The Avengers: EMH "The Casket of Ancient Winters" Talkback (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

Discuss this all-new episode of The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes debuting today at 10:00am (ET) on Disney XD!

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Episode Premiere Date - May 15th, 2011
On the hottest day of the year, an ancient artifact is found… and a cold wind blows. An ancient Asgardian relic called the Casket of Ancient Winters has been opened, and the entire planet goes into a deep freeze. But as the rest of the Avengers deal with an invasion of Dark Elves and demons, Iron Man and Thor must put aside their differences to battle Malekith the Accursed.

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[Medinnus]

Someday I'm going to have to figure out how long it takes Quinjets to fly to Norway. Fortunately, its all make-believe or else Mankind would have frozen to death in the 6 hours at mach speeds. :D

Not to mention how many things broke from the temperature shift from 90's to sub-zero, but I digress.

[kid rabbit]

the casket of winters was in the thor movie
I got to say good timing

[Rick Jones]

They replaced the theme song with a Nick Fury voiceover. Interesting... Figured they'd cut down on the opening eventually but didn't expect this approach.

Cap is also called the first avenger in that voiceover, getting some movie promo out of the way.

This wasn't a bad standalone episode. It's always fun to see some more Asgardian elements like Malekith and the Casket brought into the mix. I always like seeing how superheroes use their downtime so it's fun seeing Wasp, Hulk and Hawkeye enjoying the rooftop pool (the one mentioned way back in Some Assembly Required). While the main story was focused on Thor and Iron Man butting heads and working things out in order to save the day, it was still great to see the entire team taking part in the action, along with the assists from the Torch, Thing, and Ultron.

[Avengers]

awesome episode i really like malekith as a villain he actually seemed really threaghtening

I hope the casket will actually be used for something and not just fall into the creaters minds, loki should have a perpous for needing it

[trance2009]

I did like how they're somewhat alluding to the movie with Thor being locked out of Asgard on that cliffhanger.

[jph139]

I really liked the ending. Everyone learns a lesson, friends stop fighting, moral is given, WHAM GIANT AXE OUT OF NOWHERE.

Not a bad episode by any means - love the cameos and such with everyone in the city - but not my favorite. I am wondering what Loki plans to do with the Casket, though...

[Medinnus]

Not a bad episode by any means - love the cameos and such with everyone in the city - but not my favorite. I am wondering what Loki plans to do with the Casket, though...

Perhaps he needeth it to hold his buttermilk so it doth spoil not?

[dmxx116]

Not feeling the new intro at all, like the song much better and they pretty neglect BP, Hawkeye, Hank & Wasp. Its apparently more focused on the big 4 it seems. But it going to take some time to get use to.

[macattack]

Did anyone notice that this was the first episode to have Jeph Loeb in the credits?

And, all of a sudden, the cheesy-awesome theme song has been mostly replaced by an awkward (and needlessly jingoistic) Nick Fury voiceover that neglects half of the Avengers?

Yeah, welcome to the Jeph Loeb era of Marvel animation. This is just the start of the disaster (if you don't include NEARLY EVERY PRE-EXISTING SHOW BEING CANCELLED anyway).

[Rick Jones]

Yeah, welcome to the Jeph Loeb era of Marvel animation. This is just the start of the disaster (if you don't include NEARLY EVERY PRE-EXISTING SHOW BEING CANCELLED anyway).
Well, aren't you the optimist ? :)

I wonder if this will remain the default opening or if it will just be used when they start things up with a "Previously on..." segment that eats up a little more of the runtime.

[Gold Guy]

This was a fun episode. It wasn't the best, but it kept me entertained for 20 minutes, and it didn't have any boring scenes, so mission accomplished.

Heh, Hulk in the pool was funny.

[HEATXZ]

Great episode :anime:
I had great action scenes and Wasp in a bikini :anime:

[Mr. Hypocrite]

I watched all these eps already (I was surprised to find they'd already aired) but it's nice that their showing them now.

A new intro huh? That's odd. Must be promoting all the new movies.

