Anybody here married..?

[Frozen]

I'm just curious to know how many people here are married. There seems to be a lot of people still in high school, college or what ever, so I was wondering what the average age is around here as well. Also, if you are married/co-habitating, what would you like to tell us about your partner..?

[optimal321]

Far from it. But i'll keep you all posted:)

[Nightflower]

Grade 13 starting September. Yes....in Ontario, and only Ontario, there is a Grade 13. It sucks ass :(

Not married, not planning to get married, but I do have a nice boyfriend ^_^

[killercroc]

Not actually with children yet, but the first one is due in four weeks. I've mentioned it on the board before and everyone was really positive and cool about it. I will let you guys know when the kiddo shows up.

We've been married almost five years. It was really nice to be married for a while before having a kid. We don't have to deal with both adjustments at once.

I totally support single moms and don't have a moral issue with having kids out of wedlock or anything. However, we are both proud that we waited to get pregnant. I broke a three generation tradition in my family by being married before having a kid. It was only one generation for my wife.

[joker]

im a freshman and ill never get married

[Jowy Blight]

I'm 15, I can't get married yet.:(

[The Mad Hatter]

I'm 26 and still not married. Though I did just start dating a wonderful, wonderful gal... let's hope she likes animation!

[The Clown Prince]

I'm 21 (be 22 in October) and will probably be engaged next year. Been in a serious relationship for 3 years, and we're both ready to go the next step. I can't wait! :)

The Clown Prince

[Crazy8s]

I'll be married 27 years next month! One daughter, now graduated from high school and working while going to college. Fortunately, my husband has always accepted my love of cartoons, comics and big lizards (I have a 5 ft iguana).

[I.R Joey]

Nope I seem to repel the female gender.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

*Sigh*

It's time for me to get into a serious relationship...I do want to get married someday, though I'm the type who likes to "feel out" a relationship for a few years before making the big commitment...

I'm 22, and if I were to plot out my life, I'd get married in my late 20s or just 30.

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by killercroc
Not actually with children yet, but the first one is due in four weeks. I've mentioned it on the board before and everyone was really positive and cool about it. I will let you guys know when the kiddo shows up.

We've been married almost five years. It was really nice to be married for a while before having a kid. We don't have to deal with both adjustments at once.

I totally support single moms and don't have a moral issue with having kids out of wedlock or anything. However, we are both proud that we waited to get pregnant. I broke a three generation tradition in my family by being married before having a kid. It was only one generation for my wife.

i am 14. so no.

congrads

[Nightflower]

What about you, Frozen? If you've mentioned it already, my apologies.

[Robin2099]

I'm not married, but I'm hoping to get married in my mid 20's. The plus side is since I'm 18 I have time to kill.

[NewMaxFranklin]

I'm 18. No girlfriend. Never had one in highschool. Never been on a date really. Avoided the issue.

I brushed off a girl I really liked, for fear of comlicating either of our lives only to split apart after highschool, or end up over my head. I didn't want to influence her, when I wasn't yet sure of who I was or what I wanted, or vice versa. I didn't think that would be fair.

I'll probably start dating before I'm 19. Now that I'm self- sufficient. No rush IMO. Women like older guy's right?

It's hard to find a younger woman when your 18, living alone in Hollywood, and not going to school.

It doesn't help that I'm not looking. I'm saving myself for Zhang Ziyi. :D

http://www.famousbabes.com/pics119/ziyiZ/ziyiZ061.jpg

[Frozen]

Originally posted by Nightflower
What about you, Frozen? If you've mentioned it already, my apologies.

Yes, I am indeed married.

My lovely wife is called Chantal, she's six foot tall, 32 (I love older women!), long dark hair, lovely broad shoulders and strong arms, intelligent, creative, great at DIY (bonus!), beautiful... boy am I lucky. When she wears her glasses she's kinda like a cross between The Baroness (GI Joe - she has a black skinny fit t-shirt with the COBRA symbol on and she REALLY looks the part in it!), Joanie Laurer (Third Rock, WWF), and Sheryl Crow...

Jeez, I really can't believe how lucky I am - and it's not just the physicality of it all, either. We like the same films, comics, toys, music, TV, role-playing games, sports... I've married every Geek's dream - ANOTHER GEEK!!!

The down side? I work away from home - and by God I miss her...

[killercroc]

Originally posted by Crazy8s
I'll be married 27 years next month! One daughter, now graduated from high school and working while going to college. Fortunately, my husband has always accepted my love of cartoons, comics and big lizards (I have a 5 ft iguana).
Hey, Crazy8s, good to see you're still out there! We've been missing ya'.

[optimal321]

Well, if i were to plot out my life, i'd say that i want to get married early to mid twenties. That way i can have some alone and down time w/ my wife before we start having kids late twenties to early thirties. Although my real life w/ women never seem to work out exactly as i planned. Ah well, i guy can dream, can't he?

[Keith]

Yes - I am indeed married.

My master plan was to get married when I was 25 - have kids at 30. That didn't quite happen - met the right woman and the rest is history. I've got a six year old step-son and a four and a half month old daughter.

And in case you were wondering - I'm 26.

Keith

[Frozen]

Similiar story here too - I never planned on marrying AT ALL (my folks rowed all the time, and I thought that was what married life was all about - didn't fancy it...), but then I met the right woman, and, like you say Keith - the rest is history!

Ain't love grand..?

[Calhoun07]

I'm not.


And love sucks.

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

I am only 15, so I'm not married, but even at that age I must agree with Calhoun: LOVE STINKS.

Stupid opposite gender....(grumbles) What the heck do they want in a guy?!

[Nightflower]

*raises eyebrow*

[Frozen]

Well, from what I understand from my wife, the list of what women want is too long to list BUT it's SOOO easy to get right if you're with the right person...

Does that make any sense?

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Crazy8s
I'll be married 27 years next month! One daughter, now graduated from high school and working while going to college. Fortunately, my husband has always accepted my love of cartoons, comics and big lizards (I have a 5 ft iguana).

Oh, congratulations crazy8s! That sounds wonderful.

Currently I'm an itinerant academic, wandering from school to school depending on who's hiring for the season. It's much like migrant farm work, but no one writes folk songs about us!

A relationship would seriously complicate my life, so I've tried to stay out of them (and have been depressingly successful at it). One reason I have so much time to hang out on these boards. . . .

[DR. BELCH]

Well...here's volume one...[places thick book on table]...and here's volume two...[places second thick book on top of first]...and here is the manual that explains the difficult parts in volumes one and two. [places book about half as thick, but still pretty respectably-sized in itself, on top of first two]
I know the perfect woman for me is out there...but with my luck she's only about five feet tall and a hundred pounds. I'm six-foot-one and 220. [attempts intimacy--*crunch*]
What gets me is that my younger brother's only 19 and already married with a kid. Not exactly good for my ego, although I do spend a lot of time taking care of my neice. When she cries, it's her parents' cue to pass her to me to get her quiet.
So after a few false starts, I'm a little cynical on relationships, but I'm still hopeful. Common interests are a must, but it's hard to find a girl who will put up with me and my twisted sense of room decor (including a stuffed and mounted cat head left over from high school dissection).

[Jowy Blight]

I would like to get marryed someday, but most girls would never understand me. I'm far to weird and I'm somewhat of a loner.

[Nightflower]

It could work. I'm 5'1 (and a half! And a half!), and 95 lbs. My boyfriend is 6'2, and I'm not sure his weight, but you can bet it's way over 95 lbs :P Yep, I get mistaken for a 12-year-old a lot. SUCH A PAIN IN THE ASS! *sob*

What's up with all this "I don't understand girls/Girls don't understand me" schtick? I'll admit that most girls I've met are a pain in the ass, but then again, most people I meet are too. I hate everyone equally ^_^

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Nightflower
What's up with all this "I don't understand girls/Girls don't understand me" schtick? I'll admit that most girls I've met are a pain in the ass, but then again, most people I meet are too. I hate everyone equally ^_^

You're hanging with geeks. What do you expect us to say? :p

[The Mad Hatter]

Well, I used to be there with bitterness and cynicism toward the female gender. And I thought that I wouldn't be able to appeal to anyone because I'm a bit different... not cat head-mounting different, but I do my own thing and I don't really fit into any easily-definable categories (not even "geek"). And you add to that the fact that I'm relatively old (26) and it's tough to even find single people my age, and also the fact that I'm in a smallish town where everyone gets married and settles down at an early age. So I was right there with you.

But... purely by chance, I recently ran into a truly wonderful gal who doesn't look for people in easily definable categories. She likes the fact that I'd rather treat people with respect than display a macho swagger. And, dare I say it, she actually takes an interest in animation and my video-game column, which generally scares people off. She sets my mind alight like never before, and she's a looker, too.

So guys, if something like that can happen to me, there's hope for you, too.

(Of course, now that I've written this, I'll probably get a phone call telling me she doesn't want to be around me anymore, but hopefully not. :) )

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

No, I just have some bad times I remember...I'll explain in a later post.

I'm sure there is someone for everyone too, but my luck may be that my potential soul mate is somewhere in Indonesia!:p

I would not worry, Hatter, I think your chances are still good on keeping your gal pal.

I know, I'm only 15 and all, I'm young and still have time, but frankly I speak with truth when I say it's not likely I will get a girlfriend until college.

Also, I sould probably relish being single. Like Nightflower said, there can be lotsa pain-in-the-neck girls. The ones I know on a regular basis are probably the worst in the bunch.

[The Mad Hatter]

Nah, I'm not worried about losing her, we're nuts about each other. I'm just joking about jinxing something by commenting on how good it is. You know, say something like "I've never broken a bone in my body!" will result in five of them getting crushed in minutes. I'd knock on wood, but there's only particle board around here...

[optimal321]

You are all lucky people. Well, those of you posting stories in this thread instead of the ones i've really participated in. And, as much as i want to rely on blind faith, i don't know that there's a special someone out there for me. I mean, i hope and pray that someday i'll find my woman, but i don't expect it to happen. I'm not getting my hopes up. But i shouldn't bring this thread down. Love is out there. I just have to find it...

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by optimal321
You are all lucky people. Well, those of you posting stories in this thread instead of the ones i've really participated in. And, as much as i want to rely on blind faith, i don't know that there's a special someone out there for me. I mean, i hope and pray that someday i'll find my woman, but i don't expect it to happen. I'm not getting my hopes up. But i shouldn't bring this thread down. Love is out there. I just have to find it...

Sometimes finding the right someone requires you to change your thinking. If you have a few petty complaints or you hold people to too high a standard, you'll never find that person.

My plan is to relax, talk to people, and keep improving myself. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't--but I think trying to keep an open mind is the best way.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH
I'm a little cynical on relationships, but I'm still hopeful. Common interests are a must, but it's hard to find a girl who will put up with me and my twisted sense of room decor (including a stuffed and mounted cat head left over from high school dissection).


What can I say, I'm a romantic at heart. I still have this image of me with a strong, satisfying job one day, and I decide to go on a vacation--my girlfriend (or wife?) is sitting beside me in the car and we're just driving somewhere...doesn't matter where, we just keep driving on into the sunset.

Of course, working up to that image is the hard part. I guess even considering my luck with women, I'm still a wee bit delusional. Ah well. Keeps me from going postal.
:rolleyes:

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by Jowy Blight
I would like to get marryed someday, but most girls would never understand me. I'm far to weird and I'm somewhat of a loner.

My experience is that if you avoid people consciously, the hand of God won't put down the perfect woman to come looking for you. You're gonna have to expose yourself and search, kiddo. Sorry. I had to learn the hard way in high school.

But you're still young, so you can still be a loner for a couple more years. :)

[Jowy Blight]

My experience is that if you avoid people consciously, the hand of God won't put down the perfect woman to come looking for you. You're gonna have to expose yourself and search, kiddo.

I think I'll try that in collage, the girls at my school are downright mean.


But you're still young, so you can still be a loner for a couple more years.

That's the plan.:)

[Nightflower]

In my experience, guys AND girls aged 13-14, and maybe 15, are VICIOUS. They're more apt to be judgemental and cruel. I didn't have a great time at that age, I find that few people do. It's like there's this big pressure to get hooked up with someone of the opposite sex or else you're a loser; whether it's society, or hollywood, or other kids. It's funny cuz I started going out with guys AFTER I stopped caring about that sort of thing. Life works that way I guess :rolleyes:

But a bunch of people (a bunch of guys ;) ) are complaining that they can't find a girl who shares an interest in animation and games and weirdness. First of all, I do, and secondly, I have a hard time finding guys or girls who share my interest. I'm usually seen as immature. I don't really care, cuz I am immature :) I'm really glad my boyfriend loves that sort of thing though :)

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Like Nightflower said, the beginning of the teen-age years ARE vicious. I do not remember being 13 or 14 too fondly; one wrong remark and you wind up the laughing stock...

There ARE periods when I AM glad I'm not hooked up, particuraly when something is really complicating my life (as I do not need a g/f at the time to trouble me more), and besides, I'm not a sociable person-I dunno if I could really maintain a relatioship. But still, there are times I wish I had a gal pal, but then again, finding one that has some similar intrests as I do can be hard...

....neh. As of late I find myself in that period of ditching the concept of getting a grilfriend, maybe as Nightflower did I could wind up with a significant other.:rolleyes:

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Nightflower
. I'm usually seen as immature. I don't really care, cuz I am immature

Which is actually a very mature attitude.:) Anyway, 60s "youth" culture to the contrary, it's the immature people who hate the mature people, not the other way around.

[The Mad Hatter]

What various posters said is right, things really do get better for offbeat people in college. I didn't date much in high school, but I was able to date more, and get into good relationships, in college.

