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[Inkspot]

Why do they show Bob Clampett cartoons uncut but not Tex Avery?

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by Inkspot
Why do they show Bob Clampett cartoons uncut but not Tex Avery?

Maybe they simply show whatever prints they have - how big of a budget do they have to acquire additional LT/MM prints?

[Inkspot]

So they don't have Tex Avery prints uncut, i thought they have the rights to MGM cartoons:confused:

[Jack]

They do have some prints uncut, CN USED to air "Magical Maestro" uncut just a few years ago, and on Tex Avery, I believe.

CN does choose to censor some cartoons itself, unfortunately.


Jack:D

[BobChief]

...I'll say it again: The Clampett show was/is a venture between CN and Clampett's
family (who are online at www.BobClampett.com) which featured interesting
stuff from the family's collection, including of course the Beany & Cecil shorts.

The credits for nearly every episode thank Clampett's widow Sody, his son Rob, our
perennial friend Jerry Beck, and Milt Gray, one of the animators of the groundbreaking
1972 comedy "Fritz the Cat", who like Jerry has written extensively about animation
history.

It has always been my contention -- and whether Rob, Sody, or anyone else has ever
verified this I have no idea -- that this whole thing was a "take it or leave it" deal on
the part of the family -- that is, "unless we're allowed to use the uncut versions of
Bob's Warner material if viable copies are available, you won't be able to also use the
Beanys and interstitial material."

You guys know better than I do if this was in fact true of all the first season's episodes.

And again, as for the Tex show, Avery's family obviously have no desire to be involved
in preserving his legacy, else we would have heard something to that effect long ago.

[Jon Cooke]

You should also thank the Clampett show's producer, Barry Mills, who fought to have only unedited cartoons shown on the show. I wrote to Mr. Mills awhile back asking how he ever got away with showing all those uncut cartoons. Here was his reply:

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As you might guess the hardest part of doing that show is talking programming into airing (and on occasion finding decent prints) of the uncut cartoons. When I first started working on the Clampett Show the airtime was to be an hour or so later (than the original 9pm/et) so about the only thing said to me was, "no, you can't air Coal Black." Of course a few other titles would've fallen into that catagory like "Tin Pan Alley Cats" (which I never even obtained a print from WB). The line-up of the first 13 was actually a cross between the first and second 13. A couple of weeks before I went into production, I was in a meeting with a list of what I called "problem area" cartoons (ie Tortoise Wins, Russian Rhapsody, Bacall, you know suicide gags, stereotypes etc.) and out of the blue it was a flat, "this show is airing at 9, you can't show any of these uncut!" Stunned I went back and reprogrammed!

I believe the only cartoons in the original line-up that never made it at all were Booby Traps, Hare Ribbin' (Director's Cut) and It's a Grand Old Nag (nag was not a censorship issue). When the show got on the air and the ratings were good and I didn't have many replacement titles for the second season, I maintained my "Clampett Show cartoons should not be edited" stance (having only the show's ratings to barter) they allowed many of the cut titles to run and a few extra b&w's.
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-Jon

[PlopKat]

BobChief wrote:
And again, as for the Tex show, Avery's family obviously have no desire to be involved
in preserving his legacy, else we would have heard something to that effect long ago.


Too bad Avery's daughter put her support behind that unfortunate Wacky World of Tex Avery from DIC instead of pushing for an uncensored format for her father's classics on Cartoon Network.

-PlopKat