Panther seems to have an edge being well versed in both magic and science. It gives him a broader thinking pattern than Iron man, or even Thor.

Also, never leave Hulk in a frozen pool.:D

[CyclonatorZ]

Seriously? They replaced one of the greatest title sequences of modern superhero animation with a Nick Fury voice-over that only covers the four Avengers that have their own feature length movies? If this doesn't scream "executive meddling," I don't know what does. :shrug:

[Aquaman OS]

The overseas airings had the usual opening.

I guess they really did hold off airing the season to use it to promote the films.

Still I won't get too broken up over it, so long as they have the intro back next season.

[Avengers]

There is this one scene in the episode where tony and thor are arguing in stark's office and the screen is focusing on them when out of no where panther just stands in the middle with this huge smile, funniest thing of all time

Also I love some of the lines in this show like
"You left Hulk in the pool...IT FROZE!"

"Only Odin knows where the kasket is---Earth seems like a likely location (while sporting the best smile ever)"

[King_of_doom]

Like Dan from Dan VS. say "FINALLY" I do agree on the opening, they should've kept it and for the episode was really good, especially since you see villains that are not well known (i for one didn't know about Malekith) i like the interaction between Tony and Thor where Thor only see destruction and horrible experiments on technology and Tony doesn't have anything good to say about magic and i like Black Panther being the one of reason so the 2 of them work together and combine both of their abilities to defeat Malekith.

Anyway nice episode, without the theme song sucks but still we finally get to see the Avengers also a nice fanservice on Wasp.

[RoyalRubble]

Finally the new batch of episodes of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is here, after a four month long hiatus. Was it worth the wait? Definitely. :D

This episode brings us another villain from the Mighty Thor's "gallery of rogues", Malekith the Accursed (voiced by Quinton Flynn, who has previously voiced the Human Torch in the second season of the Fantastic Four series from 1994). Here, he has allied himself with Amora the Enchantress and Skurge the Executioner, to obtain for them a mystical artifact called the Casket of Ancient Winters which, when opened can unleash an endless winter. Once he gets his hands on this weapon, he turns against Amora and Skurge and freezes both of them, planning on freezing the entire planet. Malekith's real goal being the resurrection of his fellow dark elves on Earth, where he plans to rule. He is a real threat, as he cannot be beaten too easily and on top of that, he's creepy. Speaking of creepy, I didn't expect the scenes of those vikings (or were they supposed to be Asgardians?) frozen in that cave.

The scenes featuring the Avengers in the beginning of the episode are pretty funny, especially seeing Jan, Clint and even the Hulk relaxing by the pool, and trying to ignore an emergency call from Iron Man, asking them for help against the Radioactive Man, who has attacked Stark Towers. Iron Man isn't alone, though. He has Thor and Black Panther by his side, and they do manage to defeat him. The tension between Iron Man and Thor regarding their conflicting views about technology and magic is handled well (and there have been many hints about this along the series so far, so this doesn't feel like it's happening too suddenly). Thor believes technology is evil, and is only capable of hurting people, thus he prefers to use magic; on the other hand, Iron Man just doesn't believe in magic, and when he sees what magic is capable of he declares he hates it. It will ultimately take Black Panther to teach them that science and mysticism should work together, in order to accomplish things neither one could do alone. Once they agree to work together, they easily stop Malekith and close the Casket.

While the episode focuses more on Iron Man and Thor, the other Avengers get their fair share of screen-time as well, fighting ice creatures and ghosts (or whatever those things were) released by Malekith in the city during the others absence. Captain America shows off more of his fighting skills, Ant-Man is once again aided by a Ultron unit (possibly still foreshadowing some future events), and the Hulk has a pretty amusing line when he finally arrives to the battle, "You left Hulk in the pool. It froze!". The fight scenes were well executed, as usually, but this time Captain America's stood out more to me, especially seeing him use his shield as a snowboard. Plus, we get two more cameo appearances in this episode, from the Human Torch (saving Cap's life with a fire blast and writing "You owe me one" with flames in the sky ... pretty typical of Johnny Storm), and the Thing, who gets the chance to clobber some of the ice creatures as well. Seeing how we got a cameo from Mr. Fantastic in one of the previous episodes, all that's missing now is seeing the Invisible Woman in action on this show (I didn't expect to see H.E.R.B.I.E. before her).

