"The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" News & Discussion Thread, Part 4 (Spoilers) [Archive]

James Harvey

04-22-2011, 09:00 AM

Avengers Assemble! Airing regularly on Disney XD and Teletoon, The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes brings the classic superhero team to animated life!

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-The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes News & Discussion Thread, Part 1 (Spoilers) (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=217991)
-The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes News & Discussion Thread, Part 2 (Spoilers) (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=272223)
-The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes News & Discussion Thread, Part 3 (Spoilers) (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=277474)

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macattack

04-22-2011, 12:37 PM

So we have outfit changes, the reveal that the start of season 2 will be Secret Invasion, and the upcoming appearance of Ms. Marvel. Do I have everything right so far?

Of course, this is after the current season is over and done.

Medinnus

04-22-2011, 12:44 PM

So we have outfit changes, the reveal that the start of season 2 will be Secret Invasion, and the upcoming appearance of Ms. Marvel. Do I have everything right so far?

We have outfit changes.

If there has been some mention that the start of Season Two will be the start of a Secret Invasion storyline, I must have missed it; what we have seen is a Skrull infiltration, and the arrival of the Kree (with the introduction of Ms. Marvel), particularly Ronan the Accuser - presumably to adjudge Captain Marvel's contention that the native inhabitants of Earth do not need to be destroyed. In short, the Kree-Skrull War adaptation, not the Secret Invasion adaptation.

I'd lay a wager that what we're going to see is Earth become a battleground in a three-way front between the natives (that's us!), the Kree and the Skrull.

jph139

04-22-2011, 01:24 PM

In short, the Kree-Skrull War adaptation, not the Secret Invasion adaptation.

Well, actually...

New video highlighting the upcoming storylines for the second season:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_0MzevBKE0&feature=feedu

As he says at the start, "We open with a story that fans of the comics might be familiar with, called Secret Invasion." Which seems pretty cut and dry to me. :p

I imagine it'll transition into the War from there. Start off with the Skrulls are on Earth, who can we trust, so on, so forth... then BAM, Ms. Marvel, Kree arrive, giant war, all that good stuff.

Rick Jones

04-22-2011, 02:33 PM

I was just browsing the WalMart site and it looks like some kids (http://www.walmart.com/ip/15401801)' books (http://www.walmart.com/ip/15401802) might be getting published, so I guess any merch is better than no merch at all.

Medinnus

04-22-2011, 02:34 PM

If there has been some mention that the start of Season Two will be the start of a Secret Invasion storyline, I must have missed it

...as I said... *grins*

As he says at the start, "We open with a story that fans of the comics might be familiar with, called Secret Invasion." Which seems pretty cut and dry to me. :p

What a shame, although as the Kree were "off the board", I suspect that this version of "Secret Invasion" will bear little resemblance to the idiotic event of the same name; I expect the AEMH version to be good. Given their track record of executing different, but excellent, stories from the source materials, I doubt I'll be disappointed!

I was just browsing the WalMart site and it looks like some kids (http://www.walmart.com/ip/15401801)' books (http://www.walmart.com/ip/15401802) might be getting published, so I guess any merch is better than no merch at all.

Excellent! My son will love these!

EDIT - Also listed: Thor The Mighty, Meet Captain America, Hulk VS The World, Breakout, Man In The Ant Hill.

Added a merchandise page to my AEMH site!

macattack

04-22-2011, 02:41 PM

Secret Invasion was a really good concept and had a good beginning but in the middle it kinda fell apart. They drew everything out for too long, which is something I'll doubt the EMH crew will do.

Munkiman

04-22-2011, 03:34 PM

Nick Fury's building a team to fight the Skrulls... Skrull Kill Krew? :p

EMH version of Secret Invasion should be interesting, certainly more concise. And Wasp probably won't die.

Aquaman OS

04-22-2011, 08:32 PM

Well the whole point of Secret invasion was that the Skrulls had somehow improved their Shape Shifting to the point where they had the memories, and powers of their victims and could fool telepaths and the like making them basically undetectible, where as up until then the Skrulls had the usual shapeshifting weakness of not being able to duplicate the superhuman abilities beyond general Skrull toughness, and were in disguise only. So they were able to keep cover for a long long time and seamlessly intergrate into the Marvel world without being given away when they couldn't fly like they're victim were supposed to in a fight, or be not acting like themselves.

Doing that in their first appearance seems like it wouldn't work so well. So I expect it will be an adaptation of the Kree Skrull War with the added plot of a few Skrull infiltrators in various groups.

Sockie

04-22-2011, 09:45 PM

Aquaman OS

04-22-2011, 10:35 PM

It would be Secret Invasion in name only, which I don't think would really count.

Without enhanced Skrulls, without the problems the Skrull Empire had suffered as result stuff which couldn't have happened yet, since they're still at war being part of their motivation, without Civil War immediately prior to that, and with the Kree Empire involved, Secret Invasion just wouldn't work.

They might have Skrull infiltrators, and they might call a an episode Secret Invasion, and there might be a few shout outs but I'm not expecting it to be anything like the comic Secret Invasion plot.

dmxx116

04-22-2011, 11:07 PM

W.C.Reaf

04-23-2011, 10:03 AM

I think the Secret Invasion story they'll be using for the show is the "characters have been replaced with Skrull's. No one knows who is an alien, who is not, and who to trust." which was the story built up to the Secret Invasion comic event. Rather than the "loads of Super Skrull's fighting our heroes and big 'epic' battles" story that was the Secret Invasion comic. We may see Super Skrull's since they've had that tech from the very beginning and they could use them as the infiltrators.

Munkiman

04-23-2011, 03:22 PM

Here a clip of Eric Loomis talks about voicing Iron Man in The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes:

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/c/20/4db22a98b45ea.jpg
http://marvel.com/news/story/15715/the_avengers_earths_mightiest_heroes_voicing_iron_man
That was cool, I'm a little bit surprised that that's just his normal voice - it does sound a lot like Robert Downey Jr. and I had sort of subconsciously assumed that Loomis had been going for that, but it seems more like they went for Loomis in part because of the resemblance that was already there. Not a super informative interview or anything, but it's cool to hear a little bit from one of the voice actors and to see them recording together. I hope they do this for the other VAs, too!

King_of_doom

04-23-2011, 03:59 PM

I always enjoy hearing the voice actors and how they feel to do the voice of one of the characters, really cool on Eric Loomis using his actual voice and it does fit well for Tony Stark, hope we see more on the voice actors and their point of view on the characters they are voicing, lol kinda funny when i was watching the scene where Eric is working with the other voice actors it's obvious to identify Wally Wingert, still getting to know the other voice actors but Wally wasn't too hard especially that long hair of his XD.

Rick Jones

04-23-2011, 04:16 PM

That was cool, I'm a little bit surprised that that's just his normal voice - it does sound a lot like Robert Downey Jr. and I had sort of subconsciously assumed that Loomis had been going for that, but it seems more like they went for Loomis in part because of the resemblance that was already there. Not a super informative interview or anything, but it's cool to hear a little bit from one of the voice actors and to see them recording together. I hope they do this for the other VAs, too!

There were videos with Rick Wasserman and Fred Tatisciore a few months ago. Nothing really informative but it was cool seeing how enthusiastic they are about their work on the show.

James Harvey

04-23-2011, 10:55 PM

Copied from the DVD/Blu-ray thread, Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=648) has a closer look at the Canadian The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes - Season One, Volume One home video release from Vivendi Entertainment Canada. Click on the image below for more.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/avengersemh/releases/dvd/candvd/t-m01.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=648)The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes - Season One, Volume One from Vivendi Entertainment Canada streets on April 26th, 2011. Marvel Animation Age also has a first look at the menu system and package artwork for the forthcoming The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes DVD home video releases from Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment, available to view here (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=647).

Stay tuned for further updates here at Marvel Animation Age.

Dragnatek

04-24-2011, 03:21 PM

Secret invasion was a good story in it's idea but how it was implied in comics was where it failed. The idea of the skrulls replacing heroes and villains of Earth and maybe having been at it for years was a good idea but one that did not would out as well as it could. Mainly because well one of my biggest problems with Bendis (Who I don't hate) is that he tends to be good with building a story but they tend to fall apart with disappointing conclusions. That and he should stick to just writing street level characters.

However taking elements of the secret invasion and well doing it right is not a bad thing. Thats what I see happening here.

I find it funny that some people have been complaining that Ironman's voice in this show was a "poor imitation" of RDJ's Ironman/Stark but it turns out that's the voice actor's regular voice.

Rick Jones

04-24-2011, 04:27 PM

My personal problem with Secret Invasion was how kill-crazy a lot of the heroes became. That left a bad taste with me. I can't picture that problem reoccurring here.

Capt. Speedbump

04-24-2011, 07:51 PM

Just a head's up for anyone who visits the A:EMH page on Wikipedia: Someone has apparently decided to post a lengthy paragraph in the episode guide regarding episode 26. I didn't read the whole paragraph because I didn't want to be spoiled (so I don't know how much of it is accurate), so I deleted it and commented that an episode description shouldn't contain spoilers. But a little later, the paragraph was back, and I'm assuming if I delete it again, someone will post it again.

So I just wanted to tell people that if they want to avoid being spoiled, to avoid the Wikipedia A:EMH page.

LordTerminal

04-24-2011, 09:11 PM

Nick Fury's building a team to fight the Skrulls... Skrull Kill Krew? :p

EMH version of Secret Invasion should be interesting, certainly more concise. And Wasp probably won't die.

She dang well better not. Especially since EMH's version of Jan is my favorite incarnation of the character and it only makes me more pissed that Bendis did that. I know should just accept it and move on instead of rant like a fanboy but I can't help it. That moment alone was basically my own personal "One More Day" as I'm a fan of Janet and that was a very mean-spirited, cliche shock death that did not do her character any justice.

Okay, got that out of my system, I think I can move back on topic.

Still not having the highest of hopes of ANY adaptation of Secret Invasion being good but I'll give the EMH team a chance.

Aquaman OS

04-25-2011, 12:02 AM

My personal problem with Secret Invasion was how kill-crazy a lot of the heroes became. That left a bad taste with me. I can't picture that problem reoccurring here.

You do realize every ones of Kang's ships they sent back to their own time was basically erased from existance because they were sent to a timeline that no longer existed. Granted they didn't know this at the time, but still they basically killed all those people, although it wasn't quite as gruesome as SI.

Of course both the Skrulls and Kang's troops are not part of any nation on the planet, and thus the Avengers had no legal obligation to keep them alive.

Medinnus

04-25-2011, 01:22 AM

You do realize every ones of Kang's ships they sent back to their own time was basically erased from existance because they were sent to a timeline that no longer existed.

*shrugs* Semantics. Without specific knowledge of chronal mechanics (which is speculative at best), its all dust in the wind. *cue music*

If the timeline doesn't exist, then they were not even alive in the first place.

Or depending on how chronal mechanics work, they may exist, but in a better, free version of the future. The Avengers could just as easily liberated their entire civilization from under the thumb of Kang the Dictator.

Et cetera. If you're interested in looking at chronal logic-folding (time as origami?), I recommend David Gerrold's book "The Man Who Folded Himself".

Avengers

04-25-2011, 03:29 AM

(sorry if I post this wrong, first time) I honestly do not mind any of the costumes as long as they are story driven and not just there because cap and thor forget the laundry at the dry cleaners again:anime:

Oh and on a completely random note could one person just really quickly explain how to give myself an image for my profile, Thank you

James Harvey

04-25-2011, 10:25 AM

Reviews for the The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes - Volume One and Two DVD releases from Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment and the The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes - Season One, Volume One DVD title from Vivendi Entertainment Canada are now available at The WF DVD Report (http://www.wfdvdreport.com/). Click on the respective cover art below to check them out.

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AlgeaX

04-25-2011, 11:31 AM

Or depending on how chronal mechanics work, they may exist, but in a better, free version of the future. The Avengers could just as easily liberated their entire civilization from under the thumb of Kang the Dictator.

Wasn't the whole point of the story that Cap had inadvertently wiped out all human life in the future? Best case scenario: they're now trapped orbiting the lifeless ball of magma that was once Earth.

Medinnus

04-25-2011, 01:55 PM

Wasn't the whole point of the story that Cap had inadvertently wiped out all human life in the future? Best case scenario: they're now trapped orbiting the lifeless ball of magma that was once Earth.

Well, but you see, you're taking Kang's perspective as gospel. His timeline was disappearing, having been invalidated. He says its because of something Cap did during the Kree-Skrull war (or something like that).

All he knows as fact is that he followed Cap's timeline until Cap was apparently killed. As someone else pointed out, Cap isn't a time anomaly, though - he was within the timeline at all times. KANG is an anomaly, but naturally can't see his own effects on the timeline, as once he's traveled back, he's no longer a separate part of it.

Kang contends causation, but has no proof other than the fact that he goes from Conqueror to failed super-villain, because of his own actions. The fact of the matter is he doesn't - and can't - know what's replaced his timeline.

Sockie

04-25-2011, 02:13 PM

So, the Pendragon's Post reviewed the A:EMH DVDs, and we got some pretty exciting news from the previews on them! (well, exciting news for me at least =P)

http://www.pendragonspost.com/2011/04/24/dvd-review-the-avengers-earth%E2%80%99s-mightiest-heroes-vol-1-2disney/

There’ll be changes to some of the old favorites, with new costume designs for Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Nick Fury. Captain America and Nick Fury will be sporting their Ultimate Comics looks, and Thor’s look will be based on Olivier Coipel design. And introducing new characters, with 2 new Avengers, Ms. Marvel & the Vision. Guest stars include the Fantastic Four, Doc Samson, Ronan the Accuser, Ultron, Guradians of the Galaxy (Star-Lord, Quasar -Phyal-Vell, Adam Warlock, Rocket Raccoon, and Groot), the Falcon, Skrulls, and Dr Doom. With all these characters, Season 2 sounds exciting.

Season 2 will involve storylines including the Secret Invasion and Dr Doom. But the major of the season will have to deal with Avengers trying to stay a team.

The Guardians of the Galaxy are going to show up! WOOOOOOOOOOOT!

Also, Doom. But who cares about him?

macattack

04-25-2011, 04:37 PM

ktk

04-25-2011, 04:45 PM

Too bad its not the real Quasar.

Avengers

04-25-2011, 05:24 PM

SO the masters of evil will return, I am curious to see if enchantress and executioner will remain a part of the team after their plans finish (whatever they may be) if not the masters mite as well just forfeit cause without them they really do not seem like a big threat

King_of_doom

04-25-2011, 05:28 PM

I wonder how many people are excited by the reveals and how many people are disappointed. :sweat:

I was kinda hoping Black Widow would become an Avenger or at least return to SHIELD but I guess not . . .
Why are we going to be disappointed?

