Love Hina On Adult Swim?

[Mecha Washu]

I was curious but does anyone think Love Hina would apear on adult swim? theres basicly no nudity besides one quick flash which could be cut at ep. 26. Theres the occasional fan-service jiggle type thing but nothing more. Most of the first episodes are dubbed a lot tamer than the Japanese voice cast so I don't think CN would need to hire the english voice actors again to do voice overs.

[stanteau]

The dub has been toned down for a TV airing and I can't think of anything that would need to be edited.

BTW,there are only 24 TV episodes.There's a 25th TV OVA and some specials and OVA's after that,but BAndai only licensed the 24 TV eps.

[ohmrbill]

I don't think it'll really fit on AS.

It's entertaining, but there's not enough action to justify it being on ASA and it's not really the type of "funny" that would fit on ASC. Also, it's not really all that "adult."

[Shnay]

Here's a stupid question that I'm hoping someone will answer: What exactly is an OVA or TV OVA? I'm guessing it's some sort of mini movie for an anime series, but if someone can tell me for sure, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

[Mecha Washu]

OVA's have no limits meaning one episode can be as long or as short as the creator wants it to be, and theres no preset guidelines for what content they can have and not have. This means total freedom when making one. For example the Tenchi OAV's can run anywhere from 20 minutes episodes, to 25 minutes to 46 minutes to an hour, it all depends on the episode. OAV's are also done usally without any types of commerical bumbers, so one thing that can be tricky with OAV's is finding a good spot to slip in the commerical break and so on. TV OAV's were made for T.V with all episodes being around only 19 minutes of total program time allowing time for commerical breaks, they also have moments which are good points to insert commerical breaks and usally leave things at a semi tense moment. TV OAV's are also all ways much cleaner in content because believe it or not but in Japan their is still some censor ship on programming if its very explict. Another thing that T.V OAV's contain are filler episodes, ones that are either just back flashes of previous episodes, or filled with side stories where the characters end up reseting back to exactly how they were before another plot/character development happens. With OAV's its a complete on going story, for example theres only 12.5 episodes of Tenchi Muyo but I can say for a fact that theres 100x the character development in those 12.5 episodes because the episodes vary in time ranging from 20 minutes clear up to 40 minutes to help make everything feel really complete, where as in Tenchi Universe theres much less character development and when there is it sort of loses its effect because usally right before it happens theres a "Filler" type episode before it.

[TylerL]

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OVA (or OAV) stands for "Original Animation Video".
...or, better known in the US as a direct-to-video release.
Some series are released on video or DVD in Japan instead of airing on TV, like the original Tenchi Muyo! and Blue Sub 6.

[Sheamon]

Love Hina's hardly an 'adult' show. Unless you think having 18+ of the 24 episodes being nonscensical filler and the same exact jokes from the first episode being used over and over and over again to an insane extent (like Naru beating up Keitaro) is adult. Its hardly a quality show in the first place, a complete disgrace compared to the quite well done manga, and a show I hope never gets aired on TV ever. Putting this show on the block would be taking a step back.

[stanteau]

LH is the prime example of just a fun series.It's so damn much fun to watch.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Okay, I'll be the guy who says it this time:

Who cares, nothing else on AS is truly "adult" either.

[Mecha Washu]

I supose your right, who needs Love Hina when we have such other quality Y7 rated shows available such as Pilot Candidate and Gundam0083 :rolleyes: . Sorry but neither of the two can hold a candle to Love Hina, I think ANYTHING is a step forward once these two "Toonami-Hand-Me-Down's" shows are taken out of the line up.

[VinceA]

I've only seen the first four episodes (have discs 2 & 3 on order but they haven't been released yet) but I think it might make an OK addition to ASC (not ASA). It's more 'adult' than some things on ASC now.

[Jude Santos]

Love hina has a very bad dub (i liked it first)so i wouldnt want to see it on tv anyway (unless subbed which is very unlikely)

[Shnay]

Thanks to Mecha Washu and TylerL for dispensin' the knowledge. The idea of "total freedom" when making them sounds great; creativity shouldn't have to fit into 23 minute blocks.