Also, it's very true that isolating yourself won't help. My big suggestion then, is that the best way to meet people is to get out there and do something you enjoy. Join a college club. Go to a gym or health club. Volunteer time at a charity. Go to church. Whatever is your bag, just do it. Even if you don't meet that "special someone" right off the bat, you'll be keeping yourself active, and you'll probably meet some good friends.

[Robin2099]

Biggest problem I've always had with relationships is keeping them alive. After my last GF dumped me, I've wanted to get another GF, but I don't feel like putting in the effort to ask them out, and to keep the "flame" alive.

[Inque]

I planned to get married soon, if I ever find someone willing to be with me.

I thought I found someone to be in a serious relationship with, but I guess I was wrong.

[NewMaxFranklin]

I find myself avoiding girls I'm attracted to, at the gym, at work, and other places I frequent. Because if it doesn't work out, the environment may become uncomfortable. I wouldn't date someone from this board, for example.

I'd rather meet someone out at a random party or club. But I don't go to parties very often. And NEVER go to clubs. I don't like crowds; though I am a great public speaker. Funny that. I wouldn't be inclined to go out with "finding a girl" on my mind either.

I've considered asking out this cute waitress at a sushi resturant. But, I think she see's me as a little brother type. Another waitress at the same restutrant is more flirty with me. But, I'm not as attracted to her. :rolleyes:

That's enough whining for now, bye.;)

[Inque]

Originally posted by NMaxFranklin
I wouldn't date someone from this board, for example.

I was just wondering, would anybody date someone else from this board?

[NewMaxFranklin]

LOL! Geez!! When you use that sentence out of context it sounds like I'm being all superior. I hope everyone reads my post before they read yours.;)

[Inque]

I didn't mean it like that. I was asking everybody here if they would date somebody else from this board?

[NewMaxFranklin]

I know you had no ill intent. I just thought it was a funny example of how easily something can be misinterpreted.

[Frozen]

Inque wrote:

I was just wondering, would anybody date someone else from this board?

Sure, why not? Well, I mean I would if I wasn't married, and most of the people on this board are in a different CONTINENT!!! But, apart from that, yep, I'd date somebody from the board...

[The Mad Hatter]

Would I date someone from this board? Sure. Not that I have anybody in mind or anything, of course not. ;)

Actually, I get the feeling that there may already be a couple or two on this board... ;)

And no, the person I'm dating is in my same zip code. So let's just nip any potential rumors right here.

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Leap Larry Jojo


Sometimes finding the right someone requires you to change your thinking. If you have a few petty complaints or you hold people to too high a standard, you'll never find that person.

My plan is to relax, talk to people, and keep improving myself. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't--but I think trying to keep an open mind is the best way.

Fear not LLJ, i was proven wrong long before i read your post. I've gotten so bad that i'm actually making the bad things happen to me. And it wasn't that i hold people at too high standards, it was that i held myself lower. But, i'm better now, and hopefully i can still make things right before i screw up a damn good chance at finding someone.

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Inque

I was just wondering, would anybody date someone else from this board?


Well, hopefully, i haven't messed up too much w/ the girl i like off these boards. But i don't hold any prejudices against anyone on here. You are all wonderful people!!!

[Nightflower]

At the Cybersix board I visit, there are already lots of couples. There's an "ex" couple, a couple who actually got to meet and hit off really well (Even though they live on opposite sides of the country... oh well. It's better than being on different continents!), and one who even got engaged.

Would I date someone on these boards? Hmm....I'll have to get back to you on that (Theoretically, of course; I'm perfectly happy with my boyfriend :p)

[Frozen]

So what is it everybody here looks for in a partner..?

[DR. BELCH]

Now I have done the relationship thing with a girl I met on a message board before...and like I said, it was a matter of physical distance that ended that. But conversely, the relationship I was in before that ended because of emotional distance, even though she only lived 15 miles away. Somehow that's even more painful, when you feel closer to a girl 2000 miles away that right in the next darn town. Yes, I'd do it again, if I could be sure I could make it last and we could get around the long-distance thing. Will I name names? No. Want to guess or make suggestions? Feel free....

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Oh, what I'd like in a girl, eh? It's the works: they have to be smart, funny, charming....you know, a kind personality. That's most important to me, a good personality. It shows, well, they have a personality. The girl also has to accept the fact I'm a nerd... :)
Looks I try not to include, because I do not need a relationship based solely on the fact that I thought the girl looked hot...I'd like a relationship with depth to it.

Would I date some girl on the boards? Sure, if I got to know them well enough. 'Course, there's the distance problem...eh. (shrugs)

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Inque
I didn't mean it like that. I was asking everybody here if they would date somebody else from this board?

Sure! If the right person came along! So...this opens the boards up for a whole new possibilty now! TOONZONE PERSONALS! I can see it now! Where's Brian to create the new board??

[Frozen]

Toonzone Personals? *Laughs* Cool! What a great idea..!

[Calhoun07]

Hey, at least we'd hook up with people who share the same interests! But I don't think there is another girl on here from Missouri...oh well!

[Jowy Blight]

I was just wondering, would anybody date someone else from this board?

I would, everybody who's here is pretty cool. Hm..........I'm starting to think I spend too much time on the computer. Oh that's right, I have no life.

Anyway back on topic, Most of the girls here don't bust my chops over anything. So like I said, I would.


Toonzone Personals? *Laughs* Cool! What a great idea..!

That would be something, wouldn't it?:D

[Frozen]

Speaking of married life - I am now returning home to my lovely wife. Everybody have a great weekend, and I shall catch up with you all on Monday morning...

All the best,

Frozen

[Sveven Dvorking]

If you think I'm married, you're out of your mind! My profile states that I am way too young.

[The Mad Hatter]

Hey, you're not too young in Mississippi... they marry 'em young in the south.

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Hey, you're not too young in Mississippi... they marry 'em young in the south.

Maybe so, but I'm in the North.:)

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

they marry 'em young in the south

So in the Tiny Toon "How I Spent My Vacation" special Buster marrying those three hick gator girls has a grain of truth in it?! (shudders...)

I'm with Sven on this one: I'm glad I'm in the northern U.S. too!

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Frozen
So what is it everybody here looks for in a partner..?

Well, a great sense of humor; kind heart; independent, but not a male-hater; high morals and ethics; intelligence; not too concerned about being "popular" or being fake; accepting of my weird ways; understanding; open-mind; similar interests, but doesn't have to be a cartoon and comic nut; cuddly; having time for me; but most of all, i just want someone i love to love me. The physical things don't really matter because i tend to see beauty as starting on the inside and radiating outward. So someone i really like may not be seen as "attractive" by the majority of sleeze bags, but i will think they are the most beautiful girl in the world. But, one thing i am kinda picky about is that i want her to have pretty eyes. That again is not only a matter of opinion, but also the beauty within thing. I just want to be able to be so attracted to her that i can get lost looking in her eyes.

So i guess what i'm saying is that... I want the perfect woman!!!

[Nightflower]

Ignoring the fact that I have a boyfriend (Although he fits the criteria pretty well!): Intelligence, sense of humor, kind of nerdy, kind of cute.

Back to the question "Would you date someone from this board?" Almost all the guys here has what I look for (see above) so sure :) Of course, age and distance kind of get in the way :p

[killercroc]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Hey, at least we'd hook up with people who share the same interests! But I don't think there is another girl on here from Missouri...oh well!

Well even if there was you and Dr. Belch would have to fight it out over her. Cause he's from Missouri also. ;)

[DR. BELCH]

--I'm in Arkansas, near the levee, close to the border. But you're right, there's no girl like a Southern girl. Still, with my luck, I'll fall for a girl who lives on either the east or west coast. Not so bad, though--I'm looking to travel, and where better than either the entertainment (CA) and publishing (NY) meccas of the U.S....

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Frozen
So what is it everybody here looks for in a partner..?

Intelligence and a sense of humor are a must. I have to say I am hardly ever intimidated by a woman's intelligence, if she's not arrogant about it. But they have to have a sense of humor. This is this great girl at work I like but she just cannot take a joke, and that is such a major turn off. You need to know how to laugh!

[NewMaxFranklin]

Most people say sense of humor is important in a boy/girlfriend. I once heard a girl say that, "When a guy says he wants a girl with a good sense of humor, he doesn't mean; a girl who tells good jokes. He means; a girl who laughs at his."

I think that's true of myself. I want a girl who laughs at my jokes more than a girl who is funny herself. I'm not proud of it, but it's true.

I think for most girls it's the opposite. They want a guy who makes them laugh, as opposed to a guy who thinks they're funny. Do you guys agree or disagree?

As for other things I look for in a girl:

I want a girl who is independant. She needs to be confident and have her own opinions. No pushover. But, not demanding either. She has to repect me. I want a girl who is comfortable enough with herself to not sweat the small stuff.

Intellegence is important, but compassion is even more important. I don't want an evil genius:p. Seriously though. I an pretty emotional. I cry at movies, listening to music, etc. I'm pretty sensitive, so I need a girl who's understanding.

I want someone who doen't put on an act for different people. I try to treat everyone the same way; From my friends, to my boss, to my parents and siblings. There is only one behavior pattern. I want a girl who doesn't cater to people at the expesnce of her individuality.

Smart; confident; independant; compassionate; individual.

[Nightflower]

Yep....when I mean "sense of humor", I mean the guy has to be able to make me pee in my pants laughing.

Most people seem like want that in a significant other- to be confident and outgoing. I do- it beats having to carry the conversation :) But I guess that's why quiet geeks like me usually get overlooked.

[DR. BELCH]

Nightflower:
[When I say] "sense of humor", I mean the guy has to be able to make me pee in my pants laughing.
Depends on what kind of humor you like. Some women don't care for bawdy humor, which I enjoy...but there are those that don't mind it, and those are the ones I feel most comfortable with. I like innocence in a woman, but taken too far it can be like walking on eggshells, always afraid you'll scare her off.
It's hard to find intelligent and artistic women these days--some think men are afraid of a dame with a brain, so they try to dumb themselves down. Also, men like me tend to attract teases, brats, and twits. Not sure why.
I suppose I want someone with a mind who isn't afraid to speak it, who loves animals and children, and who doesn't smoke and seldom drinks...a woman who can share my love of literature, art, and animation. Plus she had to be able to understand me and fathom my darkness, to enjoy carnality yet be somewhat unchooled in it, and to not be totally adverse to body hair. Some women get really weird about that, for some reason.

[Kylewayne]

Originally posted by Frozen

what is it everybody here looks for in a partner..?


Well, a great sense of humor; kind heart; independent;not a control freak, someone who doesn't have a problem with a woman having a career and persuing her dreams, high morals, ethics, family values, caring and understanding.:)
Also,


intelligence; not too concerned about being "popular" or being fake; accepting of my weird ways; understanding; open-mind; similar interests, but doesn't have to be a cartoon and comic nut; cuddly; having time for me; but most of all, i just want someone i love to love me. The physical things don't really matter because i tend to see beauty as starting on the inside and radiating outward.

That is what I am looking for. He doesn't have to be perfect :) just someone whom I will feel comfortable with and he with me.

Is that to much to ask for :D

[The Dork Knight]

I'm 12. Not married yet either. I don't think I'll ever have a girlfriend. The longest time I had a girlfriend was a week. Then she dumped me to an idiot. No girl would ever want to go out with me. I'm a nerd....:(:(:(:(:(

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Gotlucky64
I'm 12.No girl would ever want to go out with me. I'm a nerd....:(:(:(:(:(

Cheer up. You're 12. You've got all the time in the world. :)

[Nightflower]

Yeah, really, babe. Sorry if this offends you, but....people have pretty casual relationships at 12.

[optimal321]

Originally posted by kylewayne


Is that to much to ask for :D

God, i hope not...:o

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Gotlucky64
I'm 12. Not married yet either. I don't think I'll ever have a girlfriend. The longest time I had a girlfriend was a week. Then she dumped me to an idiot. No girl would ever want to go out with me. I'm a nerd....:(:(:(:(:(

Imo, you're a pretty lucky guy. I've only been on two dates my entire life, both of which took place when i was 17. And i'm 17 years old now.

[James]

Originally posted by Frozen
So what is it everybody here looks for in a partner..?

Someone with a great deal of patience.... bucketloads of patience actually...

[Bud 'n Lou]

Hmm..yeah, I want someone who's funny too. And I'm starved for affection, so he should indulge me on that. He should have the same interests as me..and, sorry to say it, but..should be cute. I don't put a LOT in cuteness, but there should be SOME attraction. Admit it! You like cute people! And of course, he has to be smart. I want someone who can do the thinking for me. (ooh..that sounds kinda unhealthy, doesn't it?) Also, I wouldn't turn someone away who had a little money. I'm shallow, but at least I own it. You all know that money is a bonus! What's wrong with wanting a little security? :O)

[I.R Joey]

No I can honestly say I scare most girls away, I pretty much fit all of the qualifications you people have said, but I've honestly heard it from a girl before "that she would be afraid to go up and talk to me."

[catz]

Bud when you find a guy like that, you better tell me where you picked him up so I could find one too.



:D

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus


Cheer up. You're 12. You've got all the time in the world. :)

Get depressed. I'm twice your age and all my time in the world runs away from me every day, and I still ain't got no one!

[Calhoun07]

I thought I was pretty smart and had things all figured out. I knew that people were not emotionally prepared for marriage until 24 or 25 in this day and age. So I decided to wait, focused on things like education, my personal interests in music and art and writing. I kept myself busy. But when time came when I felt ready, I found all the girls my age that I really liked had all gone on and gotten married and there I stood feeling like I had missed out on all my chances.

