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Webryder
06-25-2002, 07:31 PM
I'm bettin this being an almost sure thing. The subtle clues and hints are all over the net.

Wth the inclusion of a Batman series "Birds of Prey" to the WB lineup, Al Gough in interviews (conducted in Superman hompage, Television Without Pity websites) saying numerous times that he himself is lobbying for a chance to tell the "Bruce Wayne visits Smallville" story and with the latest, most encouraging news so far, Jeph Loeb-movie screenwriter, co-creator of two of arguably the best stories focusing on the Dark Knight and the Man of Steel respectively (The Long Halloween/For All Seasons) has been hired as a consulting writer on Smallville can it be more obvious where this is all leading?!?! :D :D

It seems that what has been holding this highly anticipated story back is the legalities of it in that Batman is owned by a different entity then Superman even tho they all fall under the juridication of DC and the reason they've been so hasitant in letting Gough and Millar run with it is because DC, i guess, wants to be FULLY convinced, as do we, that the Batman mythos will be handled with the seriousness and justice to the source material it deserves.

But the good news is now that Loeb is on the job, his "script-ment" of that character might swing the vote to making this a reality and all signs point to a story being developed sooner than we all thought-Season 2.

From what I can piece together off the top of my head from interviews, rumors and such I read in Cinescape, Kryptonsite and a few other places taken with aformentioned Al Gough and also producers Mike Tollin and Brian Robbins the "Bruce Wayne" eps could take place the up coming season and be a 3 ep story arc which I find really exciting if it happens cuz I thought it'd take alot longer, more like season 3 at the earliest.

So assuming this is true I've brainstormed up some ideas and what I think those eps should be like with characters and situations.....

They have to find a REALLY good character actor type that's both charming and is at least as attractive as the actors that play Clark and Lex.

He should be about Lex's age-21 I think

You know from Batman's history after his parents died they leave him EVERYTHING, so this kid's basically rolling in cash, waaay more than Lex is, I'm talkin Bill Gates type money!!

He won't be a "Richy Rich" type trying to run the whole company just yet because he's trying to find his way and what he can do he doesn't want his father's company run into the ground so he oversees it, sort of keeping an eye on everything, like a silent partner who technically has control if he wants it but is not ready

Also this brings up a good point that most people have been overlooking, if Bruce is to show make a big trip out of town to Smallville he never goes anywhere without his legal guadian/best friend/only family.......you guessed it ALFRED :)

Alfred will have to be noticably younger than the actor portraying him on BoP, but still have that same prescence in Bruce's life, a friend and confidant, subtly guiding him to adulthood, while keeping him out of trouble and keeping him safe

Bruce's relationship to Luthor Sr. (I think he'll survive season 1) will be that Luthor is trying to by his company out and get rid of his compition and when he sees it's basically owned by a boy young enuff to be HIS son he tries to bully him the same way but young Bruce wont have it- in a subtle and charming business-like way he'll shrug off Papa Luthor when he tries to buy him out, and when that doesn't work and Luthor finds he's unable to manipulate Wayne because he thinks to steps ahead to stay on top of any situation it'll frustrate Luthor because he won't know how to handle him.

Bruce's relationship with Clark and his family could be in his alterior motive to buy out the Kent farm and develop it into a business and a side effect would be offsetting the jobloss resulting from Papa Luthor closing the Luthorcorp plant in Season 1 so the town thinks he's a hero but Jonathon will think he's just like Luthor and the other business people who've tried to buy come in and take his land over the years which will give Clark a chance to meet him and see what his plans are for his parents land.

And that will make Clark predetermined to be at least cautious around him. Clark won't like him either at first because he sees he what everyone else sees him as- a rich, spoiled, playboy type whose used to getting everything he wants in life, which would be true execpt that's just his public face and when we see him alone with Alfred the audience should see him as really vulnerable and very brooding because he's had this horrible tragedy in his life that he hides from eveyone and alone with Alfred we see his duality in a sort of a romantically, tradegic way and we, despite what he shows of himself around other people, and all his money and clout that he's really alone and we can't help but feel sorry for him

His meeting with Lex will have to be connectic, like his meeting with Clark but in a completely different way. These two are shown to have so much in common, the wealth, the playboy lifestyle, the charm-which should be evident in every word they day to each other, but behind closed doors their lifes are tragic with Lex and his father's almost hatred for each other and Bruce wishing he still HAD a parental figure in his life more than anything

They won't know all THAT about each other just yet but the audience will so it'll be cool if the writers play it that way. Bruce could be witnessed to a tense moment between Lex and his father steming from the events of the Tempest ep in Season 1 and and the burgeoning dispising hatred Lex has for his father event tho he saved him and he makes a comment to Bruce after his father leaves, soemthing like......

