Why is Pilot Candidate's dub so bad???

[Artemis]

In this day and age, in a world where good dubs have finally surfaced and where nearly every anime out there has gotten a good dub, how in the world did Pilot Candidate's incredibly horrible oh-so-terrible dub escape from the seventh dimension of hell?! I mean, really!

Is there any reason for this? :p

[Jake]

Okay, I have no idea, and also have a very hazy understanding of the anime and dubbing industry, but here's a guess:

PC is rumored to only be on AS for a short while, right? Like, something they needed to fill in some time before something else comes? If this is true, maybe CN, knowing it wasn't here to stay, just quickly threw together some random VAs and didn't put much effort into it.

Ah, what the H*** do I know.

[Sandoz]

What's sad is that the PC dub was brought to us by the same company that dubbed Cowboy Bebop... :o

[William C. Maune]

[indent]I'm not sure it is as much of a case of the dub being bad as much as Pilot Candidate being bad in general. The problems to me seem to be with lack of character development and a well defined plot. These kids are going through training and that seems to about it. I don't sense any real threat from victim, the goddesses seem to take care of them without too much trouble each time.

[Artemis]

I heard a rumor that the japanese company that made PC was involved with the dubbing.




Could that have been the problem? :confused:

[Jude Santos]

PC is rumored to only be on AS for a short while, right? Like, something they needed to fill in some time before something else comes? If this is true, maybe CN, knowing it wasn't here to stay, just quickly threw together some random VAs and didn't put much effort into it.

CN didnt have anything to do with the dub of PC

[Jude Santos]

you guys wanna know something? in dvd #2 (or was it #1?), theres an extra called "GOA dubbing academy" (not the exact title, but something along that line) where you can watch the video segements in mute with the script in the bottom of the page, what you do is you actually try your own voice out with the video. makes me wonder why the folks at bandai put that extra in there, maybe they know its a really bad dub

[Zapages]

you guys wanna know something? in dvd #2 (or was it #1?), theres an extra called "GOA dubbing academy" (not the exact title, but something along that line) where you can watch the video segements in mute with the script in the bottom of the page, what you do is you actually try your own voice out with the video. makes me wonder why the folks at bandai put that extra in there, maybe they know its a really bad dub

True and funny is someway :p :D

[Behonkiss]

Hmm, that gives me a neat idea.

You know how the Shrek DVD has a PC feature that lets you record your voice in a scene? Maybe other anime discs could do something like this. The anime style of lip flaps is much easier to synch with than smooth CGI;.

*Spike runs in sounding like a geeky 14-year-old*
Hold i-
*Villain dies of laughter*

[KingKoopa]

Originally posted by Artemis
I heard a rumor that the japanese company that made PC was involved with the dubbing.




Could that have been the problem? :confused: If I am correct, and I believe I am, they were not only involved in the dubbing, they were responsible for it. They wrote the DVDs, that much I know for a fact, as they're the ones who put the dub script on the subtitled track (if you're watching the Japanese subbed version, you're not reading the most accurate translation they could have provided, you're reading the dub script). If they had the dub script to put on the DVDs, and the fact that they're doing the DVDs altogether, is evidence that its true, they at least had a major role in the dubbing.

But Animaze and Ocean Group weren't responsible for the dubbing, although they may have loaned actors.

[PPRyan]

Originally posted by AFXanatos
     I'm not sure it is as much of a case of the dub being bad as much as Pilot Candidate being bad in general. The problems to me seem to be with lack of character development and a well defined plot. These kids are going through training and that seems to about it. I don't sense any real threat from victim, the goddesses seem to take care of them without too much trouble each time.

I'd have to agree here. It really looks like Pilot Candidate is truly an awful anime. The greatest voice actors in the world couldn't save this show from sucking as much as it does. As I said earlier, a poor plot, undeveloped characters, and terrible computer animation do NOT make a good cartoon. :D

[Jake]

I too hate PC, very much in fact, but I think we should bash it less. It has to be so frustrating for the people who enjoy PC and have to put up with our constant bashing. At my school, I've told people I like the show Cowboy Bebop - big mistake. Most people can't even get past the name ("I'll bet it's about men who wear cowboy hats and have se* in a swimming pool!"). My point is, I know what it's like to have people mindlessly bash a show just because they don't like the show...or it's name. :(

[Sheamon]

Originally posted by Sandoz
What's sad is that the PC dub was brought to us by the same company that dubbed Cowboy Bebop... :o

Same actors, but not same company. Just like with Love Hina, it obviously shows -_-

[Zechs]

Yeah the dub realy sucks. The whole thing is kinda bad but hopefuly it won't stay on too long.