My problem is that I meet a girl I really really like and then I get too worried about all the small things. There was this girl I knew when I worked at the grocery store that I absolutely liked everything about, and we even went out a few times, but in the end, I felt she was too young for me (there was a six year difference) but I think to myself now that I have yet to meet anybody like her and that age difference in the long run would be so trivial. I was a fool. And I guess in the end, it's not what we did that we have regrets over, it's what we didn't do. And the fact that I didn't go for that girl more is something I regret.

[optimal321]

I don't understand it. I mean, i'm a great guy. I fit practically all the things women are supposed to want. Maybe you ladies can try and convice the girl i like that. Not that i'm going to give up and just say taht she doesn't like me, but...

I'm in the middle of a relationship crisis here. After possibly (and hopefully) missinterpereting some of her e-mails, i just had to ask if she wanted to try and work towards a relationship. And i haven't heard back yet. So i'm just waiting for either a bright new future to begin, or to go back to the "love sucks" thing.

Can i ask you women a question? If you were friends w/ a guy and he had a huge crush on you, and you liked him as a friend, but you didn't especially like him, like him, and he fit all of the requirements for what you wanted in a man, would you give it a try? If no, then why not?

I don't really know what i'm saying. Just rambling i guess. I just like her and want to be in a relationship w/ her.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by optimal321
I don't understand it. I mean, i'm a great guy. I fit practically all the things women are supposed to want. Maybe you ladies can try and convice the girl i like that. Not that i'm going to give up and just say taht she doesn't like me, but...

Dave Barry: "Women say they want a sense of humor in a guy. But in high school, when it really counts, all they want is puberty."

I think it's the same basic story, even after high school. . .

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by optimal321
I don't understand it. I mean, i'm a great guy. I fit practically all the things women are supposed to want. Maybe you ladies can try and convice the girl i like that. Not that i'm going to give up and just say taht she doesn't like me, but...

I'm in the middle of a relationship crisis here. After possibly (and hopefully) missinterpereting some of her e-mails, i just had to ask if she wanted to try and work towards a relationship. And i haven't heard back yet.

Uh, my take is that she's taken a powder and you won't hear from her again...

One question--was this an e-mail correspondence or have you met her face to face? Also, actually saying that you want to work towards a relationship scares some people. Some people like things to come naturally. Maybe she's one of them.

[James]

Originally posted by optimal321
Can i ask you women a question? If you were friends w/ a guy and he had a huge crush on you, and you liked him as a friend, but you didn't especially like him, like him, and he fit all of the requirements for what you wanted in a man, would you give it a try? If no, then why not?

I can't talk for your specific situation - being not in either of your shoes - but generally if someone does not want to try a relationship there is no why, it simply may be theya re just not as attracted to you as you are to them.

I think you have to put yourself in her shoes. You can like someone a lot, and they may, if you were honest, have all the neccessary requirements for your perfect match, but still not have that required magic between the two of you.

I'm not a romantic, but I know that if someone likes you in a certain way, you're lucky, but if they don't there isn't much you can do about it.

Unfortunately, no matter how much Hollywood and the likes would like to tell us differently, it's all a matter of chemicals... that has a lot more to do with it that anyone really cares to admit....

Good luck anyway bud!

[Kylewayne]

Originally posted by optimal321

Can i ask you women a question? If you were friends w/ a guy and he had a huge crush on you, and you liked him as a friend, but you didn't especially like him, like him, and he fit all of the requirements for what you wanted in a man, would you give it a try? If no, then why not?

Well, I am in that situation right now, where my guy friend has a crush on me. The reason I do not want to date him is because I have known him since I was a kid. I might even say I am affraid that it might ruin our friendship if things went sour down the road. He is the sweetest guy I know and would do anything for me. We have gone out as friends a couple of times and had fun but I cannot seem to have a serious relationship with this guy. I want him more as a friend than my boyfriend. I hope I was clear enough. :rolleyes:

[optimal321]

Originally posted by kylewayne


Well, I am in that situation right now, where my guy friend has a crush on me. The reason I do not want to date him is because I have known him since I was a kid. I might even say I am affraid that it might ruin our friendship if things went sour down the road. He is the sweetest guy I know and would do anything for me. We have gone out as friends a couple of times and had fun but I cannot seem to have a serious relationship with this guy. I want him more as a friend than my boyfriend. I hope I was clear enough. :rolleyes:

KyleWayne, are you the girl i've been talking about??? Just kidding. But man that sounds familiar. But i do understand. I mean, she can't help the way she feels anymore than i can. And speaking from the guy's pov, the friendship is already tainted somehow. I'm not saying taht eventually he won't get over you, but personally, i don't see how i can just be friends w/ a girl i'm crazy about. Without everytime i see her wanting to just... I don't know. It's just that, if she says she doesn't want to be w/ me, i'm not sure if i can still see her w/o liking her more and more. But i really do hope things work out for you KyleWayne.

And L.L. Jojo, we go to school together and i've been the hopeless loser w/ the crush on my friend. And lets see, i don't want to be too specific w/ what's going on (you guys are probably tired of hearing it anyway), but she said something along the lines of "I know you want that to be more than what it is, but trust me, it's probably better this way." Man, i remembered that line too well. But anyway, she was talking about something else earlier that could have explained it, but since i get the feeling she's in a situation similar to KyleWayne's, i asked her if it was about the other reason, or that she didn't want a relationship w/ me. And i just sent my e-mail last night, so she probably just hasn't replied yet. It just seems like a really long time to me.

And i'm sorry if i sound like a big pity case. But thanks everyone for giving your advice.

*Sigh*:o

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

You were crystal, Kylewayne. ;)

Hey, I have a face that could stun a yak, I.R. Joey! I've scared off a girl when I asked her to dance with me at a school dance once....just a single question....so you can't complain all the girls would be afraid of you the most. ;)

...don't worry, Calhoun. If you got that close to a getting a relationship, you can do it again! Uh, I'm just trying to be nice....you said you worked on education and developing your talent in your intrests. Most girls, I'm sure, would like a guy who had done something like that!

As for Gotlucky64, well, I've never even had a girlfriend! Heck, no girl has even said I was 'adequate' looking....much less saying I'm good looking or even LIKING me. Heck, no girl has ever liked me!

So the moral of the story is: There's always someone who has it worse than you! And I'm that person!:D

In all respects, though, keep trying, guys....you can get a girlfriend.

[The Dork Knight]

The only time a girl asks me it out, it's just a joke. For me that really sucks. I'm a nice guy, great to talk to, very sensitive.... Oh wait! I know why no girls want to ask me out! BECASUSE I'M FAT!. Sadly for me I weigh over 200 pounds (Mostly because I'm tall.I am currently on a diet. My goal is to become 170 pounds.) Although I am very handsome to many people.I'm just afraid of high school because I'll be made fun of. :( Though I am very popular. No girl likes me though.... :( I am a smart kid. But girls don't like smart people. They want smelly braindead jocks. I'm gonna hate high school. :(

[Calhoun07]

A couple girls have asked me out, but both times, I declined the invitation. Both times were while I was in high school. The first girl who asked me out called me sooooo out of the blue one night at home and asked me. This was a girl I was friends with in grade school, and by the time high school came along, she ran with the popular crowd while I hung out by myself, mostly, in the art department. I mean, her friends were the types who would torment me in the halls and such, you know? So the friendship with this girl did not continue, even tho she never did anything to me to warrant that, just cliques and all. I didn't know what to think of this and said no, but sometimes I wonder what would have happened if I had said yes. Probably nothing life changing, but it's one of those what if things you play around with in your head.

The second girl who asked me out was...well, I don't know how to say it without sounding mean...but she had a reputation, you know? I had ZERO interest in that girl. In fact, when somebody first told me that she liked me, I just laughed my butt off because the concept of me liking her was just soo ridiculous to me.

Now, me asking girls out? It takes ALOT of courage for me to do it, and I have only done it a few times, with more failures than successes, but I tell ya, if the girls knew how much it took for me to get up the nerve to ask them out, maybe their answer wouldn't be no so quickly!

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by optimal321
I don't understand it. I mean, i'm a great guy. I fit practically all the things women are supposed to want. Maybe you ladies can try and convice the girl i like that. Not that i'm going to give up and just say taht she doesn't like me, but...

I'm in the middle of a relationship crisis here. After possibly (and hopefully) missinterpereting some of her e-mails, i just had to ask if she wanted to try and work towards a relationship. And i haven't heard back yet. So i'm just waiting for either a bright new future to begin, or to go back to the "love sucks" thing.

Can i ask you women a question? If you were friends w/ a guy and he had a huge crush on you, and you liked him as a friend, but you didn't especially like him, like him, and he fit all of the requirements for what you wanted in a man, would you give it a try? If no, then why not?

I don't really know what i'm saying. Just rambling i guess. I just like her and want to be in a relationship w/ her.

If there is one thing in my life that I have learned, no matter how much one person likes another, if the other person does not feel completely the same, those feelings cannot and will not grow in the heart of that other person no matter what.

The saddest thing is when somebody gets married and one spouse is totally in love with the other, but the other spouse likes this person but does not love them and figures in time they will grow to love them. Those marriages always end in failure. Those couples are always miserable.

Perhaps that popular girl I mentioned above had a crush on me for all those years. I don't know. But I do know that she was never a girl I wanted to ask out. She was good looking, she was my friend in grade school, but no matter what she thought of me, I could have never developed those feelings in my heart for her, and even if I had said yes to going out with her, I doubt it would have worked out well in the end, assuming we took things beyond one date, because I did not really have feelings for that girl, and could not have feelings for that girl. And perhaps this girl you like is the same way. Liking somebody as a friend isn't the end, and it's far better than getting in to a more serious relationship with them and hearing "Let's just go back to being friends" later on. That kills the relationship dead.

I do hope things work out for you, Optimal, but I hope that if they don't, you realize that you could be saving your self from some serious pain later on that could be avoided now.

[James]

I have a problem that I have a tendency to attract the unstable :) - By unstable, I mean unpredictable, often have been subjected to a poor quality of life and swing from extreme to extreme. Now, I have nothing against this character type as a friend and those who have been subjected to terrible experiences have my sympathy, but IMO they make difficult relationship material.

I yearn for the nice straight forward girls who don't give me a second glance and then have to back away from the cleary non desirable (IMO).... bah... :)

The other problem I have is one that was mentioned earlier - seeming unapproachable. In the past I have been misread as a cold and cool archetype, which interests girls and then when they realise I'm not mysterious and aloof, but just a rather straightforward, nice guy, they lose interest.

Oh, deary me, the love game. Irritating really. Love has a tendency to compound problems and prevent you from reaching your full potential, but of course, we all crave it. We need to love and need to be loved. A mixture of ego and hormones. What a lovely mix that is....

[Maxie Zeus]

Then there's the lovely "Groucho Marx" reaction: "I don't want to be involved with the kind of girl who would be involved with a guy like me." For most of us it kicks in after the anatomies have, uh, collided. In my case it hits before things even get close to that point. I just collapse like a souffle at the moment of triumph. Extremely awkward, that.

No comfort to some of you out there, but each victory contains the seeds of a fresh defeat. :(

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Well, for all of you who got a gal pal, look on the bright side: "It is better to have loved and lost than to have not loved at all". I'm sure that should get a reply on how much that's true...:rolleyes:

Yeah, good point on love, SSJ: It stinks with that combo....animals are lucky. All they gotta do is romp around the night, we humans get to evlove sentience and emotion, thus having a desire for what we call love....

.....but I'm just joking :D. Calhoun made a good point on how one may not love the other; I've seen those relationships....

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus
Then there's the lovely "Groucho Marx" reaction: "I don't want to be involved with the kind of girl who would be involved with a guy like me."

Dude, you got that so right. If a girl shows interest in me, the natural response from me is to wonder what in the world is wrong with her.

[I.R Joey]

Yeah weirdest thing though here's what happened the three times I actually asked a girl to go out with me.


1.) I've liked this girl in my class for a few months. I finally get the nerve to tell her how I feel, the only problem is that I can't do it myself, I'm not that brave. Okay maybe its a bit tacky for me to ask someone out through a freind but, I did (hey I was in 7th grade) . So I ask her if she got my messege, and she said that she did, and then she tells me that she only wants me as a freind. Needless to say that we were not close for much longer.

2.) One year later I have a thing for a freind of mine. She's intelligent, beutiful, and basically just wow ya know. I ask her out and she says maybe later on, and then she starts going out with another guy. After they break up I ask her again, and she says she can't. So nothing builds from there. Ironically she was the person I was suppouse to see Final Fantasy with even though we graduated from 8th grade more then 2 years prior (we'd kept in touch.) Oh well.

3.) A little later I ask this other girl out, with a note this time (I know I'm pathetic) She later adresses me and laughs really hard at it, I think she thought I was joking. We were not really close for a while, but she actually apoligised for the way she treated me. I told her it was okay, and that it was an immature thing on my part to even approach her. I talked to her a few nights ago and we got along great.


Well there you go, see I am pretty sad.

[Calhoun07]

Man, I had experiences like that in school. I did the note thing, did the ask thru a friend thing, but I did one more pathetic thing. I kept on calling this one girl I really liked on the phone, feeling I could talk to her, but each time I heard her voice on the other end, I hung up! When I finally got the nerve to say anything, it was so pathetic I would have been better off not trying at all.

At least we learn from our mistakes!

[Joe Tully]

Well there you go, see I am pretty sad.

Hey, that's not true. At least you tried, man. What I always figure with girls like that is, hey, if they are unable to realize what a cool guy you are, and they can't treat you with the respect that you deserve, then they don't deserve to go out with you. Let 'em do whatever they want, someone better will come along, someone who's nice and who respects you, and that will be better than anything that you could ever work out with her. If a girl treats you with any less respect than you deserve, and doesn't realize how great you are, you're probably better off without her. And someone better and nicer will come along.

