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dark knight acolyte
06-01-2002, 01:50 AM
Which death scene about do you think was the "best"? Obviously, death is no scoffing matter and probably should not be viewed in terms of which is "better" or "best." However, which one most moved you of the ones listed, or was your favorite, or was just the best written? What do you think?

TimTwoFace
06-01-2002, 02:05 AM
Hmmm...of all the death scenes I can think of from Batman stories (be they movies, cartoons, or comics), I'd probably vote for the Joker's death scene in THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. Really, is there anything more chilling than that?

There are some other memorable scenes, though, such as:

-Sarah Essen in NO MAN'S LAND
-Two-Face's slaying of Batman's supporters during NO MAN'S LAND
- Pretty much anything out of either THE LONG HALLOWEEN or DARK VICTORY
- The Joker in flashback in RETURN OF THE JOKER

Uhhhh...I know there are more I'd add to the list if we could have more than 10 options. That said, I'll go with OTHER. :)

-Tim

TimTwoFace
06-01-2002, 02:06 AM
Oh yeah! You can't forget the Flying Graysons' death scene! (Or, the "Fallen Graysons", depending on how you look at it.)

Oops...I guess you did put the ROTJ one in there after all. My bad. :o

-Tim

Mattashell
06-01-2002, 02:34 AM
And the Vesper Fairchild death scene.

Good Ol' Batmanuel!
06-01-2002, 11:32 AM
Spock's death scene is the best! Ha! :D

How about the "death" of the robot duplicate of Batman from "His Silicon Soul"? That was an interesting scene.

oranthal
06-01-2002, 02:48 PM
i liked the "non-death" scene in ROTJ when that satellite beam was vaporizing the "empty" buildings in gotham.

The Penguin
06-01-2002, 04:26 PM
I decided to cast my vote for Two-Face in Batman Forever. Harvey might not have died if his good side hadn't shown through if only for a moment. The duality of his personality is what cost him in the end.

I get chills everytime as he is slipping away into the waves his coin lands good side up. :eek: Harvey wasn't all bad, but the evil side is what caused his ultimate undoing.

Sandoz
06-01-2002, 07:06 PM
Joker in BB: Return of the Joker. That was perfectly chilling. :D

Barb Gordon
06-01-2002, 10:50 PM
Hmmm, I'd have to go with the one that shocked me the most, and that would be Bab's death scene in OTE. Just how sudden and random it had seemed, totally took me by surprise, and I spent the entire episode not only engrossed in the story but still trying to fathom that fact that she was dead. Then again, that's just in cartoons, in comics, it would have to be Sarah Essen's death, I saw it coming, and boy did it depress me when I realized it had indeed happened. Though, being such a Nighty fan, for the overall death scene that I think best was the fall of the Flying Grayson's. Talk about horror, not only for Dick, but the audience as well, all those women, men and children watching these two performers fall to their deaths, and see this little son of their's watching it, hearing it.....*shudders*, freaks me out.

~Barb

The Dark Knight
06-01-2002, 11:02 PM
Clayface in Mudslide.

I haven't seen it in quite some time, but I still vividly remember the scene (especially the music). It's definitely one of the most emotional moments of the series, if not the most. And after seeing Growing Pains, it's pretty clear to me that Clayface should have stayed dead. (I really hated what they did to him in that episode.)

Doctor Zan
06-02-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by The Dark Knight
Clayface in Mudslide.

I haven't seen it in quite some time, but I still vividly remember the scene (especially the music). It's definitely one of the most emotional moments of the series, if not the most. And after seeing Growing Pains, it's pretty clear to me that Clayface should have stayed dead. (I really hated what they did to him in that episode.)

What did they do to him in that episode?

The Dark Knight
06-02-2002, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Zan
What did they do to him in that episode?They turned into an uncaring monster. Clayface was never just some random bad guy. He had a purpose. He wanted to be Matt Hagan again. But what was he doing in this episode? Trying to kill some clay girl which is actually him but it makes no sense because Clayface doesn't have the power to split himself into two people because last time I checked only Two-Face and the Ventriloquist had the multiple personality disorders. It may have been a defining episode for the new Robin, but it completely destroyed all that Clayface stood for.

TuxedoKamen
06-02-2002, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by The Dark Knight
They turned into an uncaring monster. Clayface was never just some random bad guy. He had a purpose. He wanted to be Matt Hagan again. But what was he doing in this episode? Trying to kill some clay girl which is actually him but it makes no sense because Clayface doesn't have the power to split himself into two people because last time I checked only Two-Face and the Ventriloquist had the multiple personality disorders. It may have been a defining episode for the new Robin, but it completely destroyed all that Clayface stood for.

