View Full Version : Is Invader Zim cancelled?
spamspam2
06-05-2002, 11:01 PM
I've read both things on the news boards. Is this show cancelled or not? I just discovered this series 2 weeks ago and need more. MORE!!
Invader Dag
06-05-2002, 11:53 PM
yesh it is, sorry, enjoy it while it lasts
Andy Mancini
06-06-2002, 12:10 AM
If you want more Zim-like material, I suggest Jhonen Vasquez's comic book "Squee". Dib and Zim are definately reworked versions of the comic's two main characters, Todd (Squee) and Pepito the Antichrist. By the way, the alien that abduct Zim in "Abducted" are the aliens the that contantly try to abdsuct Squee in the comic.
Yes, despite what Hot Topic employees will tell you.
spamspam2
06-06-2002, 08:10 PM
So let me get this straight. The one show I like on Nickelodeon is getting cancelled. I'm glad that Cartoon Network is beating them.
Allen's Nickname.
06-06-2002, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by spamspam2
So let me get this straight. The one show I like on Nickelodeon is getting cancelled. I'm glad that Cartoon Network is beating them.
They aren't. But CN is catching up.
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-06-2002, 09:38 PM
Uhm, it got cancelled before the second season episodes even started airing. Nick seriously cheezed off Vasquez when they went back and edited the episodes featuring the Swollen Eyeball Network and the FBI Warnings on tapes after part of his contract said there would be no censoring done to the series whatsoever. The agreement was that Nick would go ahead and air all of the episodes that had been finished, but there would be no new ones made, and the series was canned.
HoloRimmer
06-06-2002, 10:13 PM
Good ol' Nick. Canceling the few shows on the Network with any real promise in favor of some more rugrats clones. Brilliant plan Nick. :rolleyes:
Nickdisk
06-06-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by spamspam2
I've read both things on the news boards. Is this show cancelled or not? I just discovered this series 2 weeks ago and need more. MORE!! yep, sadly, Zim has been cancelled :( from what i've heard, Nick cancelled it due to low ratings :eek:
Nick USA doesnt know how to treat Zim IMO.. Nick UK & AUS both aired FBI Warning & Door to Door way before Nick USA aired them (plus many more Nicktoons have had new episodes aired on Nick UK way before Nick USA aired them, including Spongebob & Rocket Power) ;)
Alaskanbullworm
06-06-2002, 11:26 PM
From what I heard, it was WAY too expensve per episode and when the rating came in, the Nick people thought it was too low. They should have given it time.
It was cancelled for a number of reasons. It cost a ton, with all the special effects and cel-shading used. It was getting low ratings. After 9/11, they were getting a lot of heat from sensitive viewers. In the end, ZIM was just too much hassle. Yeah, NICK knew the show would make a lot of money in time, but at the time, it was just a white elephant for them, and sweeps month was nearing.
~B+:
DemonKrowno
06-07-2002, 03:34 PM
Of course they cancelled Zim. It's a law that all good shows are to be cancelled. Like Freakazoid!,Clerks,MissionHill,FamilyGuy, the Oblongs,Downtown,and Undergrads,just to name a few.....It's the way of the universe.
GrayGhost
06-07-2002, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by DemonKrowno
Of course they cancelled Zim. It's a law that all good shows are to be cancelled. Like Freakazoid!,Clerks,MissionHill,FamilyGuy, and the Oblongs,just to name a few.....It's the way of the universe.
Hmm, weird, I was glad all of those were canceled. :D :eek:
Zim was getting low ratings so it was canned.
GrayGhost
06-07-2002, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by HoloRimmer
Good ol' Nick. Canceling the few shows on the Network with any real promise in favor of some more rugrats clones. Brilliant plan Nick. :rolleyes:
But see that is working for them. That is what the kiddies like. Television is all about the ratings. Ratings = ads = $$$ for Viacom.
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-07-2002, 07:47 PM
It wasn't canned because of ratings. Vasquez walked when Nickelodeon messed with a clause in his contract.
Galaxia
06-07-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by DemonKrowno
Of course they cancelled Zim. It's a law that all good shows are to be cancelled. Like Freakazoid!,Clerks,MissionHill,FamilyGuy, and the Oblongs,just to name a few.....It's the way of the universe.
true, but mission hill is on cartoon network's adult swim, & the oblongs will make their way there soon too, i hope.
DemonKrowno
06-07-2002, 09:49 PM
Yes and Freakazoid! still airs on CN around 5:00am....but it's still cancelled. Means no more new episodes. There's a rumor TNN may buy ZiM to show in their 2003/2004 adult cartoon block thing they're going to have...but they can't make new episodes. Eez saaaaad.