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

(sniff) Tully, that was so insparational! I think we needed something to lift our spirits....

[I.R Joey]

Mr. tully that sounded straight out of an after school special, LOL.


Anyway, I do really respect the girl in question. She's a great person, I don't think she intended me any harm by it.

[Joe Tully]

Maybe, but it always makes me feel better when some girl treats me like junk. Besides, I think there's a lot of truth to it.

[James]

Originally posted by calhoun07

At least we learn from our mistakes!

That's it. If things go wrong/pear shaped/don't work out, look at your involvement and consider what YOU did wrong, irrespective of whose fault it was that things didn't pan out.

That way you don't make the same mistake twice. I think this is vital when dealing with relationship - and perhaps one of the hardest objectives. You have to leave your heart behind and thing with your head.....

Why isn't it like it is in the films? :)

[Frozen]

Originally posted by SJJ


That's it. If things go wrong/pear shaped/don't work out, look at your involvement and consider what YOU did wrong, irrespective of whose fault it was that things didn't pan out.

That way you don't make the same mistake twice. I think this is vital when dealing with relationship - and perhaps one of the hardest objectives. You have to leave your heart behind and thing with your head.....

Why isn't it like it is in the films? :)

'Cos real life's better!

[James]

Originally posted by Frozen


'Cos real life's better!

You must either have a stonking life or have a tendency to watch some very bad/depressing films.... being the jealous type, I think I prefer to imagine you have the latter although I imagine you are about to correct me on that....

Damn, and I used the word 'stonking' again. What is wrong with me? Is this way I'm currently single? :D

[Calhoun07]

Question for the single posters:

Do you feel discriminated against at your job because you are single, that you are expected to work longer hours and have more of an availability and get less of a raise come time for raises? Just curious. There was a good article about it on MSN.

[Frozen]

SJJ wrote:

You must either have a stonking life or have a tendency to watch some very bad/depressing films.... being the jealous type, I think I prefer to imagine you have the latter although I
imagine you are about to correct me on that....

OK, I'll admit it - life's pretty peachy...


Damn, and I used the word 'stonking' again. What is wrong with me? Is this way I'm currently single?

What's wrong with 'stonking'? What a great word! Almost as good as 'corking'...

Or 'cracking'

[The Mad Hatter]

"Pear shaped?" Ah! So that's a British way of saying that something's fudged up.

I was wondering, ever since those cavemen in Banjo-Tooie say "all go shape of the pear" after you barf a clockwork Kazooie egg over their heads and blow it up near the gaps in their armor where their butts hang out. Now I know what's going on!

(pause)

Not that most of you have any clue what I'm talking about.

(quietly slinking away from the thread)

[killercroc]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Man, I had experiences like that in school. I did the note thing, did the ask thru a friend thing, but I did one more pathetic thing. I kept on calling this one girl I really liked on the phone, feeling I could talk to her, but each time I heard her voice on the other end, I hung up! When I finally got the nerve to say anything, it was so pathetic I would have been better off not trying at all.

At least we learn from our mistakes!

Yeah, I've been there. Seemed like I would get my nerve up to call and then she wouldn't be there, then I'd have to get my nerve up again. Sweaty palms, etc. Once I got my nerve up to call a girl and she wasn't there, so I just kept calling since I had already screwed up my courage. When I finally got ahold of her she said she had been locked out of the house but could hear the phone ringing, and how many times had i called anyway? How humiliating.

My point is that it didn't work out with that girl and in my teenage mind, it was the end of the world. Well, now I'm happily married, and realize how much better off I am with my wife than I would have been with her. So everything happens for a reason. If you guys aren't hooking up with who you think is the only woman for you, there's probably a reason. Your true love is still out there, you just haven't met her yet.

[Lachesis]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Man, I had experiences like that in school. I did the note thing, did the ask thru a friend thing, but I did one more pathetic thing. I kept on calling this one girl I really liked on the phone, feeling I could talk to her, but each time I heard her voice on the other end, I hung up! When I finally got the nerve to say anything, it was so pathetic I would have been better off not trying at all.

At least we learn from our mistakes!

Yeah. . .did all that. I had a pretty rotten time in high school. Of he three guys I liked in my last two years, one already had a girlfriend, one was manic-depressive, and one turned out to be gay. But you roll with the punches, and Mr. Manic-Depressive was a lot of fun. ;)

[The Old Maid]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Question for the single posters:

Do you feel discriminated against at your job because you are single, that you are expected to work longer hours and have more of an availability and get less of a raise come time for raises? Just curious. There was a good article about it on MSN.

Never had a work-related problem, but for individuals I've had some odd conversations. Someone I knew got married, loved it, and decided it was high time I did too. This person suggested gently that I should make certain I wasn't resisting God's plan for my life....It didn't annoy me because I knew she was just giddy with love.

Still, there was a good article on the cover of Christianity Today that dealt with the same topic. That writer said that she didn't like being treated as incomplete, not to mention she didn't like being sent to the Singles Ministry isolation ward. She felt they spent too much time wondering why they weren't paired up. Her problem was that she went to worship to talk to God, to get mental nourishment, etc., none of which had anything to do with her marital status. She had nothing in common with the classroom aside from being single. In the end she chose a church that did not have a singles ministry. It was, she felt, the only way to be treated as a person instead of a "condition."

In fact the article included a quote from a woman in the Catholic church. She loved the fact that for her, single life was considered a calling and every bit as valid as the married life. That's a message that has gotten lost nowadays.

I think that's the problem among well-meaning friends. Friends who judge you based on whether you fit in are always going to find some way in which you don't. Always be a person first.

[Calhoun07]

I do have to say that I have noticed the expectancy to have a wider availability than married people at work, and at times I feel they look down at me if I don't work extra hours tho they don't expect the same from marrieds. So I think that article on MSN really hit home some valid points. The point it made about single people making 14% less than married people struck me as interesting, tho I don't know if the numbers they based that on are all that correct.

I do have to say that as a single person, I make enough to survive and still have some left over each month for savings and to buy things I want, so I guess I can't complain all that much!

[James]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
"Pear shaped?" Ah! So that's a British way of saying that something's fudged up.

I was wondering, ever since those cavemen in Banjo-Tooie say "all go shape of the pear" after you barf a clockwork Kazooie egg over their heads and blow it up near the gaps in their armor where their butts hang out. Now I know what's going on!

(pause)

Not that most of you have any clue what I'm talking about.

(quietly slinking away from the thread)

Indeed for something to go 'pear shaped' is to go all wrong. It's a phrase old ladies normally use rather than 25 year old boys..... this situation withstanding...... :)

[sun]

I am 55 and was married for 6 years it broke up in 92, guess I don't fit in here...The relationship broke up because we stopped caring for each other. Some meanness and undercutting. What was especially bad, was she made fun of me. Divorce is hell, even though it went relatively smoothly, no children. At one point, my wife was 5 months pregnant, but we lost the baby..
I have dated a number of women. Last one got sick of some of my excentric ways. I am very senitive, warm, not bad looking, I try to be very kind, but she wanted someone who had fewer worries and more zip. She did not like cartoons, went to a few full lenght toons that I loved, and she did not. (I found out later that she was doing me a favor) She liked deep dramas. IT is rough putting oneself on the line to go out, no matter what age you are,and no matter what your experience is. good luck to all, I guess I will keep trying, but often, I just want to give up. thanks

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Ouch....my deepest sympathies. I have to say that sometimes I wonder why MEN are the ones who get all the bad raps when it comes to rocky marriges....that wife sounded horrendus.
...yeah, I'm a bit of a worrywart too. I have loosened up a lot, but still am one enough to be called one....eh. It's who I am. Oh well!
....eh. I suppose for all the singles out there, the time will come when they meet thier soul mate. Keep trying to find him or her, everyone!

[sun]

Thank you.

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by Gotlucky64
The only time a girl asks me it out, it's just a joke. For me that really sucks. I'm a nice guy, great to talk to, very sensitive.... Oh wait! I know why no girls want to ask me out! BECASUSE I'M FAT!. Sadly for me I weigh over 200 pounds (Mostly because I'm tall.I am currently on a diet. My goal is to become 170 pounds.) Although I am very handsome to many people.I'm just afraid of high school because I'll be made fun of. :( Though I am very popular. No girl likes me though.... :( I am a smart kid. But girls don't like smart people. They want smelly braindead jocks. I'm gonna hate high school. :(

My god! There is another kid like me! Too bad we don't live in the same area of New York state. BTW, Peter, check your e-mail. You'll be surprised!

[James]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
I am 55 and was married for 6 years it broke up in 92, guess I don't fit in here...The relationship broke up because we stopped caring for each other. Some meanness and undercutting. What was especially bad, was she made fun of me. Divorce is hell, even though it went relatively smoothly, no children. At one point, my wife was 5 months pregnant, but we lost the baby..
I have dated a number of women. Last one got sick of some of my excentric ways. I am very senitive, warm, not bad looking, I try to be very kind, but she wanted someone who had fewer worries and more zip. She did not like cartoons, went to a few full lenght toons that I loved, and she did not. (I found out later that she was doing me a favor) She liked deep dramas. IT is rough putting oneself on the line to go out, no matter what age you are,and no matter what your experience is. good luck to all, I guess I will keep trying, but often, I just want to give up. thanks

My sympathies sir, it's a cold comfort to know that we all empathise on the same matter. It's a pity it's such an uncomfortable one for all.

[Kylewayne]

keep on trying guys! You know it's not that easy for a woman to find her soul-mate either.:( I am still single but enjoying the single life for now. Maybe I am picky or too choosy. Or if a guy is interestead in me, I usully ask myself "why me?"

As for asking a guy out...um...I do sometimes but I am always shy. I am afraid of rejection. I usually become nervous or silent if I like a guy because I always have in my head all these questions racing up in my mind like: Does he find me ugly or pretty, why couldn't I be more prettier or why me. I am sure you guys go through this to. :)
The one thing I can't do is date...well find unattractive...is a man who hasn't had an education. A man who doesn't have a college degree or doesn't know what he wants from his life, or doesn't have any goals is just a turn off for me. ok I told ya I was picky :D
Why? some of you may ask is because I know what I want and where I want to see myself in the future. :D

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[The Mad Hatter]

Kylewayne, I'll let you in on a little secret... guys LOVE it when girls ask them out. You think it's easy to be the one to make the first move? Guys get nervous and fearful too when they want to ask a gal out, so it's very gratifying to have that responsibility lifted. It's also a huge ego-boost... even if the guy isn't interested in the gal, the guy will be happily gratified that the gal had thought enough of him to ask her out. Hey, I'd feel that way!

So, if there's someone you're truly interested in... it's certainly worth taking the initiative.

[NewMaxFranklin]

In response to Calhoun07:

I've noticed a bit of descrimination in favor of people who are married and/or have children at my job. I don't think it's fair, because the people in question made the choice to be in that situation and shouldn't get prefferential treatment. Because I'm not goin to school, it's like my time is worth nothing to them.

More exasperating, however, is the fact that I get saddled with bull for working hard. Because I'm pretty new and work really hard, when I slip-up in some way (or if someone believes I have) it's blown into a big deal, where I'm accused of "not having consideration for other people, etc. While others that have been there a long time do a sub-par job constantly and it's accepted. That get's me really mad. Everyone assumes they can tell me what to do because I'm new (though I work harder than anyone at my level, which is why I work the most hours of anyone in my position.) They know I do a good job. You'd think they'd give me a little respect.

I comfort myself with the knowledge that I'll be moving on to better things soon, while these people will be stuck in their tiny worlds for the rest of their existance. I guess it's good for me. I'm learning tolerance. When I'm in a position of athority, down the road, I'll use my experience to be a better boss/coworker than those that I've worked with.

[NewMaxFranklin]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Kylewayne, I'll let you in on a little secret... guys LOVE it when girls ask them out. You think it's easy to be the one to make the first move? Guys get nervous and fearful too when they want to ask a gal out, so it's very gratifying to have that responsibility lifted.

I have a lot of respect for girls who ask guys out. I believe it's the other girls who have a problem with it. There they are trying to bait a guy and here's this other girl who goes out and grabs one.

I like a girl who takes the initiative. It shows a lot of confidence.

One girl in high school, who I'd really liked for years, asked me out one day. I only said know because I wasn't interesed in dating anyone at that point in my life. But the incident only made me respect her more. Later on, she went steady with an underclassman. I'm sure she did the asking. How cool is she?; asking out an underclassman.

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Hatter and NMax: You said it all....which means I have nothing left to post. Dang.;)
But still, don't be shy in asking....you won't regret it later, and it'll help out a lot in becoming an outgoing person.

So singles get discriminated in the workplace! Geez....singles get it so hard. Car insurance, job discrimination, missing the payments on the apartment....maybe Peter Pan had a point when he said he didnt want to grow up. Calhoun, eventually, you'll get outta that precadiment by either being promoted or simply by biding your time and become known as a regular....oh, yeah, set an example and do not bash any new guys if they come! :)

[Nightflower]

I usually do the asking because I get tired of waiting for the guy to summon enough courage. I'm also the first one to kiss, because I am a very impatient individual. My friend went two months of trying to kiss his (now former) girlfriend, but put it off to reasons like "it's not the right moment" or "there was no opportunity". Silly boys.

