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Mecha Washu
06-01-2002, 01:48 AM
No Adult Swim. Instead of Yu Yu and Cowboy bebop we're all getting treated to the june bug's marathon :rolleyes: . Can't Cartoon Network give up these stupid specials no one cares about? honestly the whole "Bug's bunny is old school" fad is beyond the point of being sad. *HINT* if cartoon network actully cares about bringing in the ratings they shouldn't put cartoons which people were fed up with 15 years ago in one of CN's most popular time slot.
Lindsay
06-01-2002, 02:44 AM
Wow really?
Is anyone even going to watch June Bugs? I'm sure not. It's like the same thing every year. ::sigh::
Guess that means more time to play Resident Evil. Or to be more accurate, more time to be scared as hell and advance maybe one room in two hours x.x
bassist
06-01-2002, 03:04 AM
How come June Bugs always happens between May and July? Couldn't they save it for October, when I've got baseball to be watching?
-Big Ben
Rabbiterose
06-01-2002, 09:06 AM
:dot:
Because then they lose the cute pun of June Bugs if it was called October Bugs. :p
And if people don't care for June Bugs then how come it is usually the highest rated Marathon Special? I mean a lot of people millions the world over love Bugs Bunny.
VinceA
06-01-2002, 09:31 AM
Also some of the people likely to tune into June Bugs (adults looking to see some of the toons of their youth) might find out about CN's other offerings. That's if CN decides to advertise the Adult Swim blocks during the evening portions of June Bugs.
SpaceCowboy
06-01-2002, 09:53 AM
It would be interesting if CN decided to air those "9 banned Bugs Bunny cartoons" on the Adult Swim Sunday block as part of the JB Marathon. These cartoons I'm talking about are the ones that CN banned from the network and used to air during the Marathon up until last year, when they started getting complaints from ethnic groups. Cartoons such as "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips", when he screws around with Japanese war soldiers. It would make sense to air the banned cartoons on Adult Swim with disclaimers.
Sir Gatts
06-01-2002, 10:29 AM
I guess I'll have to dig something out of my anime collection to watch then. They could have at least aired AS around midnight.
Killtacular
06-01-2002, 11:05 AM
June Bugs is run alphabetically, and ends BEFORE Adult Swim Comedy, so you won't see any banned cartoons.
OR WILL YOU?! *lightning crash*
Jimmy Kustes
06-01-2002, 11:16 AM
If CN were to run the banned cartoons, I think they would market them as a big event, instead of hiding them in the middle of the night. Something like "Bugs Bunny RAW carrots'' instead of Bugs Bunny A-Z.
And if it weren't for June Bugs 2001, I wouldn't have figured out that Space Ghost Coast to Coast had moved to midnights on Sundays. I thought they got rid of it, and it said June Bugs followed by SGC2C, so I watch SGC2C. And then I found out another great cartoon I thought had left, O Canada, had moved to 12:30.
Spike Mcdougal
06-01-2002, 11:45 AM
The reason they air it in June is because his birthday is in June or so i've heard
JTurner954
06-01-2002, 11:48 AM
So is this the only time that CN celebrates Bugs?? I mean, if it's June Bugs, it sounds like they would do more than have a two day marathon.
Lindsay
06-01-2002, 12:17 PM
What does June Bugs mean anyway?
hydrokarst
06-01-2002, 12:49 PM
the month of JUNE and BUGS bunny combine for a hilarious pun because a june bug is also a type of bug
Memphis Bleek
06-01-2002, 12:51 PM
Now I won't have flip back and forth between ASA and WWF Confidential. I will be able to see the Shawn Michaels interview in it entirely.
Joe Tully
06-01-2002, 12:58 PM
Junebugs are a kind of bug.
If there's any rare Bugs Bunny toons to be seen, they'll be aired late tonight, out-of-order. Last year they snuck in a couple of blackface gags at about 3 AM.
A big event for the banned toons is the last thing that CN wants. If they air the unPC toons at all, they'll be in the middle of the night, when few people are watching and there's less chance of them getting sued.
The folks at the TTTP board haven't been so happy lately about the LTs getting shoved off of CN for newer programming (such as AS) so I don't think it's a big deal to give up a weekend to Bugs. I'll be watching a lot of the marathon myself.
