Is Nickelodeon CRAZY?!?

[Mad Scientist]

OMG! You're not gonna believe this piece of news I just picked up about Nickelodeon! Apparently, the network is planning to make a talk show that discusses -- get this -- HOMOSEXUALITY to children ages 8-13.

Now, I'm not implying that I'm against gays or anything, nor am I implying that I myself am a gay (I'm obviously not), but let's try to get the point across here:

Nickelodeon? Homosexuality? Children ages 8-13? Do you see a connection here?

[Andy Mancini]

Must you ask this question? It's kind of like asking "Is SpongeBob yellow" or "Is 'invader Zim' cancelled". Yes, they are, and there is no way I would let my kids (if I had any) watch a show like that.

[Majin_Megabyte]

Nick is getting sadder,and sadder each day when I here Nick is during something bad.

[GrayGhost]

I am straight, but don't have a problem with people who are gay. However, I wouldn't want my 8 year old kid (and I am sure even younger ones) watching that. The parents should explain this and other issues also to their children, not Nickelodeon.

[pzcman]

*sigh* i can picture it now. dance rainbows and condoms telling you how fun it is to be "butt buddies" so they won't let shows make fun of them, but it's aok to turn kids on to homosexuality???
not like i have anything against homosexuals, it's your life. love whatever you want. aslong as it's the legal age, and not an animal.

[DougGoneMAD]

If I ever saw the guy who came up with this idea, i would be like, "AY!! I'm gonna kick you in the NUTS!!!!"
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[Majin_Megabyte]

Originally posted by DougGoneMAD
If I ever saw the guy who came up with this idea, i would be like, "AY!! I'm gonna kick you in the NUTS!!!!"
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Hollywood-Theater/9304/cartman01.gif

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

[James Harvey]

I have no problems with this news. Homosexuality is a normal lifestyle for some families, and it makes sense to explain it. Believe it or not, some kids may wonder why some of their friends may have two dads or two mothers. There are alot of families with same sex parents, and if Nickelodeon wants to educate peole on this, then let them. Nicklodeon stated they are not encourgaing nor condemning this lifestyle just educating, which I have no problem with, something the parents of these typesof families should do as well. It's a valid and just topic. And I would let my kid watch it, if I had one (which I hope to, someday). As a straight person myself with a beautiful gal by my side, I have no problem with homosexuality. It's a lifestyle just like heterosexuality. They find attraction in the same sex. Big deal. I gotta give Nick props for having the guts to do something like this, a very controversial subject.

And please be very careful inthis thread. This is some controversial subject matter so becareful what you say and keep it PG. If not, posters will be warned and this thread may close. Just keep it civilized.

[DougGoneMAD]

If they did air it, it would probably would be less watched than "Nick News". And that show has what, 8 people watching it :p ?

[GrayGhost]

Originally posted by DougGoneMAD
If they did air it, it would probably would be less watched than "Nick News". And that show has what, 8 people watching it :p ?

That is still on? Last time I watched it was when it was still "Nick News W5"

[DougGoneMAD]

I see it on like once a year.

[Nightwing]

Just as a reminder of Jim's last post, please keep this topic civilized and without any kind of accusatory opinions. A very recent post had to be deleted for not following these rules. It is not a poster's job to bring hate to these boards. So if we could just keep things as calm, civilized and mentally stimulating as they usually are, we won't have to have any of that happen.

Now back on topic:


Originally posted by Jim Harvey
It's a valid and just topic. And I would let my kid watch it, if I had one (which I hope to, someday). As a straight person myself with a beautiful gal by my side, I have no problem with homosexuality.

I agree that the topic should be taught about homosexuality by their parents but what no one realizes is parents these days, (of the first year teens especially) AREN'T teaching their children ANYTHING about homosexuality. These are most often classified as the 'soccor moms,' you might say, who involuntarily make their kids think anything aside from how they live is disgusting and/or wrong. I think the show is a good idea.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

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im not going to get into a religion thing but you are sinning by hating and promoting hate.

[mbaker]

This is something that should be discussed at home. Having gay characters on A show is one thing, but preaching the lifestyle on A daily basis to kids is A little too far. Some people may take issue with it for good reasons.

[Majin_Megabyte]

Originally posted by Defiant1DS9
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Um you can get banned by saying that.

[VashTheStampede]

Nick dont preach, thats all I can say parents should do this not Nick and if parents are not talking about it, so what it is still not a televison shows job to do so. I myself wish I had no knowledge of the subject but those are the breaks.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

I don't see why you people are spazzing now when Nick's pretty much been flushing itself down the toilet for the past couple of years.

