Poll:What other studio's cartoons would you want to see

[Nelson]

This is a poll regarding the other Hollywood Cartoon Studios and vote for the one studio you desire to see.

For example:
Paramount Pictures would include everthing from the Fleischer Studios to Famous Studios etc, etc.

And by the end of the week the studio with the most votes will be known as "The Cartoon Studio People Want To See :D

[Nelson]

I'll start off...My vote went to the one Major cartoon house that deserves to be seen by the general public, and that honor goes to....
COLUMBIA PICTURES...

I mean, who wouldn't in their right mind wouldn't want see such great but forgotten cartoon characters such as:

Krazy Kat
Scrappy
Color Raphsodies
Barney Google
The Fox And The Crow
Lil Abner

I know I would love to see these negelected cartoons for the first time :)

[Jack]

Shouldn't Columbia Pictures, UPA, and Screen Gems all go together. Columbia's cartoon studio was Screen Gems.

Jack:D

[mmv3000]

I went with Universal simply because it's been so long since I've seen the Lantz Woody Woodpeckers...

[Glenn]

I would like to see them all. I've never seen half of the old stuff.
Can't wait Nelson. And i'm almost 35yrs old. For some reason I would like to see the Columbia Studios

Glenn

[Joe Tully]

This was really tough. I voted Universal. I'd like to see a lot of that stuff, like Tex's stuff, Barber of Seville, Half-Baked Alaska, Termites from Mars...and I just miss Chilly Willy from when I was a kid. I need to see him again!

I love early Fleischer Studios, but am less crazy about their later stuff and the Famous cartoons, so I decided to eliminate that. I'd also like to see UPA stuff because it was so influential, and so I'd like to get more of a feel for their style. But I figured I like laughing most, so the vote went to Universal.

[Sveven Dvorking]

You already know what I want to see, none of them!

[Argus Sventon]

I voted for Columbia. No one ever shows the early Columbia cartoons.

[Pietro]

I voted for Columbia as well.
I have only seen three Krazy Kats
and four Mr. Magoos.

-Pietro

[mmv3000]

Originally posted by Sveven Dvorking
You already know what I want to see, none of them! Sveven, live a little....

[lislebartman]

I want to see the Columbia cartoons, any of them! Especially with their original opening titles! I really want to see:

any of the Color Rhapsodies
all of the Fox & Crow shorts
the Oscar-nominated "The Little Match Girl"
Milt Gross's anti-Hitler spoof "He Can't Make It Stick"
any of Frank Tashlin's directorial efforts @ Columbia
any sampling of the Fables & Phantasies cartoons

Note to Sveven: LIGHTEN UP, LITTLE MAN! You can't be so narrow-minded at your age!!

:cool:

[simon]

I voted for Columbia, because they are the hardest cartoons to see... And the few that I have seen were very interesting.

Simon

[Nelson]

It's great to see that the Columbia Studios has the lead, and keep check with your's truly...I might be able to grant everyone's wishes :)

STAY TUNED

[Jack]

I picked Columbia too, you'd have to go to Europe to see those cartoons, none show up on PD tapes, they were only on TV in the late 50s before VCRs, and I've had this undescribable yearning to see a Fox and Crow cartoon ever since I read the Columbia section of "Of Mice and Magic" three or four years ago. I want to see the Tashlin, Davis, Lovy, Wickersham, and Iwerks cartoons made there, as well as the cartoons Bob Clampett worked on as a uncredited story editor...


Jack:(

[Emmanuel Cruz]

I voted for Universal because I only seen one of Lantz's cartoons. I saw only Pantry Panic. After seeing it, I would love to see all the Lantz cartoons.

[Gossamer]

I would pick Universal because the Walter Latz older materia has all but disappeared from view. As side note, I saw on Jerry Beck's Cartoon Research a while back that a package of Columbia/UPA shorts is available for syndication and is airing in other parts of the world. Too bad Cartoon Network isn't likely to pick it up. Maybe Nickolodeon might do so.

[Argus Sventon]

It seems that we should start a campaign to get the Columbia material released.

If only Viacom had bought Fox Family. If only Viacom had bought Fox Family....

[Nelson]

Argus, that's a great idea...We should start a campaign to bring the Columbia Cartoons to the public, it's not fair to us that movie audiences over seventy years ago got to see the true gems in the theaters, and the cartoon fans such as ourselves can't be allowed to see these films because the studio(Columbia/Sony) thinks that the cartoon characters have no star power towards today's modern viewers. :mad:

All of us should get together
Your's truly, Nelson aka MOEHARE
Pietro
Glenn
Kiddiesunhsine
Argus
Jon Cooke
Lislebartman
Sogturtle
Thad
Matthew
Dr. Belch
Jack
And Sveven....
And figure on how to contact the company and let our voices be heard :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Jack]

I doubt this helps any, but according to a Widescreen advocacy page, this is Columbia Tristar's address:

10202 West Washington Boulevard
Culver City, CA 90232-3195

and some phone number

(310) 244-4000

But I don't know if this is who to contact about the cartoons...