Just because they didn't mention it, doesn't mean they are telling ya the whole story of season 2.

Also, Doom. But who cares about him?

You're joking, right? I like to see a menacing version of Dr. Doom for once, the past shows with Dr. Doom in it where kinda meh....

SO the masters of evil will return, I am curious to see if enchantress and executioner will remain a part of the team after their plans finish (whatever they may be) if not the masters mite as well just forfeit cause without them they really do not seem like a big threat
I like to see that, there's alot of potential on the Masters of Evil.

macattack

04-25-2011, 05:35 PM

Why are we going to be disappointed?

Just because they didn't mention it, doesn't mean they are telling ya the whole story of season 2.

It would've been nice to know if Widow's story is continuing or not. Though they may be waiting until the next batch of DVD sets before they'll confirm that.

I'm sure there is sensitive stuff they don't want to talk about yet. It'll be interesting to find out what that stuff is.

Sockie

04-25-2011, 05:38 PM

You're joking, right? I like to see a menacing version of Dr. Doom for once, the past shows with Dr. Doom in it where kinda meh....

Yes, that was a joke.

M.O.D.O.K.

04-25-2011, 06:07 PM

The Elders of the Universe don't surprise me. They were set-up in a future story in the comic book tie-in.

Rocket Raccoon? AWESOME!!!

Sockie

04-25-2011, 06:09 PM

The Guardians of the Universe don't surprise me. They were set-up in a future story in the comic book tie-in.

Rocket Raccoon? AWESOME!!!

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Elders of the Universe. I do not recall the Guardians of the Galaxy being set up.

Avengers

04-25-2011, 06:26 PM

M.O.D.O.K.

04-25-2011, 08:30 PM

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Elders of the Universe. I do not recall the Guardians of the Galaxy being set up.

Yeah, true. Thanks. :sweat:

Aaron

04-25-2011, 08:41 PM

Aside from the list of characters appearing, and the images of costume changes...
What ALL do we know?

Question below, spoiler-y:

We know it's going to deal with the Secret Invasion, because of the Season 1 finale, and what was said in that sneak peek.

But do we KNOW about cosmos/power cosmic related anything?
Do we know if this might head toward Galactus at all?
'Cause if it does... I'm hopin' like heck that Silver Surfer puts in an appearance.

So, basically what I'm asking, is this:

What's known for a fact, and what's speculation thus far?

King_of_doom

04-25-2011, 09:10 PM

Aside from the list of characters appearing, and the images of costume changes...
What ALL do we know?

We know it's going to deal with the Secret Invasion, because of the Season 1 finale, and what was said in that sneak peek.

But do we KNOW about cosmos/power cosmic related anything?
Do we know if this might head toward Galactus at all?
'Cause if it does... I'm hopin' like heck that Silver Surfer puts in an appearance.

So, basically what I'm asking, is this:

What's known for a fact, and what's speculation thus far?

Put spoilers tag dude, some already know but some don't........you can discuss everything when they show all the episodes of season 1 here.

jph139

04-25-2011, 10:01 PM

Oh man, Guardians of the Galaxy? That's SO ridiculous and yet SO awesome. I wonder what kind of plot that would involve.

Also, nice to know Vision is coming (though I guess that's been in the air for a while), and even nicer to know that THE AVENGERS SHALL KNEEL BEFORE DOOM! Hopefully there's at least one full-fledged Fantastic Four crossover in that batch...

Aaron

04-25-2011, 10:43 PM

Put spoilers tag dude, some already know but some don't........you can discuss everything when they show all the episodes of season 1 here.

My bad, man. Really sorry. I've fixed it. Meant to do that originally. Must have slipped my mind.
Thanks for the heads up, so I could take care of that.

King_of_doom

04-25-2011, 11:07 PM

My bad, man. Really sorry. I've fixed it. Meant to do that originally. Must have slipped my mind.
Thanks for the heads up, so I could take care of that.

No worries man, When it comes comment on something even the slightest thing on one of the episode it will lose the cool twist it has so it would be cool for the rest to keep an eye on the episodes ;).

So you guys have ideas on what else they can come up with the Avengers? I know there's alot to show but what do you expect to see like characters and story arcs? Wonder if they will show Immortus also story arcs like the Kang Dynasty, the Korvac Saga and Acts of Vengeance and show a few hints of characters like the Scarlet Witch that might join the Avengers.

Rick Jones

04-25-2011, 11:37 PM

Marvel (http://marvel.com/news/story/15723/the_avengers_emh_voicing_captain_america) has a new video with Brian Bloom, about voicing Cap.

suss2it

04-25-2011, 11:48 PM

Marvel (http://marvel.com/news/story/15723/the_avengers_emh_voicing_captain_america) has a new video with Brian Bloom, about voicing Cap.

His regular voice doesn't sound much like his Captain America voice. It sounds almost identical to his Ultraman. And I gotta agree with him, whoever does the voice of Kang is marvelous.

King_of_doom

04-25-2011, 11:50 PM

Marvel (http://marvel.com/news/story/15723/the_avengers_emh_voicing_captain_america) has a new video with Brian Bloom, about voicing Cap.

That was cool, Brian really likes the role of Captain America also i agree with him on Jonathan Adams the voice actor of Kang, he's just awesome how he does the voice.

Avengers

04-28-2011, 09:11 PM

Dexters Lab

04-28-2011, 10:32 PM

wasn't the first season of the show 52 episodes or did they cut it in half to 26? Is the show renewed for a second season or is it speculation? Didn't the show do really bad in ratings?

suss2it

04-28-2011, 10:44 PM

wasn't the first season of the show 52 episodes or did they cut it in half to 26? Is the show renewed for a second season or is it speculation? Didn't the show do really bad in ratings?

The first season is 26 episodes, it has been renewed for a second season of 26 episodes before it even premiered. 13 of which have been finished. Not sure how it's doing in the ratings, so I can't answer that.

Dragnatek

04-29-2011, 09:31 AM

The first season is 26 episodes, it has been renewed for a second season of 26 episodes before it even premiered. 13 of which have been finished. Not sure how it's doing in the ratings, so I can't answer that.

All 52 episodes were ordered at once but making it two 26 episode seasons was the best thing to do.

Medinnus

04-29-2011, 12:27 PM

All 52 episodes were ordered at once but making it two 26 episode seasons was the best thing to do.

Well, my understanding is that the industry standard for a full season is 26 episodes, so its not like they made a decision as such, they ordered two seasons from the beginning.

Capt. Speedbump

04-29-2011, 05:21 PM

I would like to give my first bit of speculation on the second season. With most shows a season builds up to a major villain or event, now if all the series' little easter eggs are pointing to galactus for the second season. We know this season is focused on the cosmos and we know Doom will be appearing and someone did say that the fantastic four would be seen in a big way and unless he was talking about those images we saw from episode 19 or them helping to stop doom I am betting galactus is coming. I am sure that he will somehow be intertwined with the Kree?Skrull war and I am really hoping this is all the case because quite frankly marvel animation has surely been lacking in the planet devouring monster department:D

I'm sorry, but I actually hope not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't most of the classic Galactus stories been in Fantastic Four and not Avengers? We've already had appearances from the Kree (Sentry 459), the Mad Thinker, and it seems Dr. Doom is coming. Granted, those characters have all had history with the Avengers in the comics, but I think Galactus (as well as the Silver Surfer, the Mole Man, the Inhumans, etc.) are just way too associated with the FF. At this point, I'd rather just have them make a new Fantastic Four series (spinoff?) instead of shoehorning all their stuff into Avengers.

Of course, since episode 52 has completed pre-production, everything for all planned episodes has now been set in stone, so we'll see what happens.

suss2it

04-29-2011, 05:26 PM

I'm sorry, but I actually hope not. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't most of the classic Galactus stories been in Fantastic Four and not Avengers? We've already had appearances from the Kree (Sentry 459), the Mad Thinker, and it seems Dr. Doom is coming. Granted, those characters have all had history with the Avengers in the comics, but I think Galactus (as well as the Silver Surfer, the Mole Man, the Inhumans, etc.) are just way too associated with the FF. At this point, I'd rather just have them make a new Fantastic Four series (spinoff?) instead of shoehorning all their stuff into Avengers.Glactus is usually a Fantastic Four villain, but it's not like there's a personal connection between him and them in the comics. He's a world-eating monster, which makes him a universal threat, so I think it's fine if they use him.

Avengers

04-29-2011, 06:23 PM

Aquaman OS

04-29-2011, 08:22 PM

That would totally kill all the action though because 99 percent of Galactus battles are "Get whooped repeatedly, convince him to leave."

I really don't think they need to go Galactus already. There's plenty of other final season villains that can actually be defeated.

Capt. Speedbump

04-29-2011, 08:58 PM

That is what I was thinking suss2it but after watching the season 2 sneak peak the Fantastic four will be guest staring in season 2's first episode which centers around doom, so I am guessing Galactus is a no show as of yet (I did not consider this a spoiler, anyone who does I apologize and if you could explain how to put a spoiler box in I would appreciate it)

I don't think information gained from "sneak previews" would be considered spoilers (they're intentionally giving out details to make you anticipate what's coming), but that could just be me.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Galactus... in a new Fantastic Four series that is. Maybe if their guest appearance in Season 2 goes well, perhaps a spinoff?

Medinnus

04-29-2011, 09:29 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Galactus... in a new Fantastic Four series that is. Maybe if their guest appearance in Season 2 goes well, perhaps a spinoff?

I don't want to see The Big Guy outside of an FF cartoon, but I'd love to see them branch out the AEMH continuity with an X-Men, FF, and Spider series, as well as some OAVs (so long as the quality held up to the AEMH level).

I love connected universe stuff.

Avengers

04-30-2011, 01:51 AM

To be honest I am hoping for one thing, I really want to see this show do an event that brings in a huge majority of the marvel universe, I know that fury is already bringing a group to fight the skrull invasion and thats great, but if they are ganna go all out on this war then every marvel player should be shown fighten off the attack, just to show the sheer impact and weight the situation holds. but that might be just me

macattack

04-30-2011, 02:14 AM

I think Galactus makes the perfect sort of villain to use in the final season. If the EMH crew believe they're not going to get more than 52 episodes they should go with Galactus, but if they think there'll be a renewal I'd hold off on Galactus for at least a little longer.

You just can't top Galactus. He's a frickin' devourer of worlds.

Avengers

04-30-2011, 02:41 AM

Aquaman OS

04-30-2011, 04:05 AM

The problem with Galactus is as mentioned, nobody can defeat him. Thor unleashed his complete and total power and only managed to wound him a little. And even if you can that causes major universal problems because he's the seal for something which I forget. So unless you want the epic final battle to be them getting whooped before convincing Galactus not to eat their planet, they should probably go with someone less galactic deitylike.

Someone like Thanos or Doom would be a more fitting final enemy.

ShadowStar

04-30-2011, 10:13 AM

Forget Galactus (if they're bringing in Fantastic Four villains now, I'd rather have Doom since the story with Galactus always tends to be the same)...

Let's go with Onslaught. :evil::D Bring in Xavier, Storm, Wolverine and a few more X-Men and we're good to go.

Sockie

04-30-2011, 11:39 AM

How about we go with someone who's all-powerful, and an Avengers villain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korvac

Dragnatek

04-30-2011, 11:45 AM

Onslaught was a complete mess of a story and a pretty badly done one at that so please no Onslaught

jph139

04-30-2011, 12:20 PM

I'm definitely hoping we get Thanos (and the Infinity Gauntlet) as a huge final arc. Bring in all of the different teams and have the Illuminati formed - with that, you have Iron Man, Professor X, Namor, Black Bolt, Doctor Strange, and Mr. Fantastic. It'd be a bit tough to manage all of those characters, but give it a big multi-part finale (like half of a season) and some nice buildup and I think it could work.

I mean, Galactus is fine and all, but I want to see them take down a guy who can mess with reality itself - and someone with more Avengers history, at that.

Sockie

04-30-2011, 01:52 PM

I mean, Galactus is fine and all, but I want to see them take down a guy who can mess with reality itself - and someone with more Avengers history, at that.

Korvac fits that criteria. ;)

Capt. Speedbump

04-30-2011, 02:15 PM

Korvac fits that criteria. ;)

If the Guardians of the Galaxy show up, it's probably likely that Korvac will make an appearance. He seems like an appropriate cosmic villain, and "The Korvac Saga" from the Avengers comic is regarded as a classic storyline.

Presumably, if season 2 is a cosmic season, there will be other threats besides the Kree and Skrulls. I'm guessing we'll see Korvac, Thanos, and possibly Nebula. There may be others... who knows?

Sockie

04-30-2011, 02:42 PM

If the Guardians of the Galaxy show up, it's probably likely that Korvac will make an appearance. He seems like an appropriate cosmic villain, and "The Korvac Saga" from the Avengers comic is regarded as a classic storyline.

Presumably, if season 2 is a cosmic season, there will be other threats besides the Kree and Skrulls. I'm guessing we'll see Korvac, Thanos, and possibly Nebula. There may be others... who knows?

Well, we know the DnA GOTG are appearing, so that could lead to an appearance from the classic team and, in turn, Korvac.

For cosmic villains, aside from Korvac I would like to see Thanos and Annihilus. (the latter even had a small role in the Kree-Skrull War storyline, and I realize it sounds like I didn't want the former) For heroes, Beta Ray Bill plz.

Medinnus

04-30-2011, 03:03 PM

Well, we know the DnA GOTG are appearing...

We do? Where from? )

Sockie

04-30-2011, 03:33 PM

We do? Where from? )

http://www.pendragonspost.com/2011/04/24/dvd-review-the-avengers-earth%E2%80%99s-mightiest-heroes-vol-1-2disney/

There’ll be changes to some of the old favorites, with new costume designs for Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Nick Fury. Captain America and Nick Fury will be sporting their Ultimate Comics looks, and Thor’s look will be based on Olivier Coipel design. And introducing new characters, with 2 new Avengers, Ms. Marvel & the Vision. Guest stars include the Fantastic Four, Doc Samson, Ronan the Accuser, Ultron, Guradians of the Galaxy (Star-Lord, Quasar -Phyal-Vell, Adam Warlock, Rocket Raccoon, and Groot), the Falcon, Skrulls, and Dr Doom. With all these characters, Season 2 sounds exciting.

