The Disney Censored 13 ?

[Nelson]

Here is what I hope that will be the definte list of the banned Disney cartoons.
CANNIBAL CAPERS
TRADER MICKEY
MICKEY IN ARABIA
MICKEY'S MELLERDRAMER
MICKEY'S MAN FRIDAY
REASON AND EMOTION
EDUCATION FOR DEATH
DER FUEHRER'S FACE
COMMANDO DUCK
CAMOFLAUGE
CALIFORNY OR BUST
HOW TO BE A DECTECTIVE?
SONG OF THE SOUTH

Now this should be the entire list, unless the "Goofy" cartoon, "How To Be An Decetive" (Just let me know)is not considered a banned cartoon.This short deals with guns and violence.
But I'm very lucky to have almost all of the censored Disney cartoons on video, very much....

Tell me what you think fellas!!!

[Thad Komorowski]

I think I've seen "How to Be a Dectective" recently on Disney. If I didn't, I don't know why. They air "The Dognapper" with alot of the cartoon cut out (because of guns). Also, "Reason and Emotion" shouldn't be on the list, since it still airs edited, with more than half of the cartoon cut out.

-Thad:D

[Pietro]

What about Ub Iwerks' 1929 Disney cartoon, "Hell's Bells" the Disney channel NEVER aired that.

-Pietro

[Nelson]

I remember David Gerstein telling me that "Hell's Bell's is not a banned cartoon, just because it isn't shown on tv or video he told me, that doesn't make it a censored cartoon.It even may turn up on a upcoming dvd Disney release in the future.Who Knows???

[Sveven Dvorking]

There are probably hundreds of Disney cartoons that have never aired on the Disney Channel. Think about it... all they have is Ink & Paint Club!


Sveven "What am I doing here? I am not a Disney fan!" Dvorking

[Pietro]

Trust me, they have more than just The Ink and Paint Club.
Well, at least now I know it's a relief that "Hell's Bells" is not banned.

-Pietro

[Rob]

Trust me, they have more than just The Ink and Paint Club.

Although I remember when the Disney Channel showed a lot more classic cartoons than they do now. Now they're mainly airing preschool programs, or those crappy made-for-TV movies that the Disney Channel seems to specialize in anymore. Every now and then they'll show a decent movie, like SUPERMAN II last night.

But can anyone tell me just what the hell a "Zoog" is? Last night they were showing SUPERMAN II as a "Zoog Movie," whatever THAT means. I've also seen promos for "Zoog Weekends." Sounds pretty lame whatever it means...

[TServo2049]

Originally posted by Rob
Although I remember when the Disney Channel showed a lot more classic cartoons than they do now.

Yeah. Back then, they showed more good programming, period. A lot of great movies, both Disney and non-Disney (they showed a lot MORE non-Disney movies back then, including the LOONEY TUNES COMPILATION MOVIES), a lot of good documentaries and specials, GOOD made-for-TV movies, and some pretty good series (including a little Canadian cartoon called The Raccoons; anyone remember it?)

[Joe Tully]

including a little Canadian cartoon called The Raccoons; anyone remember it?

Heck yeah! I used to watch that all the time, with Cedric the Aardvark and Shaeffer the sheepdog, and the little kid sheepdog , and lots of cool characters. That was great.

They used to show regular specials on Disney that were compilations of their own cartoons, too, often with live action connecting the shorts. I have a few of those on tape. Haven't watched them in ages, I hope they're still intact after all those years. They also did a bunch of Dinosaur specials with Gary Owens, some of which used claymation. Speaking of which, they also showed a few of those Claymation specials, such as the Christmas one, and a California Raisins one. You could also see black and white Disney cartoons DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS! Incredible.

Yeesh, now I'm sounding like someone's Grandpa. Why in them good old days...

[Sveven Dvorking]

Is it true that nowadays they only have Ink and Paint Club? Have they dropped all the other classic cartoon showings?

I would assume the answer is yes, but I am trying to confirm that.

[hippety hopper]

Originally posted by TServo2049

(including a little Canadian cartoon called The Raccoons; anyone remember it?)

LITTLE!
That is like one of the most popular cartoons on british TV.
They started showing back in the early 90's and they havn't stopped,they keep re-playing the episodes over and over again!

