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The Clown Prince
04-12-2002, 04:27 AM
This comes from the not so loved site, the comics continuum...

"Dan Jurgens told The Continuum that he is drawing a G.I. Joe story for Devil's Due and Image Comics.

"Larry Hama is writing, I'm drawing and Bob Layton will be inking a four-issue (story for) G.I. Joe: Front Line," Jurgens told The Continuum. "Front Line will bridge the gap in time from the Marvel stuff to what Devil's Due is doing today. We've just gotten started and it promises to be a lot of fun.

"The funny part is the reaction of my kids. If the walk into my studio and see me drawing Superman, Cap or virtually anyone else, they don't think much of it. But if they walk in here when Joe is on my board and the action figures are scattered about, suddenly, something interesting is going on!"

G.I. Joe: Front Line will likely begin in October."

Very cool! The fact that Larry Hamma will be able to wrap up his old series of sorts is very cool. October couldn't come fast enough.

The Clown Prince

Mad Monkey 7
04-12-2002, 04:11 PM
What wrong with the Comics Continuum?

Samhaine
04-12-2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Mad Monkey 7
What wrong with the Comics Continuum?
Their news is generally stolen from other sites. On numerous occasions I've seen news from TZ on CC, word for word. They've done the same to Newsarama.

kid_flash
04-12-2002, 08:14 PM
Hey, something Lary Hama could actually write!

And I like the Continuum. Do they rip people off? Yes. But I've seen the Continuum post articles, and Toonzone copy it word for word without giving them credit. You could say "Well the Continuum does that to us so that means we can do it to them!" Well, no, it doesn't.

Vin
04-13-2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by kid_flash
And I like the Continuum. Do they rip people off? Yes. But I've seen the Continuum post articles, and Toonzone copy it word for word without giving them credit. You could say "Well the Continuum does that to us so that means we can do it to them!" Well, no, it doesn't.

Toon Zone copies word for word without giving them credit? Can you please show me the specific articles please, as I am interested. I believe every time Jim posted something from CC, he at least gave credit.

kid_flash
04-14-2002, 07:12 PM
Lemme see...

Well....crap, I know there in there. Problem is, CC deletes their articles after 6 days, so I can't go back and compare and give actual proof, but I do remember it happening...

It happened a lot leading up to the JL premiere, as well as upcoming episodes before TZ got in contact with the producers directly. Basically, what would happen is I'd see an article at the Continuum, come over to TZ and find the exact same article, without it directing readers over the the Continuum (as is done with articles from Newsarama and CBR and such).

I'll letcha know if I ever see it happen again...

Vin
04-14-2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by kid_flash
Lemme see...

Well....crap, I know there in there. Problem is, CC deletes their articles after 6 days, so I can't go back and compare and give actual proof, but I do remember it happening...

It happened a lot leading up to the JL premiere, as well as upcoming episodes before TZ got in contact with the producers directly. Basically, what would happen is I'd see an article at the Continuum, come over to TZ and find the exact same article, without it directing readers over the the Continuum (as is done with articles from Newsarama and CBR and such).

I'll letcha know if I ever see it happen again...

Okay, because I am strongly against copying people's news and not sourcing it. I was under the impression that it was always sourced. However, I could be wrong. Then again, I trust our news staff would do the right thing and until I see otherwise, I'll stand by them.

kid_flash
04-14-2002, 09:32 PM
The only real credit I would imagine the TZ staff giving the Continuum is a "Bruce Timm told the Continuum" which is in the Continuum article itself. Other than that, I remember it as being copied word-for-word without credit given...

The Guard
04-15-2002, 10:53 AM
Do you think the Joes will wear Kevlar for when they get shot point black in the head? :)

JohnCrichton
04-16-2002, 05:06 PM
Larry's run on Wolverine was my utter favorite. After he left... I could've cared less.

I look forward to seeing his Front Line stuff, too bad I have to wait 'til fwicking October to see it. :b

But, I'll buy it no doubt.