Ikwig
06-01-2002, 02:42 PM
Actually, didn't they show at least parts of the banned cartoons (they were certainly showing some un-pc stuff anyway) on that show last Sunday (pre-AS) about wartime cartoons.
(Of course, I can't give anything so helpful as the name of the show, because I've forgotten it and I'm in too much of a rush to look it up, but it's a regular show about the history of cartoons that airs on Sunday nights and usually features old Warner Brothers, Popeye, etc., etc.)
Personally, I would rather be watching ASA than more Bugs Bunny. (I feel he's a bit overused at this point, kinda like Dexter's Laboratory.) But I understand that some people will always love him, and I'm willing to give up one weekend for their sakes! :)
Jimmy Kustes
06-01-2002, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Ikwig
Personally, I would rather be watching ASA than more Bugs Bunny. (I feel he's a bit overused at this point, kinda like Dexter's Laboratory.) But I understand that some people will always love him, and I'm willing to give up one weekend for their sakes! :)
Bugs Bunny is not overused. BUT Bugs is pre-empting two cartoons that get little exposure: Batman and Superman. It's like Cartoon Network is ashamed to have the rights to them! If I were CN I would have Bruce Timm special event weekend leading up to some new episodes of Justice League or something. It might actually get some good ratings like the June Bugs or Cartoon Cartoon Weekend.
AgentMaxX
06-01-2002, 05:39 PM
A hate june bugs. its a waste of time IMO. and if it replaces ASA for a day, that makes it even worse, cuz the ratings compared to last saturday to this saturday will show that their little marathon isnt a popular as they believe.
ohmrbill
06-01-2002, 06:03 PM
Come on, guys, it's just once a year. It's not really that big of a deal. Use this time to get some extra sleep or something.
Rabbiterose
06-01-2002, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by AgentMaxX
A hate june bugs. its a waste of time IMO. and if it replaces ASA for a day, that makes it even worse, cuz the ratings compared to last saturday to this saturday will show that their little marathon isnt a popular as they believe.
:dot:
I really doubt that since there seem to be more fans of Bugs Bunny than the anime(even Cowboy Bebop) shown on ASA.
Shoot, they even shortened June Bugs this year. Now it's only a 24 hr thing instead of a all week event.
Besides Bugs Bunny was a wise-arse way before Yusuke and Spike. :p
Dark Spider
06-01-2002, 09:33 PM
Lighten up you guys. June Bugs is once a year, so what if it pre-empts Adult Swim for a week. The extra week will only sweeten Mobile Suit Gundam's premiere on ASA and we always want sweet premieres. :)
Oh, and I want to see a cartoon that uses a blackface gag. Even though its a racial slap in the face to blacks, it intrigues me. :wakko:
Nitrowax
06-01-2002, 09:39 PM
for one bugs bunny is a cross dresser. of corse you all know that he dresses up as different things and acts cony like. second hes on to much morphine and doesn't know what the hell he's doing. and third i wanna sue june bugs cause it bores me to death!
gtracer72
06-01-2002, 10:19 PM
I feel that June Bugs is alright, as long as they show AS at the proper time. After AS is over, they can go back and start showing the boring bugs bunny. :) If you don't like it, then don't watch it, that is what I'm doing.
SirLemming
06-01-2002, 10:20 PM
LOL Memphis Bleek, that's EXACTLY the "dilemma" I had to deal with last week (the WWF Confidential thing).
I'm wondering why they can't just have the marathon during the week instead of on the weekend, where it interrupts new Cartoon Network programming. And in the middle of a CB 2-parter, to boot! If I hadn't seen it before, I'd be peeved!
zmanjz
06-01-2002, 10:50 PM
I wouldn't have minded if it cut short ASC but I've missed two weeks of Yu Yu and I finally have a Saturday off and NOW I WANT TO BREAK SOMETHING....
<CRASH>
The Drizzle
06-01-2002, 11:36 PM
I would have no problem with June Bugs on for one day instead of ASA. That is, if I hadn't seen these exact same cartoons earlier today. The least they could do is show some different ones. I would still be watching now.
Don't cry that you're missing Yu Yu Hakusho or anything because episodes won't be skipped. You'll be ok.