There's pics floating around the net, but I don't think we can post those here.

thecollektor

04-30-2011, 03:39 PM

Great to hear about Guardians of the Galaxy. I love cosmic characters. I hope to see:
Moondragon
Mantis
Gamora
Adam Warlock
Drax the Destroyer
Elders of the Universe
Nova Corps
Thanos
Beta Ray Bill
Galactus
Silver Surfer
:D

LordTerminal

04-30-2011, 05:02 PM

Onslaught was a complete mess of a story and a pretty badly done one at that so please no Onslaught

So was Secret Invasion and they plan on adapting that. Besides, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the events at the end of the Onslaught story eventually lead to the creation of the Thunderbolts? You gotta give it credit for that at the very least.

Avengers

04-30-2011, 05:04 PM

I have one hope for a charecter appearance, All I want to sea is the super skrull!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

Capt. Speedbump

04-30-2011, 05:23 PM

I have one hope for a character appearance; all I want to see is the Super Skrull!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

I believe he did appear in the comic Kree-Skrull war, so hopefully he'll put in an appearance here.

We're getting Ronan and Yon-Rogg with the Kree, and presumably the Supreme Intelligence as well, so someone's gonna have to step up to represent the Skrulls! ;)

Medinnus

04-30-2011, 06:09 PM

Bah! Kree this and skrull that!

No love for the Badoon?

suss2it

04-30-2011, 06:19 PM

It would've been nice to know if Widow's story is continuing or not. Though they may be waiting until the next batch of DVD sets before they'll confirm that.

I'm sure there is sensitive stuff they don't want to talk about yet. It'll be interesting to find out what that stuff is.

Actually on the sneak preview of season 2 on volume 1, they do say that Black Widow will be returning.

In fact they reveal her true alliance in that sneak preview, and she's shown kissing one of the Avengers.

Munkiman

04-30-2011, 11:08 PM

Thanos would be a good one since the Infinity Gauntlet is pretty Avengers-y. Nova Corps will hopefully show up in the second season due to it being more cosmic.

Galactus would be kind of lame, especially for a finale, because he's more FF-centric and also because you're not allowed to beat him.

RONDC20

04-30-2011, 11:56 PM

About the costume changes.Hulk's, Iron Man's and Thor's changes do not bother me at all. I'm not crazy about Captain America's Ultimate look, but I can live with it. One thing that I am concerned about is this "New Weapon" That thing on his wrist looks awfully familiar if you've seen Next Avengers. I really don't want Cap to have a Holographic Shield like his son did Next Avangers.

I'm actually surprised no one's picked up on this. Aside from that I am really looking forward to season 2 and it's cosmic scale. Im looking forward to seeing Ms Marvel, Vision and Dr Doom oh and also Falcon.

Medinnus

04-30-2011, 11:59 PM

That thing on his wrist looks awfully familiar if you've seen Next Avengers. I really don't want Cap to have a Holographic Shield like his son did Next Avengers.

Yes, its probably his photonic energy shield from Mark Waid's run on Captain America some time back (Volume 3).

RONDC20

05-01-2011, 12:34 AM

Aw Crud! I hope it's not a permanent change. I prefer his classic physical shield. How do you feel about him having this photonic energy shield ? I don't like it one bit.

I really hope that it's temporary. Im still gonna watch it of course, I mean the show had such a strong first season and became my all time favorite Superhero team show since JLU,but I'm not loving this photonic shield instead of the classic one.

Aquaman OS

05-01-2011, 12:43 AM

RONDC20

05-01-2011, 01:01 AM

It is the Photonic Shield. Although it hopefully will be temporary, and there's probably a reason why they brought it in

Minor spoiler for season 1 finale.
In the final battle, the classic shield gets partially destroyed, although Cap is shown keeping what's left of it so it can probably be fixed in time.

Your right Aquaman OS I've seen all 26 season 1 episodes, so it does make sense now and I bet it will be a temporary change. Whew! that makes me feel better.

Rick Jones

05-01-2011, 01:04 AM

RONDC20

05-01-2011, 01:40 AM

I feel pretty certain that there's no way that the photonic shield will become Cap's permanent weapon of choice. The round, metal shield is iconic (which I'm sure the crew knows) and it's much more representative of Cap (as an old fashioned guy who will rely on something more tangible than technological) so I can't imagine that they won't go back to it soon enough. Even in Next Avengers, where the photonic shield was used pretty heavily, it was eventually replaced by the classic shield while in the heat of battle which I think was done to show James come into his own and really follow in his father's footsteps.

Good points Rick and I am also confident that it will be temporary. I'm guessing Tony builds him this Photonic Shield as a temp solution untill he can repain his classic shield. I'm betting there might even be a lighthearted argument where Tony is trying to convince Cap that his Photonic Shield is better, but Can is not hearing it and only agrees to use it untill his old shield is fixed.

BTW does anyone know if season 2 will be a 26 episode season like season 1 or will it be only a 13 episode season.

suss2it

05-01-2011, 01:53 AM

Galactus would be kind of lame, especially for a finale, because he's more FF-centric and also because you're not allowed to beat him.That's true for the 616 verse, that rule doesn't have to carry over to this adaption. Even if it would, I think it'd be very interesting to see that not every villain can be beaten into submission.

I feel pretty certain that there's no way that the photonic shield will become Cap's permanent weapon of choice. The round, metal shield is iconic (which I'm sure the crew knows) and it's much more representative of Cap (as an old fashioned guy who will rely on something more tangible than technological) so I can't imagine that they won't go back to it soon enough. Even in Next Avengers, where the photonic shield was used pretty heavily, it was eventually replaced by the classic shield while in the heat of battle which I think was done to show James come into his own and really follow in his father's footsteps.

Steve Rogers is actually using the photonic shield right now in the comics. Maybe that's why they chose to give it to him here. These guys are pulling from all eras of the comics and other media adaptions after all. I'm also not at all bothered by it, since it makes more sense for it always back to him unlike his boomerang-like shield.

Avengers

05-01-2011, 04:13 AM

Your right Aquaman OS I've seen all 26 season 1 episodes, so it does make sense now and I bet it will be a temporary change. Whew! that makes me feel better.

I would not worry in any way if he keeps it as said then it is definatly not perminant, I mean the thing is hanging in the the Colbert report's set wall there is no way they would get rid of it:D

http://www.toplessrobot.com/colbert-captain-america-shield.jpg

P.S: im really diggin that happy face

Rick Jones

05-01-2011, 12:27 PM

It looks like they're promoting the May 15th airdate on Disney XD now. They ran a little promo today with some Disney XD kids.

Munkiman

05-01-2011, 06:19 PM

That's true for the 616 verse, that rule doesn't have to carry over to this adaption. Even if it would, I think it'd be very interesting to see that not every villain can be beaten into submission.
Lee and Kirby already did that story, though, with the Fantastic Four. An epic season finale would need something a bit newer, IMO, and the thing about Galactus is that it's hard to do anything new with him while he's still the main enemy.

As for whether they would change Galactus so that he could be destroyed in this universe, it wouldn't really be Galactus at that point.

Aquaman OS

05-01-2011, 09:22 PM

Personally I'd prefer a final battle of the team vs multiple villians rather than everybody going up against one powerful guy.

At least in the comics I much prefered the former (Civil War, Secret Invasion, and Seige all ended with these battles) rather than the latter (WW Hulk, Onslaught and just about every Galactus fight)

With group battles you get everybody getting a cool moment to shine and lots of screentime for everyone. With one powerful villain you just get everybody beaten up until they do the one drastic thing that wins it.

suss2it

05-02-2011, 12:51 AM

Lee and Kirby already did that story, though, with the Fantastic Four. An epic season finale would need something a bit newer, IMO, and the thing about Galactus is that it's hard to do anything new with him while he's still the main enemy.So what? This isn't the 616 universe and stuff have been and will be adapted from all eras of Marvel, so why should that story be the exception?

As for whether they would change Galactus so that he could be destroyed in this universe, it wouldn't really be Galactus at that point.Galactus is a fictional character and his power level can be whatever the TPTB dictate it to be. As long as it's consistent in it's own universe I have no qualms with power changes across media.

Aquaman OS

05-02-2011, 01:16 AM

suss2it

05-02-2011, 01:25 AM

While I support occasional variations across media, you shouldn't change the core of the character. And Galactus at his core is a planet eating, galactic deity that certainly should not be defeated by 8 heroes, only one of which (Thor) has the power required to actually be effective against him. If they changed that, he might as well not be Galactus anymore, and they might as well have made up a brand new character. In fact based on how faithful they've been to all the other characters I can safely say the writers of this show won't do something like that just to have an excuse to feature Galactus on this show when he isn't even a foe of any regular member of the team. It could be much more than 8 heroes. Captain & Ms. Marvel, the Fantastic Four and other characters that will be joining the cast later on. Or they could beat him whatever way they've done in the comics.

Galactus is the entire Marvel Universe's foe, true he was introduced as a Fantastic Four villain, but like Dr. Doom he's transcended that.

It would be like making Cap into a Punisher style gun toting vigilante, or turning Superman into a regular human that gets powers from his costume, and can't fly.No it wouldn't. Weakening a character's power level is not the name as changing the character's personality. Plus Superman started off not flying.

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 02:12 AM

Galactus is the entire Marvel Universe's foe, true he was introduced as a Fantastic Four villain, but like Dr. Doom he's transcended that.

True as far as it goes - but it doesn't really go very far, in Galactus' case. He's the freaking Devourer of Worlds, not the Hamburgler with even worse fashion sense. Jobbing him so he can be an Avengers villain du jour is a bloody horrible idea.

Here's MY deal - when they run out of Avengers-based plots and villains, then they can start poaching other plots and villains from X-Men, the Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man. Until then, leave them the bloody hell out of the Avengers.

If the Avengers is going to be "guest of the week" eventually, lets use it to highlight brands that aren't strong enough to support their own series - Nova the Living Rocket, for example, or the Shroud, or Cloak and Dagger, or Iron Fist, or... well, you get the idea.

BTW, the Avengers first faced off against Dr. Doom in V.1 #25

suss2it

05-02-2011, 02:25 AM

True as far as it goes - but it doesn't really go very far, in Galactus' case. He's the freaking Devourer of Worlds, not the Hamburgler with even worse fashion sense. Jobbing him so he can be an Avengers villain du jour is a bloody horrible idea.Who said anything about jobbing? If anything taking on the The Avengers is a lot tougher than the Fantastic Four.

Here's MY deal - when they run out of Avengers-based plots and villains, then they can start poaching other plots and villains from X-Men, the Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man. Until then, leave them the bloody hell out of the Avengers.I see no reason to limit where their ideas come from. If they think they can tell a good story using Magneto or Doctor Octopus, I'm not going to object.

If the Avengers is going to be "guest of the week" eventually, lets use it to highlight brands that aren't strong enough to support their own series - Nova the Living Rocket, for example, or the Shroud, or Cloak and Dagger, or Iron Fist, or... well, you get the idea.If they do use Galactus nobody here was suggesting that that they just use him as any other villain. I'm saying that he would be a good season/series finale villain.

Gregatron

05-02-2011, 04:09 AM

Just wondering, when Marvel got the Spidey tv rights back, did it happen before production started for Avengers season 2? I'd like to see Spidey appear or be mentioned in an episode in season 2.

babykhris

05-02-2011, 09:13 AM

My question is after hunting the Masters of Evil and other major threats will we focus on catching those escaped criminals again or is that SHIELD's job now?

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 10:45 AM

Who said anything about jobbing? If anything taking on the The Avengers is a lot tougher than the Fantastic Four.

and

Galactus is a fictional character and his power level can be whatever the TPTB dictate it to be. As long as it's consistent in it's own universe I have no qualms with power changes across media.

That's "jobbing" in my book.

I see no reason to limit where their ideas come from. If they think they can tell a good story using Magneto or Doctor Octopus, I'm not going to object.Except that if they have to resort to Magneto, or Doctor Octopus, then they're being lazy. Of hundreds of potential stories, the ones that rise to the top are Magneto and Doc Ock? The only reason those would be better stories than, say, Count Nefaria, the Secret Empire, the Serpent Crown (et al), the Collector, the Squadron Sinister, Zodiac, Immortus, the Lethal Legion, the Legion of the Unliving, the Sons of the Serpent, Diablo, the Super-Adaptoid, the Circus of Crime, the Grandmaster, Thanos, the Celestial Madonna (et al), Arkon, the Living Bombs, the Lady Liberators, Warhawk, the Space Phanton, the Lion God (!), the Evil Eye, the Mad Thinker (and Andy!), the Stranger, the Assassin, the Badoon, Korvac, Cthon, the Elements of DOOM!, the Taskmaster, the Red Skull, Roxxon Corp, Justin Hammer, Egghead, David Letterman, Morgan LeFay, the Wraiths, the Deviants of Lemuria, the Beyonder, Terminus, the Lunatic Legion, Heavy Metal, the Super-Axis (either as a group under the Red Skull, or as individuals)... I can go on, but I think I made my point. The only reason why a cross-over villain would win out over these is so that they can do a "special guest star" kind of thing to appeal to the X-fans or the FF fans.

If they do use Galactus nobody here was suggesting that that they just use him as any other villain. I'm saying that he would be a good season/series finale villain.I think he'd be a poor choice, for all the reasons listed above.

Capt. Speedbump

05-02-2011, 11:11 AM

Just wondering, when Marvel got the Spidey tv rights back, did it happen before production started for Avengers season 2? I'd like to see Spidey appear or be mentioned in an episode in season 2.

Not sure, but since episode 52 has finished pre-production, everything for all remaining planned episodes has been set in stone.

Hopefully, a third season will be greenlit, and some of the wishes from this board can be granted. I'll add my vote for a Spider-Man appearance (though not Ultimate Spider-Man, as I don't think the two series will cross over anyway).

I'd also like to see more episodes because I'd love to see the Taskmaster, and Josh Fine said they tried to squeeze him into the first 52 episodes, but couldn't find a place for him.

There are other Avengers villians I'd love to see, but I'll wait and see if some of them make it into season 2 (or the remaining seven of season 1).

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 11:29 AM

Not sure, but since episode 52 has finished pre-production, everything for all remaining planned episodes has been set in stone.

Hopefully, a third season will be greenlit, and some of the wishes from this board can be granted.