[sun]

Being in high school is a rough experience...Nice people, sensitive people, have a hard time. It doesn't take much to make us feel bad. Some people can be very cruel, but we must know that acting right to others is what is right.
In high school, I was a loner, but made friends with those that would accept some of my oddities.. Some of those people, are still my friends 40 years later.
I taught high school for 27 years, and observed how mean and stupid some can be to those of us who are sensitive. Those mean, put downers,(I can use other language, but wont) are wrong, and we are right. There are many of us out there, we must stick together to get thru high school, to whatever is afterwards. It can be better, but we must hang in there against the negativity which can make us feel bad.......One answer, is clearly this board, and toons..They are fun, enjoyable, and can help us get thru. Good luck to all :) ps, some girls do like smart guys, it is just meeting them that is tough... Believe me, I have been there .)

[Calhoun07]

I like it when girls ask, also, but the ones I like NEVER ask me. The only girls I really like I meet thru work, either employees or customers, and my hands are tied at both jobs, cuz even if I like a girl, and think she could like me, no matter how much I like her, there is squat I can do! I could lose my job or get sued and get in deep trouble if I asked a girl out that was a customer or even an employee. So I just don't, tho there are times I really wish I could. So, I think girls should ask guys out more! If some of those find lady customers asked me, I'd agree to it in a heartbeat, but I cannot ask them! Oh, the world we live in sucks!

[Frozen]

Sued? For real? That must be an American thing, because I've never heard of anybody here in England getting sued for asking a girl out! Is it classified as harrasment or something..?

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

I think it does count as harrasment....the Simpsons eppy "Grade School Confidential" summed it up VERY well.
I'd love it if a girl asked me out! I'm just to shy right now....and the fact that with school coming up a date is the last thing on my mind....but still, it'd be nice! :)
....If a guy is nervous in asking, Nightflower, it's 'cause he is shy....and afraid of rejection. Guys feel embarrassed when the gal may say no....and they do not need that embarrasment....so chalk up another reason we have to summon up courage to ask for a date.

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Since everybody's talking about girls asking guys out, here's a little semi-related trivia - bear with me 'cuz I'm relying on memory and mine isn't good:

In Victorian times, women were allowed to do the wooing on leap years (I guess it was considered strange back then for them to do it on "normal" years). And here's where it gets interesting - if a man refused a woman's advances, he actually got FINED for it - the price could be anywhere from $500 to a silk dress.


As for my own dating experiences, there's not a lot to tell. I didn't do that much in high school and even now, not much more in college. I'm not too worried about finding "the one" - as long as one has friends and a fairly active social life, I think it'll be okay.
:cool:

whew, this is a bit much for a mere Newbie...think I'll go work on an avatar or somethin.'

[Brian Cruz]

I'm getting into this a little late, but here's my status anyway...

I'm not married yet, though it'll certainly happen eventually. I've been going out with Eileen (a.k.a. Harley the webmaster) for over 6 years now. We met through the original Warner Bros. Club on the old Prodigy service in 1995. And she's the one who asked me out, totally out of nowhere, after exchanging maybe 4 e-mails. I thought she must be a nut to ask out a guy she hardly knew, but as it turned out she's the wonderful person I've ever known. Fate was kind to me.

[Frozen]

I asked my wife out for our first 'date' (ugh... Americanisms) ;) we met for a quiet drink, then went to see a film (the Mask of Zerro, of all things!), then we just drove 'round in my car for HOURS, just talking, just because I didn't want to drop her home yet - and she didn't want to go home either. Anyways, after a few hours, I finally dropped her home, and we chatted a little more, then I just sorta smiled and said "Y'know, I think you're really cool." She said "And I think you're really cool too." And then, well, I don't know who kissed who first - we kinda just kissed each other.

It was on that first night out that we knew we'd both met that 'special person' that everybody always talks about, and that's how it should be. If it's strained, or if you have to comprimise, or have any qulams, then it's not right. I went about, what, 12 years thinking I'd never meet the 'right' woman. I went through the mill, made a lot of mistakes, had my heart broken, hated myself - the whole kaboodle, but I came through it, and it made me stronger, and that's all it can do. Life isn't a bowl of cherries all the time - but you have to take the knocks to really appreciate how lucky you are when everything turns right. I can honestly say I have never been as happy as I am now with Chantal, with my job, with my art, and with my life in general - but I've had the dark times to compare 'em to, and to make me appreciate just how lucky I am...

I've been knocked as low as a man can get, but I came back, and I'm not taking any prisoners any more. All you loners and geeks and nerds - don't be ashamed. Be proud. You have a life, you have interests, you have passions in your life, and they should be embraced and celebrated, not something to be ashamed of. I'm a geek, my wife's a geek - and that's what makes us individuals, that what's makes us special to each other. Take your individuality, and make it your energy - all the little toe-rags who laughed at me when I was a kid 'cos I liked cartoons and comics and toys and Dungeons and Dragons I know, for a fact, would give their back teeth to have my job now, or my wife, or my house. So don't be ashamed - be an individual, and revel in it.

I don't know why I typed all this, it just kinda came out. I'm sorry if I've bored anybody, I'm sorry if I've rambled on... but IF you've read this, and IF you take something away from it, then God go with you. And all the best to you, my friend...

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Frozen
Sued? For real? That must be an American thing, because I've never heard of anybody here in England getting sued for asking a girl out! Is it classified as harrasment or something..?

Dude, the sue happy culture makes me want to pack it all up and fly off to Australia. Not that I've been sued, but yeah, you CAN get sued for harassment if the girl feels "threatened" if you ask her out. You'd more than likely just lose your job. All I'm saying is if you ask a girl once, and she says no, if you continue beyond that point then I could see where it would be a problem, worthy of firing and even maybe suing if the guy persists too much, but it's gotten to the point where you gotta be careful to ask her even ONCE, especially if you are on somebody else's time clock. If I met that same girl off the clock, off company property, out of my work uniform, I could ask her out. But I can't go to the grocery store in my Blockbuster shirt, for example, and ask a girl there if she'd like to go out with me, even if I am off the clock, because I am in uniform, and I am representing the company off the clock and if I do anything while in that uniform that gets back to the store manager or district manager, I could be fired for it. That's how you-know-what uped the country is right now.

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Brian Cruz
I'm getting into this a little late, but here's my status anyway...

I'm not married yet, though it'll certainly happen eventually. I've been going out with Eileen (a.k.a. Harley the webmaster) for over 6 years now. We met through the original Warner Bros. Club on the old Prodigy service in 1995. And she's the one who asked me out, totally out of nowhere, after exchanging maybe 4 e-mails. I thought she must be a nut to ask out a guy she hardly knew, but as it turned out she's the wonderful person I've ever known. Fate was kind to me.

DUde, I never knew that! Met thru the Warner Bros Club, huh? There is this girl I know online that I would LOVE to meet, but she's way down in Louisiana, so I don't know when or if we ever will. I met one girl I met on line but we never really hit it off. It was more awkward.

Soooo...this should give you all the more reason to do the Toonzone Personals! heeeeheeeeeee!

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Frozen
I asked my wife out for our first 'date' (ugh... Americanisms) ;) we met for a quiet drink, then went to see a film (the Mask of Zerro, of all things!), then we just drove 'round in my car for HOURS, just talking, just because I didn't want to drop her home yet - and she didn't want to go home either. Anyways, after a few hours, I finally dropped her home, and we chatted a little more, then I just sorta smiled and said "Y'know, I think you're really cool." She said "And I think you're really cool too." And then, well, I don't know who kissed who first - we kinda just kissed each other.

It was on that first night out that we knew we'd both met that 'special person' that everybody always talks about, and that's how it should be. If it's strained, or if you have to comprimise, or have any qulams, then it's not right. I went about, what, 12 years thinking I'd never meet the 'right' woman. I went through the mill, made a lot of mistakes, had my heart broken, hated myself - the whole kaboodle, but I came through it, and it made me stronger, and that's all it can do. Life isn't a bowl of cherries all the time - but you have to take the knocks to really appreciate how lucky you are when everything turns right. I can honestly say I have never been as happy as I am now with Chantal, with my job, with my art, and with my life in general - but I've had the dark times to compare 'em to, and to make me appreciate just how lucky I am...

I've been knocked as low as a man can get, but I came back, and I'm not taking any prisoners any more. All you loners and geeks and nerds - don't be ashamed. Be proud. You have a life, you have interests, you have passions in your life, and they should be embraced and celebrated, not something to be ashamed of. I'm a geek, my wife's a geek - and that's what makes us individuals, that what's makes us special to each other. Take your individuality, and make it your energy - all the little toe-rags who laughed at me when I was a kid 'cos I liked cartoons and comics and toys and Dungeons and Dragons I know, for a fact, would give their back teeth to have my job now, or my wife, or my house. So don't be ashamed - be an individual, and revel in it.

I don't know why I typed all this, it just kinda came out. I'm sorry if I've bored anybody, I'm sorry if I've rambled on... but IF you've read this, and IF you take something away from it, then God go with you. And all the best to you, my friend...

That's really good to hear, Frozen. I did take something away from it. And i've got a lot to say to, so bear w/ me.

I guess first i better update you guys. What's going on w/ the girl i like is that she's kinda in the same situation that you're in KyleWayne. She wants me as a friend, but i can't think about her as a friend. But, she has agreed to keep going out w/ me, and just to keep an open mind about our future. I know that if she lets me, i will be the best boyfriend she has ever had, and i will never hurt her. Hopefully, i can get her to see that.

And here's something for you to think about, KyleWayne. I'll admit that i'm talking to my girl as much as i am to you, but hopefully you'll understand. I hear all the time how happy people are who've married their best friend. That makes the bond even stronger than w/ just romantically involved people. And i know from experience that being friends w/ someone i like makes me care about her even more and know that i won't hurt her. If you were to break up, then you break up, no big deal. The friendship part of him (again, i'm speaking from my personal experience, i really don't know this guy) won't hate you. And honestly, a break up might be the only way to get him to stop liking you. I know that there are a number of friends who try relationships that don't work out and they hate each other. But there are just as many that leave the two as good friends. And although i don't know statistics, it would seem that a lot of people look for a good friend to have a relationship w/, so there must be a lot of people who end up happy together. But don't rule him out just because he's your friend.

And i understand if it's just that you don't like him like that, but it's not fair to either of you really, to deny yourselves of the chance just because you're friends.

But, like i said, i'm pretty much just complaining about my own situation. I really don't know if yours is different from mine. But to all the women out there who are afraid of getting involved w/ a friend, please just consider what i said.

And good luck to everyone:)

[The Mad Hatter]

Frozen's type of "first meeting" situation has always sounded magical to me. You never know it's coming, and instead of being born through whatever activity that's being done, it comes from two people who connect so much that they simply love to be in each other's presence. I never thought it would happen to me, but it did... I met my current over what was supposed to be a quick cup of coffee that lasted all night. It's wonderful.

And Frozen, I say more power to you. It's great that you've remained yourself all these years and have gotten a wonderful life, a great gal, and a truly fantastic job making... um, what was the name of that game again? You told us once, and it's on the tip of my tounge...

...you're not falling for that? Damn. :)

[Calhoun07]

I met the girl I felt I should be with six years ago in Iowa, at a singles get together thru church. We really hit it off quite well, and there was never an awkward moment between us from the get go. My problem was I wanted to rush into marriage too quickly and I killed what we had. She broke it off with me during our engagement! And that's a pretty long story cut short for ya all! But I did come rather close once before!

[Nightflower]

I'd never date any of my guy friends. I value our friendships too much... I did it once with my then best friend, and it just wasn't the same. We ran out of things to say, we kind of stopped talking to each other, and the thing slowly died. We never officially broke up...we just didn't say anything to each other. I didn't talk to him again for a year, but then we started talking again and we're back to being friends. So I didn't lose him; but for the longest while, it seemed that way, and that made me depressed. You lose a lot more when you break up with a friend than when you break up with some guy you were attracted to and didn't really know well before you started going out.

I'm pretty shy, and I HATE rejection more than anyone else I know (Kind of weird for someone who posts her art publicly on a regular basis, huh?) I get way embarrassed if the guy says no, it's the same for girls.....fortunately for some guys, I'm also terribly impatient :D

Mask of Zorro rules.

Australia rules. The closest thing I ever saw to a wild kangeroo there though, was a kangeroo crossing warning sign.

Very glad to hear that, Brian! :D

My boyfriend's a computer geek if there ever was :) He likes Dungeons and Dragons, video games, text-based RPGs, spends all his time on the computer, loves anime, even has katanas and bokkens and stuff. But I'm a geek too ^_^ Besides, he's cute :)

[Split56]

16. Guess what? I'm not married.

[NewMaxFranklin]

Wow! This thread is great! I'm so glad we're all sharing our feelings and experiences like this.

I have a sub-topic:

It's widely believed that guys choose/are attracted to, girls based on looks, while girls are less concerned with physical appearance. If this is true, then what initially attracts women to certain men, if not looks? When a girl is asked out by a guy she hardly knows, what makes her say yes or no?

The notion that women don't care how a guy looks puzzles me. I don't believe it. Help? Please?

P.S. If women don't care what guys look like, what's with that "You're not going to wear that, are you?" stuff.

Hope I didn't offend anyone, too much.

[Frozen]

I concur, this is a great thread - I'm truly impressed with everyboody's frank and open nature. Talk about being amongst friends...

As for the whole 'what attracts women to men/looks' thing, as far as I can gather from my wife, she was attracted to me not because of how I look, but because of how well we connected -y'know, that 'spark' thing everybody talks about. She know... sorry, WE know straight away that we got on like a house on fire - we made each laugh, we had animated, exciting conversations about topics we both loved, and we LISTENED to what each other had to say -we respected each other. THAT'S what attracted us to each other. If a woman meets that guy that makes her laugh, listens, takes care of her, doesn't lie to her etc, then she can live wuth him not being Tom Cruise or whoever - BUT that doesn't mean she doesn't want him to look his best. You can't get away with not shaving, bathing, dressing tidily/well just 'cos a woman loves you. Yes, she does love you, so she wants to show how proud she is of her man and show you off - so you gotta try and look your best. It's the least you can do!