As always the series has a near-perfect balance between action-adventure and comedy, and this episode is no exception. There are plenty of amusing scenes mixed between all the fighting and character development. Hulk's aforementioned line; Hawkeye thinking about moving the team to the West Coast (a not so subtle nod to the "West Coast Avengers" comic book series from the mid-80s); even Malekith got one funny line this episode, mentioning how Iron Man's armor contains only a small portion of actual iron; and last but not least the banter between Iron Man and Thor throughout the episode. On another note, the new armor Iron Man and the new outfit Black Panther wore during this mission were cool. We also get to see Jan in a yellow bikini in the beginning of the episode, which isn't all that important but still somewhat noteworthy. :p

Overall this was another great installment of this series, which also continues the on-going plot that Loki is plotting something big back in Asgard. Thor not being able to return to his homeland might be all part of Loki's master plan, as was the Casket of Ancient Winters which the Enchantress gets back at the end of the episode. I'm definitely looking forward to the next episodes. The show has had some awesome moments until now, and I still have a feeling that the best is yet to come.

[Medinnus]

Seeing how we got a cameo from Mr. Fantastic in one of the previous episodes, all that's missing now is seeing the Invisible Woman in action on this show (I didn't expect to see H.E.R.B.I.E. before her).

Well, she could have been in the shots... how would we know? :D

[Dragnatek]

Did anyone notice that this was the first episode to have Jeph Loeb in the credits?

And, all of a sudden, the cheesy-awesome theme song has been mostly replaced by an awkward (and needlessly jingoistic) Nick Fury voiceover that neglects half of the Avengers?

Yeah, welcome to the Jeph Loeb era of Marvel animation. This is just the start of the disaster (if you don't include NEARLY EVERY PRE-EXISTING SHOW BEING CANCELLED anyway).

This is a joke post right? I mean this time of doom talk is way too early. I love the old intro as much as the next person but to act like this is the beginning of the end for Marvel animation? Not in the slightest.

As long as Leob does not start writing every Marvel cartoon I'm not worried.

[Avengers]

I think it will be gone for next episode, as long as they listen to their fan base anyway

[Medinnus]

This is a joke post right? I mean this time of doom talk is way too early. I love the old intro as much as the next person but to act like this is the beginning of the end for Marvel animation? Not in the slightest.

As long as Leob does not start writing every Marvel cartoon I'm not worried.

Well, first of all, there is no sense in getting bent out of shape yet - if it is the beginning of a downward spiral, lets bear in mind that re-doing a voice-over on the intro is easy, changing stuff around in the actual episodes would be expensive, considering Season Two is already done.

So, if Jeph was out to sabotage things with his best efforts (chew on that sentence for a short bit), it won't manifest until Season Three, if we're lucky enough to get a Season Three.


I think it will be gone for next episode, as long as they listen to their fan base anyway

As for the "listening to the fans" bit... short of organizing a physical letter campaign, there is not a single creative group that doesn't dismiss the opinions of a handful of fans on message boards. For every vocal group that hates something, there are another group that defends that something. I'm not saying that they are right nor wrong to dismiss small groups of fan consensus (not that we ever get as far as 'consensus' :D ), but right or wrong, thats what they do - unless citing it lets them do what they want to do anyways.

I agree -- with no real data, just feeling -- that this is a marketing "bright idea" to maximize the movie marketing effort, and may continue until shortly after the Captain America movie launches. It'll be interesting to see if its this way on the iTunes download, when they release it.

[Webbed-Wonder]

I wonder if the new intro and the recap were done to get new viewers up to speed quickly.

