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Green-Ghost
08-08-2002, 02:27 PM
Here is a interview from Comicon.com:

BY JENNIFER M. CONTINO
John Francis Moore is used to putting a different spin on characters and is going to be working his magic this fall on the Batman crew in the eight issue miniseries, Batman Family.

THE PULSE: What is Batman Family?

John Francis Moore: Batman Family is an eight issue miniseries introducing a cadre of elite criminals called the Network, who have infiltrated the both the Gotham underworld and the Gotham business world.

It also introduces a new vigilante called the Tracker who's disrupting a prominent Gotham mob. The series also explores the relationship of Bruce Wayne's mother to a criminal family of the past and a dangerous threat in the present.

THE PULSE: What members of the Family are present in this series?

JFM: Batman, Batgirl, Robin, Nightwing, Oracle, Catwoman, the Spoiler, Orpheus, Black Canary and Alfred.

THE PULSE: How is it similar to the '70s Batman Family series?

JFM: The '70s series was simply an anthology of the Gotham vigilantes which featured some great stories: The Batman leads by Denny O'neil and Michael Golden (with Craig Russell inking Golden's pencils--oh yeah, sweet); and some goofy ones: Batgirl and robin stop the ghost of Benedict Arnold from sabotaging the bicentennial.

This story explores the way Batman interacts with the heroes with whom he works. One of the many irony's of Batman's character is that while he is unquestionably a dark and brooding loner, he surrounds himself with comrades-in-arms. Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, Alfred and Oracle are his surrogate family. (The Huntress is probably the black sheep, the errant daughter, if you will.) Is it a dysfunctional family headed by an emotionally distant and often absent father figure? Sure, but Batman's concern for his brood is genuine.

This contrasts with a group called the Network who are a closely knit cadre of criminal orphans and dangerous misfits who are a different sort of family, led by a manipulative and mysterious matriarch named Athena.

THE PULSE: What are some of the goals of this series?

JFM: The primary goal was to introduce an elite group of supercriminals to Gotham, a group that are an even more dysfunctional family unit.

Batman's very memorable rogues gallery is made up primarily of lunatic sociopaths, but he doesn't have an opponent who is as brilliant and dangerous as he is that isn't a psychopath. (Let's face it, every psycho bad guy in comics is just a pale imitation of the Joker.) I wanted to create a villain who could be Batman's Moriarty, and I thought it might be interesting if she were female. Hence, Athena.

Further, I hope that I've laid the groundwork for current and future Batman creative teams to use the characters.

THE PULSE: What do you like the best about the Batman Family?

JFM: Batman and his supporting cast are some of the most interesting and challenging characters to write in the superhero genre. You can't change Batman too much, you have to change his circumstance and explore his reaction to those changes.

THE PULSE: Why should people check out this project?

JFM: It will explain what a lot of new villains who have appeared in one form or another in recent Bat books are doing in Gotham city.

Its got almost all of the Batman supporting cast in one way or another.

THE PULSE: Who else is working on Batman Family?

JFM: The art is by Stefano Gaudiano and Rick Hoberg who are working together, sharing both pencilling and inking chores. They are doing an amazing job bringing the story to life.

John Workman is lettering the book, and he's hands-down one of the best letterers in the business.

As for the editorial office, itís been great to work with Matt Idelson who took over the project after Joe Illidge left DC.

THE PULSE: When does the first issue come out? How many issues is it?

JFM: The first issue comes out in late October and I believe an issue comes out every following week. All totalled there are eight chapters, the first and last books being double sized issues.

THE PULSE: Which supporting members of the Batman Family are favorites?

JFM: Currently, I like them all. I have a great fondness for Dick Grayson (Nightwing) and Barbara Gordon (Oracle), both in their current identities as †Nighwing and Oracle and in their past ones as the original Robin and Batgirl. However, I've really enjoyed the development of the current Robin and Batgirl, Tim Drake and Cassandra (Cain).

