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Storm
06-03-2002, 04:34 PM
Jennifer Garner as Elektra (http://www.comics2film.com/StoryFrame.php?f_id=1066)

Enjoy :D

Cogliostro
06-03-2002, 04:35 PM
I really wished they would have made it red then it would be great. The Black is alright but doesn't say Elektra...


This is my kind of Elektra (Cover to Elektra #13)...

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0802/elektra_13.jpg


But without the snake bit :p...

Theking
06-03-2002, 05:11 PM
Wow your right, if that first pix. was in red that would be just perfect I imagine.

theKing

JohnStewart-GL
06-03-2002, 05:34 PM
It looks great shes got her sai and everything.

James Harvey
06-03-2002, 06:26 PM
Here's the image:

http://www.comics2film.com/images/Daredevil/Elektra.jpg

Storm
06-03-2002, 06:40 PM
I like the pic I wouldn't mind if red was in it but it's cool. Maybe she will wear her red do dads in the sequel (if their is a sequel)

James
06-03-2002, 07:47 PM
Yeah, she needs the red to make her stand out from all the othe black leather clad ladies we have on the big screen today (how old do I sound?! In my day, etc).

TheHuntressDiana
06-03-2002, 07:53 PM
I'll bet that they made it black so they both wouldn't "match." Which, I think is incredibly lame.

But I agree...if it was red, it would be so much better.

Evil Dr. Reef
06-03-2002, 08:29 PM
Not too shabby. In the sense that the picture rocks, and all. But the classic Red suit would've looked better.

Memphis Bleek
06-03-2002, 08:49 PM
http://www.comics2film.com/images/Daredevil/Elektra.jpg [/B][/QUOTE]

Hot! Jennifer Garner was definately the right choice for Elektra. It doesn't bother me that her costume isn't red.

Jerry Mouse
06-03-2002, 09:47 PM
WOW!! :eek: :D :)

The Guard
06-03-2002, 09:59 PM
Jennifer Garner is not the best choice for Elektra. I can name about three or four other woman that would have been better, looked more like Elektra. She looks ok in the picture. The black makes sense, since she's an assassin.

Gyro
06-03-2002, 10:08 PM
Wow, that's really cool. I don't mind that it's not red. Red, black, it really doesn't matter to me. Besides, black is a better color choice for an assassin. From what I've seen Jennifer Garner do on Alias, I think she'll make a great Elektra.

Christopher N. Denner
06-03-2002, 10:37 PM
Perhaps they changed it because Elektra's red might have clashed with Daredevil's suit.

Joe Wagner
06-04-2002, 09:33 AM
WOW! I honestly think Jennifer Garner was the best choice for Elektra. While some of the others may have looked closer to the comic I know that Jennifer Garner can both act and do the action sequences - there's a reason that I'm addicted to Alias on Sundays.

While I think red would have been great I think we all seem to be missing the bigger picture - the sensationally hot Jennifer Garner in tight black leather. Any questions? :p

-Joe!

James
06-04-2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Christopher N. Denner
Perhaps they changed it because Elektra's red might have clashed with Daredevil's suit.

That's quite probable. Also as The Guard pointed out, Red might have looked a little out of place for an assasin... Still, she does looks so, well, ordinary in the Black. I hoped for something more striking (clothes wise).

Karkull
06-04-2002, 11:58 AM
Eh, that's not Electra, it's Jennifer Garner in a black leather suit. Electra wears RED!!!

My anticipation for this movie just went down a notch.

James Harvey
06-04-2002, 01:13 PM
Elektra is supposed to be getting a black version of her current red suit soon, sometimes. There's artwork of her in her Black suit somewhere on line, likely at www.manwithoutfear.com

Salvor
06-04-2002, 03:05 PM
This is NOT good. Elektra=red, not black. "Red might have looked a little out of place for an assasin..." Why?? Red is a symbol of blood, so it perfectly suits an assassin. grr I had high hopes for this movie, but this isn't promising AT ALL.