Agreed. I wish they'd go ahead and approve Season Three before the talented staff which brought us the first two seasons has a chance to find new opportunities away from the Avengers franchise - selfish, perhaps, but so be it!

math56

05-02-2011, 03:04 PM

They could made a Liberator/Masters Of Evil, Doctor Doom makes a new Thor hammer with the aid of Loki (who still emprisioned, but materializes an astral projection of him to use Doctor Doom), they give that hammer to Perun. Zemo is empowered by the Super Soldier serum (he manages to steal that). Moonstone have the same powers than Miss Marvel plus the Super Soldier Serum. Ultron designs an armor able to increase its size. Mandarin uses one of his most loyal men , Dreadknight. Crimson Dynamo 2 uses an armor that looks exactly like Mark VII but all red. Abomination is empowered by Super soldier serum and more Gamma Energy. That´s how the battle would go:

Doctor Doom ---- Deated after making the suit by all the Avengers
Mandarin -- Iron Man
Perun -- Thor
Moonstone -- Miss Marvel and Black Panther
Zemo -- Captain America and Hawkeye
Crimson Dynamo 2 -- Hank and Jan
Ultron -- Vision
Abomination -- Hulk

suss2it

05-02-2011, 03:18 PM

and

That's "jobbing" in my book.A jobber is someone who's tough but gets taken down by another entity to show tough they are. So Doom showing up to take down the Avengers, only for Magneto to completely crush him, that's Doom jobbing for Magneto.

Anyway, as I said they don't have to lower Galactus' power level, however they beat him in the comicverse could work here too.

Except that if they have to resort to Magneto, or Doctor Octopus, then they're being lazy. Of hundreds of potential stories, the ones that rise to the top are Magneto and Doc Ock? The only reason those would be better stories than, say, Count Nefaria, the Secret Empire, the Serpent Crown (et al), the Collector, the Squadron Sinister, Zodiac, Immortus, the Lethal Legion, the Legion of the Unliving, the Sons of the Serpent, Diablo, the Super-Adaptoid, the Circus of Crime, the Grandmaster, Thanos, the Celestial Madonna (et al), Arkon, the Living Bombs, the Lady Liberators, Warhawk, the Space Phanton, the Lion God (!), the Evil Eye, the Mad Thinker (and Andy!), the Stranger, the Assassin, the Badoon, Korvac, Cthon, the Elements of DOOM!, the Taskmaster, the Red Skull, Roxxon Corp, Justin Hammer, Egghead, David Letterman, Morgan LeFay, the Wraiths, the Deviants of Lemuria, the Beyonder, Terminus, the Lunatic Legion, Heavy Metal, the Super-Axis (either as a group under the Red Skull, or as individuals)... I can go on, but I think I made my point. The only reason why a cross-over villain would win out over these is so that they can do a "special guest star" kind of thing to appeal to the X-fans or the FF fans.Actually a cross-over villain could win out since they're more interesting then a lot of those villains you mentioned. We already know that we're getting Dr. Doom and not Taskmaster for instance. In regard to Magneto, he's the father of Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch both of which are Avengers and might show up in EMH, so that right there is a reason t use him without needing a crossover.

Not to mention that The Avengers are suppose to handle threats that no single hero could withstand, so it would make a lot of sense for them to fight the really tough guys like Galactus, Magneto or Doc Oct. I'm also not saying that they shouldn't fight all those unknown villains you listed, just that I wouldn't be opposed to them also fighting other big name Marvel villains as well.

I think he'd be a poor choice, for all the reasons listed above.Because the Evil Eye would be such an epic season/series finale?

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 03:40 PM

Because the Evil Eye would be such an epic season/series finale?

Yes, actually, adapting the Evil Eye story (known more commonly as the Avengers/Defenders war, circa Avengers V1 #116) would be, if handled correctly (of course, no concept, if handled badly, would be good...).

It sure as heck beat "Yet Another Galactus Story (tm)" or "Yet Another Dark Phoenix Story (also tm)", or even "Yet Another Magneto Story (tm)". These have all been pretty much done to death by their own franchises, pretty much anywhere those franchises have happened. I'm all in favor of keeping them the heck away from the Avengers - let the Avengers explore its own material. Light knows there is enough of it for ten seasons without having to provide crossover excuses for other franchises.

The exception I would make - or perhaps thats "would have made" - would have been a crossover between two ongoing franchise series, such as a Spectacular Spider-Man or Wolverine and the X-Men crossover, but both those series were strangled to death before AEMH was aborn.

As for Magneto being such a large part of the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver mythos, its more of a footnote - one that came some 20 years after the characters were established in the Avengers - before that came to light. It really isn't part of the core of either character's characterization, really, except in X-Men based animation (and Byrne's unfortunate WCA run).

Anyway, as I said they don't have to lower Galactus' power level, however they beat him in the comicverse could work here too.

No they don't have to, but you did advocate it. *shrugs* And you see, the Avengers never dealt with Galactus, or at least not as an Avengers story. So yeah, I suppose Hank Pym could go to the blue area of the moon and lift the Ultimate Nullifier or somesuch, while the main team beat up on (pick a random Herald here) - but its an FF story, and so re-writing it to be an Avengers story would be really pathetic.

I know we're going to not agree on this - opinions are like onions, everyone has one and they stink. Oh wait... OK, not everyone has onions, but they still stink. I'd rather a show called "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" be about Avengers material, not re-treads of other franchises. YMMV, and clearly does.

Capt. Speedbump

05-02-2011, 03:57 PM

Except that if they have to resort to Magneto, or Doctor Octopus, then they're being lazy. Of hundreds of potential stories, the ones that rise to the top are Magneto and Doc Ock? The only reason those would be better stories than, say, Count Nefaria, the Secret Empire, the Serpent Crown (et al), the Collector, the Squadron Sinister, Zodiac, Immortus, the Lethal Legion, the Legion of the Unliving, the Sons of the Serpent, Diablo, the Super-Adaptoid, the Circus of Crime, the Grandmaster, Thanos, the Celestial Madonna (et al), Arkon, the Living Bombs, the Lady Liberators, Warhawk, the Space Phanton, the Lion God (!), the Evil Eye, the Mad Thinker (and Andy!), the Stranger, the Assassin, the Badoon, Korvac, Cthon, the Elements of DOOM!, the Taskmaster, the Red Skull, Roxxon Corp, Justin Hammer, Egghead, David Letterman, Morgan LeFay, the Wraiths, the Deviants of Lemuria, the Beyonder, Terminus, the Lunatic Legion, Heavy Metal, the Super-Axis (either as a group under the Red Skull, or as individuals)... I can go on, but I think I made my point.

Ummmm.... David Letterman? :confused:

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 04:21 PM

Ummmm.... David Letterman? :confused:

Yessir!

Well, the Avengers DID appear on his show.... I kinda left that in there to see if anyone actually read the whole thing! :D

suss2it

05-02-2011, 04:22 PM

Yes, actually, adapting the Evil Eye story (known more commonly as the Avengers/Defenders war, circa Avengers V1 #116) would be, if handled correctly (of course, no concept, if handled badly, would be good...).

It sure as heck beat "Yet Another Galactus Story (tm)" or "Yet Another Dark Phoenix Story (also tm)", or even "Yet Another Magneto Story (tm)". These have all been pretty much done to death by their own franchises, pretty much anywhere those franchises have happened. I'm all in favor of keeping them the heck away from the Avengers - let the Avengers explore its own material. Light knows there is enough of it for ten seasons without having to provide crossover excuses for other franchises.So how do you feel about them using Doom in season 2?

As for Magneto being such a large part of the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver mythos, its more of a footnote - one that came some 20 years after the characters were established in the Avengers - before that came to light. It really isn't part of the core of either character's characterization, really, except in X-Men based animation (and Byrne's unfortunate WCA run).When did I say that Magneto was such a large part of those two's mythos or part of the core of their characters? I just noted that he's their dad so he has reason to show up (that is, if they do) without a crossover with the X-Men.

No they don't have to, but you did advocate it. *shrugs* And you see, the Avengers never dealt with Galactus, or at least not as an Avengers story.I also noted early in this discussion that they wouldn't have to lower his power level, and beat him however they do in the comics.
So yeah, I suppose Hank Pym could go to the blue area of the moon and lift the Ultimate Nullifier or somesuch, while the main team beat up on (pick a random Herald here) - but its an FF story, and so re-writing it to be an Avengers story would be really pathetic.The FF wouldn't have to be excluded. I also don't think it'd be pathetic. Do you consider Vertigo's usage in B:TAS pathetic since he was traditionally a Green Arrow villain?

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 04:49 PM

So how do you feel about them using Doom in season 2?

He is .... DOOOM!

OK, so voice-over joke aside, how can I comment on something I haven't seen yet? Doom is primarily associated with the FF, but in the 1960's and 1970's he was the "Deadpool" of the Marvel Universe. Heck, he even fought Squirrel Girl (talk. about. jobbing.). He was one of the Kooky Quartet's first villains in a very young MU where there just weren't that many super-villains.

DOOOOOOOOOOM!

But honestly, I'd rather they hadn't put him in unless contextually (and I can think of a couple ways that could easily happen, starting with Doom's Time Machine and the fact that Kang's real name is Nathaniel Richards) it makes sense. Doom for Doom's sake, or as an excuse for an FF crossover would be lame.

Do you consider Vertigo's usage in B:TAS pathetic since he was traditionally a Green Arrow villain?if you think that's a reasonable analogy, boy are you missing the point. The Green Arrow rogues gallery (such as it is) is so small, and so relatively insignificant a part of the DCU that his usage in whatever context is irrelevant.

Now, if you want a good analogy, lets try having the season finale of Young Justice being Darkseid. Major villain, check. Associated with someone else's franchise, check. Severely over-used when writers get lazy? Check.

Capt. Speedbump

05-02-2011, 04:53 PM

So how do you feel about them using Doom in season 2?

I know this question is for Meddinus, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in.

I was actually a bit surprised when I heard Doom was going to be in Season 2, because I really would prefer they use more Avenger-centric villains. However, I'm more comfortable with using Doom than Galactus because

1. Doom has appeared in a few Avengers books, and is almost more of a Marvel-wide villain than any other character in Marvel. Galactus, to my knowledge (which admittedly can be feeble) has not actually appeared in any Avengers stories; he's mostly in FF, and has appeared in Thor a few times admittedly.

2. It sounds like the FF will actually have a significant part in the Doom story themselves, which I think is better than Doom and the Avengers alone.

3. As Meddinus pointed out, "battles" with Galactus are not typically the kind of epic fights that are seen in Avengers; the Ultimate Nullifier can actually be somewhat anti-climactic.

4. If you do include Doom (which they are), I'd hope that would be the extent of their borrowing from the FF; a little is good to establish the greater Marvel Universe as a whole, but I would like it to be Avengers-centric.

As I've said before, if they make a new FF series, bring on Galactus ASAP. But until then...

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 04:58 PM

I know this question is for Meddinus, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in.

Don't stand on ceremony on my account! The more the merrier, says I!

Of courses, I like a good argument...

Barbossa

05-02-2011, 05:10 PM

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 05:46 PM

Whose idea was it to put Wanda and Quicksilver with the Avengers they just seem out of place in that team, the comics don't always get it right .They fit in better with the x universe the last two x men shows has proven that

Wanda was terrible in the Iron man and 90s Avengers show and Marvel knows that

It was Stan Lee's idea the creator of the Marvel Universe.

In Avengers #16, Iron Man, Giant Man, Wasp and Thor all took leaves-of-absence, leaving Captain America as the only Avenger left, plus three criminals who sought to reform and fight on the right side of justice (SPOOOOOOOOON!). These were:

* Hawkeye, who had fought Iron Man on behalf of the Russian spy, the Black Widow.
* The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, both of whom had been forced into the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, but wanted no part of Magneto's villainy.

This is known as "Cap's Kooky Quartet", and they would last until Wasp and Hank Pym - trapped in size at about 20' - rejoined the team when threatened by the menace of Attuma (Vol. 1 #26).

The Scarlet Witch then went on to spend the next - what? Forty years? As an Avenger. Virtually of her characterization happened in the Avengers. She was never a member of the X-Men, and never a recurring character of their franchise in the MU616.

IMO, the "Farce Works" Iron Man cartoon and the Avengers cartoon were both utter travesties of the characters therein, and the Scarlet Witch of "X-Men Evolution" unrecognizable as the Scarlet Witch. Similarly, the W&tXM is closer to her comic character... in the Avengers.

Capt. Speedbump

05-02-2011, 08:01 PM

Medinnus

05-02-2011, 08:58 PM

Sorry I misspelled your name Medinnus (two N's, not D's)!

All this thinking about Galactus has made me realize that although 52 episodes is a lot as far as many animated series go, when you have a series that encompasses not just the Avengers, but Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, West Coast Avengers, parts of the Fantastic Four, and so much more of the Marvel Universe, it will barely scratch the surface!

I know, right?

I once - as an exercise - did a treatment of Captain America: The Animated Series, five seasons, fourteen episodes per season (I have no idea why I didn't pick either 13 or 26, but it was a long time ago), and operating under the guidelines of the time (sometime around A:UTS). This is what it looked like:

http://www.medinnus.com/winghead/ca_an.html

It taught me a lot about appreciating episodic writers.and what they go through to make sense out of established continuity and restrictions.

macattack

05-03-2011, 11:15 AM

I know, right?

I once - as an exercise - did a treatment of Captain America: The Animated Series, five seasons, fourteen episodes per season (I have no idea why I didn't pick either 13 or 26, but it was a long time ago), and operating under the guidelines of the time (sometime around A:UTS). This is what it looked like:

http://www.medinnus.com/winghead/ca_an.html

It taught me a lot about appreciating episodic writers.and what they go through to make sense out of established continuity and restrictions.

Hey, I made one of those too, only for Spider-Man about 3 or 4 years ago. And I made it 75 episodes cause I like torturing myself. :sweat:

Nice to know I'm not the only "loser" who "wastes his time" on stuff like that even if it's only an exercise.

Medinnus

05-03-2011, 11:29 AM

Hey, I made one of those too, only for Spider-Man about 3 or 4 years ago. And I made it 75 episodes cause I like torturing myself. :sweat:

Nice to know I'm not the only "loser" who "wastes his time" on stuff like that even if it's only an exercise.

*high-fives his spiritual Brother*

Barbossa

05-03-2011, 05:12 PM

It was Stan Lee's idea the creator of the Marvel Universe.

In Avengers #16, Iron Man, Giant Man, Wasp and Thor all took leaves-of-absence, leaving Captain America as the only Avenger left, plus three criminals who sought to reform and fight on the right side of justice (SPOOOOOOOOON!). These were:

* Hawkeye, who had fought Iron Man on behalf of the Russian spy, the Black Widow.
* The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, both of whom had been forced into the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, but wanted no part of Magneto's villainy.

This is known as "Cap's Kooky Quartet", and they would last until Wasp and Hank Pym - trapped in size at about 20' - rejoined the team when threatened by the menace of Attuma (Vol. 1 #26).

The Scarlet Witch then went on to spend the next - what? Forty years? As an Avenger. Virtually of her characterization happened in the Avengers. She was never a member of the X-Men, and never a recurring character of their franchise in the MU616.