Yeah. The writing for Clayface and the technical merits of the splitting (given his power--shapeshifting!) were a little off. But it was great writing for the new Robin. And I have to ask.. why didn't they use Robin's comic costume? Solid red and black just seems off for the character. Makes him darker almost, more like Batman. But anyway... Robin's best script, not including ROTJ, which I haven't seen, as I've given up on BB for now. It was nice to see him have an episode all to himself, and the last five minutes were quite good. I honestly didn't know if he was going to fry Clayface or not, despite the Y7 burning brightly at the top of my screen. And his last line was delivered very well by the VA, I might add. Another question, though. Did they change his age in TNBA? Shouldn't he be older? Or is he just some really tiny fifteen year old? :)

TimTwoFace
06-03-2002, 01:10 AM
Apparently on BTAS, Robin is only 13 years old, not 15 as he is in the comics.
-Tim

DisneyBoy
06-03-2002, 09:02 AM
Ummm-hello!?!? CATWOMAN IN BATMAN RETURNS!!!

:D :D :D

That was really the best death scene. Michelle really put everything into her performance. Selina was just wrung out emotionally and psychologically. She loved Bruce and they faced one another, but ultimately, she knew her guilt would never let have a happy ending. So, she gave up on life, got her revenge....but survived, proving her love for Batman won out over her darker side. Really an interesting, thought-provoking death that delves into her character much more than Batigirl's plummet in "Over the Edge" or Penguin's last speech in "Returns".

This wasn't on the list per-say, so I just had to mention it. Two-Face's death in "Forever" was just a pathetic joke...much like the way the movie treated his character. It looked as if the writer just realized "Oh...Two-Face is still alive...ok, let's have him fall. Problem solved" and that was the end of it. What a waste.

Clayface's death in "Mudslide" was the most believable death in the entire B:TAS series, since it made it rather obvious that his body had totally disintegrated. The music really set the tone, and that crying woman just brought it all home. Nice stuff, even though they brought him back for TNBA.

Alexander
06-03-2002, 09:58 PM
I voted Thomas and Martha. It wasn't the best visually, but certainly the one with the biggest impact on the Batman story i would say. Am i right? :D

Terminatah
06-04-2002, 09:03 AM
I still haven't seen the uncut Return of the Joker death scene, but it sounds great. I think the line, "That's not funny," is perfect. But, as I said, I'll have to see it.

Batgirl's death in Over The Edge was also amazing because not only was it totally unexpected, it was presented with surprising intensity. Rather than having her fall off the building, then imply her death by having another character react to the off-screen thud, they cut to Gordon and Bullock in the squad car and then out of nowhere, Batgirl's body slams into the windshield. That's how I plan to go.

-Terminatah

dark knight acolyte
06-04-2002, 11:20 PM
I'm really enjoying hearing all of your opinions. I just want to apologize for not having many of your options on the list. I realize that there are many, and I will admit that I quickly put up the options that I did. However, with SO MANY to choose from and only 10 options.....well, some had to be left out. Sorry again...but its the thought that counts. If you have a different opinion just say so and put some thought in...I love hearing it! After all, while the numbers and votes are fun and interesting, its the thought that counts! :)

Carry on!

dark knight acolyte
06-04-2002, 11:28 PM
I would also like to add that I voted for Joker's death in Batman Beyond. The atmosphere established leading up to the fateful moment (the entire situation in general, the dark/gloomy/run-down Arkham, and the creepy echoes of Harley singing "Mocking Bird"...., etc.). It was just a great foundation that was established by which to carry out the flashback toward its substantial catharsis and outcome. The prelude delivered, as did the execution of the death scene in and of itself. A death like the Joker's is "no laughing matter", per se, when it comes to having to write it, so the writer walks a fine tightrope-like line that could define the entire story and render disappointment if not done to par. However, like I said, it delivered quite well (both cut and uncut)...whether its the Joker's shriek or his final, ironic words of 'That's not funny', I feel it was a well-executed death-scene. And the scenes building up to it delivered also. I get chills every time.

Dark Knight
06-05-2002, 12:33 AM
Hey if this can include Superman Death scenes than How about Dan Turpin? That would totally get my vote. It horrified me and totally caught me off gaurd the first time I saw it. And from that moment on Darkseid was the villain I love to hate!

If not then I'd go for Sarah Essen in No man's land, or Joker in ROTJ.

DerekPowers
06-05-2002, 10:02 PM
i voted for "other', because the "death" scene that got to me the most was in ROTJ when Harley Quinn falls to her "death". (i know she didnt die, but neither did batgirl in over the edge).

that just got an emotional reaction out of me. I remember when i first saw rotj, i was expecting poo to hit the fan, so i sort of saw it coming. but when it actually happened, seeing a very likable character who ive watch since i 1993 fall to her death, and seeing batgirl's semi-sympathetic reation, just really got to me. i thought it was extremely powerful, which is sort of why i was so upset with the "nanna harley" scene at the end. oh well, that was my favorite "death" scene. peace.