"As you can see, me and my dad don't get along, but I bet it's the same with every guy like us who have our father's as bosses"

and Bruce says....."Wouldn't know Lex, my father's dead, so I guess there is one thing you have that I don't, consider yourself lucky"

Well those are my ideas for a Bruce visits Smallville ep so far......feel free to use this thread to add to the list with some of your own

Comments??

JusticeLeagueLegion
06-26-2002, 04:25 PM
Dude, you freaked me out, I thought you had confirmed this.

Harvey Dent
06-26-2002, 06:19 PM
I'm on the fence about this.

On one hand, it could turn out to be a good story, and the interactions between Bruce and Lex, Bruce and Clark, Bruce and the Kents, and Bruce and the town could be very interesting.

On the other hand, there's a part of me that's concerned about how Bruce will be handled. I already don't like the way the writers constantly bombard us with "Superman" references ("As long as it's not a job that involves putting on a suit and flying", Clark's campaign poster with the proposed "Truth, Justice" thing, etc.). I swear, if Bruce shows up and someone makes a comment about him being like a bat, I will take a bat to my TV set.

JusticeLeagueLegion
06-26-2002, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by Harvey Dent
...I will take a bat to my TV set.

You mean a Baseball bat right? Not an animal? :p

HoloRimmer
06-26-2002, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by JusticeLeagueLegion


You mean a Baseball bat right? Not an animal? :p

I would hope so. I don't see how an actual bat will damage the TV. :)

JusticeLeagueLegion
06-26-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by HoloRimmer


I would hope so. I don't see how an actual bat will damage the TV. :)

That "bat" remark I made was just supposed to be a pun since he was saying he didn't want anyone to make any references to Bruce Wayne being like a "bat." Okay...it wasn't that funny, but I try.

Webryder
06-27-2002, 03:36 AM
Don't get me wrong, this stuff is in NO WAY confirmed, it's just if you read the interviews on the net with everyone from Al Gough to Tollin & Co.-the exec producers of Smallville, and put 2 and 2 together it leans toward this thing being a definite possiblity and if you need more proof read for yourself and see if you're not a believer.

Al Gough Interview (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/interviews/al-gough.html)

Mike Tollin Interview (http://www.cinescape.com/0/Editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&obj_id=32300)

A.G. Interview 2 (http://www.cinescape.com/0/Editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&obj_id=32610)

Webryder
06-27-2002, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by Harvey Dent
On the other hand, there's a part of me that's concerned about how Bruce will be handled. I already don't like the way the writers constantly bombard us with "Superman" references ("As long as it's not a job that involves putting on a suit and flying", Clark's campaign poster with the proposed "Truth, Justice" thing, etc.). I swear, if Bruce shows up and someone makes a comment about him being like a bat, I will take a bat to my TV set.

That's just because it was the first season you know, the characters were being introduced to the albeit 12 people in the world that might not know Clark Kent will eventually grow up to become "you-know-who" and thw writers were trying different things out, seeing what worked and what didn't and all around trying to figure out what the tone of the show was gonna be. Next season I'm sure they'll have applied alot of that to the show and you'll see an improvment in the writing overall (lowing the amount of freak of the week arcs, little to no foreshadowing in eps., and focusing more on Clark's heritage so this show won't dengrate to being "Krypton Kreek every week)

The writers probably thought the audience would get a kick out of the Superman refs each ep. and just kinda went overboard. I'm not saying their a bad thing neccessarily but to be effective they do have to space them out and write them in so they won't sound so cheesy. The actors are gonna have to help out a bit in their delivery too, so I don't see it being that big a problem yet.