Nickdisk
06-07-2002, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by DemonKrowno
Of course they cancelled Zim. It's a law that all good shows are to be cancelled. seems that way at the moment, IMO :(
HoloRimmer
06-08-2002, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by GrayGhost
But see that is working for them. That is what the kiddies like. Television is all about the ratings. Ratings = ads = $$$ for Viacom.
That is sad yet true. Greedy Bastards.
Sandro
06-08-2002, 10:04 PM
Yeah, it's a sad thing. The one show that could pull Nickelodeon from the hole they dug themselves into and they cancel it. Morons! Okay, here's a question: If ZIM were to be bought by another network and new episodes were ordered, would Vasquez come back to make new ones?
Alaskanbullworm
06-08-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Sandro885
Yeah, it's a sad thing. The one show that could pull Nickelodeon from the hole they dug themselves into and they cancel it. Morons! Okay, here's a question: If ZIM were to be bought by another network and new episodes were ordered, would Vasquez come back to make new ones?
Vasquez said that the treatment he got from Nick made him decide to not be involved in animation anymore(from what I heard). Nick is way to greedy to let Zim turn into another Doug though. If Zim is ever picked up by Nick again, don't expect half of the original workers there.
Allen's Nickname.
06-08-2002, 10:45 PM
I think that Jhoen said that he wouldn't work with a kids network anymore. He might work with animators who arn't kids orented though. I'll look for an interwiew.
Nickdisk
06-08-2002, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Sandro885
Yeah, it's a sad thing. The one show that could pull Nickelodeon from the hole they dug themselves into and they cancel it. Morons! Okay, here's a question: If ZIM were to be bought by another network and new episodes were ordered, would Vasquez come back to make new ones?
i've heard a rumour that he doesnt want to work on Zim again, dunno if that rumour is true though :(
Jhonen Vasquez:
The idea of another network picking it up is unlikely. Anything's possible but I have no say in any of that as the network owns the show completely. In just such a magical world where ZIM starts up production again, it would not be with my supervision.
Steve Ressel:
. . . if Nick ever wants more episodes they will get less then 50 percent of the original crew and the show will look like CatDog. Who knows if Jhonen would return? Who knows if I would return, or [i] or anyone else....one thing is for sure- the show will not ever be the same after episode 27. Better or worse.
After Nick made the decision to cancel Zim I doubt they would go back on their word that easily, especially since the money alocated for Zim has most likely been passed onto 'Danny Fantom' or a development property.http://roomwithamoose.com/zim/vbulletin/images/smilies/tongue.gif~B+:
PeppeRaskell1
06-09-2002, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
Nick seriously cheezed off Vasquez when they went back and edited the episodes featuring the Swollen Eyeball Network and the FBI Warnings on tapes after part of his contract said there would be no censoring done to the series whatsoever.
And it sounds like the reason those episodes got edited was because Vasquez cheezed off the MIO's (Men In Orange) parent company, Viacom. (The "Swollen Eyeball Network" sounds like a crude reference to CBS.)
Nickdisk
06-09-2002, 11:09 PM
Jhonen Vasquez
The idea of another network picking it up is unlikely.
well, sinse Nick (and viacom) still owns the rights to Zim, dont plan on it ending up on Cartoon Network or another non-viacom channel anytime soon :) hopfully TNN will pick it up, sinse thats what they are doing with Ren & Stimpy :)
Allen's Nickname.
06-09-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Nickdisk
well, sinse Nick (and viacom) still owns the rights to Zim, dont plan on it ending up on Cartoon Network or another non-viacom channel anytime soon :) hopfully TNN will pick it up, sinse thats what they are doing with Ren & Stimpy :)
I read that they where selling the rights at Cannes. Could somebody confirm or reject that for me?
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-10-2002, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1
And it sounds like the reason those episodes got edited was because Vasquez cheezed off the MIO's (Men In Orange) parent company, Viacom. (The "Swollen Eyeball Network" sounds like a crude reference to CBS.)
Actually, that episode was edited because it's about an underground secretive group that people thought was a parody of the CIA. The episode "FBI Warning" got edited because it (obviously) poked a little fun at the FBI's expense. Even though these episodes were finished before 9/11, Nick thought it was inappropriate to joke about those organizations after that. Nevermind that a clause in Vasquez's project left him with the final decision on issues like that, they decided to cut things from them anyway.
How was FBI Warning of Doom edited? "Founded in 1492 by... demons..." If they were okay with that, what would they find offensive?
~B+:
Killtacular
06-10-2002, 12:23 PM
I'm surprised they didn't say 1942 instead of 1492.
Heehee.
Going by SQUEE!, it'd be 1429.