[ohmrbill]

Originally posted by Fatal
Love hina has a very bad dub (i liked it first)so i wouldnt want to see it on tv anyway (unless subbed which is very unlikely)

Come to think of it, the Love Hina dub is done by the same group that did the Pilot Candidate dub (I'm not talking about VA's here), so I guess a bad dub is to be expected. What was their name again?

[Sheamon]

Bang Zoom I think. Although from what I've heard, Production IG (the guys who made Love Hina) had a lot of control over the dub, probably resulting in it being so bad. You'd figure with so many Animaze actors in there like Wendee Lee(who directed it), David Umansky, and Ruby Marlowe in there it would be pretty good, but nope :( Too bad, I was really looking forward to the dub even though I'm not much of a LH anime fan (love the manga though :p) only to hear 3 of the main characters right off the bat having some of the worst voices I've ever heard. Regardless of the content, I can certainly see the dub keeping it off the air (or from getting a good level of popularity if it makes it to the air)

[Andy Mancini]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo
Who cares, nothing else on AS is truly "adult" either.
"Cowboy Bebop" is, and maybe "Gundam 0083". That's about it.

[Koggit]

"TV OAV" is an oxymoron. It's either a TV episode, or an OAV episode. When the Spring and Christmas special (Both OAV's) were aired with the series on the second run to fill the two empty slots the second season had left, it was nearly 6 months after their release. The second set of OAV's (Love Hina Again), hasn't been aired on TV and probably won't, since they have a perfect 2 seasons.

Anyway, Love Hina sucks. I don't want to see it exist, much less exist on TV. It's by far the most over-rated peice of trash I've ever seen. It's unfunny, stereotypical, and predictable. The manga has more fan-service, and what they have is used in a more comedic way, but it's not much better than the anime.

[Ajax]

Yeah sure why not, ASA needs more viewers, and nothing like an Anime that shows chicks with big racks to keep the male viewer cming back for more.

Son, you tried your best and you failed miserably, the lesson is never try. -Homer Simspon

[stanteau]

Oh come on Koggit,feel the love.

Seriously though I don't know the appeal but I just love LH.It's retarted,cliche,and downright stupid but it's just such a friendly series.It's gotta be the off the wall whacky characters or something,just an addiction like Ranma or *Lum.Never was an MI fan which is odd since LH takes a lot of it's ideas.MI Just didn't have the comedic appeal and the romance aspect was nothing to get worked up over.

[bassist]

Originally posted by Fatal
Love hina has a very bad dub (i liked it first)so i wouldnt want to see it on tv anyway (unless subbed which is very unlikely)

If it were subbed, it would be less likely to atract the "younger" audience that Cartoon Network and even AS control.

it would truly make it more of an adult oriented block of shows, and might even bring some cultrue to the lives of Americans and non-Americans everwhere (who can afford cable).

-Big Ben

[Anyone00]

Bit OT:


Originally posted by Comic Book Guy
Yeah sure why not, ASA needs more viewers, and nothing like an Anime that shows chicks with big racks to keep the male viewer cming back for more.

That reminds me, the Read or Die OVA was recently licensed, might be good if ASA ever decided to show a few things as mini-series.
Sure the ability to control paper might seem like a lame super-power at first but the results don't lie.

[stanteau]

Read or die is an interesting little OVA.It has no backstory whatsoever and leaves almost everything unexplained but I'll be damned if it isn't entertaining as ****.For edits they'd DEFINATELY have to remove the pencil scene,you know which one.That's all I can think of.MAYBE the heart squeezing.

[Anyone00]

Probably need to read the manga for the back story.
After all it's a short OVA and not a full fledged series.

[Sir Gatts]

I don't think Love Hina would fit on ASA but I do think it can fit on ASC. That is unless they decide to create a ASD.

[VinceA]

It would fit perfectly on ASC (from what I've seen so far). The dub is already TV friendly (which is a bad thing if you're watching it on DVD but it would make broadcasting it easy)

[Sheamon]

I wouldn't say its that friendly, with the way they treated Keitaro, Kitsune, and Su's voices. I never thought I could hear dub voices as bad as the ones in DBZ. I was wrong.

[Killtacular]

Love Hina is the kind of show that would go on Toonami, not Adult Swim. It would probably get Tenchi-like editting, but thems the breaks. It's not for Adult Swim.

