Jurassic Park 4 news!

[The Clown Prince]

This comes from one of my favorite sites www.diabolical-dominion.com

"E! Online has reported that Universal Studios and Steven Spielberg himself, were dissapointed with the way JP 3 performed so he's turned to Michael Crichton to at least get a rough guide for a new story. Rumors say that they plan on pulling a Halloween with the whole, "it never happened" routine (why oh why?) and actually end the entire thing with the fourth installment. For now only Goldblum's character Ian and John Hammond are on board. There's also rumors that a "at least one Oscar winner" is being considered to direct or Spielberg himself may step up to direct-but Johnston will definitely not return.

Incidentally while doing an interview with a UK newspaper, Jeff Goldblum said that,"-their working on a script now, but I don't know what it's fully going to be about. I only know the premise. And Steven said this is going to take the Jurassic Park series to a whole new level"

Sounds like they're planning on taking the series in a whole new direction."

I don't know about forgetting completley about Jurassic Park 3. I've said it before, if the ending would have been different, this movie wouldn't have been bad. I really hope it's true that Michael Crichton is somehow involved. After all, he created the franchise.

Now, I'm a HUGE JP fan, and one thing I WON'T do again is hype myself so much for JP4 that I'll just be disapointed again. Though it will be hard not to. Spielberg sounds like he has something big planned. Within a couple of weeks after JP3 opened, Spielberg had said he had an idea for number 4 that would take it in a whole new direction. Can't wait!

The Clown Prince

[Zechs]

GodNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Terminatah]

I think this is a great idea. Jurassic Park III was more about making a quick buck than telling a story worthy of its predecessors. The series that began with such majesty and grace came to a very abrupt and abysmal conclusion. There is room for a fourth installment (and lord knows, more than enough unadapted material from the two novels). Between Spielberg and Crichton, there's a shot the T-rex will have good cause to rise again.

-Terminatah

[Failure]

I liked JP3 better than JP2. I guess I'm interested in what direction they're going to take JP, and it's good to hear they plan on ending the franchise with 4.

[Bird Boy]

I enjoyed all 3 movies..and JP3 was good because it was just entertaining...

as for JP4? all I gotta say is, "cool".. :)

-BB

[joshualane]

Well CRAP! Suites me right for buying the DVD box set when I thought they weren't going to be doing any more Jurassic Park films.

I think a fourth would be good if they get all the good people involved again so I'll certainly check it out if/when it comes.

[Clayface]

Yeah, I liked all three of 'em too. I'll be interested to see what they do with this one.

[RogueMartian]

Jurassic Park was cool because it was an awesome sci fi adventure story-five stars

Jurassic Park II was cool because it had a high death count and the T-rex rampaged through san diego- five stars

Jurassic Park III-crappy story, VERY low death count, almost no adventure or character development. Very poor use of some high quality actors- 1.5 stars

Jurassic Park IV-why won't it end? What more can the story possibly offer.

Let me guess what the story will be....
Morons go to island
Ian: "bad stuff will happen"
Others: "oh no, we're all prepared, we'll be on and off in a day
Dinosaurs: Hehehehe
Ian: look i'm telling you, its gonna be bad
Others: where's the underdeveloped unknown actor?....Oh NO!!!

Morons scamper around the island doing a few daring escapes from the dinosaurs, especially the raptors before finally escaping from the island with quite a number of bruises, cuts and scrapes. But they are happily escaping the violent and hungry dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs: hehehe, they'll be back, we'll be fed. Thank you mr. spielberg

[Terminatah]

From what I've read, this story won't take place on Isla Nublar OR Isla Sorna. It will be a complete reinvention of the routine. This is a good move, because while Jurassic Park and The Lost World were substantially different from each other, Jurassic Park III was just another retread; it really had no purpose for existing. I think the potential of a new formula for these movies is definitely something worth exploring. Unlike the last one, we won't know WHAT to expect.

-Terminatah

[JustJack]

I'm sorry. I am a HUGE JP fan, myself. And so...despite my instincts telling me "oh no"...I can't help myself. THANK GOD! hahahaha. And I also HAVE TO(as in "required") be happy that Hasbro will probably be making these toys in the 3 3/4 scale, like the JP3 toys, so I'll have an Ian Malcolm figure to go with my Dr. Grant figure(SWEET!!!). Heh...anyway.