[Munkiman]

I think they just added the new intro to recap since no new episodes have come out in forever, and they'll return to the normal intro next week.

[TheVileOne]

LOL NOW all you like the theme song and miss it? :anime:

If this were the Underground forum, right about now would be the time to bust out

Oh the ironing!

[Azrayel]

Nice return episode and it was perfect timingwith the Thor movie. I hated this Nick Fury opening. I would have thought they had a new opening (with differnt fight scenes) with the new costumes they showed pictures off. Hopefully it's just a one time thing and is only a recap to fill in the viewers.

Wasp looked pretty good in that bikini, now all she needs to a better hairstlye (longer hair I'd apperciate)

The Human Torch andThing making appearences and Thing saying his signature quote I give a thumbs up to that.

[Munkiman]

LOL NOW all you like the theme song and miss it? :anime:

If this were the Underground forum, right about now would be the time to bust out

Oh the ironing!
I am shocked that anyone ever disliked the theme song, it is seriously the best. It's always cooler when shows have a theme song with words you can obsessively memorize.


Wasp looked pretty good in that bikini, now all she needs to a better hairstlye (longer hair I'd apperciate)

Short hair rocks, dude! And it's such a great modernizing of her 60s hairstyle.

[Vampire_King]

did ant-man appear in this episode at all?
i think i saw captain america but no ant-man in sight

[Rick Jones]

did ant-man appear in this episode at all?
i think i saw captain america but no ant-man in sight

Ant Man was using Ultron to combat the ice monsters.

[Medinnus]

OK, the iTunes version of the episode has the standard opening, no voice-over.

Episode thoughts:

* Hawkeye grew up in a place so poor that he had to insert the arrows manually.

* When Thor feels the wave of the Casket of Ancient Winters and staggers, Iron Man asks what's wrong. I so wanted him to say "I felt a disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of souls were destroyed at once.... nah, just kidding. Magic, Dark Magic!":

* More armor variants! "Icebreaker Armor!"

* Is that a new costume for the Black Panther, or a camouflage function of his normal outfit, or perhaps the color change is a reaction to the thermal adjustments the suit makes to keep him warm?

[macattack]

This is a joke post right? I mean this time of doom talk is way too early. I love the old intro as much as the next person but to act like this is the beginning of the end for Marvel animation? Not in the slightest.

As long as Leob does not start writing every Marvel cartoon I'm not worried.

After you read Ultimates 3, Ultimatum, and his run on the Incredible Hulk (aka the infamous "Red Hulk" run), let's see you have any faith in anything his name's attached to.

Just try.

Though I will admit that after the Red Hulk fiasc-I mean "mystery", I have developed a bit of a complex about the guy.

[Medinnus]

Though I will admit that after the Red Hulk fiasc-I mean "mystery", I have developed a bit of a complex about the guy.

Unlike BENDIS, whose MU work I can't stand, but whose Ultimate and Indy work I enjoyed, I have never liked Loeb's writing in comics; I can't speak to his TV work as I don't know that I've seen much. Still, while comics are one set of creative directives, TV is a lot more collaborative (or so my understanding goes). So we'll see.

[macattack]

Unlike BENDIS, whose MU work I can't stand, but whose Ultimate and Indy work I enjoyed, I have never liked Loeb's writing in comics; I can't speak to his TV work as I don't know that I've seen much. Still, while comics are one set of creative directives, TV is a lot more collaborative (or so my understanding goes). So we'll see.

Well, Jeph Loeb was also the producer (and a writer) for Heroes, from the acclaimed first season until he was fired in the third after the show took its infamous plunge in quality.

[90'sCartoonMan]

That was a fun episode. With the team so large, it's good to be able to focus on a couple heroes while the rest of the team manages a larger disaster. I like the Thor vs. Tony conflict, although I wish Tony was a bit more...clever with his come backs.

Malekith's a pretty sweet villain, and I really dug the surprise at the end of the episode. Torch and Thing cameos were fun, but I think the most important lesson in this episode is to NEVER leave Hulk in the pool!


the casket of winters was in the thor movie
I got to say good timing

I say bad timing if it was the movie that made them sit on this episode for months. Although, I did like the idea of cross promotion.