IMO, the "Farce Works" Iron Man cartoon and the Avengers cartoon were both utter travesties of the characters therein, and the Scarlet Witch of "X-Men Evolution" unrecognizable as the Scarlet Witch. Similarly, the W&tXM is closer to her comic character... in the Avengers.

Wtxm Wanda is closer to her comic character because she is in an X men show ,see. It does not matter if X men Evo Wanda was unrecognizable its still Wanda and the character was great on the show

Wow so 40 years with the the Avengers I would never have known that cause her character fits in perfectly in the x men shows while out of place in the other shows

If she wants to play hero why not join the x men ,that will really make her dad mad.I guess she was tired with the discrimination in the x universe As for Quicksilver Marvel just wanted the Flash on the Avengers team

Also her love interest Vision wow a robot even her love interest in the Ultimate comics Quicksilver makes more sense that that.I can just see it now from Nightcrawler in WATXM to Vision on this show thats a downgrade IMO

suss2it

05-03-2011, 05:28 PM

He is .... DOOOM!

OK, so voice-over joke aside, how can I comment on something I haven't seen yet?That's exactly what we've been doing in regard to Galactus though.

if you think that's a reasonable analogy, boy are you missing the point. The Green Arrow rogues gallery (such as it is) is so small, and so relatively insignificant a part of the DCU that his usage in whatever context is irrelevant.If anything, wouldn't a smaller Rogues Gallery mean you have less to spare? And besides Galactus is a MU threat. In the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy it wasn't just the Ultimate Fantastic Four that dealt with him (it?).

Now, if you want a good analogy, lets try having the season finale of Young Justice being Darkseid. Major villain, check. Associated with someone else's franchise, check. Severely over-used when writers get lazy? Check.Actually I'm fairly certain the Young Justice team in the comics tangled with Darkseid on at least one occasion. And Darkseid is a DC Universe villain, not exclusive to any particular Rogues Gallery as far as I'm aware.

Wtxm Wanda is closer to her comic character because she is in an X men show ,see. It does not matter if X men Evo Wanda was unrecognizable its still Wanda and the character was great on the showI wouldn't go as far as to say she was great, but Evo Wanda was definitely interesting. But how does being associated with the X-Men automatically make her like her comic-book character, when in the comics she's known as an Avenger?

If she wants to play hero why not join the x men ,that will really make her dad mad.I don't think she's hero just to piss off her dad.

Also her love interest Vision wow a robot even her love interest in the Ultimate comics Quicksilver makes more sense that that.I can just see it now from Nightcrawler in WATXM to Vision on this show thats a downgrade IMOHer brother is a better love interest than a sentient robot? :shrug:

Medinnus

05-03-2011, 05:41 PM

That's exactly what we've been doing in regard to Galactus though.

No, wer'e discussed what I consider to be a very flawed concept of stealing a signature villain for another franchise with far more interesting potential concepts coming out their ear. IMO, There is no compelling reason to use him, on the face of it, except to stroke the egos of the FF fanboys who want their favorite franchise to get props. Not being a particular fan of either the FF or Galactus, I'd rather they kept away from anything but a very occasional guest appearance (or cameos, like so far).

If anything, wouldn't a smaller Rogues Gallery mean you have less to spare?
Green Arrow is a B-class hero with a C-class rogues gallery. Who cares?

When the franchise's rogues gallery that most people have to Wiki the villain, I think the question loses all significance - and Vertigo is just that insignificant. He's had more screen time in others' franchises that he ever had in Green Arrow's.

And besides Galactus is a MU threat. In the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy it wasn't just the Ultimate Fantastic Four that dealt with him (it?).The only resemblance of the MU616 Galactus to the Ultimate version was the name. There is no correlation, just as you can't justify a Vision starring role because the Ultimate Vision was so cool.

I wouldn't go as far as to say she was great, but Evo Wanda was definitely interesting. From a literary standpoint she was not interesting in the least. YMMV

The personality they gave Wanda in W&tXM was significantly closer to her MU616 personality.

I don't think she's hero just to piss off her dad.Clearly, you do not have a teenage daughter. :D

Her brother is a better love interest than a sentient robot? :shrug:Must...not... make... Kentucky... joke...

Medinnus

05-03-2011, 05:47 PM

Wtxm Wanda is closer to her comic character because she is in an X men show ,see. It does not matter if X men Evo Wanda was unrecognizable its still Wanda and the character was great on the show

The concept of distinct characterization is that a character has particular behavior characteristics and habits. If you remove those, you no longer have a character, you have a mannequin in a costume. You may like the X-Men Emo version of the Scarlet Witch, but she is so far different from the character as to be an entirely different character.

Using the same name is NOT characterization. :D

Wow so 40 years with the the Avengers I would never have known that cause her character fits in perfectly in the x men shows while out of place in the other shows

Try reading some of the source material to the cartoons you like.

RONDC20

05-03-2011, 06:15 PM

*high-fives his spiritual Brother*

I actually also did the same thing with a New Warriors animated series. I had the original 6 members Night Thrasher. Nova, Speedball, Namorita, Firestar and Marvel Boy.

I'm thinking about finishing it and perhaps posting it somewhere.

I really think that a New Warriors animated series could be Marvel Animations answer to Teen Titans and Young Justice.

That and I also think that a Power Pack animated show could also work for a younger audience.

Ok back to the Avengers. Now I'm not gonna get into this whole what villians should and should not appear on the show. Personally I would not mind seeing Dr Doom and/or Galactus on this show. Cameos by thw FF are also welcome.

But my question is if anyonw knows if season 2 will downgrade to 13 episodes or retain it's 26 episodes format.

Also do any of you think that the show would have been better if it had gotten a TVPG rating rather than a TVY7 rating? Personally I like the show just fine with a TVY7 rating, but the only reason I bring it up is because a friend of mine mentioned that he thinks the show would be better if it had a TVPG rating like Young Justice has.

I think he is totally wrong. I like AEMH way more than YJ. I find YJ to be rather boring and underwhelming, except for perhaps the episode where Aqualad goes to Atlantis. Thats the only stand out episode IMO, but I'm not gonna sit here and rant about what I don't like about YJ.

I don't think that the TVY7 rating makes a differance at all. Avengers is much more exciting and action packed that YJ and they have a TVPG rating meaning they could get away with a lot more stuff. It's kind of ironic that AEMH has more action.

suss2it

05-03-2011, 06:21 PM

Green Arrow is a B-class hero with a C-class rogues gallery. Who cares

When the franchise's rogues gallery that most people have to Wiki the villain, I think the question loses all significance - and Vertigo is just that insignificant. He's had more screen time in others' franchises that he ever had in Green Arrow's.But most of the villains you listed are C-class.

Except that if they have to resort to Magneto, or Doctor Octopus, then they're being lazy. Of hundreds of potential stories, the ones that rise to the top are Magneto and Doc Ock? The only reason those would be better stories than, say, Count Nefaria, the Secret Empire, the Serpent Crown (et al), the Collector, the Squadron Sinister, Zodiac, Immortus, the Lethal Legion, the Legion of the Unliving, the Sons of the Serpent, Diablo, the Super-Adaptoid, the Circus of Crime, the Grandmaster, Thanos, the Celestial Madonna (et al), Arkon, the Living Bombs, the Lady Liberators, Warhawk, the Space Phanton, the Lion God (!), the Evil Eye, the Mad Thinker (and Andy!), the Stranger, the Assassin, the Badoon, Korvac, Cthon, the Elements of DOOM!, the Taskmaster, the Red Skull, Roxxon Corp, Justin Hammer, Egghead, David Letterman, Morgan LeFay, the Wraiths, the Deviants of Lemuria, the Beyonder, Terminus, the Lunatic Legion, Heavy Metal, the Super-Axis (either as a group under the Red Skull, or as individuals The only non C-Class villain you listed was David Lettermen, and really only Jay Leno would consider him a villain.

The only resemblance of the MU616 Galactus to the Ultimate version was the name. There is no correlation, just as you can't justify a Vision starring role because the Ultimate Vision was so cool.Both devour planets, therefore are planetary threats and both use the Silver Surfer. My point was however, that Galactus has been shown to be a planetary threat that would require more than just the Fantastic Four to deal with.

Avengers

05-03-2011, 06:25 PM

So I just picked up the DVDs for Avengers and they mentioned that to combat the efforts of the skrull Furry has assembled (haha) a group who are aware of the invasion to combat it (I believe that it was six but i am not sure) but who do you think will be the members of the group

my guess would be:
1) mockingbird- she clearly saw the skrulls are doing this so i am assuming she is their
2) widow- not sure why but if she is still working for him (have not seen last episodes so i am assuming this from the ending of episode 16)
3) captain Marv-el- if he has come back to earth since he went to confront the Kree he would definatly be their
4) Ms. Marvel- What else has she been doing this whole time
5) ????
6)?????

What do you all think?

Barbossa

05-03-2011, 06:35 PM

I'm trying to read the source material but its too much

About Wanda in Evo hmm lets see,her dad is Magneto,her brother is Quicksilver,
Agatha Harkness helps her control her powers, Toad has a crush on her ,member of the Brotherhood, hex powers ,was the only member of the Brotherhood interested in saving the world in the last episode. I'm sure theres more, but seems like Wanda to me
Anyway if Wanda does not join the team on this show then its clear that the people behind the show agree with me on this.Forty years is a long time not to be included in this show

I look forward in seeing Wanda ....on the next X men show

Captain Travis

05-03-2011, 07:22 PM

I found some pics of next season characters!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XTkZzjb34H8/TbwpKSoe91I/AAAAAAAAChA/j6kgvmWtyZI/s1600/vlcsnap-00008.jpg
Vison
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ls6wGpQ1RYQ/TbwpKh8FARI/AAAAAAAAChE/dErzoqgQxCs/s1600/vlcsnap-00009.jpg
Ultimate Nick Fury
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gQbBZDXO3PU/TbwpLdMmTnI/AAAAAAAAChQ/NW8ANpNfwSo/s1600/vlcsnap-00012.jpg
DOCTOR DOOM!!!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GD75qcqH9oU/TbwpK7AJ7zI/AAAAAAAAChI/Bu_t8RDjkKI/s1600/vlcsnap-00010.jpg
Guardians of the Galaxy
:wakko: :yakko:

suss2it

05-03-2011, 07:56 PM

Those are from the season 2 sneak peaks on the DVDs.

Here's Ms. Marvel.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm302/suss2it/vlcsnap-2011-04-30-18h11m38s103.png

Captain Travis

05-03-2011, 08:06 PM

Sweeeeet!!

Sockie

05-03-2011, 08:24 PM

Don't forget this pic showcasing Falcon and Invisible Woman.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OhSpKR9zs_4/TbwpLFgBrRI/AAAAAAAAChM/-FVjvv-YWJA/s320/vlcsnap-00011.jpg

BigEclipse

05-03-2011, 08:32 PM

Wait, did I just catch a Rocket Racoon sighting? I am more than anticipating this second season. Doom looks really good and if they're giving Fury his Ultimate look then there's no reason why this series and Ultimate Spidey can't share a universe.

BigEclipse

05-03-2011, 08:33 PM

Those are from the season 2 sneak peaks on the DVDs.

Here's Ms. Marvel.

Swoon...

Captain Travis

05-03-2011, 08:44 PM

Medinnus

05-03-2011, 08:55 PM

Anyway if Wanda does not join the team on this show then its clear that the people behind the show agree with me on this.

Not at all. She was licensed to the W&tXM show, which means when the PTB on the Avengers planned their seasons she couldn't be included. Licensing issues don't mean you are either right or wrong; it means its how we got H.E.R.B.I.E. in the Fantastic Four... /shudder

If she's not included with season three you might have a point... but I'm sure a special wig will hide it. /rimshot

About the second season spoiler pictures -they rock!

jph139

05-03-2011, 09:01 PM

Kinda disappointed they're going full on Samuel L. Jackson with Fury; I really liked their "half-and-half" version. But, eh, no big deal. Doom looks great (though it's tough to screw up Doom), and THE GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY! Groot! Rocket Raccoon! Very exciting.

Still hyped for Ms. Marvel above all else, though. And I'm holding out hope we get the more heroic strain of Wonder Man, too... even if he doesn't join the team, seeing him reformed would be great.

Dragnatek

05-03-2011, 09:16 PM

Munkiman

05-03-2011, 10:13 PM

I think my main problem with having Galactus as the final villain in A:EMH is that it would be like if Sinestro had been the villain in the Superman cartoon's finale. No matter how big of a threat he is to the MU as a whole, Galactus is associated most with the Fantastic Four. The only major, season-ending villains on an Avengers show should be foes of Avengers members, or of the team as a whole. Dr. Doom I would give the most leeway to, probably, but only for a season finale, certainly not the series - and even that is stretching it, an episode or two in the middle of the season would be best for Doom.

The new pics look great. I didn't know we'd be getting the Falcon, too! That's awesome, and it probably means more Cap-centric episodes, too.

Although I did like the half-Ultimate look for Nick Fury, too bad that he's changed it, though we don't really know the context

Medinnus

05-03-2011, 11:09 PM

GOOD POINT! All we can do is hope!

...wouldn't it be a kick in the head if Ultimate Spider-Man was part of Fury's seckret skrull squad? )

RONDC20

05-04-2011, 01:04 AM

I guess my post got overshadowed by these pics, which look great BTW. I love Vision's design and Im excited to see Falcon.

So did I make anyone mad here that they would just gloss my post in which I had some interesting questions and comments? Or was it just an oversight.......Im sorry I don't mean to sound bitter or sarcastic. It's just that one of my pet peves is being ignored.

I'm sure none of you ment to ignore my post on purpose.

ktk

05-04-2011, 02:53 AM

Great pics! Glad to see them (since I'll be waiting for the full season to pick up this show on dvd).

JLU Dude

05-04-2011, 03:36 AM

Not at all. She was licensed to the W&tXM show, which means when the PTB on the Avengers planned their seasons she couldn't be included. Licensing issues don't mean you are either right or wrong; it means its how we got H.E.R.B.I.E. in the Fantastic Four... /shudder

If she's not included with season three you might have a point... but I'm sure a special wig will hide it. /rimshot

About the second season spoiler pictures -they rock!

Seeing as Marvel were the producers W&tXM, Super Hero Squad, and Avengers, this would mean she could appear. Not saying I agree with Barbossa--because in all honestly I don't, I also wish Wanda would appear on the show, and wish Marvel would take Bendis off the Avengers and restore the classic members, including Wanda--but the Spectacular Spider-Man was the only show in in the past few years that Marvel didn't produce.

