WAY out of left field! John, you're so sweet it makes my teeth hurt, quite frankly. This is all just amazing.

Besides! Ya know how hard it is to find Nightwing related stuff out there in the crazy world? lol. Even when the WB store was still OPEN it was.

There really isn't anything left for me to say. You're an amazing, intelligent, caring guy, Mr. Delaney. This whole thread was something out of a Christmas special. Dark dark times and a powerfull.....force of good and kindness that just rises above it all and turns everything around......damn I'm a babbler.

Vin
08-15-2002, 12:25 AM
John, we all appreciate your offer. You are truly an extraordinary, giving person. Thank you!

Mr. Obsession
08-15-2002, 03:46 AM
John, you are officially "The Man"! :)

Viper
08-15-2002, 04:54 PM
I think it would be a fantastic and wonderful idea if Delaney could do a sketch drawing of one of the "head-honchos" here at ToonZone. If not for them, this place may never have existed in the first place. This would be a great way to kick off TZ's 4th year! I WANNA SEE IT DONE!!!!!!!!!! :D

--Viper (Happy Birthday TZ!!!!!!!!!!!)

Craig Marinaro
08-16-2002, 09:48 AM
Zowie. I think Delia had it right with her "Super John" comment. I'm just back from holiday, so I read this whole thread to date in one big gulp this morning, and I must say it looked like it was going to degenerate into one of those rare "Toon Zone gets ugly" threads. But then John comes flying to the rescue and, with the backing of his extraordinary powers and his willingness to sacrifice himself, restores order to our fair city!

I find it extraordinary that a man should feel it his duty to reward *us* for, in essence, taking advantage of him. But then, this is why we love the man, and not just the artist. If I ever have a son, I'm naming him after you! And if I have a daughter...uh...you can have first dibs on suggesting a name!

-C
I'll even name my car John! And if I become the Pope someday, I'll take the name John!

redDragon
08-20-2002, 05:10 AM
::runs in from HK:: Am I too late? That's really great of you to do something like this Mr. Delaney! Thanks a lot!

Sharklady
08-21-2002, 12:16 AM
I voted 'Yes', but with some reservations, for I rather dreaded the negative comments which might be posted about the candidates once the poll got underway. Aiming that sort of vitrol at fictional characters is bad enough, but at living, feeling people... nobody on the Toonzone staff deserves that.

But now that it seems there'll be no such potentially-impolite competition, I can look forward to this sketch with unalloyed pleasure.

Kudos to you, John, for defusing the situation with your uncommonly generous offer. :D