I am shocked that anyone ever disliked the theme song, it is seriously the best. It's always cooler when shows have a theme song with words you can obsessively memorize.

I typically prefer instrumental theme songs, but shows like this and Teen Titans have made me somewhat rethink that position.

[TemporalFlux]

After you read Ultimates 3, Ultimatum, and his run on the Incredible Hulk (aka the infamous "Red Hulk" run), let's see you have any faith in anything his name's attached to.

Just try.

But...but...Jeph wrote "Teen Wolf"!

[Crash]

Hey, Clint made a shout-out to hte West Coast Avengers! But, man, his costume sure leads to some heavy tan lines.... While his bantering with Jan was rather funny, it did somewhat undercut his persona as a consumate professional that he had previously developed.... What with him taking down hordes of baddies, on his own and with the team, saving the team on multiple occassions, accurately critiqueing the others on T'Challa's embassasy.... Oh well.

I did enjoy Thor and Iron Man's bantering, though.

[ktk]

LOL NOW all you like the theme song and miss it? :anime:

I've been defending that theme song for a while, so of course I missed it. The new opening was a bit of a letdown, but nothing awful.

The recap, however, is usually a good thing. It makes you think you're watching something important and/or well-written.


* Is that a new costume for the Black Panther, or a camouflage function of his normal outfit, or perhaps the color change is a reaction to the thermal adjustments the suit makes to keep him warm?

I was wondering about that too. I don't think that was his regular suit. I think it was a thermal suit, similar to Iron Man's mission-specific armor.


Overall, I really enjoyed this episode (as usual). The "oh no, we forgot about the Enchantress" ending was a great one. Hawkeye's tan lines were funny. Nice to see the Torch/Thing cameo to show other heroes defending the Marvel Universe from attack, similar to the Black Knight appearance during the Kang arc.


One complaint, and a major one at that: Radioactive Man is attacking, and when Hawkeye and Wasp are asked to help, they decide not to? Huh? What type of lousy teamwork is that? Now obviously Clint and Jan aren't going to be terribly helpful against someone like Radioactive Man, but they were hanging out right there with the Hulk, and they could have easily dragged him along. Hulk would've obviously been useful against Radioactive Man. Seems like pretty poor form or lousy teamwork from those two.


Back to the positive for one final thought: I really liked the idea that Black Panther was a middle ground between the scientific and the mystical when Thor and Iron Man were going back and forth.

[90'sCartoonMan]

One complaint, and a major one at that: Radioactive Man is attacking, and when Hawkeye and Wasp are asked to help, they decide not to? Huh? What type of lousy teamwork is that?

It was a funny moment, let's not read into it. As Crash pointed out, Hawkeye is very dedicated to tracking down all the escaped criminals. They knew it was Radioactive Man, and they knew Iron Man, Thor, and Black Panther were there. I'm sure Hawkeye figured by the time they suited up and got over there, the threat would've been dealt with already.

[Medinnus]

It was a funny moment, let's not read into it. As Crash pointed out, Hawkeye is very dedicated to tracking down all the escaped criminals. They knew it was Radioactive Man, and they knew Iron Man, Thor, and Black Panther were there. I'm sure Hawkeye figured by the time they suited up and got over there, the threat would've been dealt with already.

You remind me of a comic misprint joke. Back in the day, Marvel Team Up (essentially Spidey + Guest Star) was so popular They tried it on the Thing in a new comic called Marvel Two In One.

Except someone forgot the name when lettering, and in the small print on the cover where the title lived on the marque (sp), it was called "Marvel Two On One".

:D

[JTMarsh]

From Jan's bikini to the Human Torch & Thing guest spots to former Human Torch voice actor Quinton Flynn as Malekith a great episode.

Oh and Hulk complaining that he got frozen in the pool = LOL.