[James Harvey]

First off, I applaud the posters who have been keeping a calm and collected head about this topic and discussing it rationally. Unfortunatly, some posters have not and have beem flying off the handle. One poster has...about three or four times...and has been promptly banned for breaking the rules. I understand how controversial this subject matter is, but please keep a cool head about this subject. If you can not, then simply don't reply. Hatred fill posts and out right bashings are not tolerated here, and will be deleted and lead to warnings and eventually a banning. So please...just follow the rules - that's all we mods ask.

Now...back to the subject...

[James]

I have no problem with this. Homosexuality is as real as hetrosexuality and I don't think should have to be dodged. I don't think either sexuality preferences should need to be explained explicitly at this is age, however, I think an understanding that some people of the same sex is something than kids should be told.

The sooner they learn this, the less likely they will fear homosexuals at a later age.

[Failure]

Maybe it's a good thing Nick is gonna show this. With some posters flying off the handle and others posting lesser ignorant remarks, I think that's evidence enough that somebody, shoot even Nickelodeon, might as well try to promote tolerance. I seriously doubt they're preaching and promoting homosexuality as a lifestyle, trying to turn kids onto it. Rather just a way to decrease the hate.

[ButteredToast]

Here's more info on this whole big "Nick Gay Show" thing...

http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/petition/nick.htm

"Traditional Values Coalition"? Might as well call themselves "The Soccer Moms Association of Amerika."

(Yes, I put the K in America on purpose.)

[Nightwing]

I'm sure the show won't be preechy at all. The mommies wouldn't want that anyway. Of course, I would like it to be on the light side, but at the same time I still think SOMETHING is necessary. It'd be easier to understand and tolerate at that young an age, because they'll accept it as a normal part of human life.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

::reads the article:: The hell? From what the original post in this thread said, it sounded like it was gonna be a kiddy show, not Nick News. Hello, Nick NEWS. Even if kids watch it, it's a NEWS show, therefore they have the rights to discuss homosexual families. Why is everyone getting their shorts in a wad over this?

[Yuss]

I was going to post that snopes link... snopes is one of my favorite sites.

This is ONE episode of ONE show which nobody watches. It's not a series, wow.

~B+:

[Evil Dr. Reef]

Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
::reads the article:: The hell? From what the original post in this thread said, it sounded like it was gonna be a kiddy show, not Nick News. Hello, Nick NEWS. Even if kids watch it, it's a NEWS show, therefore they have the rights to discuss homosexual families. Why is everyone getting their shorts in a wad over this?
*applause*
Exactly. This is not a bad idea. It just pisses off the uptight "soccer moms" because they don't want to feel uncomfortable discussing homosexuality with their kids. God forbid that parents discuss something contorversial with their chidren.

[pzcman]

snopes i awesome.
now back on topic:
last time i even heard of Nick news was their 10th anaversery show. i was like "WTF? never heard of this in the past 5 years..." well, hopefully it won't be two gay muscle building cartoon guys, but an actual serious show. if it is really serious then, i guess you can play it...

[VashTheStampede]

Why is it so wrong to hate? As long as you dont stand in the way of the person you hate should be allowed to have those feelings instead of being told how they should and have to feel. I dont like what gays do but im not gonna stand in their way or mess with them for it but I should be allowed to feel that way and not preached to about how wrong I may be. Let me hate and i will let you be.


Even if kids watch it, it's a NEWS show, therefore they have the rights to discuss homosexual families

Since when is the fact that there are homosexuals NEWS? :)

[James]

Originally posted by VashTheStampede
Why is it so wrong to hate? As long as you dont stand in the way of the person you hate should be allowed to have those feelings instead of being told how they should and have to feel. I dont like what gays do but im not gonna stand in their way or mess with them for it but I should be allowed to feel that way and not preached to about how wrong I may be. Let me hate and i will let you be.


It is a preferable to philosophy to hate inactively rather than is a practical way, but I think the idea is to educate kids so they don't let their emotions fester into hatred.
These are people who have done nothing wrong and yet are subject to the most active hatred across the world. I think trying to educate people into understanding and appreciating diversity is something of vital importance.
No one is there to sneer at your beliefs, but are there just to give people the information in the hope that they won't end up hating others. I don't think there is a need to.

I don't see it as preaching. No one is preaching. Somethings are hidden from kids as if it's dirty. We must let kids know that practically, it's how some people are, through no fault of their own - and it's what they are happy to be. It's not a disease, it's not wrong, it just is.

