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NickM
08-13-2001, 01:52 AM
A 7-cartoon night, hurrah!
And decent ones too!

"Betty Boop's Crazy Inventions" (Fleischer- Betty Boop- Released 1/27/33)
"The Queen was in the Parlor" (WB- Released 7/9/32)
"Stealin' Ain't Honest" (Fleischer- Popeye- Released 3/22/40- with AAP opening/closing)
"Porky's Tire Trouble" (WB- Released 2/18/39)
"Beware of Barnacle Bill" (Fleischer- Popeye- Released 1/25/35)
"It's an Ill Wind" (WB- Released 1/28/39)
"Mutiny Ain't Nice" (Fleischer- Popeye- Released 9/23/38)

Hmm, odd, two sequential LT's (in reverse order).

I like that voice in "Ill Wind"...
"No! There ain't no b-b-b-buddy here!"

Also, am I correct in assuming that Dizzy Duck in "Ill Wind" is a takeoff on Gabby Goat?

Just curious...
NickM

P.S. Still no Bosko or Buddy.... like we really expected them to show up

J Lee
08-13-2001, 03:59 AM
Also, am I correct in assuming that Dizzy Duck in "Ill Wind" is a takeoff on Gabby Goat?

Actually, he was a takeoff on the duck Avery used in "I Wanna Be A Sailor" ("Ain't I the talkingest little guy?").

Just about every Warners director took a shot with a fast-talking high-pitched (and sometimes annoying) little character in the late 30s and early 40s. Clampett used pretty much the same character in "Porky's Hotel," Freleng had his two "Little Blabbermouse" cartoons and then Jones tried the same thing with a cuter voice, first in "The Brave Little Bat" and then with Sniffles in his final three cartoons.

Matthew Hunter
08-13-2001, 02:52 PM
I'd never seen "Ill Wind" in Black and White before, and never thought it was very good...until I saw it in black and white. It actually looks cool that way.....the way they did the scene where Porky is using a candle is a particularly good lighting effect, lost in the color version.
-Matthew

Sveven Dvorking
08-13-2001, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by NickM
Dizzy Duck in "Ill Wind"

I thought it was Gabby Goose.:confused:

Bobby B
08-14-2001, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by J Lee
Just about every Warners director took a shot with a fast-talking high-pitched (and sometimes annoying) little character in the late 30s and early 40s. Clampett used pretty much the same character in "Porky's Hotel," Freleng had his two "Little Blabbermouse" cartoons and then Jones tried the same thing with a cuter voice, first in "The Brave Little Bat" and then with Sniffles in his final three cartoons.



Also, slightly later, McKimson with "Rabbits Kin".

Sveven Dvorking
08-14-2001, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by Bobby B
Also, slightly later, McKimson with "Rabbits Kin".

1952 is much later... I never understand a word that rabbit says.

Sogturtle
08-14-2001, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by NickM

Also, am I correct in assuming that Dizzy Duck in "Ill Wind" is a takeoff on Gabby Goat?


Annnnnd Dizzy Duck was a character who absolutely HAD to appear, sooner or later. Why??? Because baseball in that era had the famous Dean brothers, who due to their crazy behavior were known as... "Dizzy" Dean and "Daffy" Dean. Tex appropriated the name of Daffy Duck from "Daffy" Dean. Sooooo the more famous brother had to be similarly honored eventually by also having a water-fowl named after him.

J Lee
08-14-2001, 12:06 PM
...but not by Freleng, who apparently HATED the 1934-37 St. Louis Cardinals, jugding by two of Friz' three baseball cartoons ;)

Sveven Dvorking
08-14-2001, 02:12 PM
So "Daffy Duck" came from "Daffy Dean".
Bugs Bunny came from Ben Hardaway's nickname.

Does this mean Speedy Gonzales was named after someone with a last name of Gonzales?

:confused:

DR. BELCH
08-14-2001, 04:55 PM
....never knew Dizzy Dean had a brother. What was it they did that got them those zany nicknames, anyway? I imagine it was more than drinking and chasing dames....

"Foghorn Leghorn" is a corruption of a radio character called Senator Cleghorn, that I know...and I always figured Elmer's last name is short for "fuddy-duddy", a boring and stiff sort...but as for "Gonzales", it was probably just picked out of a phone book.

Joe Tully
08-14-2001, 05:21 PM
Gonzales is a fairly common Mexican name, so I think that was kind of natural. Rodriguez (as in Slowpoke) is also pretty common. They probably just figured they'd use well known Mexican names to make it obvious that they were supposed to be Mexican characters, just in case you couldn't figure out from the accents or (when it was later added to Speedy) sombreros.:)

Mibbitmaker
08-17-2001, 12:27 AM
Actually, the Mexican mouse was named after Speedy Alkaseltzer!


....well, not really :D ...........

Sveven Dvorking
08-17-2001, 07:08 AM
Who is Speedy Alkaseltzer?:confused:

Jon Cooke
08-17-2001, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Sveven Dvorking
Who is Speedy Alkaseltzer?:confused:

He used to be the animated advertising mascot for (what else) Alkaseltzer (http://www.alkaseltzer.com/) (there's a picture on the website). The voice of Speedy was provided by Dick Beals who also did the voice of Ralph Phillips.


-Jon

Argus Sventon
08-17-2001, 10:37 AM
Remember the jingle that Speedy would sing.


Alka Seltzer. Plop Plop, Fizz Fizz, oh what a relief it is. Plop Plop, Fizz Fizz, oh, what a relief it

Actually, I don't think Speedy Gonzales was named after the Alka Seltzer Speedy.

Jack
08-17-2001, 10:41 AM
Never knew Dick Beals was his voice, no wonder he sounded a little bit like Ralph singing...



Jack:D

Jon Cooke
08-17-2001, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Argus Sventon
Actually, I don't think Speedy Gonzales was named after the Alka Seltzer Speedy.


Mibbitmaker was just making a joke...

... I hope ;)

-Jon

lislebartman
08-17-2001, 10:59 AM
By the way, guys, the duck in "It's An Ill Wind" is named Dippy, not Dizzy as mentioned earlier in this thread. I just happened to watch my copy of LNB&W again last evening. Porky clearly calls him 'Dippy'.