The Huntress is the most interesting to write because, unlike the other members of the Gotham vigilante fraternity, she's the most screwed up. She's also the character who has the most potential to grow and change.

Catwoman on the other hand is the most fun to write. I've always maintained that she's a criminal motivated by the love of danger more than the need for profit--Not that she doesn't want the spoils of her late night breaking and entering.

THE PULSE: Which wouldn't you touch with a ten-foot pole?

JFM: Bat-mite. After Evan Dorkin's World's Funniest, there's nothing more to say about that character.

THE PULSE: What other projects are you working on?

JFM: I'm helping Art Thibert relaunch his Black & White series for next year. Kieron Dwyer and I are shopping some creator owned properties. And I'm slowly working on a surreal western for Larry Young's AiT/Planet Lar imprint. A two issue Batgirl/Catwoman/Oracle prestige project drawn by Darick Robertson (Batgirl/Catwoman) and David Ross (Catwoman/Oracle) and inked by Jimmy Palmiotti is supposed to be out sometime in winter I think.

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BLACKHEART
08-08-2002, 02:40 PM
And yet those images share a Jokerish theme

Anthonynotes
08-08-2002, 11:35 PM
I want to know when we'll see "Superman Family" revived as a miniseries...or even better, revive it as an anthology format a la the old 70's title, with features including: Superman, Superboy, Steel, perhaps Supergirl (or some miscellaneous related person to the Superman mythos), and maybe a "World of Metropolis" feature (centering around Lois Lane/Jimmy Olsen/etc.). At least it'd get Steel and Superboy back in regular print... (shrug)

-B.

CadaverousEyes
08-09-2002, 10:11 PM
I always considered Ra's al Ghul Batman's Moriarty but hey, whatever. Those are some great looking covers but the whole playing card motif makes them seem too similar to the Royal Flush Gang, another crime family, if I'm not mistaken. Still interested though...

TuxedoKamen
08-09-2002, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
And yet those images share a Jokerish theme

This makes me a little nervous. Batman's Moriarty? If I remember correctly, Holmes had to kill himself to defeat Moriarty. I can't help but think someone's going to die. And why does Robin have to be the only one that's gotten thrashed in the promo pics?! Spoiler's in perfect condition! She should be the one getting thrashed most often, as she's the ... greenest ... member of the family, with the least amount of field experience, etc. What's with this desire to kill Robin that permeates comic fandom lately? I can't turn around on the internet without finding another "Kill Robin in a Fanfic!" Contest. What's with all this angst? Batman's inability to express his feelings for his loved ones is distressing enough.
But getting back on track... Batman doesn't have an intellectual equal that isn't insane? What about Ra's Al Ghul? He's not really insane... just slightly skewed in his world view. I would consider him evil without being insane, and I've always felt he was on Batman's level, or pretty close.

alex
08-12-2002, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by TuxedoKamen


This makes me a little nervous. Batman's Moriarty? If I remember correctly, Holmes had to kill himself to defeat Moriarty. I can't help but think someone's going to die. And why does Robin have to be the only one that's gotten thrashed in the promo pics?! Spoiler's in perfect condition! She should be the one getting thrashed most often, as she's the ... greenest ... member of the family, with the least amount of field experience, etc. What's with this desire to kill Robin that permeates comic fandom lately? I can't turn around on the internet without finding another "Kill Robin in a Fanfic!" Contest. What's with all this angst? Batman's inability to express his feelings for his loved ones is distressing enough.
But getting back on track... Batman doesn't have an intellectual equal that isn't insane? What about Ra's Al Ghul? He's not really insane... just slightly skewed in his world view. I would consider him evil without being insane, and I've always felt he was on Batman's level, or pretty close.

I'd like to think that Catwoman is also Batman's intilectual equal. of all his foes, she has foiled him most often. Not to mention the fact that it takes more than a bodysuit to get past the security, and out of the scrapes she does.