But then again it did have the best theme tune EVER....

Run with us,we've got everything you need
Run with us,were on speed(Or something like that)

[TServo2049]

Originally posted by Sveven Dvorking
Is it true that nowadays they only have Ink and Paint Club? Have they dropped all the other classic cartoon showings?

Sadly, yes. Disney doesn't care about their old cartoons anymore.

[Thad Komorowski]

It's also very sad to see Donald Duck lighting a match and smoking a cigar edited at 5AM, while a certain show (which I refuse to mention) had a bedroom scene, UNCUT, during ZoogDisney, when kids are watching TV. No, not that uncut.

-Thad:D

[bushnader666]

I've never understood why Disney Channel is even remotely popular. There's zero good programming, Ink and Paint Clubs are as rare as a hen's tooth, and the channel is littered with teen pop schlock. The same basic thing is happening to Viacoms's Nick.

[Nelson]

The way I see it is this...Disney doesn't have to issue a statement regarding what's banned or not banned from public viewing, but for cartoon fans all over the world, the fans know what is censored or banned, and we don't need a major studio to tell us that.
I think it's a shame the many fans won't be able to see such classic Disney cartoon such as: "Der Fuehrer's Face", "Mickey's Mellerdramer", "Education For Death", "Cannibal Capers", and "Trader Mickey". I'm very fortunate to own at least 11 of 13 cartoons on video and in good prints, and who know's when Disney releases the Disney collection on DVD, if these cartoons will be shown in it's original verison or edited.
But the bottom line is this...The Disney studio needs to realize that there is an audience for these types of cartoons, and by releasing them to home video would "SELL" like crazy.The studio has already destroyed the cartoon legacy of Walt Disney, by censoring classic Disney on recent dvd releases.

[hippety hopper]

I'm surprised that the 1954 short "Spare the rod" isn't on this list(that deals with cannibles and hitting children),but I've heard that disney do show the cartoon they just cut it from 6mins to 2 and a half mins!!!!!!!!

All I can say is thank god that disney channel UK has the same rules as Cartoon network UK and that's to play the cartoon's they was they get them(Luckly that means most of them are un-cut)

[Thad Komorowski]

Yes, it's sad to say, but "Spare the Rod" does indeed air still on the Disney Channel, reduced to 3 1/2 minutes. :mad: :( :mad:

-Thad:D

[Sveven Dvorking]

Fools! That's who, fools! Of course, my sister is a fool.:p She watches that television station for over 2 hours on many days. And she loves it! She watches the modern shows and modern movies and laughs like crazy!

Sveven "It's a sad world, isn't it?" Dvorking

[Pietro]

There used to be this thing on the Disney Channel called "The Disney Afternoon" with old and new cartoons on it.

-Pietro

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by Pietro
There used to be this thing on the Disney Channel called "The Disney Afternoon" with old and new cartoons on it.

But there isn't anymore!

I'm still waiting for an answer to this question: Is the only showcase of classic cartoons with sound on the D*sn*y channel the Ink & Paint Club?

Sveven ":confused:" Dvorking

[Jon Cooke]

Originally posted by Sveven Dvorking
I'm still waiting for an answer to this question: Is the only showcase of classic cartoons with sound on the D*sn*y channel the Ink & Paint Club?

Yes, the Ink and Paint Club is the only source for classic Disney shorts on the Disney Channel. And they have been playing the same 60 episodes over and over since 1998. They used to also have Donald's Quack Attack and Mickey Mouse Tracks during the daytime... but those have been gone for a couple years now.


-Jon

[hippety hopper]

We don't even get Classic toons on Disney channel(well there sometimes dotted in between shows).
I have to wait untill 9:00pm when Toondisney(Do you guys have that?) shows an hour of toons,and recently the have started repeating them as well.

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by hippety hopper
We don't even get Classic toons on Disney channel(well there sometimes dotted in between shows).
I have to wait untill 9:00pm when Toondisney(Do you guys have that?) shows an hour of toons,and recently the have started repeating them as well.

I don't have Toond*sn*y. Everyone in my family (including me) doesn't think it is worth the money. I doubt they even air classics in the United States anyway.

[Cartman]

Originally posted by Sveven: I don't get Toond*sn*y. Everyone in my family (including me) doesn't think it's worth the money. I doubt they even show classics in the United States anyway.


