What WB cartoon would you most like to see?

[Matt Yorston]

This should be a fun topic.

With over 1,000 WB cartoons made, it's a safe bet that certain people at this board, like myself, have not seen every WB cartoon made. Therefore, I'd like to ask... which WB cartoon that you have not seen but have heard about would you most like to see? Here are my choices...

"Horton Hatches the Egg" (1942) - I've heard a lot of critical prestige toward this film which effectively combines Clampett's cartoon nuttiness and Dr. Seuss's storytelling prose. Looks like there may be some fun gags in this one such as the "Hut Sut Song" running gag. Also, I would like to see for myself the Seuss/Clampett juxtaposition.

"Nutty News" (1942) - This looks like one of the better spot gag cartoons from the 1940's. Gags that I would most like to see (judging from Beck/Friedwald's book): jack-in-the-box Hitler, Hunting Season, Frank Putty's latest painting.

"The Dover Boys" (1942) - I have never seen this cartoon, only snippets of it, but most WB cartoon fans consider it one of the studio's best. The first cartoon to feature "smear" animation (which, allegedly, Chuck Jones received flack from after making the cartoon). The snippets I have seen from it do indeed look funny.

"Hush My Mouse" (1946) - This appears to be Sniffles' best cartoon. From what I've heard, it emphasizes gags over characterization, a rarity for this series. I may be in the dark about some things since I am totally unfamiliar with "Duffy's Tavern", which the cartoon parodies, but that never stopped me from enjoying, say, "Wild Wild World".

"Nothing but the Tooth" (1948) - I love Arthur Davis' cartoons and this is one, of only two of his, that I have not seen (the other is "What Makes Daffy Duck"). This looks like an interesting short (Porky trying to avoid being scalped by a pint-sized Indian).

"Rabbit Stew and Rabbits Too" (1969) - Okay. So this is one of the Bill Hendricks era cartoons as well being somewhat of a Road Runner ripoff. In spite of that, this cartoon looks extremely interesting to me. I would love to see some of the Road Runner-ish blackout gags but in a totally different series.

[don Jaime]

Hush My Mouse is a shocker, especially since Sniffles is able to be flat-out nasty so easily. If you want, I'll dig out my tape and post a transcript for you sometime.

For my part, I want to see The Unbearable Bear. Never have seen in it, and Lord knows I've tried.

[hippety hopper]

The censored 11!!!!!!
These are the toons I most want to see,Esp. "Coal black" & "Tin pan alley cats".

Luckly here in the UK the Bugs bunny censored 11 doesn't aply.

[lislebartman]

I'd really like to see:

"The Isle of Pingo Pongo" - I have yet to see this one although it has been on Goopy Gear's page for awhile. I connect to the internet with a phone modem, so I wouldn't be able to enjoy it that much unless it is broadcast on TV or on video.

"Africa Squeaks" - the complete version, not the computer-colored severely butchered version that exists today.

"Westward Whoa" - the last cartoon to feature Beans as Porky's sidekick, I would like to see this mainly because I'm interested to see what is so bad about it that they do not broadcast it on TV.

[Sveven Dvorking]

Basically anything that I don't expect to get, but I will narrow it down to 10 cartoons.

The Lady in Red The only two-strip technicolor cartoon I have not seen. Also the oldest Merrie Melody I don't expect to get.

I'm a Big Shot Now Was this cartoon really offensive enough to avoid during the 1am one-shot Acme Hours?

Wise Quackers This sounds like a very funny cartoon. I really wish I was able to see it.

Dog Gone South Probably one of the best Charlie Dog cartoons. The southern stereotypes probably prevent Cargoon Networm from showing it.

Caveman Inki The last of the Inki cartoons.

A Bird in a Bonnet Cargoon Networm! Why can't you show this? It is in no way offensive!

China Jones This sounds like a very funny cartoon. And it wasn't directed by Jones!