[DJRed]

Does ASA have to have all action? I mean Is The name As Action realy official?
If it's to adult for Toonami then I think it should go to the saturday run of AS, whether it has action or not.

[Sheamon]

Well, what do you think action means? :p Love Hina's in a hard place (disregard the quality for now) regarding CN's blocks. I'd say its certainly too immature to work on a real 'Adult Swim'. (although with them showing stuff like PC, who knows @_@) And Toonami's an action block that couldn't take Love Hina. As 'tame' as Tenchi might be in the action department, atleast it had some.

And why would you want it to go to the Saturday AS? That makes no sense. Its a comedy, it'd go on Sundays. Its 'Adult Swim Action'. Not 'Adult Swim Anime'.

[VinceA]

By "TV friendly" I meant that it was toned down content wise. If you watch the subs while listening to the dub you'll notice that a bit of Keitaro's acts are toned down (in the dub he doesn't mention the color of Naru's panties after getting belted down the hallway whereas it clearly says "Pink" in the subs) :)

[stanteau]

It'd fit perfect on ASC.Is Aqua Teens or sealab even remotely adult?Brack is downright childish.

[DJRed]

Originally posted by Sheamon
Its 'Adult Swim Action'. Not 'Adult Swim Anime'.

Well, actually I did think of it as AS Anime.
Which is why it seems like Love Hina should go there. Or even toonami. But that's more action also.
If only there were more Anime comedies. Then they could get there own block...

[bassist]

Originally posted by stanteau
It'd fit perfect on ASC.Is Aqua Teens or sealab even remotely adult?Brack is downright childish.

The act of using our maturity (something that is a farce among adults) to separate us from children is bullsh*t. The only reason why adults appear more mature is to gain control of the youth, and I'm sure all of you have laughed at something immature in the past.

Sure, Brak and sealab and ATHF all seem immature, but half the jokes in them you won't get if you're not 25 or really well read. Adult has nothing to do with maturity. Hell, most high schoolers are more mature than college students and adults. Then again, I may have a skewed view since 90% of Boulder are immature college students and old hippies still living in the 60s.

-Big Ben

[Killtacular]

You people need to stop judging the blocks by what they are now because what they are now is not what Williams Street's true vision is.

Adult Swim Action isn't some place to dump Toonami rejects on. Adult Swim Comedy isn't some place to dump Hanna-Barbera parodies on.

So why do they have them? BECAUSE WILLIAMS STREET HAS NO MONEY. They barely have enough funds to work from in their miniscule budget.

They were pressed for time in creating Adult Swim Action, and took time out of their lives to work OVERTIME, WITHOUT PAY, to make the ending to 0083 better than it would've been.

They didn't have the money to produce a traditional show for Adult Swim Comedy because they only had the funds to do limited animation. When Cartoon Network decided to give shows higher budgets, and animate through Cartoon Network Studios, only then would Adult Swim Comedy reach some potential. The Brak Show isn't the future of Adult Swim, and I know you guys know better than to say that it is, and is representative.

Adult Swim Action is Adult Swim Action. It will be for action cartoons, anime, whatever. They had to put PLACEHOLDERS there, but that's what they are. PLACEHOLDERS. Stop saying "Oh, they had PC on there, they can't be adult." It's not even going to be there in a year! So shut the hell up already! I'm sick of that crap.

There WILL be adult anime on Adult Swim Action. There WILL be more traditional animation on Adult Swim Comedy. So stop complaining!

And that's why Love Hina won't fit on Adult Swim Action or Comedy. It's not mature enough for either. It's a Toonami show, plain and simple. It would have to be editted, yes, but it's still a Toonami show. It's for that demographic. It's not for Adult Swim's intended demographic, which Williams Street will eventually target solely.

[stanteau]

Ummm,ATHF,Sealab,and Brak appear to be permanent shows for ASC.LH is way more mature than them (once you get past the first few episodes and the drama really kicks in) and the comedy *****in kills Brack and usually Sealab.