This is not the end of the world.
Bugs Bunny is funny.
And yes, Bugs is a crossdresser. I'm sure he's happy about it too.
JTurner954
06-01-2002, 11:57 PM
It looks like last week is the last week I will be able to watch the first hour of ASA because I am starting a job. I would record it, but I record WWE Confidential instead.
BlueAngelGal
06-02-2002, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Mecha Washu
No Adult Swim. Instead of Yu Yu and Cowboy bebop we're all getting treated to the june bug's marathon :rolleyes: . Can't Cartoon Network give up these stupid specials no one cares about? honestly the whole "Bug's bunny is old school" fad is beyond the point of being sad. *HINT* if cartoon network actully cares about bringing in the ratings they shouldn't put cartoons which people were fed up with 15 years ago in one of CN's most popular time slot.
See, that's your opinion. To a lot of us, Looney Tunes are classic animation that we can never tire of, and which CN doesn't play nearly enough of. CN would much rather play endless blocks of CCF reruns and lousy Toonami stuff (okay, the "lousy" is opinion, but the rest is fact). We're not "fed up" with LT/MM -- we don't get enough as it is, if you look at CN's daily schedule.
In any case, suck it up, 'cause June Bugs is a special once-a-year event...your precious ASA will be back next week. :bosko:
Originally posted by Dark Spider
Oh, and I want to see a cartoon that uses a blackface gag. Even though its a racial slap in the face to blacks, it intrigues me. :wakko:
Yea, I suppose you're a bit young to remember such toons being on the air. Really, I only noticed channels dropping such bits in the past decade or so... I remember seing them right up to the early 90's.
There's not much to see though. Most of them are Tom & Jerry bits where one's face gets caught in an explosion or covered by a puff of soot.
One example from June Bugs though... there's one cartoon where Fat Elmer has Bugs up in front of a firing squad and asks if he has a last request. Bugs starts into a bar of Dixieland, and that's where Cartoon Network ends it. However, in the original, it cuts to a scene of a southern plantation with Bugs, Elmer and the whole firing squad in blackface singing another bar of the song for the end of the toon.
That's the only one I recall off the top of my head though. I'm seeing a lot more cuts for violence (especially joke suicides).
William C. Maune
06-02-2002, 04:52 AM
[indent]My TV has been tuned to the June Bugs marathon all weekend long. I can do without Adult Swim Action for a weekend to honor one of the most influential cartoon characters ever once a year.
Sheamon
06-02-2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by JTurner954
It looks like last week is the last week I will be able to watch the first hour of ASA because I am starting a job. I would record it, but I record WWE Confidential instead.
Ah c'mon, you'd rather watch dull WWF stuff than (IMHO) the second best anime ever made? Especially at this point in the series... as a WWF fan I can tell you that you're not missing much. I missed Smackdown every week for 4 months because I had Thursday night classes this semester and I didn't fall too far behind. Atleast check out the second part of Jupiter Jazz :(
JTurner954
06-02-2002, 10:34 AM
The thing is I know a place where I can rent Cwoboy Bebop DVD's so I'm ok with missing it. As for Yu Yu Hakusho, there are no DVD's of it are there?
You may call WWE dull, but I do not. I watch it every week, regardless of "weak" storylines. I accept what they do.
randomguy
06-02-2002, 12:48 PM
Ah c'mon, you'd rather watch dull WWF stuff than (IMHO) the second best anime ever made?
I assume you're talking about CB. What's the greatest anime ever made?
DarkMaster
06-02-2002, 01:06 PM
June Bugs is a constant highly rated special people watch it. That's why it almost always airs. Toonzone's looked at the ratings before. :cool:
John Miles
06-02-2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Mecha Washu
No Adult Swim. Instead of Yu Yu and Cowboy bebop we're all getting treated to the june bug's marathon :rolleyes: . Can't Cartoon Network give up these stupid specials no one cares about? honestly the whole "Bug's bunny is old school" fad is beyond the point of being sad. *HINT* if cartoon network actully cares about bringing in the ratings they shouldn't put cartoons which people were fed up with 15 years ago in one of CN's most popular time slot.