Crockett-Doodle-Do This cartoon features the same gag as a later roadrunner cartoon, and it is the only Foghorn Leghorn cartoon that I do not have on tape.

Hocus Pocus Pow Wow The only Merlin the Magic Mouse cartoon I do not have on tape. It would be interesting to see how he deals with hostile Native Americans.

Injun Trouble (1969) The only Cool Cat cartoon I do not have on tape. It would be interesting to see how he deals with hostile Native Americans.

[PorkyandDaffy]

Either COLE BLACK AND DE SEBBEN DWARFS or TIN PAN ALLEY CATS. I'm a big Bob Clampett fan and I'd like to see them both.

[Jack]

"Quenton Quail"
I really love Jones' cartoons from the 40s, and I think this is the only one-shot Jones cartoon from this period I've never seen, and I often like the somewhat suble silliness found in those cartoons. I've heard it's really funny too.

"The Haunted Mouse"
Who wouldn't want to see the very first one shot Looney Tune ever made?

all the new 80s and 90s cartoons that have not been shown on TV yet.
I want to see if "Another Froggy Evening is as good as the first one, or if it's as bad as "From Hare To Eternity." I also want to see if "Father Of The Bird" is any good, even though I hear it's a an actionless talkfest.

the black and white "Puss and Booty"
The redrawn is soooooo horribly bad that I think I'll count the black and white version as a completely different cartoon. The difference between a redrawn and original can be big, just recently I saw an awful print of the sepia toned "Daffy's Southern Exposure," even through the damage on the tape I could see how much better it was from the redrawn. I never noticed how well animated and designed it was. It was like really watching a Looney Tune, something that I don't often feel when watching a redrawn.

I forgot one! "Porky and Daffy Meet The Groovy Ghoulies!"
I just have to see how awful it is! It better live up to it's reputation!


Jack:D

[bushnader666]

"Plane Daffy" (Tashlin 1944) Seems like a classic cartoon from Frank Tashlin. They should use this cartoon in another Toonheads - The Wartime Cartoons Special.

Coal Black.. and Tin Pan... RealVideo does not do justice to these cartoons, especially with Rod Scribner and McKimson animation. It's just too bad that these cartoons hace zero chance to be seen on TV again. Maybe a DVD???

"Eatin' Off the Cuff" (Clampett 1942) This seems like a very unique b/w toon from Clampett, with some wild Scribner animation.

"Wagon Heels" (Clampett 1945) I'm a HUGE Bob Clampett fan. This is one of the few I haven't seen (prob. due to un P.C.-ness)

"A Gruesome Twosome" I've seen the other Clampett Tweeties and they're great, action packed cartoons. This one should be no exeption.

"Becall to Arms" Notice a pattern here?

"Behind the Meatball" Fran Tashlin's last works at Warners are some of his best. (Esp. Nasty Quacks)

A good, b/w print of "Scrap Happy Daffy" (Tashlin 1943) with original WB titles. The one showed on CN was terrible (time expanded! Note that they used titles from a 1942 cartoon that did not have the correct Prodution Code (10-13).

More Art Davis toons. They get so little airtime.

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by bushnader666

"Wagon Heels" (Clampett 1945) I'm a HUGE Bob Clampett fan. This is one of the few I haven't seen (prob. due to un P.C.-ness)

More Art Davis toons. They get so little airtime.

Wagon Heels came on Acme Hour recently. It airs regularly on the Bob Clampett show.

About Arthur Davis cartoons, how many did he direct for WB anyway? If they showed his cartoons regularly, they would be overplaying them. There are not enough to go around.

[lislebartman]

If my count is correct, I believe Art Davis only direct 22 cartoons for Warners (including "Quackodile Tears" in 1961)

I like Davis's 'toons. "Dough Ray Meow", "What Makes Daffy Duck?" and "Riff Raffy Daffy" are his best, in my opinion!!