I look at this picture and I think: who is this ordinary girl? Certainly not the assassin that's beguiled me for years... ugh this is reminiscent of Joel Schumacher's B&R suits.

Nightflower
06-04-2002, 03:12 PM
Like most of everyone, I think it looks okay but the red would look better.

The "she wears black because she's an assassin" rationale would make more sense if it covered more, and less of her non-black flesh was exposed... ;)

The Guard
06-04-2002, 03:17 PM
This is NOT good. Elektra=red, not black. "Red might have looked a little out of place for an assasin..." Why?? Red is a symbol of blood, so it perfectly suits an assassin.

No it doesn't. Assassins (The kind Elektra is) have to blend in sometimes. You can't do that with bright red.

this is reminiscent of Joel Schumacher's B&R suits.

It doesn't look a thing like those suits. It looks like a comic book suit that's been adapted to look semi-real. And they were Ingrid Ferrin's. Not Joel Schumacher's. The nipples I think were Jon Peterson's idea.

TheHuntressDiana
06-04-2002, 04:28 PM
From the Greg Horn Judge web site:


Elektra #5 This was the second illustration I did after Marvel had mentioned needing a black outfit for merchandising purposes. I decided to try her normal outfit in black instead of a full body leather type of deal.

http://www.greghornjudge.com/images/Large/Big_elektra_5.jpg

Nightflower
06-04-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by The Guard
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No it doesn't. Assassins (The kind Elektra is) have to blend in sometimes. You can't do that with bright red.


Even if the black did help her blend in, she's still leaving a lot of her flesh exposed. Or do people scream "AHHH! There's disembodied arms, upper-boobs and torso coming towards me!" when she attacks? :p

The Guard
06-04-2002, 06:47 PM
I'll bet that it had something to do with the amount of skin exposed. Not many actresses would wear what Elektra does. If I'd designed it, she wouldn't have shown as much skin as she is. She'd wear a full-body black jumpsuit, with the long hair, and of course the sais. It's much more realistic. Right now she looks straight out of XENA.

James
06-04-2002, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by The Guard
I'll bet that it had something to do with the amount of skin exposed. Not many actresses would wear what Elektra does. If I'd designed it, she wouldn't have shown as much skin as she is. She'd wear a full-body black jumpsuit, with the long hair, and of course the sais. It's much more realistic. Right now she looks straight out of XENA.

I think that's the proverbial nail on the head. She looks like she comes from Xena - that's why she looks so ordinary! Certainly not very memorable. I think the red would have made her more distinctive. Plus it reminds me of the 80's and 90's attempts at superheroes where they would 'tone' the costume down for TV. In the end it was nothing that could be really identified with the comic - something I think the execs prefered. Daredevil in The Trial Of The Incrediable Hulk, Thor in The Return Of The Incrediable Hulk, The Punisher... suffered from costume tone down. Not a good start IMO...

randomguy
06-04-2002, 10:58 PM
Oh please. The color isn't that big a deal. If you consider the integrity of the film dropped a notch by this, you're being a little dramatic.

And yeah, the costume isn't exactly realistic for an assassin, but this is a HOLLYWOOD movie, people! It's a traditional Hollywood tactic- you book a hot actress, you have her show some skin in her outfit. It's logical thinking. And it's not like the comic book medium has the most logical approach to reality either.

Besides, the main point is, it's Jennifer Garner. She's hot. She's showing skin. How can you complain?

Salvor
06-05-2002, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by The Guard
This is NOT good. Elektra=red, not black. "Red might have looked a little out of place for an assasin..." Why?? Red is a symbol of blood, so it perfectly suits an assassin.

No it doesn't. Assassins (The kind Elektra is) have to blend in sometimes. You can't do that with bright red.
Then how do you explain Elektra's having worn a red suit for years? And if I'm hearing you correctly, a red suit for a superhero should be quite "flashy" as well.