Actually, they do show the classic cartoons at 6 A.M./5C on weekdays. It's a series called DONALD'S QUACK ATTACK. Besides time fillers that are shown after the Friday night movie, that's about the only time they ever air the classic cartoons on Toon Disney. :(

[Garrett]

Toon Disney is utter crap. Even modern shows like Gargoyles and Darkwing Duck get edited for content regularly. To say nothing of the DIC and Nelvana sludge that they show regularly......

Garrett

[PorkyandDaffy]

What the heck do they edit in GARGOYLES and DARKWING DUCK?:confused:

[Garrett]

Well, for one, the episode where Eliza is shot isn't even shown. Plus, some of the violence is taken out of a number of the battles. I can't remember the titles, but one of the battles royale at the castle with Xanatos has an edit or two, and there are quite a few during the major battles at Avalon, IIRC.

As for DW, I almost crapped my pants when I saw an episode with Negaduck in it (as his eps tended to be the most violent), and I still have yet to see an ep with Taurus Bulba (he being the other major source of violence and darkness on DW) on the network. Can't give any exact examples of editing, though.

[Cartman]

Someone mentioned Nelvana? Isn't that the company that produced that sickingly cute show "Care Bears" What the heck is that s*** doing on Toon Disney? It isn't even Disney. :mad:

[sun]

Most know that Disney had trouble getting Fantasia thru the cesors. So he had to put some kind of tops on the horse/human women. Almost no one knows that if you play the last segment of Fantasia, Night on Bald Mountain, you will see, if you go slow a huge breast with a large nipple coming out from a deep cavern in the earth along with other odd sexual conotations. Disney, as did all of Hollywood, dispised the censors,a nd I am sure that that is why that is there. In the theater, it goes much too fast to see, like ,"did I really see something?"......Of course no one really noticed upon release in movie houses in the 40s and after. With video tape, this is not some kind of immagination, it clear..oldtoonguy

[Jon Cooke]

While I can't say I am a regular viewer of Darkwing Duck , I have stumbled accross "Nega Duck" episodes a few times while flipping through the channels. They can't be that rare. But I am not surprised to find they edit the show for content. Awhile back, I got an e-mail containing a surprisingly long list of edits Toon Disney has made to DuckTales (!!!!!!??)... believe it or else..


-Jon

[Kero]

Originally posted by Jon Cooke
While I can't say I am a regular viewer of Darkwing Duck , I have stumbled accross "Nega Duck" episodes a few times while flipping through the channels. They can't be that rare. But I am not surprised to find they edit the show for content. Awhile back, I got an e-mail containing a surprisingly long list of edits Toon Disney has made to DuckTales (!!!!!!??)... believe it or else..


-Jon

Ducktales!!!

That show has no violence in it from what I remember.

Kero

[PorkyandDaffy]

Hey, Jon -

If you still have that list on edits to DUCKTALES, can you e-mai it to me?

[Garrett]

Originally posted by PorkyandDaffy
Hey, Jon -

If you still have that list on edits to DUCKTALES, can you e-mai it to me?

I'd like to see this list as well, just to see what types of editsthere could be in a show like DuckTales.....

Garrett

[David Gerstein]

I'd like a copy of the list as a private e-mail, too. Whoever has it, please put me down.
On a different note: Images of the Care Bears on the Toon Disney website show a prominent (C) DISNEY. Evidently, though I wasn't aware of it before, Disney seems to have bought these characters, or at least the series, to the point of owning it completely. It aired on the original Disney Channel as early as, I think, around 1990.
Do I like the series? No. Does somebody like it? They must...