[Cartoon King]

I start my list with ones I doubt I'll ever get:

Hocus Pocus Pow Wow
Injun Trouble
The Door

From what I have read all 3 of these feature native Americans, but have never aired. I don't understand why, when up until a few years ago, most any other cartoon featuring Indians nas been shown. CN still manages to slip a few by during late night hours.

I would also like to see:

Heckling Hare--with the original ending intact
Have You Got Any Castles--with the Alex Woolcott scenes intact
Buddy's Circus--uncut
Buddy the Woodsman--uncut
Africa Squeaks--uncut and B&W
Puss And Booty--uncut and B&W

[PlopKat]

Uncle Tom's Bungalow is the only Censored 11 title I've yet to see.

Another title that's proved elusive to me is Joe Glow The Firefly.

I've yet to see the majority of Buddy cartoons and any Bosko cartoons that were not on the Bosko Video volumes.

-PlopKat

[Patrick McCart]

Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs

I would especially like to see it in a theater.

[John Doe]

The list is very long and specific, so here goes! :)

Porky's Romance
uncut versions in B&W and CZ

Injun Trouble
B&W and CZ versions

Kristopher Kolumbus Jr.
B&W and CZ versions

Africa Squeaks
uncut version, either B&W or CZ

Haunted Mouse
B&W and CZ versions

Joe Glow the Firefly
at least B&W, CZ if one was made

Porky's Bear Facts
B&W version; I have CZ

Porky's Preview
uncut version; either B&W or CZ

Porky's Ant
B&W and CZ versions

Robinsion Crusoe Jr.
at least B&W, CZ if one was made

Porky's Midnight Matinee
unedited version, B&W and CZ

Saps in Chaps
B&W

Daffy's Southern Exposure
B&W version; I have CZ

Hobby Horse Laffs
B&W

Gopher Goofy
B&W

The Daffy Duckaroo
B&W version; I have CZ

Scrap Happy Daffy
B&W and CZ versions
normal speed, not time decompressed version aired on Toonheads WW2 special

Puss N Booty
B&W version; I have CZ

[John Doe]

The list is very long and specific, so here goes! :)

Porky's Romance
uncut versions in B&W and CZ

Injun Trouble
B&W and CZ versions

Kristopher Kolumbus Jr.
B&W and CZ versions

Africa Squeaks
uncut version, either B&W or CZ

Haunted Mouse
B&W and CZ versions

Joe Glow the Firefly
at least B&W, CZ if one was made

Porky's Bear Facts
B&W version; I have CZ

Porky's Preview
uncut version; either B&W or CZ

Porky's Ant
B&W and CZ versions

Robinson Crusoe Jr.
at least B&W, CZ if one was made

Porky's Midnight Matinee
unedited version, B&W and CZ

Saps in Chaps
B&W

Daffy's Southern Exposure
B&W version; I have CZ

Hobby Horse Laffs
B&W

Gopher Goofy
B&W

The Daffy Duckaroo
B&W version; I have CZ

Scrap Happy Daffy
B&W and CZ versions
normal speed, not time decompressed version aired on Toonheads WW2 special

Puss N Booty
B&W version; I have CZ

[Patrick McCart]

Scrap Happy Daffy wasn't time-decompressed on TV.

It was just a very poorly made print (probably a 3rd generation print) that was transferred very poorly.

WB should have a pristine copy of Scrap Happy Daffy since they colorized it digitally in 1995.

[hippety hopper]

I thought of some more quite alot of us would like to see.....

ANY BOSKO Cartoon!!!!!!!!!

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by PlopKat
Uncle Tom's Bungalow is the only Censored 11 title I've yet to see.

-PlopKat

That's weird. Uncle Tom's Bungalow is the only Censored 11 title I've yet to see, also. A coincidence, obviously.

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by bushnader666
" "Scrap Happy Daffy" (Tashlin 1943) with original WB titles. The one showed on CN was terrible (time expanded! Note that they used titles from a 1942 cartoon that did not have the correct Prodution Code (10-13).

