The G8

[Psycho Fox]

I noticed the American media is not very intrested in this plus there is a tone that there is not really much protesting becouse of sep 11 and the protesters have back off where from the Canadain media there is a tone there is not much protesting becouse security is at war time levels. I'm thinking it is a bit of both but more towards the higher security. I also notice there has been some mention of G6B but not much.

[VashTheStampede]

Mainly because the G8 never really effects serious changes, and it is mainly just a show. I support the G8, but then again I support anything that gets protested like these global economic summits do. And the American media and the American people dont really care because economics is boring, we Americans need constant action. :D

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede
Mainly because the G8 never really effects serious changes, and it is mainly just a show. I support the G8, but then again I support anything that gets protested like these global economic summits do. And the American media and the American people dont really care because economics is boring, we Americans need constant action. :D Well the G8 is the worlds most powerful nations (minus China for obvious reason) where they come together for global economics. The protesters brought up the G6B plan to the G8 and want them to consider it. It has stuff like forgiving African debt, demilitrization, enviorment, local economies first and so on.

[VashTheStampede]

African debt, demilitrization, enviorment

They actually think just because we forgive debt it would make a difference. We never expect them to pay it back so we really dont assk. What does demilitirization have to do with economics, they just use the G8 to further their leftist views. And finally the environment, they all believe the US is the only reason for environmental problems, and dont get me started on "global Warming"

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede


They actually think just because we forgive debt it would make a difference. We never expect them to pay it back so we really dont assk.Well it is for the intrest payment see from their views the money should be free due to years of being colonies of Britain, France,ect
What does demilitirization have to do with economics, they just use the G8 to further their leftist views.Well arms is a bussniess and their point is they don't want it as one. It makes nation see military build up as a make work project since there is no limmitation from trade agrements on that industry unlike lumber,goods, ect
And finally the environment, they all believe the US is the only reason for environmental problems, and dont get me started on "global Warming" Well from their point they want to make it illegal from nations to sell waste, garbage,ect to poor nations that their have to deal with it internally.

[Psycho Fox]

Okay I went to Independent Media Center (http://www.indynews.org/) since US TV ignores the protesters and Canadain compacts what they are saying to sound bites and I am curious. You wanted to know why they are talking about eviorment
Greenpeace Canada, Calgary, 25 Jun 02
Greenpeace today called on the G8 leaders to heed South African President Thabo Mbeki’s call to keep the promises made at the 1992 Earth Summit. Mbeki, host of August’s Earth Summit, was in Calgary to urge the world’s richest nations to deliver concrete plans for environmental protection and poverty alleviation.

“The G8 should listen to Mbeki and recognize the undeniable link between the G8 and the Earth Summit,” said Greenpeace Canada campaigns director Jo Dufay. “The G8 must recognize that it can’t talk about sustainable development without talking about energy, and the world needs clean energy now.”

She said the G8 must implement its own task force report, blocked by the US and Canada before the 2001 Summit, that shows how a billion people without access to modern electricity can receive power through renewable sources.

“Wind and solar power are clean and they’re safe,” said Dufay. “The barriers to sustainable development are not technical – they’re political. If the world’s richest countries helped the world develop cleanly, we’ll fight poverty and climate change. Instead, they seem prepared to blow $20 billion on a dangerous nuclear plan.”

Dufay urged the G8 to reject US President Bush’s ‘ten plus ten over ten’ plan that shuttles plutonium across Russia on trains at a cost of $20 billion over ten years. “If Bush wants to fight terrorism, why does he want to ship parts to dirty and nuclear bombs around?” asked Dufay, on the day the International Atomic Energy Association sounded the alarm on the number of countries that can’t account for their nuclear material.

Greenpeace climate change campaigner Steven Guilbeault said the money would be better spent funding a global uptake of clean energy.

“Renewable energy isn’t just safe, it’s produced locally,” said Guilbeault. “It is integral to energy self-sufficiency and to fighting climate change. If the G8 leaders don’t commit to using clean energy, they can’t show up at the Earth Summit in August and talk about sustainable development with any credibility.”

He noted Canada, which had said it could ratify Kyoto – which began at the 1992 Earth Summit – by the G8. Instead, Canada has watched the four European members of the G8 and Japan ratify Kyoto and Russia announce ratification plans. For more on the G8, visit http://www.greenpeace.ca/g8 Their general view of G8
As the leaders of the G8 countries meet in the secluded mountain setting of Kananaskis, Alberta activists around the world will be in streets actively opposing the destructive agenda perpetuated by the G8.

While representing a small proportion of the world's population the leaders of the G8 nations control the majority of the world's economic resources and impose a neo-liberal form of development on the rest of the world. Through support for FTAA, IMF / World Bank, and the WTO, and increased privatization and corportatization of Africa through NEPAD, the G8 countries are promoting a world model that benefits the rich and leaves the rest behind.