[Dark Spider]

I don't think the dub sucks. Its true that I'm very annoyed by Zero's voice, but they did a good job with his voice because his annoying voice fits his annoying personality.

The show itself sucks. It has little to no plot. Seriously, what is the show leading up into? Will the show just end when Zero (obviously) becomes a Goddess Pilot? Will there be some climax to Zero and the gray haired kid's(forgot his name) feud? The show sure doesn't make it out to be.

[ohmrbill]

I think the company that dubbed it is just incompetent (again, not talking about the VA's here). They also tried to pull the whole dubtitles thing with the Love Hina DVD's (they didn't succeed, though).

[VinceA]

Seriously, what is the show leading up into?
This quote from Animerica should help with that:
"...that's right, Pilot Candidate ends on a cliffhanger. So far the series has yet to be finished in Japan, though rumors of a second season persist."
http://www.animerica-mag.com/features/10.04/pilotcandidate.html

[Fata Morgana]

Originally posted by Jake
At my school, I've told people I like the show Cowboy Bebop - big mistake. Most people can't even get past the name

http://www.jazzmess.com/name.html


("I'll bet it's about men who wear cowboy hats and have se* in a swimming pool!").

Man, your friends are idiots. Sounds like it's time to get some new ones. :p

Fata Morgana

[Epyon999]

Maybe dubbing companies only due a good job on anime that did very good in Japan because they predict that it will do good here in america. That way they can save money just by doing a good job on what they predict will be a hit, then to a poor job on series they don't expect to do good.

[Jude Santos]

whats even sadder is this show DOES NOT have an ending.

PS: o yeah, xebec somehow decided to release the unaired tv episode 13 (curiculum 12) in japan on april.

[livingfruitvirus]

That's because PC went back into production in Japan.

[Jude Santos]

so are they gonna make more , or wrap it up on the 13th episode?

[livingfruitvirus]

They're making more episodes.

[Sailor Namek]

Is it just me, or does Zero's voice sound like Tai, or someone like that from Digimon? Does anyone know why he sounds familiar?

[Zapages]

I think they are the same VAs for both characters...

[Sailor Namek]

That's what I was wondering...and if anyone else had noticed.

[Artemis]

The person who did the voice of Tai from Digimon (Joshua Seth) also does the voice of Zero. He just happens to be using an alias for PC for some reason (maybe he doesn't want his name associated with such a horrible show :D ).

[Jake]

Man, your friends are idiots. Sounds like it's time to get some new ones.

They're not bad, just ignorant.

[Cactusjack1999]

I've seen the Manga (Which PC is originally) and the show at least could at least go to episode 30 or so. Either the rest of the series hasn't been produced yet or they just gave up on it I'll never know.

I mean I myself could see the series going a nice amount of time if more episdoes ever get made. I mean they have to end the series, as it stands it's a cliffhanger. I mean Judging from the opening Zero DOES become a pilot for the White Goddess, I mean you can't finish 3 years of a series in a little under 6 episodes without major plot holes, continuity problems and etc.

And yes I do think that Zero's voice was all wrong. I mean there are 2 extremes in Anime dubbing I can pul;l from now.

The Light extreme is Tai/Zero
The Heavy Extreme is Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh (Sounds WAY too adult to me)

If the voice was somewhere in the middle that would be better

(For info on the Manga nad the rest of hte series go here: http://www.narutohouse.com/megami/ or here: http://www.arisugawa.net/goddess/)

[Gyro]

I don't think the show would be any better if it was subbed. It already sucks.