That was a dead giveaway. Many of the "reeled" cartoons seem to go slower than normal...those you usually find on a $3 tape at a CVS or something.

If there is anything I certainly want, I want all the cuts restored on every cartoon so maybe one day I will see all 1100 that were made! However, I certainly want to see Goldilocks And The Jivin' Bears...one of the Censored 11, I hear.

As for the rest, I have to go back to my research to find something I would like to see...and the only thing that comes to mind are the Inki cartoons. I never heard of the guy, nor have I seen a cartoon from him. How about a special Acme Hour on just Inki?

[Larry T]

These ones have been thorns in my side for years (you'll notice something in common with every one of them as well):

#1- HOBBY HORSE LAFFS- Uncut!! I'd love to see this one at a film fest or something to figure out just what's up with it being edited. Unfortunately for me, it's pretty obscure, and doesn't show up anywhere all that often.

#2- AFRICA SQUEAKS - Uncut!! I've never seen this one, period, and I refuse to watch an edited version for my first-ever viewing of it.

#3- DAFFY DUCKAROO- Uncut!! As I said in previous posts, there's something up with the opening song, and I'd love to see it run complete to find out just what's missing or been moved around to avoid.

#4- BUDDY'S CIRCUS- Uncut!!

#5- HOLLYWOOD STEPS OUT- Uncut version. Although according to Sody Clampett (from a few years back), the "director's version" still exists somewhere, and I'd really like to see it. Unfortunately, unless another print surfaces somewhere, or whoever stole it decides to come clean, that will never happen.

#6- BUDDY'S SHOWBOAT- Uncut.

Now you all finally know just what's been plaguing me all these years... #&@$!?* CENSORSHIP!!! I'd like to ban the banning of cartoons, or just censor the censorship efforts at least.

And as long as I'm at it, I might as well throw in that I'd like to see the original version of "Have You Got Any Castles", and "Book Revue" or "Hep Cat" with the original titles.... (well, I suppose ANY of the Blue-ribboned prints with their original titles would be nice....)

[hippety hopper]

Originally posted by Larry T

#5- HOLLYWOOD STEPS OUT- Uncut version. Although according to Sody Clampett (from a few years back), the "director's version" still exists somewhere, and I'd really like to see it. Unfortunately, unless another print surfaces somewhere, or whoever stole it decides to come clean, that will never happen.


Please forgive my ignorence but what happens in the "Directors cut" of "Hollywood steps out"?

[Emmanuel Cruz]

WOW! I never knew there was a director's cut of Hollywood Steps Out!

[Sveven Dvorking]

Actually, there were significantly less than that (1029 to be exact). I would love to see all of them, even if the rare ones were edited to three minutes! Of course, I don't really like censorship, but I am less bothered by it than many of you here.

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by Larry T
I'd like to see the original version of "Have You Got Any Castles", and "Book Revue" or "Hep Cat" with the original titles.... (well, I suppose ANY of the Blue-ribboned prints with their original titles would be nice....)

Maybe one of these days we will, but I can tell you that I have seen Have You Got Any Castles unedited on the Acme Hour a couple of months ago. I sure was surprised! It seemed like a spin off of MGM's Toyland Broadcast (1934)!

[Pietro]

These are all the WB cartoons I want to see:

Goopy Geer - unedited without CN logo
Bosko's Woodland Daze - clear, watchable print
Bosko The Drawback
Bosko's Dizzy Date
Bosko's Knight-Mare - unedited version
Buddy's Day Out - clear, watchable print
I've Got to Sing a Torch Song - unedited version
Buddy's Beer Garden
Buddy's Show Boat - unedited version
Buddy's Garage
Those Were Wonderful Days
Shake Your Powder Puff
Buddy's Circus - unedited version
Viva Buddy
Buddy the Dentist
Buddy the Woodsman - unedited version
Buddy's Bug Hunt
A Cartoonist's Nightmare
The Fire Alarm
The Phantom Ship - unedited
Africa Squeaks - unedited, complete
Porky's Ant - black and white version not redrawn
The Heckling Hare - unedited version
Hollywood Steps Out - unedited version
Hop and Go - unedited version
From Hand to Mouse - unedited version
Mexican Borders
The Quacker Tracker
Moby Duck
Norman Normal
Coming! Snafu! - Private Snafu
Injun Trouble - 1969 version
Hocus Pocus Pow-Wow

I really want to see the unedited "Bosko's Knight-Mare" since I'm a fan of the Bosko cartoons.