TuxedoKamen
08-12-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by alex


I'd like to think that Catwoman is also Batman's intilectual equal. of all his foes, she has foiled him most often. Not to mention the fact that it takes more than a bodysuit to get past the security, and out of the scrapes she does.

Point. Though I think Catwoman is helped by the fact that Batman's brain has to fight with ... other controlling impulses when he's around her. :D

:: Runs ::

Barb Gordon
08-12-2002, 12:24 PM
oo, I so can't wait for this! It's look very awesome. I think I'd have to agree though that Ra's is pretty much like Batman's Moriarty. Holmes had to fake is own death in order to defeat Moriarty, who then dies. It was the only final way to outsmart Mortiarty in order to beat him. And I think Ra's and Batman share the battle of the wits.

~Barb

TuxedoKamen
08-12-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Barb Gordon
oo, I so can't wait for this! It's look very awesome. I think I'd have to agree though that Ra's is pretty much like Batman's Moriarty. Holmes had to fake is own death in order to defeat Moriarty, who then dies. It was the only final way to outsmart Mortiarty in order to beat him. And I think Ra's and Batman share the battle of the wits.

~Barb

Wait...so Holmes didn't really die? I thought that was supposed to be Holmes' last caper. Watson thought he was dead, according to the way the movie went. Were there more books after this one?
I don't really think faking a death would be a good way to outsmart Ra's. He sees himself as a master of life and death, with the Lazurus pits and all, and would probably just want to bring Bruce back from the dead so they could continue their contest. :)

Kathy Kane
08-12-2002, 02:17 PM
OK, just I'm clear on things who is Ophen??
I think I saw him meet nightwing, who blew him off.
So now he's going to be one of the gang, huh?
Does anyone have any info on this guy?

Oh yeah, FYI--Holmes did die, but because of the reponse for the readers, Auther Conan Doyle, wrote another story inwhich he didn't fall to he's death but faked it, to hide from Moriarty's associates. He returned after a year, traveling the world, in a story called The Empty House.

alex
08-13-2002, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by TuxedoKamen


Point. Though I think Catwoman is helped by the fact that Batman's brain has to fight with ... other controlling impulses when he's around her. :D

:: Runs ::

Eeeeeeewwwwww. That's terribly sexist of you :mad: . In the name of the moon, you're punished! (grows wings as crescent shaped birthmark glows on forehead) STARLIGHT HONEYMOON-THERAPY KISS!!!!! Well, now that you are a pile of dust, I doubt you'll be going anywhere.

Ahem. Batman doesn't allow his libido to interfere with his work. If he did, he would ave died at the lips of Poison Ivy long ago. Catwoman defeats him with her skills alone. Batman considers her to be a criminal/obstacle first, and a lover second.

TuxedoKamen
08-13-2002, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by alex


Eeeeeeewwwwww. That's terribly sexist of you :mad: . In the name of the moon, you're punished! (grows wings as crescent shaped birthmark glows on forehead) STARLIGHT HONEYMOON-THERAPY KISS!!!!! Well, now that you are a pile of dust, I doubt you'll be going anywhere.

Ahem. Batman doesn't allow his libido to interfere with his work. If he did, he would ave died at the lips of Poison Ivy long ago. Catwoman defeats him with her skills alone. Batman considers her to be a criminal/obstacle first, and a lover second.

Ouch. You have my apologies. That did come out completely wrong. :( But still... you have to admit that there's some reason he doesn't easily capture her every time. She's not Ra's Al Ghul. She hasn't trained all her life to be the perfect thief (well, at least, since last time I'm aware of her being retconned...). IMHO, he's always seemed to let her get away with more than she should be able to. I tend to think that this is because he likes her a lot more than he would care to admit. I never meant to imply that all he sees her as is a sex object. Quite the contrary, I think he respects her a great deal and, deep down, doesn't want to have to send her to Blackgate. (I don't think she'd go to Arkham, as she isn't crazy...well except for dressing up like a cat...)

Again, please pardon my ill-worded reply. Being turned into a pile of dust is most unpleasant. :)