[Zechs]

Yeah it would still be the same crappy show. Nomatter what language put it in

[Fayina]

Strangely, I am finding myself actually enjoying Pliot Candidate. Sure... it is incredibally awful with tons of problems. The dubbing is awful, the story is predictable, it has no ending, and it is just plain weird! Despite all of that... I am still enjoying it. I don't go out of my way to be home in time to watch and I don't impatiently wait for it to air each week like I do with YYH...but I am still enjoying it. There is something I like about it. I guess I am just weird or something... I seem to find something I like in all badly dubbed animes. :)

[William C. Maune]

"That's because PC went back into production in Japan."

Where did you hear this?

[Tmansdc]

ah come on, this show isn't the worst ever, it's just so confusing, that 's it's main problem.

[Momijii]

Originally posted by Zechs
Yeah the dub realy sucks. The whole thing is kinda bad but hopefuly it won't stay on too long.

I have no problem with the dub, sure it's not the best but geez your taking something from another country and finding a right voice to go with the character is what I say kinda hard to find.

[Koggit]

I wouldn't want to see it subbed or uncut, either. I don't have a problem with the dub (which sucks), or the plot (which isn't there), or the edits (which are ridiculous, even for Toonami). My problem comes from the males of the series.

They wear girlier clothes than the girls for Christs sake!

Come on, who really wants to watch a show with guys that look like girls, running around in spandex daisy-dukes?

The name change was more than pointless, as well. It was a tad misleading, but no more than the appearance of the charicters!

[ohmrbill]

Originally posted by Momijii


I have no problem with the dub, sure it's not the best but geez your taking something from another country and finding a right voice to go with the character is what I say kinda hard to find.

Nah, they just weren't trying.

[randomguy]

You can only do so much with crappy source material.

[VinceA]

Actually the name change from "Candidate for Goddess" to "Pilot Candidate" makes a little sense. At least you know what the girly-boys are a working to be - pilots not goddesses (well, with those shorts you never know)

[Depth Charge]

Originally posted by Fayina
Strangely, I am finding myself actually enjoying Pliot Candidate. Sure... it is incredibally awful with tons of problems. The dubbing is awful, the story is predictable, it has no ending, and it is just plain weird! Despite all of that... I am still enjoying it. I don't go out of my way to be home in time to watch and I don't impatiently wait for it to air each week like I do with YYH...but I am still enjoying it. There is something I like about it. I guess I am just weird or something... I seem to find something I like in all badly dubbed animes. :)

You are not weird, I too enjoy PC to a point. I just seem to enjoy the fun-lighthearted part of it. Unlike Bebop (the best), there is an incredible lack of action, and it is very predictable. The only satisfaction I derive from PC is the fun looking uniforms those boys wear. Sure, they are very girly, but the uniforms make them look more heavenly, like... there is something up in space protecting us. I wish I looked and was more heavenly... like MagnaAngemon

...

errr...(oops, lost focus)

This show is just something to watch and not expect gold. If you want to analyze symbolism or see action, watch the other shows.... this show is just there to put a smile on your face. Watch it, and say "Ok, it's over, how fun." That's my view. :D

[Zechs]

Yeah it's ok but they need a little depth if they are trying to be comedy. And just what is this suposed to be Comedy or drama?

[kaine23]

What's sad is that the PC dub was brought to us by the same company that dubbed Cowboy Bebop...

You win some, you loose some. Animerica had a feature about PC in their latest issue actually.

[Nitrowax]

wa..........?

[Beat]

It means that not all anime is good. PC was probably an O.K. idea, but it just became idiotic through planning. The story was just pointless.

Questions from someone watching it for the first time.

Where the hell does Victim come from?

Why don't the humans find where Victim came from, and eradicate its home?

What's the point of the Goddesses?

The answer is "no one knows", and when that's the answer, there's a problem.

[Ajax]

Originally posted by Artemis
In this day and age, in a world where good dubs have finally surfaced and where nearly every anime out there has gotten a good dub, how in the world did Pilot Candidate's incredibly horrible oh-so-terrible dub escape from the seventh dimension of hell?! I mean, really!

Is there any reason for this? :p

Well lets start by saying that there has been countless animes whos dubs have been horrible. Salior Moon being the most famous victim and Cradcaptors who's dub is a piece of crap. The list goes on, even DBZ has had its share of bad dubs. To answer your question, there is no such thing as a perfect dub and we must live with it. Of course thats just my opinon, I could be wrong.


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