Captain Travis

05-04-2011, 07:00 AM

...wouldn't it be a kick in the head if Ultimate Spider-Man was part of Fury's seckret skrull squad? )

it truly would :)

Medinnus

05-04-2011, 08:11 AM

Seeing as Marvel were the producers W&tXM, Super Hero Squad, and Avengers, this would mean she could appear. Not saying I agree with Barbossa--because in all honestly I don't, I also wish Wanda would appear on the show, and wish Marvel would take Bendis off the Avengers and restore the classic members, including Wanda--but the Spectacular Spider-Man the only show in in the past few years that Marvel didn't produce.

She might make an appearance, sure, but her inclusion as a major plot character (as ruler of Genosha) would have precluded her from joining the team.

In other news...

Phylla-Vell is the daughter of the non-Ultimate Mar-Vell and Elysius (Terran Eternal-ish woman). Clearly, that origin will need to be re-structured a bit...

Bat-Fan Beyond

05-04-2011, 08:21 AM

...wouldn't it be a kick in the head if Ultimate Spider-Man was part of Fury's seckret skrull squad? )

Now that would be awesome!

Capt. Speedbump

05-04-2011, 08:48 AM

So did I make anyone mad here that they would just gloss my post in which I had some interesting questions and comments? Or was it just an oversight.......Im sorry I don't mean to sound bitter or sarcastic. It's just that one of my pet peves is being ignored.

I'm sure none of you ment to ignore my post on purpose.

But my question is if anyonw knows if season 2 will downgrade to 13 episodes or retain it's 26 episodes format.

Also do any of you think that the show would have been better if it had gotten a TVPG rating rather than a TVY7 rating? Personally I like the show just fine with a TVY7 rating, but the only reason I bring it up is because a friend of mine mentioned that he thinks the show would be better if it had a TVPG rating like Young Justice has.

I think he is totally wrong. I like AEMH way more than YJ. I find YJ to be rather boring and underwhelming, except for perhaps the episode where Aqualad goes to Atlantis. Thats the only stand out episode IMO, but I'm not gonna sit here and rant about what I don't like about YJ.

I don't think that the TVY7 rating makes a differance at all. Avengers is much more exciting and action packed that YJ and they have a TVPG rating meaning they could get away with a lot more stuff. It's kind of ironic that AEMH has more action.

I must have mentioned in at least four previous posts that episode 52 has finished pre-production, meaning 26 eps for season 2, as was planned from the beginning. NOW who's ignoring posts? :p

The tv rating is completely arbitrary, IMHO. If I watched the 19 A:EMH episodes and the 9 episodes of YJ without knowing the ratings, then someone told me to guess which is Y7 and which is PG, I'd pretty much have to toss a coin.

ktk

05-04-2011, 12:44 PM

Phylla-Vell is the daughter of the non-Ultimate Mar-Vell and Elysius (Terran Eternal-ish woman). Clearly, that origin will need to be re-structured a bit...

They probably don't see a need to give an origin for each one-off character. I don't think we need an origin for each individual member of the GOTG. A lot of characters in Season 1 didn't get a proper origin, only the really big ones, like Graviton and Kang.

Sockie

05-04-2011, 02:14 PM

Chris Yost has revealed the title for the first episode of season two on his Twitter account... "The Private War of Dr. Doom."

http://twitter.com/#!/yost/status/65823230786678784

seen 20 or so of the season 2 eps, so it's on it's way. S2 starts with a little tale called 'The Private War of Doctor Doom.'

Aquaman OS

05-04-2011, 03:40 PM

Dr Doom in the first ep? How....odd..... I would have expected them to start with a Kree-Skrull based ep to set the overall arc of the season.

Medinnus

05-04-2011, 03:49 PM

Dr Doom in the first ep? How....odd..... I would have expected them to start with a Kree-Skrull based ep to set the overall arc of the season.

That was Tony Stark's dad's name.

'Howodd' Stark.

BigEclipse

05-04-2011, 04:43 PM

CyclonatorZ

05-04-2011, 04:56 PM

The designs look great for the most part. However, I am really getting sick of female characters who all have legs twice the length of their torsos. Seriously, it looks like the lower part of their bodies kept growing until age 40 or something. :shrug:

Avengers

05-04-2011, 07:47 PM

Medinnus

05-04-2011, 08:52 PM

1) mockingbird- she clearly saw the skrulls are doing this so i am assuming she is their
2) widow- not sure why but if she is still working for him (have not seen last episodes so i am assuming this from the ending of episode 16)
3) captain Marv-el- if he has come back to earth since he went to confront the Kree he would definatly be their
4) Ms. Marvel- What else has she been doing this whole time
5) ????
6)?????

Well, "if I ran the zoo", I'd assign Fury the following:

AEMH Continuity:

1 - Ms. Marvel - She's already a SHIELD agent.

2 - Mockingbird - She knows about the Skrull Viper at the very least.

3 - The Black Widow - She was searching for Fury after he went underground to clear herself, so... why not? :D

I wouldn't have Captain Mar-Vell anywhere near - he's just another alien. besides, he's off trying to convince the Supremor that we're more valuable as allies than as a planet of corpses.

4 - The Falcon - Sam Wilson was a SHIELD agent before he was CA's partner (see CA #117)

5 - Quasar - Wendell Vaughn was a SHIELD agent before he came to possess the Quantum Bands, and then he was part of the SHIELD Super-Agent program.

6 - War Machine - Totally speculative, except that with his background as a pilot, his military background, and potentially with access to Stark's armory, I can see him being recruited by Fury.

I'm hoping that he is also running some SHIELD agents on a sub-rosa basis; perhaps Jimmy Woo, perhaps Clay Quartermain, perhaps Eric Koenig. Using Sharon Carter would be a nice introduction to the Skrull imposter who shall not be named.

Edit - Later

or perhaps I'd abuse my authority as Nick Fury to form the Thunderbolts out of incarcerated criminals that Pym had hopes of reforming...

Munkiman

05-04-2011, 11:03 PM

Also do any of you think that the show would have been better if it had gotten a TVPG rating rather than a TVY7 rating? Personally I like the show just fine with a TVY7 rating, but the only reason I bring it up is because a friend of mine mentioned that he thinks the show would be better if it had a TVPG rating like Young Justice has.

I think he is totally wrong. I like AEMH way more than YJ. I find YJ to be rather boring and underwhelming, except for perhaps the episode where Aqualad goes to Atlantis. Thats the only stand out episode IMO, but I'm not gonna sit here and rant about what I don't like about YJ.

I don't think that the TVY7 rating makes a differance at all. Avengers is much more exciting and action packed that YJ and they have a TVPG rating meaning they could get away with a lot more stuff. It's kind of ironic that AEMH has more action.

I honestly did not know that the ratings were any different. I haven't noticed any differences at all in terms of content. I mean, YJ has a darker tone, but A:EMH isn't going for that so it's not an issue.

The designs look great for the most part. However, I am really getting sick of female characters who all have legs twice the length of their torsos. Seriously, it looks like the lower part of their bodies kept growing until age 40 or something. :shrug:

I'm not seeing it. In the pic where Invisible Woman and Mar-Vell are standing on the same level, they're almost the same height and their legs are the same length.

Aquaman OS

05-05-2011, 12:33 AM

Nick's team could just be the Secret Warriors that he formed in the comics. However just about the entire team are B list characters that rarely appear.

Medinnus

05-05-2011, 12:47 AM

Nick's team could just be the Secret Warriors that he formed in the comics. However just about the entire team are B list characters that rarely appear.

Could be, but if one is going to introduce the progeny of villains who are not yet introduced, let alone used, it becomes unnecessarily confusing. For example "She's Mr. Hyde's daughter... oh, you don't know who Mr. Hyde is?..."

At that point you're better off just using other people already introduced.

James Harvey

05-05-2011, 10:25 AM

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Capt. Speedbump

05-05-2011, 11:16 AM

From the interview with Josh Fine:

"Short of the world ending early (the Mayan calendar was wrong!) I can’t really envision a scenario where fans don’t get to see these episodes. The second season is already mostly completed. Over half of the episodes have already been finished, mastered, locked up, and are just waiting to air. The rest are in various stages of post production. Barring any unforeseen disasters, production of the second season should be all finished up during the summer."

So that's that, 52 episodes. Case closed.

Any discussion about a third season is still fair game...

Sockie

05-05-2011, 12:16 PM

It's probably part of the build-up to the Secret Invasion story arc. I think it's been said that the first 6-7 episodes of season 2 are about the Secret Invasion.

I have to wonder if it's just a coincidence that there was also a Doom story in Mighty Avengers that led straight into Secret Invasion...

ShadowStar

05-05-2011, 12:21 PM

Dr Doom in the first ep? How....odd..... I would have expected them to start with a Kree-Skrull based ep to set the overall arc of the season.

It's probably part of the build-up to the Secret Invasion story arc. I think it's been said that the first 6-7 episodes of season 2 are about the Secret Invasion.

I'm really surprised that they've completed 20 or so season 2 eps already! Wasn't it just last month that 13 were in the can, and now it's being reported that 20 are done?!

Also, I love the title of the season 2 premiere.

About the redesigns for season 2... Thor's new look is OK, Iron Man's one is all right (though I'd rather they keep the circle or ditch it altogether instead of inexplicably going with a triangle), but Hulk looks silly with the stretchy pants and as for Cap... It's not just the fact that they've ditched the wings, but also the fact that they've thrown some grey in there (what the hell?), under the arms for instance, and they've also given the white star on his chest a black outline. I think it's a lame look.

I have to wonder if it's just a coincidence that there was also a Doom story in Mighty Avengers that led straight into Secret Invasion...

I tweaked my post and then decided to re-post the whole thing, but didn't see your reply in time, sorry. Whether Doom's story goes a long way towards furthering the Secret Invasion arc or not, I hope the Fantastic Four appear. It would be only right to have them there at the same time as Doom.

I'm starting to wonder if we're getting a Civil War arc or not?

RONDC20

05-05-2011, 01:53 PM

Ok so 26 episodes for season 2. Now I know. I appologise if I was a pain about this. I should have paid more attention to earlier posts. Sorry Capt Speedbump.

Like I said before the rating does not matter to me at all. All that matters is that it's a well written show, with well written characters and stories. Good action and animation.

I hate these people who won't watch things based on what it's rated. I know some people who wont watch anything below an R rating because they think anything below that automatically sucks. So stupid.

so a season 3 is almost confirmed right? So we already know what we'll see in season 2 and speculated. Is it too early to speculate on season 3?

My guess is that by season 3 we will see The X-Men guest star. Be it the same X-Men from WATX or not. I would not mind seeing She-Hulk appear in season 3. I would also love to see Beast join the team and his friendship with Wonder Man develop.

That reminds me does anyone know if Wonder Man becomes good in season 2 and joins the Avengers?

Medinnus

05-05-2011, 02:35 PM

so a season 3 is almost confirmed right? So we already know what we'll see in season 2 and speculated. Is it too early to speculate on season 3?

Not even close. I suspect we won't hear anything about Season Three until more than halfway done with Season Two. I don't mind being wrong if they announce good news earlier, though.

My guess is that by season 3 we will see The X-Men guest star. Be it the same X-Men from WATX or not. I would not mind seeing She-Hulk appear in season 3. I would also love to see Beast join the team and his friendship with Wonder Man develop.

I can easily see the attraction of making Season Three revolve around various "Children of the Atom"; a lot of the Avengers history is built around Magneto either indirectly (the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver having originally been part of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants - although "coerced" is more accurate, in their case) or directly.

While not as ..promiscious?... as Dr. Doom, Magneto got around a lot in the early MU (trying to re-acquire Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch in the 1960's - circa Avengers 58 or so), Magneto and his Savage Land mutates in the 1970's (circa Avengers 112), facing off against the WCA in the 1980's, etc. as well.

Likewise, the Avengers saw some action against Sentinels without any X-Men involvement; the X-Men themselves were almost never seen in the Avengers, even if their traditional villains were.

The only restriction I can see is if they've already dedicated the X-men to their own series, and that's part of the stuff Loeb has referred to as "in the works but not going to announce until 2012" or whatever.

ShadowStar

05-05-2011, 02:51 PM

I have a couple of questions:

1) Does the Vision have telepathy or telekinesis? I just realised that none of the current eight Avengers possess either of those skills.

2) With Ron Perlman and Kevin Conroy confirmed to voice characters in season 2, anyone think that Ron Perlman is voicing Ronan the Accuser and that Kevin Conroy is voicing Winter Soldier? The latter only works if Bucky is all grown-up when we see him again.

That reminds me does anyone know if Wonder Man becomes good in season 2 and joins the Avengers?

Fingers crossed.

Sockie

05-05-2011, 02:55 PM

1) Does the Vision have telepathy or telekinesis? I just realised that none of the current eight Avengers possess either of those skills.

No. His abilities include super strength, flight, and density control (able to make himself intangible or diamond-hard), but no psychic powers.

ShadowStar

05-05-2011, 02:59 PM

No. His abilities include super strength, flight, and density control (able to make himself intangible or diamond-hard), but no psychic powers.

Ah, thanks. I had completely forgotten, as it's been a while since I read any Avengers comics.

Captain Travis

05-05-2011, 03:07 PM

I have a couple of questions:

1) Does the Vision have telepathy or telekinesis? I just realised that none of the current eight Avengers possess either of those skills.

2) With Ron Perlman and Kevin Conroy confirmed to voice characters in season 2, anyone think that Ron Perlman is voicing Ronan the Accuser and that Kevin Conroy is voicing Winter Soldier? The latter only works if Bucky is all grown-up when we see him again.

Fingers crossed.
When were Perlman and Conroy confirmed?

ShadowStar

05-05-2011, 03:20 PM

When were Perlman and Conroy confirmed?

A few people were saying it on this forum recently, and there was a link to an article where they were both mentioned as contributing voices to this series.

macattack

05-05-2011, 03:35 PM

*high-fives his spiritual Brother*

A belated thanks.

I also have a 1 season, 26-episode treatment of a Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow series lying around somewhere. In a week or so I could probably turn it into a full-fledged series bible complete with a pilot episode.

I basically took the movie and fleshed it out into 26 episodes, made James less of a bonehead when he finds the robo-Avengers (instead Ultron simply tracks the Vision down), and threw in some of my own ideas. There's a fun two-part Wolverine/Sabertooth-guest star arc in there, and I gave the new Hawkeye (Francis Barton) a new Mockingbird sister, for example.

Anyway, back on topic, I remember hearing that Perlman and Conroy are involved in the second season, but I can't remember the source (it may have been the site that can't be named). Conroy voicing Winter Soldier would be undeniably badass, though.

I am curious how they're going to fit Vision in here, though. Ms. Marvel is pretty obvious (she's probably going to replace a departing member after Secret Invasion is over) but I don't know how they're going to introduce Vision logically. Of course, it may help once I see the pair of Ultron episodes from the first season.