That's how I understand it - maybe the girls here can shed more light..?

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

It's all tastes, really. Some women go for bodybuilders, and some go for nerds. But I will agree that those less privileged (Not stud material) have to work harder in the dating field. Me, I'm not a traditional geek, but far from a stud. I'm more of a laid back, slacker geek. I don't talk about "geek" things ("I got a new C3458 Processor for my c12324 ignition radiator...."), and I dress pretty ordinary, but I'm not a muscular build. Nor am I fat. I'm "wiry." :D

But I try to take an interest in many things, and that gives me some versatility in conversations...

[Calhoun07]

As women (and men) grow older, the physical qualities are less important as the qualities of what Frozen was talking about go up. A lot of young girls would not go for a guy with a belly roll, but as they get older, they realize that's not a big deal if the guy is great and treats them right. But studies show as women enter their thirties, they are not so hung up on looks as women entering their twenties.

For me, it doesn't matter if a woman is fat or thin, I don't judge a woman like that. It's how you connect that really matters. I look back at the girls who liked me, and I was just myself with those girls, so I think another important thing is just be yourself. If somebody can't like you for who you are, then that is their loss, not yours.

[NewMaxFranklin]

Originally posted by calhoun07
As women (and men) grow older, the physical qualities are less important as the qualities of what Frozen was talking about go up.

A lot of good that does me now(JK;))! I'm 18 and have never been in a relationship with a girl/woman. Now that I've been living alone for a while I'm getting a little antzy. Uhg! Me want woman!

I think I'm a decent looking guy. I mean, I'm no Tom Cruise, (I'm taller;).) I can't seem to meet nice women, who are in my general age bracket and don't already have a guy on their arm... and I feel like I'm missing out. ~sigh~ What to do?

I don't want to be fixed up. If I get fixed up by someone, that person will be all "So what's going on between you two," all the time. It would be an unnecessary complication, IMO.

Ok, I'm done "female dog"-ing and moaning... No wait... No, I'm done, I'm done.

[Inque]

Originally posted by NMaxFranklin

Me want woman!

So do I.

I'm looking for a girlfriend too. I've had some trouble with that. The responses I've gotten are "I don't see you as boyfriend. I just see you as a friend" or "You don't want to date me. Trust me."

I get a little jealous when I see those happy couples. I want to go to my junior prom with somebody!!


We should definitely start a Toonzone personals thread on the boards..............

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by NMaxFranklin
Wow! This thread is great! I'm so glad we're all sharing our feelings and experiences like this.

I have a sub-topic:

It's widely believed that guys choose/are attracted to, girls based on looks, while girls are less concerned with physical appearance. If this is true, then what initially attracts women to certain men, if not looks? When a girl is asked out by a guy she hardly knows, what makes her say yes or no?

The notion that women don't care how a guy looks puzzles me. I don't believe it. Help? Please?

P.S. If women don't care what guys look like, what's with that "You're not going to wear that, are you?" stuff.

Hope I didn't offend anyone, too much.

What's more important to me is if the guy has a sense of humor and is halfway intelligent (Intelligence is really important with me). All right, I admit it- it would be nice if the guy is cute. Not hot though, hot guys usually scare me (I scare easily)

I never bug my boyfriend about what he wears. The closest I do is tell him to shave once in a while... but only because his stubble tickles me.

Inque, you have a junior prom?

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

A personals thread....?
I dunno....I've always been leary of those things....almost everyone will usually make up something in them.
Besides that, most of us live far from each other....so it would pretty much be an online relationship....and those things I've always been leary of too. It's my belief that a different personality will always crop up on the 'net....I may blab and post a lot here, but I'm actually pretty quiet in real life, as an example. When people may finally meet in real life, they may be dissapointed at what they really see.

I'm sorry if I killed that idea....I'm just kinda pessimistic....sorry....

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I don't look for girls online. Doesn't float my boat. I'm describing myself simply for the sake of conversation.

[Jowy Blight]

Unless a girl asked me out, I would not go on a date. I have way too many things to do right now. I honestly don't know what girls thing of me anymore, things have changed since school started up again. I don't think they see me as a "just a friend" anymore. Always turning away shyly when I look or say someing to them. It's really weird and it scares me quite a bit, I don't think I'm really good looking or anything. Or maybe it's because I've been known to dress a little funny every now and then.

As for what BBuffoon said, You've got a point there. Online relationships don't really work out they way you want them too. Most of the people turn out to be really weird later on too.

[The Mad Hatter]

Erf. I suffered from "the friend" syndrome as well. Women really liked me, just not in that way. When I complained about it, the response I would get from people was "trust me, when you're older and women start looking for respectable men, that'll be an advantage." I used to want to bludgeon the people who would tell me that, but I've discovered that it really is true.

Online relationships can be really odd. There are a lot of strange folks out there, but it is possible to meet compelling, beautiful people as well... In fact, I did! But I was careful not to fall for her when we were talking, since I'm skeptical of online relationships too. I just decided to meet her over coffee, simply because I like meeting new people. I wasn't expecting an instant lover or anything. Yet somehow we got along like a house on fire. But then, we have the advantage of being in the same zip code. I knew a gal who got into an internet relationship with a guy from Canada, and that ripped her apart.

[Calhoun07]

I don't go for the whole online relationship thing either, really, tho there are some girls I have met online, but nothing that went anywhere. And I do have to say I try to be myself so totally on the computer. I think you can tell when somebody is lying to you on the computer because their stories will change, they won't be able to keep track of their false "facts" and will slip up somewhere. So I guess if I talk to a girl on line for any length of time, and she's not contradicting herself with things she told me last month, I feel confident, somewhat anyway, that she's being honest with me. And sometimes online relationships do turn into something more, but I think that's the exception instead of the rule.

I find most good looking girls are usually stuck up, but I know that's not the case. I just keep hoping I will find that hot girl who doesn't think she's better than everyone around her cuz she looks good. And I have met girls like that, but they are usually already taken, but at least I know they are out there!

[Inque]

Originally posted by Nightflower

Inque, you have a junior prom?
Yes, I do. And I don't want to go alone!!!!!!

[NewMaxFranklin]

Originally posted by Inque

So do I.

I'm looking for a girlfriend too. I've had some trouble with that. The responses I've gotten are "I don't see you as boyfriend. I just see you as a friend" or "You don't want to date me. Trust me."

We should definitely start a Toonzone personals thread on the boards..............

:eek: I thought you were a girl!!!:confused:

I just sort of assumed, because of the Inque obsession. Huh? Well, then. No biggie. :D

About the personals idea:

I wouldn't go to a personals websight with serious intent. But a Toonzone personals site is a different story. That I could get into. I'm game.;)

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Inque

Yes, I do. And I don't want to go alone!!!!!!

I had a junior prom too. I didn't want to go alone either. So, i didn't go:(

Well, here's hoping senior prom is better...

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Originally posted by NMaxFranklin

About the personals idea:

I wouldn't go to a personals websight with serious intent. But a Toonzone personals site is a different story. That I could get into. I'm game.;)

Same feeling here. Most people on these boards tend to be honest about themselves. And almost everyone is nice and smart to boot! :D You won't find anything here like, "Any ladies here want to date a built blond blue-eyed tan male model??" (You know those people are lying...if they were that good-looking, all they'd have to do is step into a singles bar for a date! :rolleyes: ) Also, thankfully, they won't post it in all caps. That's highly annoying.

Heh, you can tell I've been in chat rooms before, huh? (Not for dates, though.)

[Nightflower]

Well, if I wanted to be dishonest, it's a little late now- considering that people keep coming to my website and seeing my pictures :p

I'm actually pretty together now and not ashamed of myself (I didn't use to be), so there's no reason to lie.

Personals would be fun, but I wouldn't be able to participate :(

[Frozen]

I'd love to post a personal that went along the lines of 'One armed dwarf with big feet wishes to meet similiar for friendship and maybe more...' just to see the responces I'd get...

And no, I'm not a dwarf. And I have two arms. And I don't have big feet either. Not that I've had any complaints or anything... :o

[Salvor]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I don't go for the whole online relationship thing either, really, tho there are some girls I have met online, but nothing that went anywhere.
I met this crazy girl once on ICQ. Huge Daria fan (and sort of Daria "wannabe" actually). We chatted for certain lapse of time (about 2 months I think) and considered the idea of dating for real (at that time I had no girlfriend so such an idea didn't freak me out) -- oh, I forgot to mention she had sent me some pictures of her and god, she was really hot :)

Anyway after heeding all the contradictons her messages were more and more replete with, I soon discovered all she was telling me was a hoax from the beginning... therefore I had to bow to reason and stopped talking to her. Yes, imagination can bring about stunning mistakes...

[Frozen]

My wife and I stopped using ICQ because all we ever used to get was wierd perverts who wanted to know if Chantal liked to erm... accommadate men in unhygenic places :eek:

[Vin]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Erf. I suffered from "the friend" syndrome as well. Women really liked me, just not in that way. When I complained about it, the response I would get from people was "trust me, when you're older and women start looking for respectable men, that'll be an advantage." I used to want to bludgeon the people who would tell me that, but I've discovered that it really is true.


Hatter, I've had a similiar problem. I'm gong to be 16 in a few months now and I guess it's just me, but the girls who I'm friends with that I would THINK they'd like me always end up saying, " I just want to be friends" or "I don't want to ruin our great friendship" or "I don't like you like that, I like you as a friend." Riiiigggght. I think it's just an easy way of saying that they don't like me at all. I wouldn't say I'm unpopular, I'm not a "geek" nor do I like like a geek. I guess I used to look like one when I was younger. I was much heavier and then lost alot of weight and am more built. I don't understand girls, I never will...

[Vin]

Originally posted by Vince


Hatter, I've had a similiar problem. I'm gong to be 16 in a few months now and I guess it's just me, but the girls who I'm friends with that I would THINK they'd like me always end up saying, " I just want to be friends" or "I don't want to ruin our great friendship" or "I don't like you like that, I like you as a friend." Riiiigggght. I think it's just an easy way of saying that they don't like me at all. I wouldn't say I'm unpopular, I'm not a "geek" nor do I like like a geek. I guess I used to look like one when I was younger. I was much heavier and then lost alot of weight and am more built. I don't understand girls, I never will...

Oh, and I'm not implying that it's about looks. I don't think I look good enough anyways. I'm just saying, some of them wee my friends before my weight loss. Eveything is so confusing. Being a teenager is hard...lol

Oh, and about those personal ads or whatever some of you guys were suggesting, I doubt Harl or Brian will go for that. They are alot of sick people on the internet and who knows whose ading this stuff. So, I suggest you just not do that.

[Frozen]

I don't think the Personals thing was a serious idea anyway... Just a joke, Vince! :D

[Vin]

Originally posted by Frozen
I don't think the Personals thing was a serious idea anyway... Just a joke, Vince! :D

Oh, ok. This thread is so long, I only read that last few pages, so I guess I came in a little too late. LOL :)

[Fish]

Originally posted by Vince


Hatter, I've had a similiar problem. I'm gong to be 16 in a few months now and I guess it's just me, but the girls who I'm friends with that I would THINK they'd like me always end up saying, " I just want to be friends" or "I don't want to ruin our great friendship" or "I don't like you like that, I like you as a friend." Riiiigggght. I think it's just an easy way of saying that they don't like me at all. [...]I don't understand girls, I never will...

I disagree somwhat in what you are saying Vince. Those girls you are talking about they DO like you, but are not interrested in a GF BF relationship with you.
Guys like to get the message served in black or white. A No or yes and not some "I wanna be your friend" - (which is the lames line ever *GG*)
But what other way is there of telling a guy that you won't date him if you still really want to be his friend?
None cuz girls and boys/women and men, have different ways of aproachin the matter. As I said b'fore in this post. Men are Black and White, Women are colorfull.
I think that girls want to be gentle to the boy who is interrested, but instead they end up hurting his feelings.

I think a great relationship is all about chemestry. If a girl really was interrested she would date you. - unless she's just playing you for a fool:mad:

hmm...now I'm starting to contradict myself...ah what the Heck! I don't understand anything either! *LOL*


<>< F I S H ><>

[Calhoun07]

After reading past the late few posts here...I just have to ask....How would women feel if a man wasn't direct with her and said things like, "Let's just be friends." I bet it would drive them nuts. Yet they do the same to us. Ah, the paradox's of life!

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by calhoun07
After reading past the late few posts here...I just have to ask....How would women feel if a man wasn't direct with her and said things like, "Let's just be friends." I bet it would drive them nuts. Yet they do the same to us. Ah, the paradox's of life!

Who says that doesn't happen? That's what my ex said. But I was about to say the same to him. Sometimes it isn't a matter of being "direct", but telling the truth.

[James]

Originally posted by Frozen
My wife and I stopped using ICQ because all we ever used to get was wierd perverts who wanted to know if Chantal liked to erm... accommadate men in unhygenic places :eek:

Yes, they were irritating. ICQ is rather slow IMO. I'm happier using m/s messenger which, being microsoft in essence, seems to be more computer friendly (eg; MS Windows doesn't start biting at it's tale!!)..