-Pietro

[Crazy Tom]

Now all I have to do is repair the two VHS tapes that snapped at the beginning to get my old cartoons back!

Then maybe I'll get to see some of the cartoons I have missed for years!
:confused:

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by Crazy Tom
Now all I have to do is repair the two VHS tapes that snapped at the beginning to get my old cartoons back!

Then maybe I'll get to see some of the cartoons I have missed for years!
:confused:

IF you want to play with a tape - USE A JUNK ONE FIRST!!!

they have a clutch inside (which is why you can't spin the reels) - it is comprised of VERY SMALL pieces, which break easily and fit together ONLY ONE WAY!!!

buena suerta

[Vdubdavid]

I doubt you'll see it unedited, since that stuff with the second cliff at the end was cut before the cartoon was released and it probably doesn't exist anymore. Anyone know otherwise?

[Sveven Dvorking]

Originally posted by Crazy Tom

Maybe one of these days we will, but I can tell you that I have seen Have You Got Any Castles unedited on the Acme Hour a couple of months ago. I sure was surprised! It seemed like a spin off of MGM's Toyland Broadcast (1934)!

I have never seen MGM's Toyland Broadcast (1934), but I am wondering if WB's Toy Town Hall (1936) has any relation to the older MGM cartoon.

[markc65]

I would like to see A Coy Decoy (1941-Clampett). Has it ever aired on the Bob Clampett Show? I know it exists on an old public domain videotape but I've yet to find it.

I am also interested in seeing The Hole Idea (1955-Mckimson). I know this is also available on one of the Looney Tunes Video Show videotapes from the early eighties, but I can't find this one either.

[Emmanuel Cruz]

A Coy Decoy did air on the Bob Clampett about 2 weeks ago. Obviously, it was edited.

[Jon Cooke]

Originally posted by DarkEJ310
A Coy Decoy did air on the Bob Clampett about 2 weeks ago. Obviously, it was edited.

You must have seen it on either Bugs & Daffy or Looney Tunes... "A Coy Decoy" wasn't included in any of the Clampett Show episodes. If it was, it wouldn't have been edited. It did air, uncut, on LNB&W once late last year. I have it on tape. :D


-Jon

[hippety hopper]

Actually another few thousand...

*Buddy's circus
*Bugs bunny nips the nips
*The lady in red....

[Emmanuel Cruz]

My mistake, Jon. I got A Coy Decoy off the Acme Hour.

[billyjoelfan]

it's a tie

southern fried rabbet (uncut)

and rabbit stew

p.s. does that make me a racest for wanting to watch thouse cartoons i hope not!

billy joel to release 2new albums this oct ! fan!

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by billyjoelfan
it's a tie...southern fried rabbit (uncut) and (all this and) rabbit stew...p.s. does that make me a racest for wanting to watch thouse cartoons i hope not!

Of course you're not a racist for that!

Unfortunately this is a day and age where it's power and money that decides what gets aired. I do want to see the original Southern Fried Rabbit, but CN has basically destroyed the whole film with so many edits! Now the Confederate Flag in the first Yosemite Sam scene has been recently taken away...give me a break!

Tell me if this is a double-standard: Roman Legion Hare has the ending line, "Well, as the Romans say, E Pluribis Uranium!" That was removed. Well, in A Pizza Tweety Pie (which I saw for the first time last night), there is a sign that says "Ducka You Head, Lowla Bridgeada". That was left in.

