Calhoun07
08-04-2001, 05:56 PM
Ohhhh, that takes us way back, doesn't it? That soon became DG's signature post on the old boards to let us know to knock off posting so dang much on the boards, he was archiving them. In honor of my 2000th post, and in honor of the old boards, I just had to name my 2000th post something easilly familar from the old boards.
I tracked down my first post, too. It was in reply to a thread about prime time cartoons, and for historic sakes, here's the first post I could find from me on the old boards....
Subject: Re: Prime-Time Cartoons
Posted by: calhoun07
Posted on: Thu Aug 10 20:40:56 2000
In Reply to: Prime-Time Cartoons
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I think that prime time cartoons DO have a chance of finding a solid audience but the majority of them are considered DOA by the networks before they even get a chance.
In a recent article that reported ratings for the cable networks, Cartoon Network was the NUMBER TWO rated cable network out of all of them with a 2.0 rating. ABC killed Clerks with a higher rating than that. Not that Clerks was my favorite prime time animated show, but the example is worth pointing out.
Mission Hill was a show I loved and looked forward to watching (and, thankfully, taping every week) but WB cancelled the show after airing part one of a two part episode. I don't know how Mission Hill fared in the ratings but I think it is safe to say that it either had it's audience or would have found a more solid audience had WB promoted it as much as they promote some of their other programming.
I think prime time animation has a chance of surviving, but not on the big networks. On the big networks, anything outside of the Sunday night Simpsons centered animation block on FOX has a hard time climbing to reach the required ratings that the networks want to see to keep the show on. However, if these same shows such as Clerks and Mission Hill and many others generated the same ratings (or even less!) on Cartoon Network, the shows would be considered hits.
I love prime time animation. As much as I love Simpsons, I also love seeing other styles and formats for animated programming on TV. I think Family Guy is a brilliant show that gets the shaft way too many times by FOX. What I vote for is that Cartoon Network begins to carry the majority of these cartoons. I don't know when they would air them. Perhaps they should have considered using these types of shows for their new Boomerang network rather than relying on old Hanna Barbara material to fuel a new network when there was plenty of room for Hanna Barbara on Cartoon Network.
Ah, so many cartoons, so little air time. If some of these shows can't make it on TV, I hope that somebody has enough good sense to put them out on DVD. At least Clerks is coming to DVD. I would also buy Mission Hill and King of the Hill DVDs. Heck, I would buy just about any DVD of prime time animated programming!
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Of course, I didn't become a frequent poster over night, and it was a little while before I actually came up with an idea for my first thread....to which nobody replied.
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Subject: What animation really surprised you?
Posted by: calhoun07
Posted on: Sun Aug 20 04:38:36 2000
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I was wondering if anybody had a favorite DVD or movie or TV show that really took them by surprise, not only in the animation department but in the overall quality of the story telling and plot and everything.
For me, I took a chance and ordered the anime movie DOG OF FLANDERS. I had no desire to see the live action movie, but heard a few good things about the animated version so I figured I would check it out. Damn fine movie. I had apprehensions when I got it from DVDExpress.com and the sticker on the box said for ages 3andUp. I usually go for more mature animation. I will agree with most people who have said that this movie is more for a more mature audience than the studio marketed it for. I guess because it is animation with a dog that makes it immediately for little kids. But I won't ramble on about how animation is sterotyped in America.
DOG OF FLANDERS really took me by surprise on every level. It was an engaging story, excellent animation, and I would have to say it is my favorite anime movie since GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES. In fact, I would recommend it to anybody looking for something different in anime from the sci-fi/giant robot motiffs that perpetuate in alot of other anime.
So does anybody else have something in their collection that they were unsure about but were taken by total surprise and the movie wound up on your favorites list?
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And it was still a while before I really started posting reguarlly, I just kinda looked in on the boards every now and then, but now I am a veteran World's Finest trooper, ready for my next 2000 posts!
I tracked down my first post, too. It was in reply to a thread about prime time cartoons, and for historic sakes, here's the first post I could find from me on the old boards....
Subject: Re: Prime-Time Cartoons
Posted by: calhoun07
Posted on: Thu Aug 10 20:40:56 2000
In Reply to: Prime-Time Cartoons
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I think that prime time cartoons DO have a chance of finding a solid audience but the majority of them are considered DOA by the networks before they even get a chance.
In a recent article that reported ratings for the cable networks, Cartoon Network was the NUMBER TWO rated cable network out of all of them with a 2.0 rating. ABC killed Clerks with a higher rating than that. Not that Clerks was my favorite prime time animated show, but the example is worth pointing out.
Mission Hill was a show I loved and looked forward to watching (and, thankfully, taping every week) but WB cancelled the show after airing part one of a two part episode. I don't know how Mission Hill fared in the ratings but I think it is safe to say that it either had it's audience or would have found a more solid audience had WB promoted it as much as they promote some of their other programming.
I think prime time animation has a chance of surviving, but not on the big networks. On the big networks, anything outside of the Sunday night Simpsons centered animation block on FOX has a hard time climbing to reach the required ratings that the networks want to see to keep the show on. However, if these same shows such as Clerks and Mission Hill and many others generated the same ratings (or even less!) on Cartoon Network, the shows would be considered hits.
I love prime time animation. As much as I love Simpsons, I also love seeing other styles and formats for animated programming on TV. I think Family Guy is a brilliant show that gets the shaft way too many times by FOX. What I vote for is that Cartoon Network begins to carry the majority of these cartoons. I don't know when they would air them. Perhaps they should have considered using these types of shows for their new Boomerang network rather than relying on old Hanna Barbara material to fuel a new network when there was plenty of room for Hanna Barbara on Cartoon Network.
Ah, so many cartoons, so little air time. If some of these shows can't make it on TV, I hope that somebody has enough good sense to put them out on DVD. At least Clerks is coming to DVD. I would also buy Mission Hill and King of the Hill DVDs. Heck, I would buy just about any DVD of prime time animated programming!
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Of course, I didn't become a frequent poster over night, and it was a little while before I actually came up with an idea for my first thread....to which nobody replied.
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Subject: What animation really surprised you?
Posted by: calhoun07
Posted on: Sun Aug 20 04:38:36 2000
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I was wondering if anybody had a favorite DVD or movie or TV show that really took them by surprise, not only in the animation department but in the overall quality of the story telling and plot and everything.
For me, I took a chance and ordered the anime movie DOG OF FLANDERS. I had no desire to see the live action movie, but heard a few good things about the animated version so I figured I would check it out. Damn fine movie. I had apprehensions when I got it from DVDExpress.com and the sticker on the box said for ages 3andUp. I usually go for more mature animation. I will agree with most people who have said that this movie is more for a more mature audience than the studio marketed it for. I guess because it is animation with a dog that makes it immediately for little kids. But I won't ramble on about how animation is sterotyped in America.
DOG OF FLANDERS really took me by surprise on every level. It was an engaging story, excellent animation, and I would have to say it is my favorite anime movie since GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES. In fact, I would recommend it to anybody looking for something different in anime from the sci-fi/giant robot motiffs that perpetuate in alot of other anime.
So does anybody else have something in their collection that they were unsure about but were taken by total surprise and the movie wound up on your favorites list?
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And it was still a while before I really started posting reguarlly, I just kinda looked in on the boards every now and then, but now I am a veteran World's Finest trooper, ready for my next 2000 posts!