Well, it'll be easy to act like JP3 never happened. Like previously stated, if the ending was different, it woulda been a better movie. But, they could just pretend that the incidents during JP3 just never reached to public. So, as long as Grant isn't involved, which he'd probably talk about the raptors & the Spinosaurus(Such a rare dino. There was only one complete structure of its bones ever found, but it was destroyed. Why did they choose such a rare dino?? JEEZE!).

I always liked the idea of "dinosaurs taking over the earth". I remember that was the rumored premise for JP3, back when the project was first mentioned. But, I loved the idea that "They brought them to the mainland...then they took over". And quite frankly, with the "super smart" Raptor aspect of JP3, that could play in a really cool way with how events would work out. Thats just my opinion, & it'd be really cool.

But...c'mon. If Malcolm is in it, Julian Moore's character(Sarah) should be involved. Anyway...heh...I'm JP's answer to the rabid fan. Now excuse me as I go play with my JP human figures, with unusually large weaponry, versus horribly-out-of-scale Dino's. WOOP! ;)

[SpaceCub]

so he's turned to Michael Crichton to at least get a rough guide for a new story


For now only Goldblum's character Ian and John Hammond are on board

Well, seeing as how Crichton had Hammond eaten to death by compies in the first book, I don't like the idea of bringing him back for 4. Yeah, I know, Muldoon (who survived the book, btw) said Malcom died in the first book too, but Crichton explains how he survived in Book 2.

Jurassic Park the movie had some real bad-ass potential had they stuck with the book, but nonetheless, it was at least 3 out of 4 stars. Not to mention that the CG was relatively ground breaking at the time (did you know that they were originally going for claymation for the dinos? glad they went CG).

JP2 the movie, once again had some potential had it stuck to the book, but it fell far shorter than what I had expected. I can't believe they left out the Carnotaurus and the poison dart guns! Still a fair movie, even better if you hadn't read the book first.

JP3 in short sucked. It had its tolerable parts, but Tea Leone's character need to have been eaten (preferably early on)
Grant: "Maybe you shouldn't make so much noise"
Tea *thru bullhorn* "WHAT?!"
SpaceCub/Charlie Brown: "Argh"
As other have pointed out, could have been much better had different steps been taken.

JP4: Like any movie, it still has it's potential. Who knows, maybe if they get Crichton as involved with it as he was in 13th Warrior (Eaters of the Dead for you real Crichton fans. Movie was cool, would have been cooler if they made Bulwyf out to be like Odin as in the book), it may actually be cool.

But the real question is: Who's looking forward to Timeline?

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"At the earliest drawings of the fractal curve, few clues to the underlying mathematical structure will be seen"

[RogueMartian]

Timeline? That was the best book I read last year. I loved it, Is someone making a movie out of it? I hadn't heard anything about it, but it was so good I assumed someday someone would put it into a film version. As long as they follow the book (LOL) it should be a great film.

[The Clown Prince]

If anybody like me followed JP3 when it started filming, you'll remember that about 3 to 4 weeks prior to filming, director Joe Johnston threw the entire script out. He didn't like the story that he was about to film. Universal flipped out but stupidly chose not to delay filming because they already reserved sound stages, made arrangements with the state of Hawaii where they filmed on location, etc. It would have cost Universal more money to cancel and reschedule, so they pressed on. So basically the writers and the director came up with a story out of their butt. Johnston did say they left elements from the original story in the new and crappy story. The story wasn't done when filming started and they were writing it as they filmed it.

Now what was the original story? Basically it was a murder mystery story that was going to take place on the Costa Rican main land AND Isla Sorna. Somehow raptors made their way to the main land. The story involved a bunch of murders happening where the people in the know suspected dinosaurs. Action insues on the island and the main land. How it would have ended I haven't been able to find that answer.

I have always told friends and family that have seen JP3 that I have a strong feeling that the big names like Sam Neill and Wiliam H. Macey wouldn't have signed on if the story that became JP3 was what was presented to them before they signed. They signed on for the original story and that's what should have been. Johnston biffed it, and Universal knows it. Universal too is at fault for not delaying filming so they could have enough time to write a better story. What gets me is that Spielberg and Universal say they are disapointed at how it performed. If they were surprised by it, they're complete morons for not seeing it with all the problems the production of JP3 had.

