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Tintin
04-12-2002, 10:26 PM
Are you liked a cartoon airing in time-compressed? (speed up from original version)
My favorites are:
"Hare-Way to the Stars", (i hate the original speed version) "Tree Cornered Tweety" and "Forward March Hare"
Matthew Hunter
04-12-2002, 10:39 PM
You're insane...I can't stand any of them! They're abominations and I don't know why they do them. However, if you mean which one is least annoying, I'd go with "Robin Hood Daffy"...because it's not so awfully fast (see the opposite end of the scale: "Dough for the Dodo".) The worst thing about them is that they make the voices sound funny and they darken the picture...compare CN's version of "Rabbit Fire", or "Tortilla Flaps" (that one aired on a late night Acme Hour, if you have it) then look at the original on the Golden Jubilee series. You'll see what I mean. They're not so annoying that you can't watch them, they don't really detract from the cartoon if you're just watching TV....but just compare them to the unsped versions. I think CN did it on purpose to a few of them (they do it to Scooby Doo all the time, so I've read). Warner Bros. did it too, I think it's a video project gone awry and they never took the prints out of their distribution pile.
-Matthew
Tintin
04-12-2002, 10:57 PM
For me, the cartoons were time-compressed or original versions were none importants. But the time-compressed version of "Fast and Furry-ous" aired on TVA are the "Stars of Space-Jam" videotape version and not the CN darking version. The great majority of cartoons air on time-compressed on TVA are the Marvin the Martian: Space Tunes and Stars of space-Jam videotapes version. (except "Zoom and Bored" were normal versions but the Golden Jubilee version with yellow in the side) But yes certain cartoons on time-compressed were darking pictures like "Heaven Scent" and also recent versions like "Hare Do". But what you want??? It's the life!! :rolleyes:
Crazy Tom
04-12-2002, 11:27 PM
I don't know how anyone can like a time-compressed cartoon. I remember when Popeye was being aired on WWOR (channel 9) back in the late 1980's and all the cartoons shown were time-compressed, and even colorized. I personally do not understand how they can do that! It's almost unfeasible to me.
However, I do remember one of my all-time favorite films being time-compressed, entitled To Spring (from MGM in 1936). I saw the time-compressed version and I certainly was not impressed one bit, all because the music was one half-step below pitch and the rushing that took place just ticked me off!
For a classic 8:40 cartoon to be compressed to just six and a half minutes just does not make sense, so there is no way I can vote for a favorite.
Patrick McCart
04-13-2002, 01:07 AM
The cartoons were never meant to be sped up.
Geezil
04-14-2002, 01:48 AM
NO!
In fact, seeing/hearing just one of those time-compressed Popeyes back in the day on WWOR-TV gave me a time-compressed whopper of a headache. No lie.
(And you thought that Pokemon episode with the strobe effects was the only problem of its kind in TV history...!) ;)
Pilmedium
04-14-2002, 10:30 AM
Dough for the Do-Do. That remake of an earlier cartoon, more than most others, is an insult to the original. Time compressing it makes it look awful, giving it the treatment it deserves.
Originally posted by Pilmedium
Dough for the Do-Do. That remake of an earlier cartoon, more than most others, is an insult to the original. Time compressing it makes it look awful, giving it the treatment it deserves.
So the people who worked on it deserve to have thier work look like crap.
Jack :(
Crazy Tom
04-14-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Pilmedium
Dough for the Do-Do. That remake of an earlier cartoon, more than most others, is an insult to the original. Time compressing it makes it look awful, giving it the treatment it deserves.
Now wait a second...Dough For The Do-Do?
The only reason why it's time-compressed is because it was sped-up to fit the 60 minute time limit alloted for that Looney Tunes Golden Jubilee Video (Porky Pig). That is not the fault of CN...this dates back to 1985 when the video came out!
I'm just wondering why AWOL-TW hasn't fixed that after nearly 17 years.
rodney
04-14-2002, 03:32 PM
My understanding is that at least on video, it has been corrected. The current release, on Taz's Jungle Jams is not time-compressed.