~B+:
The Drizzle
06-11-2002, 03:10 AM
Any chance Zim would be released on DVD? I can only hope so because I've only seen one or two episodes. I found them to be pure gold though.
It looks like I joined another party way too late.........
Not a chance, but you could always write letters and try.
~B+:
DemonKrowno
06-11-2002, 02:07 PM
Why can't they do like they did with Clerks and put it on DVD....and on that point,how were they able to put Clerks on DVD?
The Drizzle
06-11-2002, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by ~B+
Not a chance, but you could always write letters and try.
Why is there no chance? :confused:
Umm... hello? This is Nickelodeon. They have absolutely NO interest in what we want. They're here to saturate the media world with EASY MONEY. That involves making cheap cartoons and getting kids to like them. They do NOT want ZIM to be popular. Ever read "The Giver"? Nickelodeon is the world, and ZIM is the color red. We're the, umm... Giver-guy. (Haven't read it in a while...)
~B+:
Allen's Nickname.
06-11-2002, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by DemonKrowno
Why can't they do like they did with Clerks and put it on DVD....and on that point,how were they able to put Clerks on DVD?
Kevin Smith backed the Clerks DVD.
Who would back the Invader Zim DVD? Jhoen? That'll work.
The Drizzle
06-11-2002, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by ~B+
Umm... hello?
Hello. :p
I guess I'll tape what I can before Zim's gone for good. :yawn:
I'd still like to make my point clear though, Nickelodeon Sucks!
When I first heard Invader Zim was cancelled I was shocked! My friend is a huge Invader Zim fan and when I told he was saddened.
I hope Jhonen makes since and bring back Invader Zim!
Nickdisk
06-12-2002, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Spaz13_88
I read that they where selling the rights at Cannes. Could somebody confirm or reject that for me?
from c21 media :) (press release from 10 Apr 2002)
Nick sci-fi animation takes a trip down to Cannes
MTV Networks International will be at MipTV next week armed with Nickelodeon's first foray into sci-fi animation - Invader Zim.
The creation of Jhonen Vasquez, the 26x30' animation Invader Zim (pictured) will get its first outing down in Cannes next week. The show's protagonist is Zim, a paranoid alien from planet Irk who believes he must conquer Earth with the help of his deranged robot sidekick, Gir.
btw, new Invader Zim episodes should start airing this Saturday morning at 7.30am on Nick UK :)
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-12-2002, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by The Red Giant
When I first heard Invader Zim was cancelled I was shocked! My friend is a huge Invader Zim fan and when I told he was saddened.
I hope Jhonen makes since and bring back Invader Zim!
Hello, have you been reading the posts in this thread at all? Vasquez is no longer on the project. He is gone, he has walked from Nick, he has no interest in ever doing a children's show again. If ZIM is renewed, it won't be him doing it.
Originally posted by Mr_Vegeta
Any chance Zim would be released on DVD? I can only hope so because I've only seen one or two episodes. I found them to be pure gold though.
It looks like I joined another party way too late......... Ditto..I just started to get into this show and it gets canceled. I haven't seen many episodes, but what I have seen was beyond impressive. The animation of a cartoon is always a key factor that helps determine whether I like it or not. If I don't like the style of a cartoon and the way it's drawn...then I don't like the cartoon. It's that simple. Invader Zim went WAY beyond my standards. It's painfully obvious how much effort was put into the show. The episodes I saw were pretty damn funny as well. Awesome writing and animation...this show was one of a kind. It will be sorely missed. Invader Zim, I hardly knew ye.
Show's I like seem to always get canceled. *kills Nickelodeon*
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-12-2002, 08:46 AM
(URL deleted)
That site has just about every Zim episode that's been aired available for download. Go knock yerself out and enjoy the dark humor spawned by the twisted minds of Jhonen Vasquez, Steve Ressel, Roman Dirge, and Frank Coniff.
*^-^*
The Drizzle
06-12-2002, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
(URL deleted)
That site has just about every Zim episode that's been aired available for download. Go knock yerself out and enjoy the dark humor spawned by the twisted minds of Jhonen Vasquez, Steve Ressel, Roman Dirge, and Frank Coniff.
*^-^*
Thanks a ton, except......
I would be downloading those now if I didn't have a dial-up connection. :mad: I don't know which I hate more, dial-up or Nick......
Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
(URL deleted)
That site has just about every Zim episode that's been aired available for download. Go knock yerself out and enjoy the dark humor spawned by the twisted minds of Jhonen Vasquez, Steve Ressel, Roman Dirge, and Frank Coniff.