[sun]

My last relationship, a woman that I loved, ended it rather abruptly when she said, I want to be your friend, but our relationship is over. I was stunned. She has called a number of times, and I know deep in my heart, that I cannot be friends with this person. I have not spent any time, other than phone time with her. The hurt, (even though this was 5 months ago) is still there. The trust in that person is gone. Love, is one of the most complicated, and intense of all emotions. It grows, evolves and often changes. At the bottom of long term love, I believe, is friendship and trust. This is not to deny, short term love, which is as real as any feeling. Adults who tell teenagers, that they cannot be in love, do not understand it. That first love, is often the most intense and greatest, and for some, it is right. . They stay with that person for a lifetime. For others ,it takes many attempts at relationships before you get it right. I am the latter, while many are the former.. Good luck to all

[optimal321]

I know that i usually have some depressing story about my so called "love life", but for some reason i just wanted to talk about how much i like this girl instead of all the emotional distress i'm putting myself through because of her. Because, to me, that's all that really matters. I just like her. That's why i do all this stuff. And i just forget that sometimes.

I guess the reason for this was one of Clayface's posts where he said his girlfriend brought a stuffed animal to bed. That just reminded me of the cutest story my girl told me (i guess i can call her "my girl" w/o meaning that she has any romantic involvmen persay w/ me. I just mean it for identification purposes). She was telling me about some of the stuffed toys she had and one of them was a Tickle Me Cookie Monster that was her work buddy. I won't go into the specifics, but her dad pays her for helping around the house, and this Cookie Monster has a sign on him saying to give the money to him and he will then spend it on cookies... uh, he means, give it to her:)

I didn't do that story justice at all, but that was one of the moments when i have been the most attracted to her. It's just so cute. I would just do anything for this girl. She deserves it. And i may not be fully satisfied w/ all that's happening (or not happening as the case may be) but, man, she's something else.

So there was my happy post for this thread. Hopefully it won't be the last.

[Kylewayne]

Ha! You think you guys only have dating problems or relationships troubles. ...most of the guys I like and feel comfortable with all tell me the same line "you are such a nice person, you remind me of my sister" or "you are the sister I never had" Is that good or bad?. It,s like they are telling me that I am off limits to them . They only want to be good friends.:( Please any male out there...please explain wheat do you mean by the .sister" phrase.

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

I'll look bad, becuase I do not have a sister....but I'll try to help.
...but my take is that it's in the same vein as "Let's be friends." I guess most guys with sisters consider the sis one of the few girls they aren't shy or awkward around...thus, they become 'friends'/'buddies'/etc., and in the case of your line, that's where it comes from; they were not scared too be around you and could talk too you honestly. Still, since I say it's in the "Let's be friends" vein, that's not a bad thing to say-just like "Let's be friends".

I REALLY hope you understand what I'm saying....I do not want to be more confusing than I already am...

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by kylewayne
Ha! You think you guys only have dating problems or relationships troubles. ...most of the guys I like and feel comfortable with all tell me the same line "you are such a nice person, you remind me of my sister" or "you are the sister I never had" Is that good or bad?. It,s like they are telling me that I am off limits to them . They only want to be good friends.:( Please any male out there...please explain wheat do you mean by the .sister" phrase.

What a dumb line to use on a girl, even if you only want to remain friends with her. No girl wants to be "like a sister." You got dealt un-tactful guys...

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo What a dumb line to use on a girl, even if you only want to remain friends with her. No girl wants to be "like a sister." You got dealt un-tactful guys...

I gotta agree. I have a sister, and I love her dearly, but I would NEVER try to flatter another woman by comparing her to my sister.

[Calhoun07]

I wouldn't consider it a compliment if a girl told me I reminded her of her brother. Why would any guy consider that remotely a compliment?

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

I dunno....what if the bro was supposedly perfect in everyway? Maybe then I'd take that as a compliment...:p

We should probably stick to the 'let's be friends' line...vauge enough not to offend anyone.

[Calhoun07]

I don't know..."Let's be friends" sure can be quite offensive! Everybody knows what a death blow it is to hear those words!

[DR. BELCH]

--you tell a lass you'd be honored to be her lover, and she responds with a simple and coy "Well...we'll see"? That's good...right? I mean, it's probably more promising that the "brother/sister" or "friends" line...isn't it?

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH
--you tell a lass you'd be honored to be her lover, and she responds with a simple and coy "Well...we'll see"? That's good...right? I mean, it's probably more promising that the "brother/sister" or "friends" line...isn't it?

I don't think so. Don't you remember what your mother meant when she said "We'll see"?

[optimal321]

Originally posted by kylewayne
Ha! You think you guys only have dating problems or relationships troubles. ...most of the guys I like and feel comfortable with all tell me the same line "you are such a nice person, you remind me of my sister" or "you are the sister I never had" Is that good or bad?. It,s like they are telling me that I am off limits to them . They only want to be good friends.:( Please any male out there...please explain wheat do you mean by the .sister" phrase.

Sorry, but it's the "we're just friends" thing. I guess everyone hates it when someone you romantically care for cares for you in a non-plutonic way, regardless of gender. I don't know if that's better than the other person hating you or not.

[The Mad Hatter]

I'll have to agree. Saying "you're like a sister" is the equal to saying "you're such a great friend." Ouch.

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
I'll have to agree. Saying "you're like a sister" is the equal to saying "you're such a great friend." Ouch.

There. See? Girls have to face it too. Goofs :p (j/k on the goofs)

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus


I don't think so. Don't you remember what your mother meant when she said "We'll see"?


Heh. How about:

"You remind me of my mother..."

Now there's a smart line <sarcasm>...

Even though it is actually true in many cases.

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo



Heh. How about:

"You remind me of my mother..."

Now there's a smart line <sarcasm>...

Even though it is actually true in many cases.

Well, you do know what Freud said...

[Calhoun07]

YOu know, "You remind me of my sister" may not be so bad, depending what part of the United States you are from. I am sure in Arkansas, it's a high compliment! (Jk, dr belch!)

I agree, there's no good that comes out of a "We'll see."
It's more like she means, "We'll see if you go away if I just try to ignore you."

[optimal321]

Originally posted by calhoun07
YOu know, "You remind me of my sister" may not be so bad, depending what part of the United States you are from. I am sure in Arkansas, it's a high compliment! (Jk, dr belch!)

I agree, there's no good that comes out of a "We'll see."
It's more like she means, "We'll see if you go away if I just try to ignore you."

I'm not sure. "We'll see" could mean something good. I mean, it is a lot better than "We won't see, and you can just pucker up and kiss my" but, what do i know:)

I guess, you'll just have to wait and see Belch!

[optimal321]

What the hell. I'll give you all one last update:

It didn't work. It's over. Not that it ever really started.

The girl i liked shot me down for good this time. If she doesn't want anything from me except to be friends, then it's her loss, dammit.

Except she's not even letting me be her friend.

And it's a little of my loss too.

I've just realized that she doesn't like me, and as of now, there's nothing i can do to make her. I'm not saying that she won't ever come around. I mean, high school hormones are very volatile. But if she does, then she does. If she doesn't, then she doesn't. I'm not going to wait around to see what she does.

But i don't hate her, or anything. She still is a great girl. The best. I know that she never wanted to hurt me. And she still doesn't. I still want to be friends w/ her.

Except things are really weird between me and her. I'm not saying it's all her fault, but i've tried to fix our friendship and have gotten very little reaction from her.

I just think it's kinda ironic how the reason she said she didn't want to be w/ me is because she didn't want to mess up our friendship. And how she said something to the effect of "let's just be friends". But look how much this thing has driven us apart.

And i really do understand where she's coming from. She's not as bad as i make her sound. She probably thinks that what she's doing is protecting me from hurting. But i think that this hurts worse than if we had given it a shot.

I often think back to that saying: "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all."

I just want that. I already know that i'm going to loose. I just want to be in love sometime.

The scary thing is that i might have already been in love. Several people think so. But i don't let myself think about it.

And it's alright if i loose a girlfriend. I'd actually rather not meet the "special person" when i'm 17. I just want someone i can go out and have fun w/. I just want someone i'm in love w/ to be in love w/ me. I just want a girlfriend.

But if she's not going to let it be her, then it's okay. I don't want to be in the "hopeless loser w/ a crush" situation anymore. I can still look back at what little time i had w/ her and remember how much fun i did have. And i know she had fun too. I know there was something in her that felt... something.

But for whatever reason, this is how it turned out. And i'm not going to sit around and cry about it anymore. If she doesn't want the optimal boyfriend, then that's her friggin' loss.

Even if that loss hurts me too.

Sorry i wrote for so long. But like i said, it's over now. And i'm going to be the one to benefit from it.

[Kylewayne]

To the Optimal man,




I can imagine your pain but I know how it feels when someone likes you alot but you only want to be friends. I had to let down a guy friend of mine when I was 17 and he took it pretty bad.

I didn't even know he liked me. I was clueless at first until his brother and his friends told me. I was flattered and everything but I knew that I could never like him the way he wants me too. I did have a talk with him telling him that I like his company but only wanted to stay friends.He kept persuing me but I finally snapped at him... He took it pretty bad and gave me a nickname as his "Queen of Ice" :p He finally accepted that I am not interested in him in the way that he wants me to.

Today, we are still good friends and have a laugh everytime he calls me his "Queen of Ice" I'm glad we remained friends and that he has accepted it.

The best advice I can give you is let her know that you will always be her friend. Then you have to back off and leave her alone. If she can't even stay friends with you then it's her loss and her problem. If she was REALLY your friend she would value your friendship no matter what but do not expect her to like you the way you like her. If I were you I would move on and find someone who values you and your friendship.
Take care :)

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by kylewayne
To the Optimal man,

kylewayne gives really good advice.

[Failure]

What an interesting topic! I've spent the past half hour just reading through it all. It's too bad I missed out on most of it.

To Optimal:
I'm sorry about what happened. I think I was in the exact same predicament a few years back. You try and try, because you think you can convice them to change their mind and heart. And when it doesnt work out, and you finally realize it, it's a pisser. Like a hammer to your heart.
I think it's going to be tough for you for a while. It's different for different people, but I took it pretty tough. You'll sway from a variety of emotions from sadness to anger to ambivalence and back and forth again.
For me, space was a good thing. You take a step back, take a deep breathe, and just think, clear your head, and think. If you want to stay friends with her, you should tell her that, but then I think you should just stay away for a little while. This is the time where things you might not mean get said, and that can be difficult to overcome in the future.

Essentially, this is just one of those things where time does heal the wound. Just keep your chin up and your thoughts positive. Good luck.

[optimal321]

Hey, thanks guys. It must not have come off that way in my post, but i'm really okay about the whole thing. I mean, it still hurts a lot, but there's nothing i can do. It was her choice. It'll end up hurting us both in the long run because we're both great people, who would miss out on the other's company. But for whatever reason, it ended up like this. Well, it's not really the end. Like i said, these high school romances often are "i hate you" one day and "i love you" a week later. But i'm just going to do my best to move on. It kind of reminds me of that line from the new Matchbox Twenty song:

"I'm not the first heart that you'll break,
You aren't the last beautiful girl."

[langden alger]

ok, my turn to ramble..that's probably what i love most about the internet...things i wouldn't dare mutter under my breath at a noisy nightclub, which i can express so freely and colorfully here. lol...anywayz, first off, to answer the question-no i'm not married, engaged or even dating...i was only in a serious relationship once in my life..the old saying says that theres somebody for everybody and she probably was it for me...she loved me more that anyone could possibly love any one thing in this world. there wasn't a thing that she wouldn't have done for me and in an act of sheer classic stupidity i let her go...now i find myself saying to her "i love you so much' in my mind when i should have said it so many more times in the past..she's moved out of state with her new boyfriend and i've really got now way to contact her even if i wanted to...i've also fallen out of a friendship with somebody who i believed was my best friend...now that i look at it though i was pretty much being used. the whole thing was hollow..it hurts but it's the truth i realize it. we've become pretty diffrent people over the past few years anyhow..we havent talked in a while..these few things have probably factored into my developing what i believe is some severe depression.. i havent had it diagnosed or anything, but it sure feels like it and what the hey, everybody's doin it!:D lol...i've also got a case of social anxiety disorder. crowds and public places have been starting to make me pretty shakey...i've basically buired myself in this world of sci-fi, comics, super heros, tv and action figure collecting, which has kept me pretty alienated from human contact...but iif there's one thing i've got it's imagination! i've been building my ideal woman ala' weird science lol...here's her profile:


1.funny, but not funnier than me of coarse

2.smart but well...not smarter than i am natually:p

3.nagging but the good kind of nagging as in "honey you really should work on having some more sex or 'honey could you try and be a little less charming and good looking." that's all i ask.

4.looks-as far as looks, well you probably can't go wrong with that dorritos commercial girl..you know the one with the "ohh baby!" split move..probably throw in a dash of trish stratus and a touch of jessica alba too.

that's what i've got so far lol...btw-it probably wouldn't hurt to make her into all of my hobbies and interests too. oh yeah i'm also boredline insanity, or cabin fever whatever you wanna call it..ahh well, never hurt anybody i guess right?;) lol...thanks for listening.

[Kylewayne]

originally posted by langden alger

these few things have probably factored into my developing what i believe is some severe depression.. i havent had it diagnosed or anything, but it sure feels like it and what the hey, everybody's doin it! lol...i've also got a case of social anxiety disorder. crowds and public places have been starting to make me pretty shakey...i've basically buired myself in this world of sci-fi, comics, super heros, tv and action figure collecting, which has kept me pretty alienated from human contact...but iif there's one thing i've got it's imagination! i've been building my ideal woman ala' weird science lol...here's her profile:

Don't close yourself up my friend not healthy. Try to talk to someone or better yet rant as much as you want on these boards:D Since i never saw you around these boards...WELCOME...hope you enjoy your stay here :)

PS: *ahem* your profile for your ideal woman ala' weird science needs work. What's a matter I am not good enough for you ;) :D :rolleyes: :eek: :p :o :p

[Nightflower]

Hopefully, he was just kidding...