I would rather see a weekend devoted to one of the greatest cartoon characters of all time (whose cartoons are sorely underplayed) then a few hours of mosty butchered Toonami reject and has-been shows that would all be in reruns at this point anyway. Don't get me wrong, Adult Swim Action was a good idea, but up to this point I think most people who aren't diehard otakus will agree that it could have been pulled off much better.
Besides, you'd be suprised how much ground hasn't been covered as far as classic animation is concerned. Cartoon Network very rarley shows black and white cartoons. They won't show Bosko (True, they don't have the rights, but they could obtain them if they cared enough to. I mean, freakin' Nickelodeon showed them for cryin' out loud.). They show compressed and mangled versions of these films, and they censor and ban scores of cartoons in the name of being politically correct (The Speedy debacle is just one example of this). If they would go about it the right way, I think restored cartoons would bring in the ratings with adults as much as anything else. Certainly more than "Adult" Swim Action, anyway.
And I would hardly consider 11:00 Sunday night to be one of Cartoon Network's "most popular time slots." Weekend programming isn't one of Cartoon Network's strong suits anyway (I mean, who really watches Cartoonolio?).
Killtacular
06-02-2002, 01:48 PM
Don't get me wrong, Adult Swim Action was a good idea, but up to this point I think most people who aren't diehard otakus will agree that it could have been pulled off much better.
It's not important how the block begins. It's important of what the block BECOMES. And what it will BECOME is something truly terrific. There WILL be a point where all 6 shows on the block will be AS-editted shows, bringing full respect to the animes and otaku (except for subbing, of course).
Cartoon Network very rarley shows black and white cartoons. They won't show Bosko (True, they don't have the rights, but they could obtain them if they cared enough to. I mean, freakin' Nickelodeon showed them for cryin' out loud.)
That's not CN's decision in the end run. I believe WB doesn't want CN to run the Bosko shorts because Bosko resembles a black person.. something like that. I know that at one point Nickelodeon had to remove Bosko, and it was probably "angry letter" related.
They show compressed and mangled versions of these films, and they censor and ban scores of cartoons in the name of being politically correct (The Speedy debacle is just one example of this). If they would go about it the right way, I think restored cartoons would bring in the ratings with adults as much as anything else. Certainly more than "Adult" Swim Action, anyway.
I don't know about ratings. Looney Tunes gets a lot of ratings, but that's a combined total of all demographics.
And as for the editting of Looney Tunes, you act like CN wants to do that. The fact is, they don't. They're not stupid. WB is making them air these toons the way they are. CN still manages to get away with showing banned toons during marathons and uncut endings from time to time.
If you've ever seen The Popeye Show, you'd know that there HAVE been attempts to restore cartoons to their original glory. You just can't expect it all to happen at once.
And I would hardly consider 11:00 Sunday night to be one of Cartoon Network's "most popular time slots." Weekend programming isn't one of Cartoon Network's strong suits anyway (I mean, who really watches Cartoonolio?).
This is something I agree with. Adult Swim needs to be on weeknights so that more people can catch it. I don't care if it has to overlap CCPrimetime.
The fact is, the 10-3 am advertisements are the same for EVERY night, not just Saturday and Sunday. So advertisements like Green Day's, which were full of profanity, have aired during shows like The Flintstones and Dragonball Z.
The fact that these ads are already there means that there can't be any more harm in putting in shows that would actually fit the ads. I mean, come on. Who still watches Midnight Run?
William C. Maune
06-02-2002, 02:14 PM
[indent]I watch midnight run! It would be cool to also see Adult Swim get more time though once they have the programming.
John Miles
06-02-2002, 02:16 PM
Alrighty, let's break this down...
Originally posted by Matt Wilson
It's not important how the block begins. It's important of what the block BECOMES. And what it will BECOME is something truly terrific. There WILL be a point where all 6 shows on the block will be AS-editted shows, bringing full respect to the animes and otaku (except for subbing, of course).
I'm sure it will become great, but I still think it's absurd that people are complaining about a Bugs Bunny marathon preempting ASA with the state its in now.
That's not CN's decision in the end run. I believe WB doesn't want CN to run the Bosko shorts because Bosko resembles a black person.. something like that. I know that at one point Nickelodeon had to remove Bosko, and it was probably "angry letter" related.