CyclonatorZ

05-05-2011, 03:47 PM

I'm not seeing it. In the pic where Invisible Woman and Mar-Vell are standing on the same level, they're almost the same height and their legs are the same length.

It might look like that to you, but when you compare the two character designs....

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bk504/Other-stuff/weirdproportions.png

...there is clearly a significant discrepancy between the proportions of the male and female characters. Invisible woman has legs that are exactly twice as long as her relatively tiny torso, while Mar-Vell has legs only one and a half-times as long as his somewhat taller torso. Miss Marvel suffers from the same extremely exaggerated female proportions, and in still frames it gives these characters the apperance that their lower halves kept on growing long after their torsos fully matured. It's a problem that I've noticed most modern comic books also suffer from, and it really irritates me because it doesn't convey a true sense of the feminine shape. Not even the most gorgeous real-life supermodels have proportions like that, and certainly not the average woman athelete.

Of course, it probably won't look as bad in motion, which comic books don't have the advantage of, but as it stands its incredibly jarring to look at.

Medinnus

05-05-2011, 03:48 PM

I also have a 1 season, 26-episode treatment of a Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow series lying around somewhere.

That sounded like something I'd watch!

I am curious how they're going to fit Vision in here, though. Ms. Marvel is pretty obvious (she's probably going to replace a departing member after Secret Invasion is over) but I don't know how they're going to introduce Vision logically. Of course, it may help once I see the pair of Ultron episodes from the first season.

Well, I don't know either, but perhaps it'll have something to do with the way Ultron used him in the comics - as a sleeper agent to turn against the Avengers from the inside?

RONDC20

05-05-2011, 03:58 PM

So season 3 is not almost confirmed, well I guess 52 episodes is not a bad run by today's animated superhero show standards.

Do you guys remmeber the days where 52 episodes and beyond were the norm when it came to animated supehero shows. Now it's a miracle if an animated superhero show makes it to 26 episodes let alone 52.

BTAS got 109 episodes
STAS got 54 episodes
BB got 52 episodes
JL/JLU got 91 episodes in total
TT got 65 episodes
Heck even The Batman (Which I hate BTW) got 65 episodes.

And thats not even mentioning the various DTV movies that came out. (Yea I know Batman Mask of the Phantasm got a theatrical release) Since then animated superhero series have been getting the short end of the stick for one reason or another. Be it legal issues or financing or just your basic red tape that you and I dont understand or care about.

One of my all time favorite shows Legion of Superheroes got a measly 26 episodes and has not even recived a decent DVD Release.

Spectacular Spider-Man another favorite of mine also only 26 episodes.

Wolverine and The X-Men again a measly 26.

Meanwhile Ben 10 is in it's 3rd incarnation and is going on 130 episodes. How is that fair? Ben 10 as a franchise has got to be one of the most tired and worn out shows ever. They ran out of decent ideas a long time ago and are now zombies turning out underwhelming episode after underwhelming episode.

How is it that Ben 10 gets more episodes than Spider-Man?.......Yea I know it's because of toys and whatnot, but still.

So back to the show and it's 3rd season. Jack of Hearts anyone? Or Tigra? Like I said before She-Hulk or Beast?

Oh and Medinnus I did the same thing with a New Warriors Animated series as Marvel's answer to Teen Titans and Young Justice. Not sure how you feel about the New Warriors, but I could post it if your at all interested.

macattack

05-05-2011, 04:01 PM

That sounded like something I'd watch!

Well, I don't know either, but perhaps it'll have something to do with the way Ultron used him in the comics - as a sleeper agent to turn against the Avengers from the inside?

I hope it's something people would watch. I tried to make even the treatment rip-roaring exciting. Lots of action and I fit in some cameos by classic Marvel characters (Firestar fans get their due in spades, actually).

One thing I didn't remove was the darkness behind Ultron's rise. I gave Pym his parents back (Hank and Janet) to give Pym (who I formally named "Harold") a reason for his somewhat spoiled behavior, he still has his parents but no one else does. I gave Bruce Banner a daughter (named Rebecca or "Rikki", to hint she's named after Rick Jones) to throw in some spice too. I also altered the ending a bit to remove some illogical decisions and plot advances.

Blargh, why am I blabbing about this? Like it means anything.

. . . That may not be a bad thought there about Vision. I could see him planted as a sleeper agent, but that may be redundant after Secret Invasion is over with. I think everybody including the cast will be tired of sleeper agents after Secret Invasion ends. :sweat:

I hope that even though this is the "cosmic" season I hope things don't get too far out there. I think the Avengers are close to being ejected into the stratosphere already in the suspension-of-disbelief department (Kang's trilogy really pushed the envelope at the end).

I think that's my biggest fear about the show as it approaches the season 1 finale. How much further can the envelope be pushed before the show runs the risk of becoming too ridiculous?

RONDC20

05-05-2011, 04:21 PM

I dont think the show ran the risk of becoming too far fetched. What exactally about the Kang trilogy was too much? None of the episodes so far have been too unbeleviable to me, but I guess my suspension of disbelief is broader than yours.

I've seen all 26 epsiodes of season 1 and if you thought that the Kang trilogy was puching the envolope wait till you see the last 3 episodes of season 1, which I thought were just epic and all around great and to me nothing was too far fetched, but like I said my suspension is of disbelief is bigger. What exactally do you consider too much? Im curious. This is a Superhero Animated show after all.

Now if suddenly Captain America, Hawkeye, Wasp and Giant Man start breathing is space without the aid of space suits then thats going too far.

macattack

05-05-2011, 04:28 PM

I dont think the show ran the risk of becoming too far fetched. What exactally about the Kang trilogy was too much? None of the episodes so far have been too unbeleviable to me, but I guess my suspension of dis belief is broader than yours.

I'm just having an issue with so many episodes being a planet-wide threat. It gets old after a while.

suss2it

05-05-2011, 04:31 PM

I'm just having an issue with so many episodes being a planet-wide threat. It gets old after a while.

These are Earth's mightiest heroes, assembled to fight threats no one hero could withstand. It's expected that they're gonna be dealing with planet-wide threats on a near constant basis.

Medinnus

05-05-2011, 04:39 PM

These are Earth's mightiest heroes, assembled to fight threats no one hero could withstand. It's expected that they're gonna be dealing with planet-wide threats on a near constant basis.

*taps foot impatiently*

Still escaped inmates (http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/breakout_watch.html) to recapture!!!

I was highly entertained when they recaptured Mandrill. It doesn't all have to be "OMG! Thanos has stolen the Ultimate (Universe) Nullifier from the Watcher!" level stuff.

I'm probably alone in this, but I'd love to see some episodes that are solo-hero-centric, like the JLU used to do; there are a lot of elements from the Silver Age solo stories I'd like to see done as character pieces.

RONDC20

05-05-2011, 04:39 PM

Yea what suss2it said, Although Medinnus makes some good points. I would not mind seeing some simple day in the life type solo-hero-centric stories.

Captain Travis

05-05-2011, 07:27 PM

A few people were saying it on this forum recently, and there was a link to an article where they were both mentioned as contributing voices to this series.

well in that case Perlman as Ronan = awesome, but Conroy as the guy you suggested him for is a no for me too old. Conroy and Perlman are listed in the cast on Wikipedia with their roles but its Wikipedia sooo

Also I found another pic of Dr.Doom in AEMH
http://imageshack.us/f/830/doom1.png/

Capt. Speedbump

05-05-2011, 07:56 PM

Ok so 26 episodes for season 2. Now I know. I appologise if I was a pain about this. I should have paid more attention to earlier posts. Sorry Capt Speedbump.

Hey, I'm not, nor was I ever offended. Nothing wrong with wanting a response!

Like I said before the rating does not matter to me at all. All that matters is that it's a well written show, with well written characters and stories. Good action and animation.

I hate these people who won't watch things based on what it's rated. I know some people who wont watch anything below an R rating because they think anything below that automatically sucks. So stupid. .

Here's a quote that I think sums it up nicely:

Critics who treat "adult" as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adults themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence....When I was ten, I read fairytales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. — C. S. Lewis (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CSLewis), On Three Ways of Writing for Children

If you hear anything about Season 3, let me know!

Monte

05-06-2011, 09:20 AM

It might look like that to you, but when you compare the two character designs....

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/bk504/Other-stuff/weirdproportions.png

...there is clearly a significant discrepancy between the proportions of the male and female characters. Invisible woman has legs that are exactly twice as long as her relatively tiny torso, while Mar-Vell has legs only one and a half-times as long as his somewhat taller torso. Miss Marvel suffers from the same extremely exaggerated female proportions, and in still frames it gives these characters the apperance that their lower halves kept on growing long after their torsos fully matured. It's a problem that I've noticed most modern comic books also suffer from, and it really irritates me because it doesn't convey a true sense of the feminine shape. Not even the most gorgeous real-life supermodels have proportions like that, and certainly not the average woman athelete.

Of course, it probably won't look as bad in motion, which comic books don't have the advantage of, but as it stands its incredibly jarring to look at.

I disagree, i find the design to be quite attractive as it is. i might add that Hulk doesn't exactly have realistic shape either. While realism can make for a good character design, is by no means any kind of limitation. Often great character design is found in pushing beyond the realms of reality and exaggerating. What's often important in animation is not what's realistic but what's believable to the audience. If for instance the women were given proper human shape, many viewers might think the legs look short and unattractive despite the characters being based on real humans. Hell I once read that the character Bayonetta (from the video game of the same name) was based off of super models and yet i could never get over how tiny her head looked.

Marvell is given those proportions not because what normal human shape is like but because it helps exaggerate his muscles. the design is meant to make him feel strong and powerful. For Invisible woman, the focus is shifted to making her more attractive, which in general means exaggerating the legs, hips and bust. Hell in a sense this is often why i hate the appearance of liveaction superheroes. Superman looks great in his comicbook and animated incarnations, but you will have a hard time finding human actor who has the physical appearance that expresses such power... not to mention that while bright and colorful costumes look great in comics and cartoons, they often look horrible in real life

Do you guys remmeber the days where 52 episodes and beyond were the norm when it came to animated supehero shows. Now it's a miracle if an animated superhero show makes it to 26 episodes let alone 52.

I think the problem seems to mostly stem from there being multiple parties involved in the creation of these franchises. Even the production of the movies, due to licensing issues, can end up having an effect on what can be done on TV. When you want to start something or renew for another season you got to get everyone involved to agree. Shows like Ben 10 don't really suffer these issues because the only major party involved is cartoon network. There's no real hoops and hurdles that you need to go through to get the show renewed for another season. Frankly, nothing has really changed, its just that shows like spectacular spiderman, WatXM and Legion of superheroes just got tangled in business politics and the like.

Though granted i'm not sure how things things were done in the 90's, like how many seasons were confirmed at the start and how many times they needed to put the show up to get renewed... Its possible that over the years netwroks and studios have become less willing to commit themselves to multiple seasons and thus have taken more to judging series on a season by season basis; which means more chances for the show to be denied

King_of_doom

05-06-2011, 10:17 AM

well in that case Perlman as Ronan = awesome, but Conroy as the guy you suggested him for is a no for me too old. Conroy and Perlman are listed in the cast on Wikipedia with their roles but its Wikipedia sooo

Also I found another pic of Dr.Doom in AEMH
http://imageshack.us/f/830/doom1.png/
We just have to wait :).

Doom looks awesome, does anyone know if Paul Dobson will reprise the role of Doom?

Medinnus

05-06-2011, 10:19 AM

Though granted i'm not sure how things things were done in the 90's, like how many seasons were confirmed at the start and how many times they needed to put the show up to get renewed... Its possible that over the years netwroks and studios have become less willing to commit themselves to multiple seasons and thus have taken more to judging series on a season by season basis; which means more chances for the show to be denied

Before Marvel Studios, Marvel had a standard licensing deal - they sign away the rights, and the purchaser could pretty much do whatever they wanted to ruin it. :D

Renewals were - and are - a nail-biting exercise unless the property was a runaway hit. The Avengers being given approval for two seasons before having a channel is unprecedented and has its roots in using the show as marketing material for four movies - Thor, Captain America, Avengers, and Iron Man 3

Triant

05-06-2011, 11:48 AM

Oh and Medinnus I did the same thing with a New Warriors Animated series as Marvel's answer to Teen Titans and Young Justice. Not sure how you feel about the New Warriors, but I could post it if your at all interested.

*jumps up and down, waving arms*

I am! I am! :)

dmxx116

05-06-2011, 12:23 PM

We just have to wait :).

Doom looks awesome, does anyone know if Paul Dobson will reprise the role of Doom?I hope get Tom Kane to voice Doom in the Avengers:EMH like he did in Spider-Man TAS.

Captain Travis

05-06-2011, 02:20 PM

I hope get Tom Kane to voice Doom in the Avengers:EMH like he did in Spider-Man TAS.

Hope so he was better than Dobson in my opinion

suss2it

05-06-2011, 03:06 PM

I hope get Tom Kane to voice Doom in the Avengers:EMH like he did in Spider-Man TAS.

Haven't heard his Doom, but I he'd be awesome.

macattack

05-06-2011, 03:13 PM

Haven't heard his Doom, but I he'd be awesome.

Tom Kane's Doom even had the Eastern European accent, which was a really nice touch.

However, considering Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, plus Tom Kane's contemporary presence as two Marvel villains already (Magneto AND Ultron), I think they'll fly Paul Dobson down to LA.

RoryWilliams

05-06-2011, 04:29 PM

They should get whoever voiced Doom in MVC 3.

King_of_doom

05-06-2011, 05:33 PM

I hope get Tom Kane to voice Doom in the Avengers:EMH like he did in Spider-Man TAS.
I don't mind Tom Kane since he voiced some cool villains but Paul Dobson does make a nice menacing voice as Doom.

Tom Kane's Doom even had the Eastern European accent, which was a really nice touch.

However, considering Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, plus Tom Kane's contemporary presence as two Marvel villains already (Magneto AND Ultron), I think they'll fly Paul Dobson down to LA.
If it is Tom Kane i prefer he lay off the eastern european accent a bit, in Spider-Man TAS sound too Dracula in my opinion, we just have to wait and see.

They should get whoever voiced Doom in MVC 3.

lol that's why i asked XD

CyclonatorZ

05-06-2011, 05:50 PM

I disagree, i find the design to be quite attractive as it is. i might add that Hulk doesn't exactly have realistic shape either. While realism can make for a good character design, is by no means any kind of limitation. Often great character design is found in pushing beyond the realms of reality and exaggerating. What's often important in animation is not what's realistic but what's believable to the audience. If for instance the women were given proper human shape, many viewers might think the legs look short and unattractive despite the characters being based on real humans. Hell I once read that the character Bayonetta (from the video game of the same name) was based off of super models and yet i could never get over how tiny her head looked.