Ugh! Here's hoping they get it write for the 4th and final time around.

The Clown Prince

[The Clown Prince]

I had too much info from my last post so I split it up. Here's the second of half of what I wanted to say. This comes from www.dansjp3page. It's basically the same story with some slightly different news...

"Crichton, Spielberg Working on JP4?

The major news sites are getting into the JP4-rumor fun this morning, as E! Online's resident gossip guy, Anderson Jones, posted a blurb about a possiblity of a fourth dino flick, saying that "unhappy with the way Jurassic Park III turned out... Universal and Jurassic Park's original director, Steven Spielberg, want to enlist Park author Michael Crichton for at least the story to guide the fourth installment." Here's more:

I hear plans, so far, are to pull a Dallas number ("It was all a dream..."), pretend Jurassic Park III never happened and end the series, once and for all, with IV. Which means there'd be no place for William H. Macy and Téa Leoni, who both have options to return. For now, only Ian Malcolm and John Hammond are on the drawing board. Johnston's moving on, and Universal's considering a host of brand-name directors--including at least one Oscar winner. Even Spielberg may want to direct, but that, of course, means the film may never get made. (See Memoirs of a Geisha.) In either case, I suspect Spielberg's planning a more hands-on producing approach this time.

Now it might just be me, but I think Anderson here might of gotten this tidbit partially from JP Database (Update: Not JPA, sorry Steve!), who posted a supposed interview with Goldblum last week but without the name of the newspaper it came from.. With Crichton admitting on his website that he hasn't even seen JP3, could he really be interested in working on a story for JP4? (Thanks Daniel)"

Good point about Tea Leoni and William H. Macey. If any of this is true, Macey will be missed, but NOT Leoni!

The Clown Prince

[Jedigreedo]

Jurassic Park /// was a disgrace to the series. Lost World wasn't all that great of a sequel, but at least it had a plot and realism (for a continuation of the story that is...) and it stuck to the original movie continuity. Not too mention JP/// had some pretty poor characters, plot holes and constantly using the spinosaurus as the main one was annoying.

Anyways I'm actually looking forward to JP4 with Spielberg at least working on it with Crichton. Did that say that Niell and Goldblum would return or is it just one of them? I'd like to see'em both back in a JP movie again. :cool:

[SpaceCub]

With Crichton admitting on his website that he hasn't even seen JP3

LOL, that puts me in a good mood for the rest of the week


Somehow raptors made their way to the main land

Okay, at the end of the 1st book, some US ambassador is telling Grant how there have been sightings of strange animals about 6 feet tall on the mainland. There also have been reports that something has been eating selective crops in fields. Henry Wu, the gen engineer who made the dinos left out a critical enzyme (lysine) in the dinos gen code so that they needed to be fed with it regularly in order to survive, i.e. if they escaped to the mainland they would die. I'm assuming that somehow some raptors (in the book there were like 37 of them, and they could breed) escaped by boat and were now eating crops that contained lysine in order to survive. I'm guessing that the orig story for JP 3 may have followed up on this

I've only heard vague rumors about Timeline. Maybe it will be (if they make the movie at all) really cool.

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"Anyone who is not shocked by the quantum theory does not understand it."

"No one understands the quantrum theory."

[Palin Dromos]

I'm not sure what to think. First of all if they do make JP4 it will not be the last. Some time, some one will revive the franchise. Anyway I agree that JP3 was soley a monetary venture and while it looked good it really was a poor film.

Now JP4 could be good, emphasis on could.

I need to hear a solid premiss before making to many speculations.

I would like to see a reunion of the original cast. Mainly Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum. What ever happens it needs to be darker, 2 was darker than 1 and that worked well. But 3 was way to cheery and all the science and ethics of 1 and 2 went out the window. The return of Crichton sounds like good news too me.

I think I'll just wait and listen.

[Batmex]

My prediction for JP4:

they'll just drop a nuke on the island to prevent a 5th sequel.

[Palin Dromos]

Originally posted by Batmex
My prediction for JP4:

they'll just drop a nuke on the island to prevent a 5th sequel.

That just begs for a sequel!

Radio Active Mutant Dinosaurs Terrorize the World!

And let's not forget that shaving cream can from the first one. That's a dangling plot thread that can quite easily be revived.