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[Choppasmith]

Hey, Clint made a shout-out to hte West Coast Avengers! But, man, his costume sure leads to some heavy tan lines.... While his bantering with Jan was rather funny, it did somewhat undercut his persona as a consumate professional that he had previously developed.... What with him taking down hordes of baddies, on his own and with the team, saving the team on multiple occassions, accurately critiqueing the others on T'Challa's embassasy.... Oh well.

I did enjoy Thor and Iron Man's bantering, though.

Yeah I have to say I squee'd a little after hearing that nod to WCA. And wow, all that time I thought it was Hank and Jan at the pool. Kinda confusing when Clint doesn't have his trademark mask on. I guess I was a little too focused on Jan's bikini. Seriously, she was sporting some nice well endowed assets there, I was surprised Disney XD let it pass after seeing Enchantress' cleavage/design from Hulk vs Thor getting toned down to something more modest (though, I figured that they were also trying to tailor her design toward her early appearances in the comics, so no biggie there).

And yeah, glad to hear the regular intro is in the itunes releases and this was likely a quick edit for runtime. After spending several hours making an MLP parody of the original intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTGRRdDK3k), it sorta bummed me that such a lazy, stripped down rehash would become the standard intro for later episodes.

Oh and Fantastic Four appearance, Hell yeah! It would be nice if they have some team up appearances to make up for the lack of a F4 series on the air at the moment. Does anyone know who voiced Ben? Sounds like his SHS voice to me.

[Medinnus]

And yeah, glad to hear the regular intro is in the itunes releases and this was likely a quick edit for runtime. After spending several hours making an MLP parody of the original intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTGRRdDK3k), it sorta bummed me that such a lazy, stripped down rehash would become the standard intro for later episodes.

OK, that was seriously funny. Two thumbs up, man! :D

[Manhunter]

Oh and Fantastic Four appearance, Hell yeah! It would be nice if they have some team up appearances to make up for the lack of a F4 series on the air at the moment. Does anyone know who voiced Ben? Sounds like his SHS voice to me.

Fred Tatasciore voiced Ben here. If they ever do a Hulk vs. Thing episode, it would be one of the best examples of a voice actor talking to himself.

[CyclonatorZ]

This was a fun episode, even if it didn't pack the same punch as some of the other final 7 episodes (particularly Hail Hydra and the two Ultron ones). We get some more insight into the Nine Realms of Asgard, neat cameos of Radioactive Man and two of the Fantastic Four, and some development of the relationship between Iron Man and Thor. Black Panther continues to be a cool addition to the team, as he's a rare character within the Marvel Universe that treads the realms of science and magic with equal balance. If there were any real faults, it would be that Malekith's voice was not as threatening as I would have liked. However...

if you follow the season to its conclusion, you'll see that the cliffhanger with Enchantress and the Executioner sadly doesn't really entail much for the future, as the Casket of Ancient Winters only serves as a minor distraction for the Avengers before they reunite for the finale.

[supergirl's pal]

I had great action scenes and Wasp in a bikini :anime:

Which is why this episode earned five stars from me. ;)
If Hasbro ever gets around to making a figure line for this show, "Bikini Action Wasp" will be on the top of my wish list. :cool:

[Burgundy Ranger]

Not feeling the new intro at all, like the song much better and they pretty neglect BP, Hawkeye, Hank & Wasp. Its apparently more focused on the big 4 it seems. But it going to take some time to get use to.
Same with me on that. I caught something else in watching the 2nd episode that seems more fitting to comment on here.

In referring to Thor, they use the phrase "prince of thunder" .... clearly an attempt -- and ill-advised one, if you ask me -- to avoid backlash from those offended by using the G-word.

But he is what he is. And to not use it is unfortunate.

[Dorko]

Not feeling the new intro at all, like the song much better and they pretty neglect BP, Hawkeye, Hank & Wasp. Its apparently more focused on the big 4 it seems. But it going to take some time to get use to.