Am I missing something here???

[billyjoelfan]

Now the Confederate Flag in the first Yosemite Sam
scene has been recently taken away...

when did this happen!

damn i mean family guy had some biggotry in it but thay don't cut out simpsons has some of it as well but thay don't but it south park has it (well never mind that one)



billy joel from nyc fan!

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by billyjoelfan
when did this happen!

Probably a few months ago, during the time of the Confederate Flag Chaos in South Carolina this year, if you're aware of what happened.

Since CN is Atlanta-based, you know it's the little'ol south! But, to describe what happens, after Bugs notices the Mason-Dixon line, he sings "I'm comin', I'm comin', but my head is bended (gunshot)...looowww." At that point, Yosemite yells, "Charge!!!!" That Yosemite scene was edited because a Confederate Flag was displayed when he yells.

When that cartoon comes on CN, I turn it off right away because I get put into immediate Marvin the Martian attitude, making me "very angry...VERY angry indeed!!!"

[Thad Komorowski]

Originally posted by Crazy Tom


Maybe one of these days we will, but I can tell you that I have seen Have You Got Any Castles unedited on the Acme Hour a couple of months ago. I sure was surprised! It seemed like a spin off of MGM's Toyland Broadcast (1934)!

I think Larry means that he wants to see the UNCUT version with the Wolcott scenes.

-Thad:D

[billyjoelfan]

Originally posted by Crazy Tom


Probably a few months ago, during the time of the Confederate Flag Chaos in South Carolina this year, if you're aware of what happened.

Since CN is Atlanta-based, you know it's the little'ol south! But, to describe what happens, after Bugs notices the Mason-Dixon line, he sings "I'm comin', I'm comin', but my head is bended (gunshot)...looowww." At that point, Yosemite yells, "Charge!!!!" That Yosemite scene was edited because a Confederate Flag was displayed when he yells.


did thay cut it druning the june bugs marton

[Larry T]

Yup, that's what I meant, uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh.

Especially with the original credits, the Alexander Wolcott scene, and the irised-out ending. That's the completeness I'd really like to experience!

[Sveven Dvorking]

Replying to Larry T's last post

We won't be seeing any edits restored. By 2039, all the classic cartoons on TV (yes, they will still air) will be edited to the length of the edited September in the Rain (3:20) They will be pulled from TV in 2049, when the DVDs are released with edited, dubbed, and blue ribbon versions.

We will NEVER see original credits to that or any other Blue Ribbon cartoon.

I'm not a fortune teller, I'm just... not optomistic!

[Patrick McCart]

Steve, WB spent the last few years to supposedly restore the LT/MM's and is currently remastering them. I highly doubt any dubbed, edited, or Blue Ribbon versions will be on the DVD's.
(Based on very good info from thedigitalbits.com and they're right 99% of the time.)

Warner Bros. is having a DVD chat @ hometheaterforum.com in October, so we'll find out for sure.

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by Larry T

Especially with the original credits, the Alexander Wolcott scene, and the irised-out ending...

what is/was 'the Alexander Wolcott scene'?

the version I have (BR/MM) ends with a shot of 'Gone with the Wind' - am I missing something? (wouldn't be the first time...)

[J Lee]

The cut sections of "Have You Got Any Castles" from Jerry Beck's website:

Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castlez.jpg Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castle6.jpg Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castle7.jpg Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castle8.jpg
Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castle4.jpg Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castlea.jpg Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castleb.jpg Http://www.cartoonresearch.com/castle1.jpg

[happyheathen]

Thanks!

So much for the 'laser disc copies are uncut' theory...

and since when did WB care what a victim thought of being caricatured?

[J Lee]

and since when did WB care what a victim thought of being caricatured?