Jack:D

[Gossamer]

On Jerry Beck's website, www.cartoonresearch.com in Comments, dated 7/25/01, he say he worked with Columbia-Tristar International Television on a television series called Totally Tooned In! that currently does not have a home in the U.S. but is marketed elsewhere. They put together 65 episodes. Whether there is more than one short per episode, I do not know. But obviously, at least 65 shorts are in circulation. If you contact Columbia-Tristar, the more informed you seem, the better. I suggest the best way to go is to try and FIND A MARKET for this series! I'm sure Columbia-Tristar is not averse to syndication in the U. S. on a cable network.

[Jack]

I read about the Totally Tooned In series, but forget how long every episode is. All the color cartoons (eccept 20 or so with missing elements) have been restored to pristine condition with slight modification to soundtracks and titles for legal reasons (B&W cartoons have to wait). The series combines UPA, Mintz, and Screen Gems cartoons. They were restored from 35mm negatives, but over 90% had reissue titles so someone named Leslie Carbaga made new title art for some of those cartoons.

I hesitated with this poll, I wish I could have chosen Universal too (as well as all the rest), but at least with Universal, you can buy video tapes and trade with collectors to get some of those cartoons.



Jack:D
wants to see "Skeleton Frolic."

[Gossamer]

Ging by the filmography in Of Mice and Magic by Leonard Maltin (for this book alone, Maltin earns a thousand blessings), Columbia/Screen Gems produced (more or less) 148 color cartoons and UPA produced 90. Therefore, if all of the Columbias and UPA cartoons are in the package, Totally Tooned In, that is roughly 238 cartoons. Series invoved include Color Rhapsodis, Fox and Crow, Flippy, Mister Magoo, Ham and Hattie and Gerald McBoing Boing, among others

[Jack]

and if you subtract the 24 "lost" cartoons that didn't make into the series, you get 214 cartoons. This could make about 71 half hour episodes, but since there are only 65 episodes, 19 other color cartoons are missing. Probably because of political correctness or WWII related reasons, or even just because they couldn't fit 'em all in. UPA made about 15 Cinemascope cartoons, so they may have left those out to avoid letterboxing and pan and scan problems... But, depending on what those other 19 or so cartoons are, you'd get all but one Fox and Crow cartoon (Mysto Fox is lost:( ), most if not all the UPA thatrical cartoons, as well as who knows what...



Jack:D

[Gossamer]

Would you happen to know which 24 are lost? I'd be very interested in the info. Many thanks for any assistance.

[The Dork Knight]

Too late. D*sn*y bought Fox Family.

[Jack]

According to an article from Animation Blast, as of 1999 the following are either missing sound elements, picture elements, or completely missing (some could be found by now, though):

Monkey Love (1935 Color Rhapsody)
Neighbors (1935 Color Rhapsody)
Tetched In The Head (1935 Barney Google)
Patch Mah Britches (1935 Barney Google)
Spark Plug (1936 Barney Google)
Major Google (1936 Barney Google)
The Stork Takes A Holliday (1937 Color Rhapsody)
Hollywood Graduation (1938 Color Rhapsody)
Little Moth's Big Flame (1938 Color Rhapsody)
Hollywood Sweepstakes (1939 Color Rhapsody)
Dreams On Ice (1939 Color Rhapsody)
The Grayhound and the Rabbit (1940 Color Rhapsody)
Who's Zoo In Hollywood (1941 Color Rhapsody)
King Midas Jr. (1942 Color Rhapsody)
There's Something About A Soldier (1943 Color Rhapsody)
The Herring Murder Case (1943 Color Rhapsody)
Kickapoo Juice (1944 L'il Abner)
Ripping Romance (1945 Color Rhapsody)
River Ribber (1945 Color Rhapsody)
Cockatoos For Two (1947 Color Rhapsody)
Mysto Fox (1946 Fox and Crow)
Fowl Brawl (1947 Phantasy)
Kitty Caddy (1947 Phantasy)
Wacky Quacky (1947 Phantasy)

I guess you e-mail Jerry Beck if you have any of these on 16mm or 35mm film.

One has to wonder that if Columbia has 24 lost color cartoons, then how many lost black and white cartoons does it have? And what about other studios who haven't let their cartoons see the light of day for a while?


Jack:D

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by Jack
They were restored from 35mm negatives, but over 90% had reissue titles so someone named Leslie Cabarga made new title art for some of those cartoons.


Leslie Cabarga is the author of "The Fleischer Story". He also created the backdrops used in "Cartoon Madness: The Fantastic Max Fleischer Cartoons".

[Argus Sventon]

Since the Columbia cartoons, were sold to Hygo and Unity, and later re-purchased by Columbia, maybe the elements were lost in the transactions.