Nothing short of a low box-office return can stop sequels once they get going.

[Terminatah]

Originally posted by Palin Dromos


That just begs for a sequel!

Radio Active Mutant Dinosaurs Terrorize the World!

And let's not forget that shaving cream can from the first one. That's a dangling plot thread that can quite easily be revived.

Nothing short of a low box-office return can stop sequels once they get going. Ah, but there's a reason Nedry had to get those embryos off the island immediately. There was only enough coolant gas in that canister for about 36 hours. After that, they'd be no good.

-Terminatah

[John-Paul]

How did JP3 end?

[Terminatah]

Originally posted by John-Paul
How did JP3 end? A well-timed call from Alan Grant to Ellie Sattler on the satellite phone alerted her that they were stranded on Isla Sorna and in mortal danger of being eaten. She was somehow able to send a massive army overnight which rescued them the next day.
-Terminatah

[Ricochet_The_Sweet14]

i hope they do make another one!!! i liked all three. i still watch all three now.
people are getting greedy, they are only wanting gold and thats it. i mean i didnt waste money going to the movies for ethier one of those movies. im not as dumb as most people too feed into that rip off, i mean do you really think it is worth spending at least $40 for a family of four to go to the movies? i just wait for it to come to tape and then buy it, then whats this? i spent $15 for the movie that people went out to fight all the mean people in the world, just to waste there hard earned money. some people are not in there right mind when it come to spending money plus people think that they get gold for everything that we are dumb enough to spend there money on.
i bet those people on welfare even waste money to go to the movies its human nature!
so stop saying its a bad thought to want to make another JP because you know you going to watching at the movies or buy it, thats how we all are. why do you think it is like that? its not because it cost alot to make, its because you people feed into that rip off, thats why cars are alot of money is because you people just go right out and buy that cool looking new one. if you didnt they would bring the price down. same with EVERYTHING else stop wanting gold then we wont have to pay so much for it! :mad:
sorry for boring you! :D

[SpaceCub]

they'll just drop a nuke on the island to prevent a 5th sequel.

they dropped a bomb on the first island in the book, Crichton made a sequel simply by getting another island

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"Nothing in this world could possibly make me go back to that island"

[Palin Dromos]

Originally posted by Terminatah
Ah, but there's a reason Nedry had to get those embryos off the island immediately. There was only enough coolant gas in that canister for about 36 hours. After that, they'd be no good.

-Terminatah

Ah Ah, but the canister was buried under very cold mud, by a waterfall. That's enough cold for a writer to make a flimsy excuse for the embryos surviving.

[Terminatah]

Originally posted by Palin Dromos


Ah Ah, but the canister was buried under very cold mud, by a waterfall. That's enough cold for a writer to make a flimsy excuse for the embryos surviving. By George, you've done it! ;)

-Terminatah

[Jedigreedo]

But, if someone were to find it, don't you think they would just throw it in the trash? Although since it's the movies someone would probably take it as a very exclusive find.

"We'll go down in history as the people that found shaving cream by an abandoned jeep on an abandoned island!" :D

[JustJack]

Oh come on! That canister would have probably been vaporized when they dropped the nuke. Or knocked into the ocean...hmmm......

[Terminatah]

Don't worry, folks, it's a tropical setting. Cold mud turns into hot mud in the morning, and then those embryos are old news. Same goes for the embryos in the lab freezer once the power was shut off.

IF the power was shut off ...

-Terminatah

[Meow]

Ah man, you gotta be kidding me. The third one was bad enough.

The first two were great, but the third one was just plain bad. Bleh...... I think we need a puking face. If there was one, you could bet your sweet grandma I'd be using it right now.

Here I'll make my own. :mad: + :p = puking face

There we go.

[Blight]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JP3 was a good popcorn flick, but the story was dissapointing, and it sort of messed up the whole continuity thing. But, if Spielberg in on board and wants to take the series in a new direction, that can only mean good things.

I'm all for pretending JP3 never happened, as it was somewhat of a disgrace to the other two films. It didn't even feel like a Jurassic Park movie.

I'm also very happy Ian Malcolm is going to be back, as he's my favorite JP character, and Jeff Goldblum is also my favorite actor!

Yep, I smell good things cooking for JP4.

See ya!
Blight