Since Wolcott threatened a lawsuit against Schlesinger and Warners. He was best known around New York literary circles (literally -- at the Algonquin Round Table) in the 1920s and 1930s who then got into radio -- to most people in American he was one of the earliest versions of those people today who are famous mainly for being famous. But he did hang out with the rich and famous in New York and had access to some high-powered lawyers. So when he took offense at Tashlin's second parody of him in less than a year (after the Alexander Owlcott characture in "The Woods Are Full of Coo-Coos") he went to court, and neither J.L. nor Leon were willing to argue the point.

Wollcott died after doing a radio broadcast in December 1943, so I suppose WB could have released the Blue Ribbon version with the characture restored, but didn't. Ironically, given Wollcott's rarifed/pompus/obsequious manner that Tashlin parodied, he probably would have gotten along big time with Frank after he became a famous feature film comedy director in the mid-1950s.

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by J Lee


Since Wolcott threatened a lawsuit against Schlesinger and Warners... and neither J.L. nor Leon were willing to argue the point.



So...

the habit of sacrificing artistic integrity came easily...

legal note:
unless there is malice (a closely-defined term), a 'figure in the public eye' is, in general, fair game for such things. See movie 'Absence of Malice'.

Jack - like this cat better? (I've got one of a 2-yr old snow leopard in a 'ready-to-pounce' stance (from the view of intended snack), but it is on emulsion, and I don't feel like playing in the darkroom, so...)

[J Lee]

Well, to give Leon and J.L. credit, they didn't fold a year-and-a-half earlier when Bing Crosby threatened them with a lawsuit over Freleng's "Bingo Crosbyana" which like Tashlin's "Castles" was Friz' second head-on shot at a famous celeb, after going after Crosby in the earlier "Let It Be Me." "Bingo Crosbyana" was never edited or removed from distribution, but it never was re-released as a Blue Ribbon, either.

Tashlin kind of made it up to Bing with 1944s "Swooner Crooner" and ironically, Frank's first big break in feature films was writing gags for Wolcott's Algonquin Round Table buddy, Harpo Marx, in 1946's "A Night In Casablanca."

(Friz also seemed to have some sort of beef against the 1930s St. Louis Cardinals "Gas House Gang" baseball team, but AFAIK neither Dizzy Dean nor Leo Durocher ever sued Warners over "Boulevardier from the Bronx" or "Baseball Bugs.")

[Jack]

Jack - like this cat better? (I've got one of a 2-yr old snow leopard in a 'ready-to-pounce' stance (from the view of intended snack), but it is on emulsion, and I don't feel like playing in the darkroom, so...)
I miss the leopard. I was just kidding about him being too cute. You didn't have to change it. Sorry if it sounded mean.

I think I would like to see "Hop and Go," I like Norman McCabe's cartoons. I don't tihnk they are as bad as everyone makes them out to be.



Jack:(

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by billyjoelfan
did thay cut it druning the june bugs marathon?

The scenes aforementioned were cut even before June Bugs, so even though I did not see the cartoon on the marathon, I assume that they were cut when shown.

[Thad Komorowski]

McCabe's cartoons WERE pretty bad, but I think his best were "The Ducktators", "The Daffy Duckaroo", and "Confusions of a Nutzy Spy". "Daffy's Southern Exposure" has it's moments as well too. Also, I should take back what I said, it wasn't McCabe's fault, he just had a poor unit. I bet if he was allowed to work longer, he'd make some fine cartoons, with a better unit. Too bad he had to go to war...

-Thad:D

[Sogturtle]

For me...

I'd just like to see "The Door" (1968) and "Injun Trouble" (1969).

Warners/CN if you're listening, then I'll give you a dollar! ;)

[Sogturtle]

Originally posted by Thad Komorowski
McCabe's cartoons WERE pretty bad, but I think his best were "The Ducktators", "The Daffy Duckaroo", and "Confusions of a Nutzy Spy". "Daffy's Southern Exposure" has it's moments as well too. Also, I should take back what I said, it wasn't McCabe's fault, he just had a poor unit. I bet if he was allowed to work longer, he'd make some fine cartoons, with a better unit. Too bad he had to go to war...

