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EinBebop
06-18-2002, 02:55 PM
With rumours that he was supposed to go over Austin, and his apparent momentum going into King of the Ring, it looks like he's going to be the winner of this year's tournament. But are they handling his push right?

It seems to me that while he has potential to be a "monster", WWE can't exactly build him up as a monster, because that's not the way the business works. I've thought of a few ways around this...

The Sacrificial Lamb
For a few weeks after Brock's debut, he would come out and kill wrestlers. At least they looked that way after his attack. About once a month, they send Brock a lamb to be slaughtered. Vince will send his Funakis and Mavens to him when they've irritated him. But since they can't all be lambs...

The Stretcher
There used to be a wrestler in the eighties who used this as his gimmick; I wish I could remember who it was. But the jist is... (and picture Heyman saying this) "Brock's not such a bad guy. He knows that you're body will be so broken after the match that you'd never make it back on your own, so he's brought you this shiny stretcher!". Which he drags down to the ring during ever match. Make the message stick: You may get in some decent offense, but nobody walks out of a match with Lesnar. Those sacrificial lamb matches I mentioned above could become stretcher matches. Haven't seen those in a few years, so it would be relatively fresh.

A Killer Move
The TKO ain't gonna cut it.... what happened to that spinning power bomb he did his first few times out? If not that, Brock needs some kind of move that we can believe to be career ending.

VashTheStampede
06-18-2002, 05:47 PM
They are not gonna give him a title shot his first few months in the WWE. Either Jericho, or RVD will win.

EinBebop
06-18-2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by VashTheStampede
They are not gonna give him a title shot his first few months in the WWE. Either Jericho, or RVD will win.

Here's my King of the Ring take...

I think Booker's a proven main-event guy and now would have been a perfect time for a Booker T push to main event Summerslam against the Undertaker... but they have already given RVD/Undertaker a bit of a backstory.... so RVD would be my *sensible* pick...

But I'm just afraid they're going to put the title on HHH, and set him up against Lesnar. While RVD is the *sensible* choice, if I had to put money on it, I'd pick Lesnar for the winner.

Even worse would be Jericho winning for a shot against HHH. HHH ruined his comeback by making his opponent look bad. As Dynamite Kid said in his book... "When you make your opponent look like ****, all you've beaten is a piece of ****." I'm tired of Jericho vs HHH.

My ideal situation
Brock in the finals is a gimme. It doesn't matter whether Test or Holly wins their quarter-final match, because neither one has a chance against the Brock Juggernaut. Who faces him?

Jericho vs Valbowski: advancing to the semi-finals is a losing proposition for Jericho. He either loses to RVD (most likely), loses to Lesnar, or wins the tournament, which is the worst case scenario for him because then he's up against HHH again.

I'd like to see Valbowski get the win over Jericho. A setback for Jericho, but then he can do something more interesting on the PPV. The win over Jericho and a good match against RVD (even though he'll lose) would be great for Valbowski, who I think has what it takes to try to position him to be a main-eventer in a year or too. If he'd just lose "Valbowski" and call himself Sean Morley.

Your finals match is RVD vs Lesnar. I think that common sense would be RVD, but with a Summerslam title shot on the line, I think common sense would have been the proven main-eventer, Booker T. I've already said who my money's on.

The Game
06-18-2002, 10:25 PM
EinBebop, I think you are right- there are two scenarios that could happen- 1. Lessnar wins and faces HHH at SummerSlam or 2. RVD wins and faces Undertaker at SummerSlam.

I prefer number 2 myself- I think RVD is much more entertaining in the ring than Lessnar, and has certainly proved himself more. I agree with everyone else though, Booker would have been the PERFECT candidate to win, although I look for him to have an interesting feud with the nWo at this point.

Lessnar is okay in the ring, but all we've seen from are squashes and a mega push- is he main event material? MAYBE. But the fact of the matter is that we don't know because he's only been in the fed for a few months, which is why he won't win- and was part of the reason why we all knew Rhyno woulnd't win last year.

After two month-long title reigns, I expect Taker to hold the title until SummerSlam when he drops it to RVD, the KOTR champ. Or is that just wishful thinking?

-The Game

Leaping Larry Jojo
06-19-2002, 01:16 AM
Lesnar has all the charisma of a doorknob. I'm pretty sure he won't be main eventing anytime soon, so my money's on RVD.

BLACKHEART
06-19-2002, 01:42 AM
I say Brockberg will win King of the Ring. They are trying to build a new superstar and they have invested a lot of time and money into him.

Leaping Larry Jojo
06-19-2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
I say Brockberg will win King of the Ring. They are trying to build a new superstar and they have invested a lot of time and money into him.

Then they'd better call their bank for a loan in advance. They will need it.

langden alger
06-19-2002, 11:45 AM
brock over rvd in the finals. i promise you that.

Memphis Bleek
06-19-2002, 12:48 PM
RVD or Jericho will win KOR. If Jericho win KOR he will face HHH at SummerSlam and finally beat the game. If RVD win KOR he will face HHH and beat the game. RVD or Jericho will keep the undisputed title until Survivor Series. The undisputed champ after Survivor Series then will lose the strap at the Royal Rumble. The undisputed champ after the Royal Rumble then will lose the strap at Wrestlemania XIX. That just my theory.

Andy Mancini
06-19-2002, 02:55 PM
According to the Smackdown spoilers (I better put this in a spoiler box):

Jericho and Test win, so it's a given that a heel will be in the final for the Smackdown side. This leaves RVD as the sole face in the final four, and they need a face in the finals. To sum it up: I bet that rock loses due to interrfernce by the NWO.

EinBebop
06-19-2002, 03:21 PM
I wouldn't rule out Brock vs Jericho. It wouldn't be too out of character for either one of these to fight another heel. Heck... we've already got Brock vs Test happening on the card. Brock vs. Jericho is also the only realistic Raw vs Smackdown final, if they want to keep playing up that angle.

I'd still bet on RVD vs Brock in the finals, though. But then again, when something seems that obvious, we could be setting up for a swerve...

EinBebop
06-19-2002, 03:28 PM
I wouldn't rule out Jericho vs Brock in the finals. It wouldn't be completely out of character for either to fight another heel. Heck, we've already got Brock vs Test lined up. It's also the only conceivable way for a Raw vs Smackdown final, if they want to play that up.

The good money's still on RVD vs Brock, but when something seems that obvious, watch for a swerve.

VashTheStampede
06-19-2002, 03:30 PM
Wow I never would have thought to make a mirror image of a previos post. :confused:

Sheamon
06-19-2002, 05:27 PM
I can't see Brock winning it all after being in the WWE for such a little time. He'll make it to the finals cause I can't see anyone in their right mind wanting Test there, and then will get beaten by RVD. Not much of an RVD fan, but I'd much rather have him win it all than any of the other 3 that will be left for KOTR.

EinBebop
06-19-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by VashTheStampede
Wow I never would have thought to make a mirror image of a previos post. :confused:

Wanted to get my point across. :p

Actually, it didn't show up the first time.

The Game
06-19-2002, 10:40 PM
The Game Guaran-Damn-Tees it:

RVD over Lessnar in the finals.

-The Game