[VinceA]

LH wouldn't fit on Toonami at all (personal opinion) so if it's not adult enough for ASC then I guess CN doesn't need it... Oh well guess I have to enjoy it off the discs :)

[Mecha Washu]

Love Hina isnt even remotely Toonami material, I really doubt that the dialog would be able to hold the interests of the 10-12 year old viewers which make up most of the ratings for Toonami. If you were to remove the fan service and jokes thats all it would be, dialog and drama. Its pretty extream to say Love Hina isnt mature enough to be on adult swim, when currently even Cowboy Bebop has edits to it reducing blood when the uncut version isnt anything that would be too much for a 13 year old to watch.

[Killtacular]

Love Hina isnt even remotely Toonami material, I really doubt that the dialog would be able to hold the interests of the 10-12 year old viewers which make up most of the ratings for Toonami.

I'm sorry, but the biggest demographic for Toonami is a wider age range than that.


If you were to remove the fan service and jokes thats all it would be, dialog and drama.

a) Fanservice is kind of pointless and stupid, unless it serves some sort of plot point or makes the show better as a whole.

b) Don't underestimate kids' ability to understand dialog and drama. Adults weren't the only ones that 'got' Batman: TAS.


Its pretty extream to say Love Hina isnt mature enough to be on adult swim, when currently even Cowboy Bebop has edits to it reducing blood when the uncut version isnt anything that would be too much for a 13 year old to watch.

It has enough blood. More blood than most cop dramas, even. Complaining about blood edits is lame. They made it less severe but it's still strikingly noticable throughout the entire run. The only episode where it's cleaned up is Real Folk Blues pt. 1, and even then, there is plenty of blood. Part of me wants to think that pt. 1 doesn't have as much blood edits as people say it does. If you remember, the first run was very dark. I mean, the contrast was low. That's why it seemed like the blood on the window was darkened out and whatnot. But it wasn't an edit. By now they've fixed most of the contrast problems so I've been seeing more blood than I did when it was too dark to make out. *shrug*


Ummm,ATHF,Sealab,and Brak appear to be permanent shows for ASC.

ATHF and Sealab are as permanent as can possibly be, because they have huge fan followings. Brak is not as permanent, and I don't think he'll still be around in a year or two.


LH is way more mature than them (once you get past the first few episodes and the drama really kicks in) and the comedy *****in kills Brack and usually Sealab.

Maybe the subtitled version. But the dubbed version only comes off as cheeseball. Cheeseball jokes terrify me.

[stanteau]

sadly yes,the dub kills the characters so damn much

[Sheamon]

(once you get past the first few episodes and the drama really kicks in)
I wonder if we've seen the same show :p Love Hina has its share of content that would make it questionable for Toonami, but that didn't stop them from editing Tenchi Muyo and especially Outlaw Star to insane levels. The show is stacked with rather goofy filler, and the main storyline is virtually non-existent for most of the series. Even in the manga, which I found so entertaining, the drama was never at a very high level. Going by what Matt says, which he's always right on so there's no reason to think he's not right on the money, WS eventually will be targetting this block towards the 18+ crowd that those disclaimers talk about. Love Hina's filler and repetitiveness (wow, Naru beating up Keitaro sure is rare, huh? :rolleyes: ) won't attract that crowd. I think that outside of the dub, it could do quite well edited on Toonami, of course there's that little 'action' thing to get around :yawn:

[stanteau]

I won't argue about whether you like it or not since only some really get into Lh (the key is to relise it's stupid and just enjoy it) but those last 4 or 5 epsidoes were downright sad,ep 23 almsot ahd me in tears myself not to mention the stuff with Moe and the middle section with Kentaro plus all the "almost" kisses between Naru and Keitaro.I'm not saying it's the most dramatic thing ever,but it's very underrated IMO.

[ohmrbill]

Originally posted by Matt Wilson
And that's why Love Hina won't fit on Adult Swim Action or Comedy. It's not mature enough for either. It's a Toonami show, plain and simple. It would have to be editted, yes, but it's still a Toonami show. It's for that demographic. It's not for Adult Swim's intended demographic, which Williams Street will eventually target solely.

From what I could tell, Love Hina's demographic is horny teenagers, and that's the one demographic Toonami won't touch. Once you remove the fanservice, the show is nothing; just a string of bad jokes (which wouldn't make any sense with editing) with an occasional attempt at drama. I'm not saying it would fit on Adult Swim, but it sure as heck isn't Toonami material.