Why would it have killed them if that Porky video ran 62 minutes long?
PorkyandDaffy
04-14-2002, 05:34 PM
Actually, I think that the sped-up version of PORKY'S DUCK HUNT made the cartoon a little funnier for some reason. But mostly, I can't stand time compressed versions.
Vdubdavid
04-14-2002, 09:30 PM
If I had a favorite, it would have to be "Broom-stick Bunny", purely on the strength of the opening credits music, which I thought was terrific!
Tintin
04-14-2002, 10:02 PM
On Golden Jubilee video collection, the time-compressed version of "You Ought to Be in Pictures", "Wearing of the Grin", "Dough for the Do-Do" and "Porky's Duck Hunt, the music were very different compared to CN and original time-compressed versions were played it. That's more "normal speed" but the music and voices are more speed compare to the original. :eek:
Greg Method
04-14-2002, 10:42 PM
The time-compressed prints that are currently aired on our "favorite" network were first created in 1995 for a series of Mexican video cassettes. These are a different animal than the prints that were on the Golden Jubilee tapes.
I strongly belief and continue to stand by such mocked-upon belief that the reason those prints are even on Cartoon Network is because those are the most recent prints that Warner Bros. has dubbed into Spanish, and CN needs them for their Spanish audio feed.
How they were made I'm not sure, but it is the assumption that UK tapes that were transferred to NTSC format were involved.
J Lee
04-14-2002, 10:42 PM
"Porky's Duck Hunt" on the Golden Jubilee video probably suffered the least from time compression, because it's the oldest of the WB cartoons that was time-compressed.
In 1937 Avery and crew were still new to the game of creating "Warner Bros. cartoons" in the house style, and the pacing and speed of the cartoons hadn't picked up to the level it would only a year of two later. So the time-compressed version actually speeds up some of the slower gags to a pace Tex probably would have done (or even exceeded) if he had made "Porky's Duck Hunt" a few years later.
That said, Porky's voice is still a little bit too fast on the time-compressed version, especially the stammering parts. But it was Mel's first time out doing the voice, and he did tend to stammer more and his voice was speed up slightly faster originally in the first few cartoons than it would be later.
lislebartman
04-15-2002, 09:29 AM
Time-compressed cartoons are a waste of time, period! Whenever I hear the sped-up version of "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down", I change the channel very quickly!
Crazy Tom
04-15-2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by J Lee
"Porky's Duck Hunt" on the Golden Jubilee video probably suffered the least from time compression, because it's the oldest of the WB cartoons that was time-compressed.
Here's the problem: in the Golden Jubilee version of Porky's Duck Hunt, the opening used "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down" music from a year later!
The original opening to the 9-minute cartoon was the version prior to "The Merry-Go-Round" was used (such as you see in Porky's Super Service or Badtime Story or something like that).
Incidentally, both Porky and Daffy both sounded real funny in the sped-up version, at least in my opinion.
J Lee
04-15-2002, 02:37 PM
Yea, there is a certain irony in them using the 1937-38 theme dubbed onto the start of "Porky's Duck Hunt" for the Golden Jubilee tape, and then five years later they start using the 1936-37 theme dubbed onto the opening of a bunch of the 1941-43 colorized cartoons.
The time compressed versions speed up Blanc's voices, which were already faster than the later versions of Porky and Daffy (Porky's voice would slow down within a year; Daffy's voice didn't get down to its normal speed until Freleng's "You Ought to Be In Pictures" -- NOT the time-compressed version -- from 1940).
Pilmedium
04-15-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by J Lee
Yea, there is a certain irony in them using the 1937-38 theme dubbed onto the start of "Porky's Duck Hunt" for the Golden Jubilee tape, and then five years later they start using the 1936-37 theme dubbed onto the opening of a bunch of the 1941-43 colorized cartoons.
The 1937-38 theme was used when CN aired the B&W version, right? About those 1941-43 colorized cartoons, I always thought it sounded weird. Now I know! :D
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