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

Hm....my ideal gal...we actually had to write a list of those traits we'd like in the opposite gender in a class of mine.

Smart
Funny
Kind
Sensitive
Hard-working
Cheerful

That's it so far...AND, they can be better than me in those requirements. ;) As for looks, well, I admit-I look at a pretty face as much as any guy, but if I'm gonna try to be serious about getting a girlfriend (which I have lately), I figured I shouldn't concentrate on that-besides, I'm ugly myself, so going after someone hot just for thier looks would be terribly hypocritical...

[The Dork Knight]

Well my love life is a rocky road of saddness. This year I've asked out 9 girls.... Two went out with me while seven did'nt. Last year I asked out a girl, she went out with me for three days. You know why? She felt sorry for me..... This year I went out with a girl. She went out for a week. She then broke up with me for my friend.
Also this year I asked out one of the popular girls. She said no, yet she was thinking of going out with one of the jocks. Why? Is it because he's thin? Yup...... Hell, I even made her laugh more then anyone else....

Now here's a sad one......

Last week I went to study hall, had a copy of Followship Of the Rings to read since I had no work. All of a sudden a big 8th grader comes up to me. He says "Loretta wants to go out with you." Shortly afterwards, all of her friends go up to me saying "She want's to go out with you!" The older kid hands me a note from her. Saying will you go out with me. I say yes. That day during spanish class I write a letter for her. Between class time I have one of her friends hand over the letter to her. She asks, "Can I read it?". I say sure. On my way to english class, I turn around and see all of her friends looking at it.... In the letter I told her to call me at my house at five.
Five 'o clock..... No call.
Next day I get to reading class, the girl I handed the letter to makes a fake cough and says Lorretta as a little joke. She then says loud enough for the whole class to hear "Hey Peter! I forgot to give the letter to her!" Great.... Just great....... Now I'm on my way to science.... I walk past Lorretta's locker.... She says "Peter! I don't like you!" ................... My world has been blown to millions of pieces...... Shattered.... Now off to gym.... I go in the locker room to talk to the 8th grader, Dustin, who started this big mess. Here is what I said....
"Hey Dustin! Why the hell did you do that to me?" He asks "What" I say "Lorretta. Why did you do that to me? Do you think this is funny?!? You think you're funny don't you?!?!" He says that he was just joking....JOKING?!?!?! HOW CAN THAT BE A JOKE!?! I GOT MY HEART BROKEN!!!!!!!! that is REAL funny..... So funny I wanted to thank him for entertaining me by hitting his head on the concreat floor! But I did'nt do it.... Too bad. So far I'm alright but man, why would someone do a joke like that to me? Why?

Yes I've always heard the let's just be friends line.......

- Peter Melnick

Proud member of the Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club

[NewMaxFranklin]

:eek:
DAMN!!
That sucks hard! Geeze! Why? For the love of humanity, why?! I'm so sorry, man. That really sucks. People can be so thoughtless and insensitive. I hate people who manipulate others for entertainment. Usually I just feel sorry for jerks, but this is very uncool.

When I was a Sophmore in highschool I was talking with a bunch of my friends about girls and we got to mentioning who we had crushes on. I knew one of my friends had a big mouth, but we'd been friends for a long time and I assumed he knew this was personal information. Apparently, he and another of my "friends" didn't know.

It wasn't long before most everone knew who I liked. I'd liked this girl for four years by that time. Now everybody knew and was hinting to me that they knew. It sucked. I was always sort of an elusive figure in school. Buff, but not a jock. Nerdy, but not a good student, etc. The fact that I existed seemed to upset some in the "popular crowd." So, I have no doubt that news of my feelings reached my "ideal girl," with whom I was acquanted, but kept at a distance.

The next year the girl-I-liked approched me, out of the blue, letting me know she was interested. I retreated. The whole, awkward, incident would probably never have taken place if my friend hadn't opend his big mouth and let her find out that I liked her.

(In case you're curious, I didn't want to date because I was planning to move away after school (which I did) and didn't want any attachments.)

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Man, I know how you feel, GotLucky - I actually had a similar experience in the sixth grade!

Some friends of this popular guy came up to me one day after school and told me he wanted to ask me out, that he wanted to give me a hug sometime after school, all sorts of bull hockey like that... 'course back then, I didn't know how to distinguish bull hockey from truth. So I fell for it hook, line, sinker. Turns out he was just messing with me. I was really shy back then too, so it hit really hard. (sarcastic) Glad I could provide him and his little buddies with a good laugh. That's probably why to this day, I can't stand all the sappy little romance movies all the other gals flock to, and tend to look at my own love life with very hesitant optimism.

Er...what was my point again? Oh yeah, guys...if it's any consolation, girls can get their feelings crushed pretty badly too.

[langden alger]

i check out these boards alot...i respond to posts once in a long while, which is probably while you havent seen me around..anything involoving batman on the internet i'm pretty sure i've checked out at least twice lol... your right about the opening up thing. it's not healthy at all really...i justv have a bad habit of trying not to get too close with people...not that i have anything against people or anything..people have done some pretty cool things..like inventing that cool bubblewrap stuff..and trampolenes! how can you hate a race that invented a thing like that??:p lol...oh and yeah, i was kidding about that ideal women thing...i'd really probably go with jessica beil over jessica alba:D lol...thanks again for listening.

btw-thanx for the welcome klye. cool meeting you.

[NewMaxFranklin]

My brother is an Eighth Grader now. And I feel very protective of him. That's a rough time in life. One I remember with little fondness. He's a sensitive little guy. Very smart, but still so innocent. I don't want his innocence to be crused.:( ~sigh~ I hope he'll come away stronger and wiser for it. Actually, I'm sure he will.:) It's just uncomfortable for me to think about him in a trial by fire, without me there.

I'm not as concerned about my sister, because she's pretty much royalty at her private school. I was worried about her getting to wrapped up in her popular group mentality and becomming a conformist, but, I've talked with her a lot over the phone and she's rather unimpressed by all the posturing BS that goes on. She's got a good head on her shoulders.:cool:

Big brother stress! Not only do I have to worry about my poor little heart but those of my precious siblings as well. Thank goodness my dog's fixed and lives in the house.:p

[langden alger]

sorry-it's kyle i meant to say-cool meeting you kyle. not klye. damn, we're off to a great start lol..:D

[Batgirl_2005]

Originally posted by NMaxFranklin
My brother is an Eighth Grader now. And I feel very protective of him. That's a rough time in life. One I remember with little fondness. He's a sensitive little guy. Very smart, but still so innocent. I don't want his innocence to be crused.:( ~sigh~ I hope he'll come away stronger and wiser for it. Actually, I'm sure he will.:) It's just uncomfortable for me to think about him in a trial by fire, without me there.

I'm not as concerned about my sister, because she's pretty much royalty at her private school. I was worried about her getting to wrapped up in her popular group mentality and becomming a conformist, but, I've talked with her a lot over the phone and she's rather unimpressed by all the posturing BS that goes on. She's got a good head on her shoulders.:cool:

Big brother stress! Not only do I have to worry about my poor little heart but those of my precious siblings as well. Thank goodness my dog's fixed and lives in the house.:p

jeez! your siblings are luck to have as a brother... my older brother is an evil, evil person who doesn't seem to care what happens to me...

is this, like, a thread about love lives then?

[Nightflower]

Like, yes it is.

Cheer up GotLucky. You've got the rest of adolescence, and heck, the rest of your life to find out what love- or a relationship- is. Despite what you hear, most "relationships" at... I'm guessing Gr 6...aren't really biggies. But I have to admit- Gr 6-8 were the hardest times in my life (Sorry!)

Still going out with my boyfriend. We might break up soon though. I think his decision to drop out of high school and always wanting to have sex might have something to do with it.

[Failure]

Hey GotLucky, I'm sorry all that shnackers happened to you. Personally, I'm a big prankster, but I think it's just flat out wrong to get people's emotions involved in a joke. That's not a joke, that's a level of attack, which is wrong unless you're looking for trouble. You're in 6th grade though right? Don't worry dude, I guarantee the future will get better for you. Just the fact that you have enough courage to ask 9 girls out shows your mettle. Eventually it'll pay off, and you'll be able to look back and laugh at the jerks. Life's tough, but don't let people get you down. Like I always say, keep your chin up. Dont let the creeps alter who you are.

Hmm... I better not be sounding like an after school special. ;)

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Originally posted by Failure
Hmm... I better not be sounding like an after school special. ;)

Sounded like excellent advice to me...not at all cheesy :D

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat
Man, I know how you feel, GotLucky - I actually had a similar experience in the sixth grade!

Some friends of this popular guy came up to me one day after school and told me he wanted to ask me out, that he wanted to give me a hug sometime after school, all sorts of bull hockey like that... 'course back then, I didn't know how to distinguish bull hockey from truth. So I fell for it hook, line, sinker. Turns out he was just messing with me. I was really shy back then too, so it hit really hard. (sarcastic) Glad I could provide him and his little buddies with a good laugh. That's probably why to this day, I can't stand all the sappy little romance movies all the other gals flock to, and tend to look at my own love life with very hesitant optimism.

Someone once said that men are like parking spaces - the good ones are already taken. No offense to y'all, but that's increasingly becoming my attitude toward a love life, and I'll probably look foward to the day when I become the little old lady at the end of the street with no husband, no kids, and 16 gazillion cats. You should be a bit more optimistic. Just be yourself and hope fate is on your side. I have and while yes I have had women walk out of a realtion with me but hey at least I had fun along the way. But I do admit I am still abit jealous of this this guy I knew that was able to have serious relationships with 6 girlfreinds at the same time, hell I have to focus my attention to around one at a time but he could do half a dozen without getting an ounce of stress and that is only the ones I knew about for all I know he could have had another 6 I didn't know about.

[Kylewayne]

Originally posted by langden alger

sorry-it's kyle i meant to say-cool meeting you kyle. not klye. damn, we're off to a great start lol..

Nice meeting you too :)
If you ever wan't to chat just aim me or e-mail me...I'm all ears :D


Originally posted by Gotlucky64

Last week I went to study hall, had a copy of Followship Of the Rings to read since I had no work. All of a sudden a big 8th grader comes up to me. He says "Loretta wants to go out with you." Shortly afterwards, all of her friends go up to me saying "She want's to go out with you!" The older kid hands me a note from her. Saying will you go out with me. I say yes. That day during spanish class I write a letter for her. Between class time I have one of her friends hand over the letter to her. She asks, "Can I read it?". I say sure. On my way to english class, I turn around and see all of her friends looking at it.... In the letter I told her to call me at my house at five.

That is BRUTAL !!! It's mean when a person plays around with your feelings just for the sheer fun. of it. I think it has happened to most of us on these boards (including me). Now that I think of it highschool was brutal for me :(

[Failure]

Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat


Sounded like excellent advice to me...not at all cheesy :D

Thank you. :cool:

All this talk about high school being brutal is starting to make me think that I missed out on something. My hs was rather small, class of about 100 in each grade. There were plenty of jerks I didnt like, but everyone knew each other because 99% of the high schoolers were from the middle school. I could get along with everyone pretty much ok. I guess my experience was pretty bland. Maybe I just lucked out?

[Failure]

Originally posted by Nightflower
Still going out with my boyfriend. We might break up soon though. I think his decision to drop out of high school and always wanting to have sex might have something to do with it.

Dropped out of high school? Yikes, that must be a sticky situation. Good luck working things out.

[The Mad Hatter]

Ouch, I'm sorry to hear that. I imagine it must be truly frustrating to watch someone you care about make a huge mistake, yet not be able to really do anything about it.

Well, as long as we're all commiserating, remember the really special gal I mentioned earlier? The first person in years to really get my heart going? She dumped me when an old flame came calling. As Kurt Vonnegut would say, hey-ho.

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
... Well, as long as we're all commiserating, remember the really special gal I mentioned earlier? The first person in years to really get my heart going? She dumped me when an old flame came calling. As Kurt Vonnegut would say, hey-ho.

Oh no.... :( :( that's gotta sting worse than anything in the world...

[Frozen]

Yep, it sure does - been there, done that. The worst thing is the damage it does to your self-esteem. When it happened to me, I was like "Well, why am I inferior to him..?"

Not a nice feeling.

[optimal321]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Ouch, I'm sorry to hear that. I imagine it must be truly frustrating to watch someone you care about make a huge mistake, yet not be able to really do anything about it.

Well, as long as we're all commiserating, remember the really special gal I mentioned earlier? The first person in years to really get my heart going? She dumped me when an old flame came calling. As Kurt Vonnegut would say, hey-ho.

Hey, my love life sucks now especially too. But who knows, maybe next time you'll be the old flame she wants to go back to. Yeah, that's my lame attempt at trying to be optimistic. *Sigh* At least the only way from here is up...

[The Mad Hatter]

Well, with the way she broke up with me (a three-sentence instant message, followed by her logging off) doesn't make me want to go back anytime soon. It's common courtesy to at least do it face to face, you know?

[Calhoun07]

I think the Internet is the lazy way out to deal with not wanting to end a relationship. And I don't think a relationship is truly ended with a three word IM or an email. There is no real face to face closure.

[Joe Tully]

I know 2 guys who dumped their girlfriends through e-mail, one about 1 year after the other. Real class acts, those two. :rolleyes: Needless to say, none of their friends were too happy about them doing this, they all knew the girls that they were going out with and felt that they deserved more than an e-mail.