Its not great, but it is clearly part of Marvel's push towards the movie. The Thor and Captain America toys are branded with a little "Avengers Assemble" logo that features Thor, Cap, and Iron Man (the toys still on the shelves). Hopefully, Hawkeye at least will get more focus after the movie.

[90'sCartoonMan]

After spending several hours making an MLP parody of the original intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTGRRdDK3k), it sorta bummed me that such a lazy, stripped down rehash would become the standard intro for later episodes.

Haha, nice job!

[suss2it]

I thought this was pretty good episode. It was nice to see Black Panther finally talk more.

The tech vs magic debate Iron Man & Thor had going on was fun and interesting, but Black Panther definitely has it the best, what with best of both worlds and all that.

Hawkeye was the leader for the West Coast Avengers right? That was a nice shout out to them.

It was also nice to see Human Torch & The Thing again, I'm guessing the whole Fantastic Four is going to show up pretty soon. Definitely looking forward to that. Hopefully down the road the X-Men will also show their faces.

Malekith the Accursed was a fun villain. Didn't know about him before, so it's nice to see that Thor has some other villains beyond Loki and the Enchantress. Was he supposed to be half Frost-Giant? I also liked Enchantress & Executioner attacking at the end. I completely forgot those two were even there. Can't wait to see what other trouble that Casket causes.

[Medinnus]

It was also nice to see Human Torch & The Thing again, I'm guessing the whole Fantastic Four is going to show up pretty soon.



They appear in the first episode of the second season, entitled "The Private War of Dr. Doom" or something or other.




Malekith the Accursed was a fun villain. Didn't know about him before, so it's nice to see that Thor has some other villains beyond Loki and the Enchantress. Was he supposed to be half Frost-Giant? I also liked Enchantress & Executioner attacking at the end.

In AEMH, Malekith was the leader of the Svart Alfar, the Black Elves. He and his people were killed, and now dwell in Hela's realm of the damned (in Norse myth, you either belong to Valhalla as one of the honored dead, or Niffleheim under Loki's daughter, Hela). Given that the Casket of Ancient Winters can only be found by the dead, Hela released Malekith into Loki's service, and then Malekith betrayed Loki, trying to use the Casket to conquer Midgard (Earth!) and bring his people's spirits back.

[JLU Dude]

Did anyone notice that this was the first episode to have Jeph Loeb in the credits?

And, all of a sudden, the cheesy-awesome theme song has been mostly replaced by an awkward (and needlessly jingoistic) Nick Fury voiceover that neglects half of the Avengers?

Yeah, welcome to the Jeph Loeb era of Marvel animation. This is just the start of the disaster (if you don't include NEARLY EVERY PRE-EXISTING SHOW BEING CANCELLED anyway).

I think you're being a little harsh on Loeb for something that night've been out of his hands and for ultimately a trivial matter. Given that the opening for The Spectacular Spider-Man was truncated on Disney XD and how Weisman said Cartoon Network wanted the short opening for Young Justice, it might've been Disney XD's doing to going with a different and shorter opening.

[Venom Melendez]

Did anyone notice that this was the first episode to have Jeph Loeb in the credits?

And, all of a sudden, the cheesy-awesome theme song has been mostly replaced by an awkward (and needlessly jingoistic) Nick Fury voiceover that neglects half of the Avengers?

Yeah, welcome to the Jeph Loeb era of Marvel animation. This is just the start of the disaster (if you don't include NEARLY EVERY PRE-EXISTING SHOW BEING CANCELLED anyway).

His name was always in the credits, so no need to overreact.

They shortened it because of the " previously on" segment. There was a gap between episodes.

It'll probably be back by S2. Chill bro.

[dmxx116]

Malekith the Accursed unleashed cold winter on the entire planet that will send earth into a deep freeze. While the other Avengers are dealing with the Dark Elves and demons, It up to to Iron Man.Thor and Black Panther to stop Malekith the Accursed.

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/b0/4e3c4be6d8347.jpg

http://marvel.com/videos/watch/1958/the_avengers_emh_2010_season_1-_ep_20