And randomguy, to my mind, it takes more than a "hot" actress "showing skin" to make a character appealing and interesting.

James
06-05-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by randomguy
Oh please. The color isn't that big a deal. If you consider the integrity of the film dropped a notch by this, you're being a little dramatic.

And yeah, the costume isn't exactly realistic for an assassin, but this is a HOLLYWOOD movie, people! It's a traditional Hollywood tactic- you book a hot actress, you have her show some skin in her outfit. It's logical thinking. And it's not like the comic book medium has the most logical approach to reality either.

Besides, the main point is, it's Jennifer Garner. She's hot. She's showing skin. How can you complain?

I think that the outfit is indicitive of the Studio's faithfullness to the source material. This seems a little over cautious - as if they don't have the confidence in the character that they are transfering. Not a big thing in itself, but it doesn't bode well IMO - I may be wrong and you may be right. Still, I see it as a concern.

And without being rude, if you can't see beyond the 'skin' of the actress, I don't think you should be the one to scoff at those who can. I want to see a good film. I can see 'skin' down my local nightclub on Friday nights. A decent story is harder to come by these days.

The Guard
06-05-2002, 08:29 AM
Then how do you explain Elektra's having worn a red suit for years? And if I'm hearing you correctly, a red suit for a superhero should be quite "flashy" as well.

Things that work on the printed page don't always work in real life. Take Wolverine's yellow costume for example. It would just look stupid in real life (And, in the comics, they seem to have realized that).

Salvor
06-05-2002, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by The Guard
Then how do you explain Elektra's having worn a red suit for years? And if I'm hearing you correctly, a red suit for a superhero should be quite "flashy" as well.

Things that work on the printed page don't always work in real life.
It seems to work for Daredevil though (all bright red, yet realistic and kind of spooky from what we've seen sofar). So why not for Elektra?

Joe Wagner
06-05-2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Salvor

It seems to work for Daredevil though (all bright red, yet realistic and kind of spooky from what we've seen sofar). So why not for Elektra?

Even DD's costume has been darkened though - it's not a bright red that the comic has featured for years. Just like with X-Men the crew decided that Elektra would look better in black than red. While we all would have liked to see the red I don't think it would have looked correct in the film. Could you imagine Jennifer Garner attacking DD in a bright red leather outfit? I think the crowd would laugh at the scene because it would look cheesy. Also, just because that's the first shot we've seen doesn't mean we won't learn some of her origin in the film - as an assassin you would think that black (and even skin colored) outfits would hide her better than a red suit and maybe this will be touched on in the film.

-Joe!

The Guard
06-05-2002, 09:42 AM
Daredevil's costume has indeed been darkened. Like Jennnifer Garner said: Daredevil chose this life. Elektra just kind of fell into it. She just adapts her clothing or something. Even Bullseye won't have a costume.

James
06-05-2002, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by jjwspider


Even DD's costume has been darkened though - it's not a bright red that the comic has featured for years. Just like with X-Men the crew decided that Elektra would look better in black than red. While we all would have liked to see the red I don't think it would have looked correct in the film. Could you imagine Jennifer Garner attacking DD in a bright red leather outfit? I think the crowd would laugh at the scene because it would look cheesy. Also, just because that's the first shot we've seen doesn't mean we won't learn some of her origin in the film - as an assassin you would think that black (and even skin colored) outfits would hide her better than a red suit and maybe this will be touched on in the film.

-Joe!

Well I wouldn't say that a bright red had to be the only option. A dark red could have offered some realism and at the same time paid respects to the character.

As for the comparisons with Wolverine - I don't think the costume is an issue. Indeed it looked good, and I agree the yellow spandex may have affected the tone of the movie, however I never felt as if that this represented a lack of faith in the character. I do feel there might be a bit of this with Elektra.

The confidence in Wolverine to me is validated by his hair!They did not cop out on his hairstyle - now that was something that I thought (and I imagine many Black suit would have agreed) would never work. It did.