[starlioness]

*grumbles* why do they take away the good stuff and put shlop in its place . I have not seen a halfway decent cartoon since 1994. Disney or not. Gargoyles in one of the best shows ever not for its violence, but its themes and so forth. and" Deadly Force"
deals with the consequnces of guns in General, face it , animation has sunk , or is sinkng. :mad: :rolleyes: :eek: :(

[Cartman]

I think what Toon Disney should do is put "Good Morning Mickey" and "Donald Duck Presents" on their channel. Those shorts may be edited for time, but at least they were made before Disney began censoring their contents. What's interesting to note about "Good Morning Mickey," is that the version of STEAMBOAT WILLIE included the following scene: after Mickey pulls the nursing piglets in tune to music, he removes them and begins playing the mother sow's teats. This scene is censored on both video and television,but was shown on GMM. ;)

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Cartman
STEAMBOAT WILLIE included the following scene: after Mickey pulls the nursing piglets in tune to music, he removes them and begins playing the mother sow's teats. This scene is censored on both video and television,but was shown on GMM. ;)

That's odd-on the old "Limited Gold" video series, that scene was intact on the Mickey tape. Come to think of it, I need someone to transfer my old Beta copies of the Mickey and Donald tapes to VHS. :D

Garrett

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by Garrett
That's odd-on the old "Limited Gold" video series, that scene was intact on the Mickey tape.

Do you have some sort of special copy, because my copy of that tape is the usual edited print...

-Thad:D

[Glenn]

Does anyone own the Mickey Mouse B&W Years Collection?
I will be receiving this LD set this week. Is Steamboat Willie edited in this set?
If no one has this, I will post my findings when I receive it.

Glenn

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Thad Komorowski


Do you have some sort of special copy, because my copy of that tape is the usual edited print...

Beats me-I was six when that series came out! :p It may have been the first pressing, or whatnot. In fact, I'm surprised that those tapes would be edited-1984 was before Disney and Eisner got evil.

Garrett

[Cartman]

1984 was before Disney and Eisner got evil.

That edit in STEAMBOAT WILLIE was not censored during Eisner's reign. It was edited back in 1953 for its theatrical release during Mickey's 25th birthday. The people who made the video are probably not censoring it purposely. They are just using the copy that they pulled off a shelf. In the case of GMM, Disney just happened to pull off the sow-teat version. But because it was still edited for time, the scene with Pete chewing tobbacco and the animals at the landing site were deleted.

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Cartman
In the case of GMM, Disney just happened to pull off the sow-teat version. But because it was still edited for time, the scene with Pete chewing tobbacco and the animals at the landing site were deleted.

You guys are going to hate me, but I distinctly remember those scenes on my tape, as well. :D

Garrett

[Jack]

Perhaps the beta version is different.


Jack:D

[sun]

In the early 80s Disney sold on Video Tape something called the Golden Collection or some such.....It contained 3-5 of thier best early 30s cartoons. All the academy award winners. Those have been out of ciruculation for at least 12 - 13 years. Disney takes things out, then sells them again later, takes them out, and sells them again.. It is their style. Fantasia was re-released at least 3 times before it made back what it cost, then re-released again another 2 or 3 times...They won't put the good stuff on TV, because they are going to rerelease it on video or DVD and charge an arm and a leg.
When Warner's started releasing its classic toons in the mid 80s, Chcuk Jones collection, Fritz, Mel Blanc collection. They put in 8 cartoons and sold them for 1/3 the price. As bad as Warners can be, someone can be worse....

[Jon Cooke]

The Cartoon Classics Limited Edition Gold (and the original Cartoon Classics series) from the 1980s actually included 6-8 cartoons per tape. The Cartoon Classics tapes with only 3 cartoons (Here's Mickey, Here's Donald, etc.) came out later.

My copy of the Gold MICKEY tape also has an edited "Steamboat Willie". The part where Mickey pulls on the piglets to make music is there... but there is certainly no scene where the Mouse plays the mother sow's teats.


-Jon

[sun]

Originally posted by Jon Cooke
The Cartoon Classics Limited Edition Gold (and the original Cartoon Classics series) from the 1980s actually included 6-8 cartoons per tape. The Cartoon Classics tapes with only 3 cartoons (Here's Mickey, Here's Donald, etc.) came out later.

My copy of the Gold MICKEY tape also has an edited "Steamboat Willie". The part where Mickey pulls on the piglets to make music is there... but there is certainly no scene where the Mouse plays the mother sow's teats.


-Jon

Sorry about the mistake, haven't actually seen one of those in a very long time, and didn't get any at the time. Thanks for the correction...old toon guy

[Nelson]

I have the unedited version of "STEAMBOAT WILLIE" including the scene where Mickey pulls on the piglets tails, along with Mickey pulling the cat's tail and the spinning the cat around and letting him go.