I think kids should understand the validity of that and then come to terms with their own opinions.

If homosexuality is not hidden like a dirty secret, hopefully people will be less inclined to see it as a dirty part of society.



Since when is the fact that there are homosexuals NEWS? :)

To kids it is. Homosexuality as a concept is hidden from kids as if it was an infectuous disease. That, IMO, is wrong. Kids don't need the details - as I have said, the same goes for hetrosexuality - but they should understand that's what some people are. In the same way some people are men, some are women, some are black, some are white. Less news, more like simple concepts of life.

[VashTheStampede]

Thanks, this has been constructive lets all have one big group hug. :) :D :cool: :yakko: :wakko: :dot:

[Zorakfan]

Alright....I have no problem with homosexuals, although don't think that its...right, but this is DEFINATELY something that should not air to 8-13 year olds. All you're going to end up doing is screwing them up. May as well show em' porn, or try discussing STDs, or something like that. My train of thought crashed a LOOOONG time ago regarding Nickelodeon.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

It's not airing specifically for 8-13-year-olds, it's airing for anyone who sees it. We still watch Nick News and Channel One at my high school, and we may very well end up watching this.

[James]

Originally posted by Zorakfan
Alright....I have no problem with homosexuals, although don't think that its...right, but this is DEFINATELY something that should not air to 8-13 year olds. All you're going to end up doing is screwing them up. May as well show em' porn, or try discussing STDs, or something like that. My train of thought crashed a LOOOONG time ago regarding Nickelodeon.

I don't think talking about homosexuality compares with discussing pornography or STD. Firstly, homosexuality as an orientation is not specifically to do with sex. This is about opening kid's eyes to the fact, that sometimes people of the same sex love each other.

Now whether you or I believe it is morally acceptable is not an issue, however preparing kids for the premise that this orientation is out there and a lot of people are this way is paramount.

Kids need to know that they are not alone if they discover they are homosexual. They need to understand it's a part of life. That it is acceptable to talk about it and that it's not something that's evil.

I recall when I was a kid and I was terrified that I would be 'gay'. As if this social affliction would fall on me whether I liked it or not. That I would somehow become a lesser person. I never turned out to be gay - and that shows how this is an issue for the hetrosexual kids too.

My point is that unless eduacted, it can be scary for any kid - hetro or homosexual if being 'gay' is made a tabboo. It becomes a disease that all kids fear - no matter how they end up. It annoys me that I ever felt that way - but I didn't know better.

To me, this is less to do with Nikelodeon but to do with us. We all have to accept that kids need to understand that people can be gay and that's alright - no matter where your interest finally lies.

[Fish]

Originally posted by SJJ


I don't think talking about homosexuality compares with discussing pornography or STD. Firstly, homosexuality as an orientation is not specifically to do with sex. This is about opening kid's eyes to the fact, that sometimes people of the same sex love each other.

Now whether you or I believe it is morally acceptable is not an issue, however preparing kids for the premise that this orientation is out there and a lot of people are this way is paramount.

Kids need to know that they are not alone if they discover they are homosexual. They need to understand it's a part of life. That it is acceptable to talk about it and that it's not something that's evil.

I recall when I was a kid and I was terrified that I would be 'gay'. As if this social affliction would fall on me whether I liked it or not. That I would somehow become a lesser person. I never turned out to be gay - and that shows how this is an issue for the hetrosexual kids too.

My point is that unless eduacted, it can be scary for any kid - hetro or homosexual if being 'gay' is made a tabboo. It becomes a disease that all kids fear - no matter how they end up. It annoys me that I ever felt that way - but I didn't know better.

To me, this is less to do with Nikelodeon but to do with us. We all have to accept that kids need to understand that people can be gay and that's alright - no matter where your interest finally lies.


I love your post SJJ and I totally agree. I think it utterly cool that Nick is airing it...I have never watched Nick cuz ppl said it sucked and I really don't like the cartoons they have, but now I have a reason to watch it.
I remember when readin Plato and old greek myths and stories, that homosexuality is a normal thing - ofcourse there also were people then who wrote books about it being wrong, but it was widly believed that there was nothing wrong with it - a person with both traits from men and women were seen as something special.

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[DougGoneMAD]

I think this is the most retarded thing that they could possibly do, but hell, who cares? This is frickin' NICK NEWS, possibly one of the least watched shows in the world. No kids watch that show anyway, and this time many parents won't even let their kids watch it.