My point? I think they could have kept Elektra closer to her comic icon - I think with so many females in movies being both in leather and showing 'skin' that they needed to somehow make her stand out above the rest. A darker red hue at least would have been a closer tie to the original material and a sign of confidence in the character. With such close character renditions in 'rival' projects as X-Men and Spider-man, I think they'll find such strong ties to the comics become more of an expectation from the fan audience.

Ed Liu
06-05-2002, 10:27 AM
Howdy,

I remember reading at some point in my youth that ninjas would often wear black, dark blue, gray, or red suits for nighttime ops. The explanation I heard at the time was that red visibility is the first one the human eye will lose in low-light conditions, so a red suit will look gray at nighttime anyway. I don't know that I believe this explanation, but it's some kind of justification for a red suit.

I'm skeptical about the whole Daredevil movie from the get go, so Elektra's costume doesn't move me much either way (other than the usual "hubba hubba" ways, of course =8^). Elektra's suit in the comics is a pretty ludicrous thing for an assassin to wear.

-- Ed/Ace

Joe Wagner
06-05-2002, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by SJJ


Well I wouldn't say that a bright red had to be the only option. A dark red could have offered some realism and at the same time paid respects to the character.

As for the comparisons with Wolverine - I don't think the costume is an issue. Indeed it looked good, and I agree the yellow spandex may have affected the tone of the movie, however I never felt as if that this represented a lack of faith in the character. I do feel there might be a bit of this with Elektra.

The confidence in Wolverine to me is validated by his hair!They did not cop out on his hairstyle - now that was something that I thought (and I imagine many Black suit would have agreed) would never work. It did.

My point? I think they could have kept Elektra closer to her comic icon - I think with so many females in movies being both in leather and showing 'skin' that they needed to somehow make her stand out above the rest. A darker red hue at least would have been a closer tie to the original material and a sign of confidence in the character. With such close character renditions in 'rival' projects as X-Men and Spider-man, I think they'll find such strong ties to the comics become more of an expectation from the fan audience.

True - it has been beneficial for the movie creators to follow the comics but at the same time the new X-Men costumes changed the X-Men quite a bit and has now become a staple for the most of the X-Teams esp New X-Men and Ultimate X-Men.

I think the reason the crew decided to go with the black over the darker hued red is because they want a contrast with DD. If Elektra wore a similair costume then some people in the audience are going to be confused while others will claim that they were being unoriginal. Not only that but the darker costume will probably provide more of a contrast for the battle scenes and make it easier to pick out which character is which.

Even with Spider-Man their were similair changes - primarily with the Green Goblin wearing a hardened mask instead of one where his mask moves with his face. X-men also saw a re-design of Sabretooth, Toad and Mystique so a lot of the Marvel movies have seen character changes but have retained the core of the characters.

As long as the character of Elektra remains true to the comics I'll be very happy with the decision.

-Joe!

randomguy
06-05-2002, 11:58 AM
And without being rude, if you can't see beyond the 'skin' of the actress, I don't think you should be the one to scoff at those who can. I want to see a good film. I can see 'skin' down my local nightclub on Friday nights. A decent story is harder to come by these days.

Yes, I defintely see your motivation there. I'm actually more of an indie film fan (belive it or not), so I can see well beyond the skin. I simply am aware of the fact that this is a Hollywood movie and, therefore, you can't really be surprised. And besides, it's just a costume, an exterior element, she can still be an interesting and likeable character nonetheless. And, if nothing else, Elektra shows a lot of skin in the comics so it's faithful in that regard... and you have to recognize that comics themselves can be pretty shallow like that too.

James
06-05-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by randomguy


Yes, I defintely see your motivation there. I'm actually more of an indie film fan (belive it or not), so I can see well beyond the skin.


I can believe that :) - I just don't think what you said and the way you said it did you any justice.



I simply am aware of the fact that this is a Hollywood movie and, therefore, you can't really be surprised.