*^-^* Hey thanks! :D
(URL deleted) also has an upcoming episode, Hobo 13 / Walk for Your Lives, up for download (and they have links to nearly every ZIM-downloading site on Earth). (URL deleted) releases High-Quality DivX episodes every weekend.
~B+, here to help:
ninjagirl
06-12-2002, 03:04 PM
seems like any show i like gets cancelled
(can anyone tell i'm trying to get enough posts to get an avatar?)
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-12-2002, 03:21 PM
Uhm, you can change it yourself in the preference section of your control panel.
Why the heck were those urls deleted?.....
zimbach
06-12-2002, 03:53 PM
The URLs were probably deleted because the admins (or some busybody reporting it to them :mad: ) thought they constituted video piracy. They gotta be careful nothing "illeeegul" is on their boards, after all.
Originally posted by zimbach
The URLs were probably deleted because the admins (or some busybody reporting it to them :mad: ) thought they constituted video piracy. They gotta be careful nothing "illeeegul" is on their boards, after all. Oh, well fortunately I already added the site to my favorite's lists.
Toon Zone doesn't support bootlegging shows, and I agree.
Mackenzie Rainelle
06-12-2002, 08:39 PM
Eh, no offense, but how is it stealing from the company if the company doesn't air the product? It's not like they're still trying to make profit on it, replacing it with The Fairly Oddparents or Spongebob every other week.
spamspam2
06-12-2002, 09:07 PM
I agree, why should companies care about a product that they hate and are canning? If they aren't gonna show it, then at least let us show it. Stupid man, always keeping us down.
DemonKrowno
06-12-2002, 09:13 PM
It's like as if a store has lots of one product,so they don't put some on the shelf. Just cuase it's not on the shelf doesn't mean it's free.
Originally posted by DemonKrowno
It's like as if a store has lots of one product,so they don't put some on the shelf. Just cuase it's not on the shelf doesn't mean it's free. Um what?
That's a pretty bad analogy...I fail to see the comparison.
I agree with Mackenzie Rainelle and spamspam2. It's not like Nick is selling the episodes on DVD/VHS...so they aren't loosing any money from it. It's not effecting their profits at all. Why should they even care?
Evil Dr. Reef
06-12-2002, 11:33 PM
Origianlly posted by Meow
It's not like Nick is selling the episodes on DVD/VHS...so they aren't loosing any money from it. It's not effecting their profits at all. Why should they even care?
Becasue they still get money from the commercials they air during it. And since Nick is one greedy bastard of a heartless corporation, they want to squeeze all of the money out of Zim that they can while it's still airing. Just because the series isn't being sold by the company that owns it doesn't mean that DLing the episodes is any less illegal. That's why Fucinet was closed. And it's the same reason Video Game ROM sites are being hounded by Sega/Nintendo/Sony lawyers.
Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
Becasue they still get money from the commercials they air during it. And since Nick is one greedy bastard of a heartless corporation, they want to squeeze all of the money out of Zim that they can while it's still airing. Just because the series isn't being sold by the company that owns it doesn't mean that DLing the episodes is any less illegal. That's why Fucinet was closed. And it's the same reason Video Game ROM sites are being hounded by Sega/Nintendo/Sony lawyers. Much to learn about the TV industry I have.
I guess I should just be quiet and stop assuming I know what I'm talking about when I obviously don't.
Evil Dr. Reef
06-13-2002, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Meow
Much to learn about the TV industry I have.
I guess I should just be quiet and stop assuming I know what I'm talking about when I obviously don't.
Nah. I had pretty much the same feelings on this matter until I realized all the info I posted in the above thread. Although I do wish that Zim would end up on DVD.
Nickdisk
06-13-2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Evil Dr. Reef
Although I do wish that Zim would end up on DVD. me too :( doubt it will happen though :(
although, i dunno if its offical, but there has been rumours of an Invader Zim soundtrack being released later this year..
Yes, Kevin Manthei (the music composer) is assembling a fantastic soundtrack of ZIM music. It should be out this summer.
~B+:
Nickdisk
06-14-2002, 10:20 PM
COOL!!! :cool: thanks ~B+ :)
Scythemantis
06-14-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by ~B+
After 9/11, they were getting a lot of heat from sensitive viewers.
I`ll probably take a lot of "heat" myself for this, but sensitivity like this actually outright angers me.
99% of people offended by something never have anything to do with that something in the first place. African Americans use the "n word" among eachother all the time, the mentally handicapped could care less about what others think of them (they seem to just enjoy life no matter what. Good people.) and I somehow doubt anyone actually involved in the wtc is watching zim and saying "OMG! Alien invasion reminds me of terrorism! *CRY!* "
It should be noted that this post was originally a long, cruel rant, but I toned it down considerably. I`m not THAT insensitive.
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