The MAIN thing we should all be worried about if this ends up happening is their choice in who gets to play Bruce himself......that's my big concern :confused:

Justice League 2000
06-27-2002, 12:37 PM
are you sure bruce wayne will show up on smallville?

Webryder
06-27-2002, 01:04 PM
no I'm not 100% positive, but I wouldn't bet against it.

Besides you know WB, if the shows producers can guarantee the story will be good and ratings HUGE they'll make it happen

Barb Gordon
06-27-2002, 01:56 PM
Of course when Smallville came out, people couldn't help but wonder if Bruce Wayne would make an appearance. Although I'm undecided about this, it could be pretty dang cool. And if or when he does show up, it wouldn't be till around a third season because they need the first two to really establish the main characters. They've succeeded in that, so now maybe it's time for fun. If the BW story idea is confirmed, I'll be excited, mostly to see just what would happen in the episode, if it would totally suck or rock, and most importantly, whether the actor they chose was a good one for the role.

~Barb

JusticeLeagueLegion
06-27-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Webryder
Don't get me wrong, this stuff is in NO WAY confirmed, it's just if you read the interviews on the net with everyone from Al Gough to Tollin & Co.-the exec producers of Smallville, and put 2 and 2 together it leans toward this thing being a definite possiblity and if you need more proof read for yourself and see if you're not a believer.

Al Gough Interview (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/interviews/al-gough.html)

Mike Tollin Interview (http://www.cinescape.com/0/Editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&obj_id=32300)

A.G. Interview 2 (http://www.cinescape.com/0/Editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Television&action=page&obj_id=32610)

I've already read that and I'm sure that almost everyone else has as well, that's not something that hasn't been speculated before...I myself have thought about it on many ocasions.

Webryder
06-27-2002, 03:53 PM
For the sake of argument, lets say it is true and they do have a story planned.....what would the people here like to see happen in that arc?

Bruce's personality?

His relationship to the main characters on the show?

Any new questions about his young adult life you want to see touched on?

JusticeLeagueLegion
06-27-2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Webryder
For the sake of argument, lets say it is true and they do have a story planned.....what would the people here like to see happen in that arc?

Bruce's personality?

His relationship to the main characters on the show?

Any new questions about his young adult life you want to see touched on?

Definitly the murder of his parents in a flashback maybe...but I hope they don't make Gotham City in Kansas as well...Metropolis being in Kansas is bad enough...I'm not saying I don't like Kansas. I live in Kansas!! I was born and raised here and I probably will always be here, but I've been a fan of comic books for a long time now...and I always have pictured Metropolis and Gotham City on the east coast...Smallville is in Kansas...that's the way I like it. It's nice to see some cool things happening in my home state, but I was raised on Metropolis being on the east coast...end of story. They need to have a middle-aged Alfred on it...maybe he can get aquainted with the Kents.

langden alger
06-28-2002, 12:03 AM
at this point all i ask is that loeb prevents them from making bruce climb through clark's window to hang out and reflect at the end of each ep.

Webryder
06-28-2002, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by Barb Gordon
Of course when Smallville came out, people couldn't help but wonder if Bruce Wayne would make an appearance. Although I'm undecided about this, it could be pretty dang cool. And if or when he does show up, it wouldn't be till around a third season because they need the first two to really establish the main characters.

~Barb

I'm guessing they'll do it the exact same season they get the go ahead from DC if they can because it sounds like to me, which is a good thing, that the producers are even MORE anxious to write these eps then we are to see em and that's saying alot :rolleyes: :D

Webryder
07-07-2002, 08:52 AM
Has anyone seen that Mandy Moore flick (I forget what it's called) or caught the comercials for the home video on tv lately?

I think the actor that plays her love interest in the film (his name escapes me too) would be a great candidate to play a young Bruce Wayne if he ever comes to Smallville. I remember seeing him in a few other movies and he has the prescence, the intense look and edgyness to pull off a role like that. Watch the ad if you can and see for yourself.

Well.....what about it? :cool:


What would also be just as great is if the Bruce Wayne/Smallville story didn't happen, he could be a excellent choice to play none other than Nightwing on an upcoming Birds of Prey ep..... complete without mullet!! :D

Icing on the cake :p