I'm not surprised - just disappointed. I expect more and I feel this was something they could have done better.



And besides, it's just a costume, an exterior element, she can still be an interesting and likeable character nonetheless. And, if nothing else, Elektra shows a lot of skin in the comics so it's faithful in that regard... and you have to recognize that comics themselves can be pretty shallow like that too.

Comics are often very shallow I agree. Especially under certain artists. Likewise, if they did a dumb adaption of the film 'It's A Wonderful Life' which didn't pay attention to the material, I'd be on my high horse!

I just think more could have been done to make her a little more memorable. Jjw had a point which I was going to mention (however it would have deconstructed my entire rant ;) ) and that was to seperate her from Daredevil.

Well I'm going to hangfire now. I'd don't want to overkill on a merely hypothetical point. My concern is actually less to do with Elektra, but more that I feel that there should be stronger attempts to make her character in herself where at the moment, as you say, she looks like a 'Hollywood ninja'. The best way to have made her look distintive would be to follow the design. Would it look wrong or silly with her in a brighter shade of red? Like how The Flash and the Fantastic Four looked stupid in their accurate costumes in their adaptions? Well, IMO, a good director and crew can make anything look good... ;)

I now agree with Randomguy - as from this post, I'm getting way too indepth over an adaption i've not seen... still it's food for thought!

The Guard
06-05-2002, 04:12 PM
Comics are often very shallow I agree.

Stop right there. Shallow? The comic ART is often shallow, with the large-breasted women and whatnot, but comics, no. There are few shallow, one-dimensional titles or stories out there.

James
06-05-2002, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by The Guard
Comics are often very shallow I agree.

Stop right there. Shallow? The comic ART is often shallow, with the large-breasted women and whatnot, but comics, no. There are few shallow, one-dimensional titles or stories out there.

Yes. My mistake - I didn't make myself clear. I have seen some shallow comics (on the Marvel side, I've seen spouts of very poor offerings - especially in the X-Men titles, but they seemed to have moved on), but I agree it is the art which can make comics 'skin' material (sorry Randomguy, I seem to have got into a habit of using that expression!). Comics have offered some of the most intelligent material I've ever read and some of the most amazing artwork I've ever seen. But I think that in some respects, for selling copies of mags, comics can be very shallow and yes, that is more art than story.

The Guard
06-05-2002, 07:02 PM
(Best Homer Simpson impression)

Problem solved.

randomguy
06-06-2002, 12:03 AM
Yes. My mistake - I didn't make myself clear. I have seen some shallow comics (on the Marvel side, I've seen spouts of very poor offerings - especially in the X-Men titles, but they seemed to have moved on), but I agree it is the art which can make comics 'skin' material (sorry Randomguy, I seem to have got into a habit of using that expression!).

It's cool :D I don't think comics themselves are a shallow medium (it's impossible for a medium itself to be shallow after all, it's what comes out of it, you can't call comics inherently shallow any more than you can call movies, music, or literature shallow), but that a lot of the mass-market, mainstream comics that are well-known are. Like you said, a lot of the Marvel stuff. I feel like, comics can be an incredible tool for storytelling, but we're talking about Daredevil here, not Maus, Watchmen, Safe Area Gonzarde, or Ghost World (which, of course, got an absolutely awesome film adaptation). I guess I'm saying that if you're adapting a mass market comic you're already, likely, not dealing with the most deep and philosophical of works.

But hey, Daredevil: The Movie, prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

James
06-06-2002, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by randomguy


But hey, Daredevil: The Movie, prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

Here here. That is what it boils down to in the end!

Joe Wagner
06-06-2002, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by SJJ


Here here. That is what it boils down to in the end!

Agreed - it's all about the story that's presented that makes or breaks a film. Look at Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - great animation but a not so great story. The final results - it bankrupted the company.

-Joe!

Manhunter
06-06-2002, 04:26 PM
http://www.comics2film.com/images/Daredevil/Elektra.jpg

OUCH!