It's not hard to believe that the WB would do something like that, but with the treatment CN gives the black and white cartoons that they do have, I doubt they're fighting the situation.
I don't know about ratings. Looney Tunes gets a lot of ratings, but that's a combined total of all demographics.
And as for the editting of Looney Tunes, you act like CN wants to do that. The fact is, they don't. They're not stupid. WB is making them air these toons the way they are. CN still manages to get away with showing banned toons during marathons and uncut endings from time to time.
I understand the way the WB pressures them, but sometimes I have a hard time believing CN really cares much anyway, espeically with Laurie Goldberg's comments on the Speedy situation. If she is supposed to be a PR person, who supposedly speaks on behalf of the network as a whole, than that isn't a good sign of the network's stance on classic animation.
If you've ever seen The Popeye Show, you'd know that there HAVE been attempts to restore cartoons to their original glory. You just can't expect it all to happen at once.
They've had ten years, and I really can't say it's much better. They've acquired a lot more of the WB library of cartoons, but compared to ten years ago we have much more cartoons that are banned or cut. Are they even fighting the WB on the matter? If not, they should be. If they are, than maybe I am expecting too much.
This is something I agree with. Adult Swim needs to be on weeknights so that more people can catch it. I don't care if it has to overlap CCPrimetime.
The fact is, the 10-3 am advertisements are the same for EVERY night, not just Saturday and Sunday. So advertisements like Green Day's, which were full of profanity, have aired during shows like The Flintstones and Dragonball Z.
The fact that these ads are already there means that there can't be any more harm in putting in shows that would actually fit the ads. I mean, come on. Who still watches Midnight Run?
The Midnight Run doesn't make any sense to me. Toonami's main target audience is below fourteen, right? If they expect that audience to stay up watching that, then what makes them think they won't be watching Adult Swim at the same time on the weekend?
Rhydant
06-02-2002, 02:27 PM
two days of bugs bunny....
*has epilectic stroke*
good things its only got... what, 10 hours left?
Sheamon
06-02-2002, 02:56 PM
Jeez, in my earlier post I completely forgot to mention how I felt about the issue.
...and frankly, I could care less. This is one week people, its not the end of the world. Its not like they're gonna go and skip the episodes that were supposed to air this week. Bugs Bunny is one of the most historic figures in western animation. Adult Swim Action is a block that at this current time is hardly what I would call the pinacle of animation (although I agree with MW that someday it will probably be amazing, assuming of course that they shed this 'shows focused for 12 year olds are adult' thing)
I can say that June Bugs has screwed me over in the past however. 2 years ago I was introduced to Gundam Wing (and Toonami) on the Midnight Run 2 days before the June Bugs marathon, with episode 14 of the show. Due to JB I missed episode 16 of the show since they pre-empted it. Those familiar with Gundam Wing know that episode 16 ends one of the show's major story arcs and they start on a new storyline in episode 17. Naturally, I was confused as hell since JB prevented me from seeing that ep and it took a while before I could figure out anything @_@
I'm willing to forgive June Bugs however. Its a popular thing, otherwise CN wouldn't be doing it every year. Remember, above all else, ITS ONLY FOR ONE WEEK!!!
AgentMaxX
06-02-2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Nitrowax
for one bugs bunny is a cross dresser. of corse you all know that he dresses up as different things and acts cony like. second hes on to much morphine and doesn't know what the hell he's doing. and third i wanna sue june bugs cause it bores me to death!
Lol, thats priceless
czyznyck99
06-02-2002, 04:33 PM
I like Bugs, so I don't mind a marathon once a year.
I went to sleep after WWE Confidential, three hours earlier than usual, because of Batman/Superman. It felt good.
Adult Swim needed a break anyway. It will get better, and hopefully 18 years old can finally start watching, as opposed to the 13-15 year old level now.
And don't worry about CN. They know WB, they will work out the whole editing issue eventually. Hey, they are on our side, or we would not be seeing cartoons at all.
Later, heroes.
Cinder
06-02-2002, 07:59 PM
*GASP!* "No one cares about Bugs Bunny" Wut the hell?! NO!!!!!!! BUGs BUNNY IN THE MASTER! THE ORIGINAL....but yea...I dun watch it either....already seen um all! hehehehe! Muhahahahahahahahaha!