Samhaine
04-16-2002, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by JohnCrichton
Larry's run on Wolverine was my utter favorite. After he left... I could've cared less.
You're kidding, right? The 4 issues after he left was a great story arc by Warren Ellis. I remember it being about a man who's goal was to kill Wolverine, but I don't remember why (it's been about 5 years since it's release, in my defense). It had reall great art by Yu and was just all around well done. The issues right after that, with Claremont at the helm, and everything following, however... :rolleyes:

JohnCrichton
04-17-2002, 12:41 AM
Nope, no joke.

I loved Larry... everyone of the stories I read had a wandering Samurai feel to it or had some kinda zen philsophical lesson behind it.

And I know my opinion is not that of the majority, but I thought Yu's art was complete crap after seeing Kubert's work. It was so... scratchy looking and above all very two-dimensional.

This is just what I thought of it tho. I understand there must be a reason why so many people like him, but.... I'm just not one of them.

Warren Ellis... what story arc was that?

Samhaine
04-17-2002, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by JohnCrichton
Warren Ellis... what story arc was that?
It was right after Operation:Zero Tolerance (Hama's last issue of the title). It was 4 issues, and was quite good.

kid_flash
04-17-2002, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by JohnCrichton
Nope, no joke.

I loved Larry... everyone of the stories I read had a wandering Samurai feel to it or had some kinda zen philsophical lesson behind it.


Well, then he decided to abandon all that when the horrible day came for him to write BATMAN...that stuff just sucked.

JohnCrichton
04-18-2002, 09:47 AM
I know.... I was looking forward to it at first. I'd actually be able to read a Batman comic!

Picked one up.. it was junk! Others afterward weren't impressive either.

I thought it was kinda odd, since his run in Wolverine rated in the "brilliant" category for me.

The Guard
04-18-2002, 10:47 AM
I think the problem with Hama's Batman was that he talked too much. He said EVERYTHING he was thininkg. And he got shot in the head at point blank range and was fine.

"The phosphorous on the slime in front of me is undisturbed. Which means-"

spyke
04-18-2002, 04:10 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnCrichton
Nope, no joke.

I loved Larry... everyone of the stories I read had a wandering Samurai feel to it or had some kinda zen philsophical lesson behind it.

And I know my opinion is not that of the majority, but I thought Yu's art was complete crap after seeing Kubert's work. It was so... scratchy looking and above all very two-dimensional.

This is just what I thought of it tho. I understand there must be a reason why so many people like him, but.... I'm just not one of them.

Warren Ellis... what story arc was that? [/QUO

I agree With you, larry hama's work on wolverine was the best on that title. Yes, even better then ellis and claremont's stories on that title.

Hama is one of the most underated writers in the industry. He dose'nt even get the proper credit and praise that he deserves, unlike the current "hot"/"flavor of the month" creators get. For instance, he wrote the best selling amalgam title (DARK CLAW) and the idiots at wizard wont even mention or even put him on their top 10 hottest writer chart, but they had no problem stating how well the book sold. I also felt his work on batman was unfairly critasized by fans (the whole getting shot in the head thing) who had no real idea about guns or kevlar (hama was in the army and is an expert on firearms, he was drafted durring vietnam). His writing on G.I. JOE,NTH MAN,and Wolverine were all great.

Samhaine
04-18-2002, 11:13 PM
One word on Hama's Batman that should leave no doubt in anyone's mind how bad it was: ORCA. I rest my case.

spyke
04-19-2002, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by bloodone
One word on Hama's Batman that should leave no doubt in anyone's mind how bad it was: ORCA. I rest my case.

Hama did not plot/come up with that story, the artist did. Hama only scripted over the artists plots for that story.

kid_flash
04-19-2002, 07:12 PM
Which brings up my other theory that you should never let an artist plot :D

Samhaine
04-19-2002, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by kid_flash
Which brings up my other theory that you should never let an artist plot :D
I hope that's not your theory on every artist, as there are some great writer/artists out there.