-Thad:D

I think considerably better of Norm McCabe. For timing ability and drawing he was quite good (compare him to Ben Hardaway, or Jack King). Keep in mind that this was the former Clampett unit and had some fine animators in it (Arthur Davis amongst them). The real fault rests with co-storymen Don Christensen and Melvin "Tubby" Millar. It should be noted that Christensen went on years later to a prominent position with Filmation.

[Jack]

Of the McCabe cartoons I've seen, I have to say they were good, not the best of Looney Tunes, but not the worst, or even near the worst.

Tokio Jokio: Okay, so this one is bad.

Confusions of a Nutzy Spy: I consider this a fine Porky that's pretty much on par with other Porky cartoons of the same era. The gags are well timed and funny.

The Daffy Duckaroo: I really like this one, a shame it isn't shown on TV. You can hear daffy sing the song that is pretty much the theme to "Naughty Neighbors."

The Impatient Patient: Perhaps McCabes best cartoon, this one is hardly a bad Looney Tune and quite funny.

The Ducktators: One of the best War films, it's WWII in nice funny package.

Daffy's Southern Exposure: This is also one of his best, and the real version is twice as good as the redrawn.

Who's Who in the Zoo: This is a mix of dull, old gags with a few decent moments.

Robinson Crusoe, Jr.: I like this one, if only for the catchy song and dance number.

The cartoons had great animation and progressive/modern background stylings. I'd like to see the rest of his films, but I'm not sure if i would have wanted him to stay on as a director longer than he did.


Jack:D

[J Lee]

McCabe's best cartoons are his ones with Daffy IMHO -- the duck's manic style forced McCabe and his writers to speed things up and at least put more gags into the cartoons, even if they all didn't work.

His other cartoons move at too slow a pace, where one weak gag or scene has to carry more weight because it takes a while before the next gag rolls around. And "Gopher Goofy" comes across like a script Jack Hannah would have rejected for a Donald Duck-Chip and Dale cartoon, if the two chipmunks had even been invented yet...

(Also, i kind of get the feeling that Tashlin's "Scrap Happy Daffy" started out life as a McCabe unit cartoon, then was taken over and adjusted by Tashlin when McCabe went into the Army. It's the only Tashlin cartoon that bears Christensen's name as story man, and there are one or two parts that seem a little un-Tashlin-like, compared to his later work)

[Sveven Dvorking]

and maybe some good Daffys, too. I would like to see The Impatient Patient and The Daffy Duckaroo in B&W.

[Mibbitmaker]

Of course, I also want to see the Censored 11, especially Coal Black.

They censored "E. Pluribus Uranium"????? The cuts officially make even less sense than before! Forget Censored 11...it's going to be the Censored Everything!

[The last sentence censored for language! :mad: ;) ]

[Crazy Tom]

Originally posted by Mibbitmaker
They censored "E. Pluribus Uranium"????? The cuts officially make even less sense than before! Forget Censored 11...it's going to be the Censored Everything!

Yepper...after June Bugs, I basically declared war on CN and WB.

If you've seen my earlier quotes, I have explained how our society has become nothing but a bunch of complainers. If one thing is so-called "borderline", then it gets deleted because it's considered non-PC. We do speak English, don't we? PC is NOT English!

There are too many double-standards in cartoons. Roman Legion Hare and A Pizza Tweey Pie is a good comparison, and for Tom and Jerry, Safety Second and The Yankee Doodle Mouse are also very comparible.

Somebody once said...if CN can edit cartoons for such content, why not ban wrestling?!

[Sveven Dvorking]

I, for one, am very upset at the E Pluribus Uranium edit.

Was A Pizza Tweety Pie edited when it premiered on CN? If so, what was edited? I didn't know they edited ABC Tweetys.:confused:

You already know everything I would like to see if you read My Want List (posted as a new thread)