SirLemming
06-02-2002, 09:53 PM
WWE Confidential is extremely interesting. See, it's not actually a wrestling show. It's all behind-the-scenes stuff. I assume a wrestling fan would be the most interested in it, but... there is a difference.
This weekend they documented the end of Shawn Michaels' career and the events leading to the British Bulldog's recent death, which were quite interesting.
As for June Bugs, the classic Looney Tunes shorts are pretty much fantastic. I'm not gonna argue against that at all. I may resent CN's timing here, but not the content.
JTurner954
06-02-2002, 10:10 PM
See, Adult Swim shows will repeat, but not WWE Confidential.
BTW, I would like to mention that I would to love Adult Swim to come back to weeknights (or just one night during the week like it used to be) so I don't have to wait for months in order to see repeats.
Rhydant
06-02-2002, 11:07 PM
Confidential may not repeat, but have you seen the Tough Enough show on MTV?
the stupid execs are MTV showed the series (except for the finale) 4 times during the course of one week. its nuts.
i dont get how they can show the SAME programs OVER and OVER again. i must of seen the same episode of road rules/real world challenge 10 times in the last month.
i watch too much teevee.
JTurner954
06-03-2002, 12:57 AM
I always recorded Tough Enough on Thursdays and now that it is over, I'm fine with it.
Back to topic: Is everyone ok now that June Bugs is over??
bassist
06-03-2002, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by JTurner954
Is everyone ok now that June Bugs is over??
No... I'm scarred for life... and that's the 3rd year in a row I've been scarred for life... Then again, if I save $3,000, I can get laser surgery and get all these weird Bugs Bunny tatoos removed which I got because of the evil hypnotic suggestions hidden the June Bugs Marathon... or not...
-Big Ben
John Miles
06-03-2002, 09:48 AM
Bugs Bunny is the shiznit. Y'all are all just haters.
ButteredToast
06-03-2002, 11:57 AM
I don't really mind the June Bugs marathon, but I was hurting for a Yu Yu fix this week. I'll have the shakes and cold flashes before this Saturday gets here...
:p
Dumb wabbit. Now I have to wait to next week to see the new Yu Yu. At least MSG finally debuts.
Neohunter
06-04-2002, 03:42 PM
I personally prefer adult swim on Saturdays, because it's probably the only day I can catch it, without worrying about being tired the next day.
Sure, it'd be nice, BUT the episodes would go a bit TOO fast and you'd probably miss something. Plus, aren't the anime's on AS worth waiting a week?
Meson
06-04-2002, 06:46 PM
There is nothing wrong with Bugs. He is quite funny at times. This is classic toonage, which is why you guys hate it. I watch some of the marathon when I could.
Anyway for the record, IIRC the June Bugs event only occurs durring the week June 1, Bugs' birthday, falls in. This year June 1 was Friday, and so the marathon began then.
PieEyedDragon
06-06-2002, 01:42 PM
...and, according to this board, Yu Yu starts reruns on July 27.
About 18 months ago, CN snuck-in advance airings of "Harvey Birdman, Attourney-at-Law" in that 3 AM slot over a few days. The schedule listed it as "Special Programming". That's when I first saw the "Bannon Custody Case".
Spike04
06-06-2002, 01:48 PM
Damn are they really not showing ASA all June long...that sucks I look forewords to Saturday nights all damn week long.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
The Drizzle
06-06-2002, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Gantela
Damn are they really not showing ASA all June long...that sucks I look forewords to Saturday nights all damn week long.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I beleive it was just for last week.
Neohunter
06-07-2002, 03:15 PM
Good.
One day full of Bugs is enough for me.
::sigh:: Well at least I'll be able to get the holes in my Yu Yu Hakusho tape filled up when they re-run them all.
Honestly, are they trying to make YYH the next DBZ? I mean, why only dub a handful at a time when they have SO many they need to show...
Hopefully, the first batch was just a test run to see if the series was going to play out, and now that its popularity has been proven, let's pray that there will be VERY few breaks in the YYH run, unlike the pitful monstrosity that is the DBZ schedule.
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