Marvell is given those proportions not because what normal human shape is like but because it helps exaggerate his muscles. the design is meant to make him feel strong and powerful. For Invisible woman, the focus is shifted to making her more attractive, which in general means exaggerating the legs, hips and bust. Hell in a sense this is often why i hate the appearance of liveaction superheroes. Superman looks great in his comicbook and animated incarnations, but you will have a hard time finding human actor who has the physical appearance that expresses such power... not to mention that while bright and colorful costumes look great in comics and cartoons, they often look horrible in real life

I'm not arguing for realism per-say, but conveying realism. And when it comes to drawing humans, conveying realism involves having balanced designs. Idealy, as with real humans, the legs should be around the same length as the arms, and the torso of a similar length to them both. I don't expect superhero cartoons to have perfect proportions, especially if they're using a stylized art style, but at the same time I don't want them to over-exaggerate to the point that they barely look human. You don't want to draw Batman with giant gorilla arms, for example, because then he'll look like Bat-Ape. But on Hulk, who is a gamma-mutated monster, they look fine, as they convey the theme of him being something other than a pure human.

The problem with the designs of Insivible Girl and Miss Marvel is that their legs are so long that they don't look like they match with their small torsos. They also are far too small compared to their arms, and overall the design just looks quite hideous in a still frame. In contrast, the designs of most of the male superheroes work because they carry the somewhat exaggerated muscles over their entire body. The legs, arms, and torso are all big and beefy, and they work together to convey a unified image of imposing power. That said, there's also quite a bit of variation in size among the designs - Hawkeye and Ant man seem a bit slimmer than Captain America, and Hulk and Thor absolutely dwarf everyone else. Whereas with the designs of Miss Marvel and Invisible girl, they have the exact same unbalanced proportions.

I don't mean to be overly picky about this, but it's just something that really bugged me the second I saw the new designs. Like I said, they could look fine in motion, and I'll probably be far too focused on the dialogue and action to worry about this minor quibble anyway. But is a problem in my mind, and I feel it's a result of the long standing tradition in superhero comic books to saddle their female characters with extremely wonky proportions.

Medinnus

05-06-2011, 08:49 PM

http://www.medinnus.com/working_aemh/images/ultron_inside.png

Da da da DUH
*Intel Commercial Chime*

My favorite Joshua Fine quote:

"I will neither confirm nor deny that the Scarlet Witch and/or her brother Quicksilver will be appearing in Season Two"
Joshua Fine, DVD v.1

Aquaman OS

05-07-2011, 08:39 AM

That probably means yes then.

Dragnatek

05-07-2011, 08:42 AM

We are only a week and one day from new episodes on Disney XD. Sure I already seen all of season one though other means but I still plan on watching these new episodes.

Medinnus

05-07-2011, 10:12 AM

That probably means yes then.

Or that he's been asked that question so many times he doesn't want to say "Yes" and spoil the surprise, or "No" and disappoint people. Either way, answering it is a losing proposition.

RobBie729

05-07-2011, 02:18 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jaqfURiRTRo/TVYhNbywecI/AAAAAAAABS4/fh72gvNcuqw/s1600/AEMH_GiftPoster_Flat.jpg
Come On Really? someone said this was off the dvd set

Mod Note: Image too big, changed to link. Please be more mindful in the future, please. Thanks!

Rud

05-07-2011, 02:38 PM

^^^Well, Wolverine & The X-Men did end on teh worst cliffhanger ever and this is supposed to take place in the same universe (last time i checked). Perhaps they want to finish some unfinished business left over from that show.

Dudley

05-07-2011, 02:38 PM

Come On Really? someone said this was off the dvd set

That looks pretty cool. But what's with the black Giant Man? I guess Hank Pym finally quit.

Capt. Speedbump

05-07-2011, 02:45 PM

Old news:

http://thomasperkins.blogspot.com/2011/02/portfolio-avengers-emh-crew-gift-poster.html

A what-if drawing by series artist Thomas Perkins. Sounds like any relation to Season 2 will be purely coincidental.
See Discussion Part 3, bottom of Page 5.

Awesome drawing, though.

Bat-Fan Beyond

05-07-2011, 03:52 PM

That picture with the Avengers and the X-Men is so great! I love the appearance of Sasquatch and Black Goliath, too. I seen that image posted before, but I still can't get over how good it looks. The character designs are great, and the lighting and shadow effects really makes it stand out.

I really wish for the X-Men's appearance on The Avengers:EMH. Especially if it is in continuity with Wolverine and The X-Men, even though that series is no more. I like both shows, but I'll admit I'm not the biggest fan of either one, but having the two teams together for an episode or two would be awesome enough to really win me over!

I know this is an Avengers show, but with the appearance of The Fantastic Four and hopefully Spider-Man, X-Men and Dr. Strange, this show could be the lynchpin for the whole Marvel Universe in animated form.

Manhunter

05-07-2011, 09:39 PM

They should get whoever voiced Doom in MVC 3.

If they can get Paul Dobson, sure.

I also heard they might get Troy Baker who's voiced a number of characters in A:EMH already and has practice playing a Doom-type with Van Kleiss in Generator Rex.

The Octopus

05-07-2011, 11:33 PM

Personally, I'd like to see them get Jason Isaacs for Doom. I mean he did Zhao in Avatar: The Last Airbender for an entire season. However, it'd be a little unlikely as Doom's role on the show, seems to be for a few episodes.

As for Paul Dobson, didn't people hate his Doom, cause he was very over the top and overt? (I never watched the show enough to know for sure)

And I've heard those rumors of Troy Baker, being Doom's voice too. He'd work, although he wouldn"t be my first choice.

Also, who do y'all think they will get for Human Torch and Mr Fantastic. I'm hoping its Michael Rosenbaum and John C McGinley
respectively.
*fingers crossed*

Dexters Lab

05-07-2011, 11:49 PM

Avengers is in continuity with Wolverine and the X-Men? what connections are there?

Monte

05-08-2011, 12:04 AM

Avengers is in continuity with Wolverine and the X-Men? what connections are there?

So far, none really...
If i recall, the writers have said that while working on avengers EMH they intended for the series to be part of the same continuity as Wolverine and the X-men, however they kept them independent enough so that there isn't really too much in there that says for sure whether or not they are part of the same continuity. One of the few things they did have in common so far was the MRD which was mentioned in the micro episodes of EMH...
However, Something i also recall the writers saying is that since Wolverine the the X-men failed to continue, plans to keep them in the same continuity are kind of up in the air; there don't sound entirely sure... I would imagine that, despite their original intentions, they may not want to keep themselves tied down to a series that has no future. I think recall hearing that they had the first 2 seasons of emh mostly planned out before they found out the WatXM was denied a second season, so it may not be until season 3 that we see them either stick to WatXM or deviate from it

though i forget where the links to sources are since they are deep in the old threads... so just going by my poor memory =p

Medinnus

05-08-2011, 12:19 AM

though i forget where the links to sources are since they are deep in the old threads... so just going by my poor memory =p

Most of the factors are mentioned on my AEMH editorial feature:

http://assembledrantings.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.html

Aaron

05-08-2011, 12:57 AM

We just have to wait :).

Doom looks awesome, does anyone know if Paul Dobson will reprise the role of Doom?

I hope get Tom Kane to voice Doom in the Avengers:EMH like he did in Spider-Man TAS.

Haven't heard his Doom, but I he'd be awesome.

The best/greatest voice for Dr. Doom will always be Simon "The Legacy of Kain" Templeman.
Greatest adapted voice for Dr. Doom in any incarnation.

Considering Dobson is the voice used in MVC, I doubt they'll consider Templeman. Which just makes me sad as can be.

W.C.Reaf

05-08-2011, 06:36 AM

The best/greatest voice for Dr. Doom will always be Simon "The Legacy of Kain" Templeman.
Greatest adapted voice for Dr. Doom in any incarnation.

Considering Dobson is the voice used in MVC, I doubt they'll consider Templeman. Which just makes me sad as can be.

I was just about to complain that no one was mentioning the greatest Doom VA but there it is.

Even though Templeman only did Doom for the 90s Incredible Hulk and season 2 of Fantastic Four he was the best.

Captain Travis

05-08-2011, 09:49 AM

Ehhh templeman's ok kinda of cheesy sometimes but that may have just been the show. But i don't think we have found a definitive doom voice yet i kind of would like someone new to take a crack at him

you can hear everyone who has voiced him here
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Fantastic-Four/Doctor-Doom/

AlgeaX

05-08-2011, 10:04 AM

The best/greatest voice for Dr. Doom will always be Simon "The Legacy of Kain" Templeman.
Greatest adapted voice for Dr. Doom in any incarnation.

Amen brother, amen. Simon Templeman will always be the voice of Doom as far as I'm concerned.

RoryWilliams

05-08-2011, 10:43 AM

That looks pretty cool. But what's with the black Giant Man? I guess Hank Pym finally quit.
That's Goliath. He was one of Pym's lab assistants who used Pym Particles to become a size-changing hero like Hank.

Avengers

05-08-2011, 11:56 AM

King_of_doom

05-08-2011, 12:40 PM

Amen brother, amen. Simon Templeman will always be the voice of Doom as far as I'm concerned.

Wow, just by hearing him he does a more sinister voice for Doom that fits him perfectly, even the laugh scared me......now i wish Simon Templeman does the voice.

Wonderwall

05-08-2011, 01:29 PM

Cool to see I'm not the only fan of Simon on these boards:p. Guy really should be in more stuff.

Rick Jones

05-08-2011, 03:22 PM

Templeman was my Doom as well. I'm a Tom Kane fan but I never really thought too much about his Doom rendition. It was good but it just didn't have the same impact on me as his Magneto and Ultron voices did. I was always a guy that was kind of bugged by the recasting of the FF characters for Secret Wars, so I'm not sure if that also influenced my opinion or anything.

I hope that AEMH's Doom has the charm that WGH's version lacked.

suss2it

05-08-2011, 06:08 PM

Or that he's been asked that question so many times he doesn't want to say "Yes" and spoil the surprise, or "No" and disappoint people. Either way, answering it is a losing proposition.I remember during the Fan Expo here in Toronto when they showed the both parts of "Breakout" there was a question of which characters will appear throughout the show, and Josh Fine basically said "everyone you expect to see is gonna show up". So with that in mind and him bringing up Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver, plus the way he laughs, leads me to believe that they'll eventually be showing up.

Ehhh templeman's ok kinda of cheesy sometimes but that may have just been the show. But i don't think we have found a definitive doom voice yet i kind of would like someone new to take a crack at him

you can hear everyone who has voiced him here
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Fantastic-Four/Doctor-Doom/Wow, Templeman's Doom was great. I think his Doom is the best one so far. And you can't blame the cheesy lines on him, that falls on the writers.

King_of_doom

05-08-2011, 06:12 PM

Wow, Templeman's Doom was great. I think his Doom is the best one so far. And you can't blame the cheesy lines on him, that falls on the writers.

Even if the lines where cheesy Templeman still made it work as a menacing voice, his voice just fits perfectly for Doom.

Captain Travis

05-08-2011, 07:20 PM

I hope that AEMH's Doom has the charm that WGH's version lacked.

I agree, and yeah i dont blame templeman for the cheesiness and after listning again i do have to admit he's better than tom kane's version but i still dont like dobson's doom

Manhunter

05-08-2011, 09:34 PM

The best/greatest voice for Dr. Doom will always be Simon "The Legacy of Kain" Templeman.
Greatest adapted voice for Dr. Doom in any incarnation.

Templeman gets my vote because of this line alone:

Yes, I'm so sorry to involve you in the timeworn damsel-in-distress cliché, Mrs. Richards. I fear the only thing missing is the onrushing train! However, sometimes expediency outweighs originality. Now, with your permission...

macattack

05-08-2011, 11:20 PM

Oh yeah Templeman was amazing. He had some really bad lines at times but he made a really amazing Doom. Especially when Doom needed to be menacing.

However I don't think Marvel will go after him and instead bring Dobson in to not only voice Doom but the Thing as well (yeah Dobson voiced both in WGH). Dobson is a pretty good fit for The Thing, slightly less so for Doom but he's not really a bad cast in that role either.

Manhunter

05-08-2011, 11:31 PM

However I don't think Marvel will go after him and instead bring Dobson in to not only voice Doom but the Thing as well (yeah Dobson voiced both in WGH).

Actually, it was his brother Brian who voiced the Thing.

macattack

05-08-2011, 11:42 PM

Actually, it was his brother Brian who voiced the Thing.

Oh. Oops.

Never paid too much to the credits in that one.

Might as well fly both Dobson brothers down then.

Aaron

05-09-2011, 12:22 AM

I was just about to complain that no one was mentioning the greatest Doom VA but there it is.

Even though Templeman only did Doom for the 90s Incredible Hulk and season 2 of Fantastic Four he was the best.

This is very very VERY true. Glad you didn't have to complain. hehe.

Amen brother, amen. Simon Templeman will always be the voice of Doom as far as I'm concerned.

Truer words were never spoken.

Wow, just by hearing him he does a more sinister voice for Doom that fits him perfectly, even the laugh scared me......now i wish Simon Templeman does the voice.

I'm glad you think so. I really wish they'd cast him as Doom in A:EMH as well.

Cool to see I'm not the only fan of Simon on these boards:p. Guy really should be in more stuff.

We are not alone.
In fact, I'd like to know just how many of us are there.
I might start a poll.

Templeman gets my vote because of this line alone:

Yes, I'm so sorry to involve you in the timeworn damsel-in-distress cliché, Mrs. Richards. I fear the only thing missing is the onrushing train! However, sometimes expediency outweighs originality. Now, with your permission...

DUDE!!!
That's like my all-time favorite Doom quote. It's so friggin' perfect!
I was actually going to list this as one of my many reasons for loving his delivery/portrayal of Doom.
But you beat me to it.
You rock!

Rick Jones

05-09-2011, 12:26 AM

Oh. Oops.

Never paid too much to the credits in that one.

Might as well fly both Dobson brothers down then.Add Ronan to the mix and fly all three brothers down.

The Octopus

05-09-2011, 01:02 AM

However...Fred Tactasciore is already confirmed to be the voice of Thing on the show, so no Brian Dobson as Thing.

RONDC20

05-09-2011, 02:24 AM

*jumps up and down, waving arms*

I am! I am! :)

Ok cool I'll post it when I finish it as I have begun to work on it again.

macattack

05-09-2011, 11:52 AM

However...Fred Tactasciore is already confirmed to be the voice of Thing on the show, so no Brian Dobson as Thing.

Tatasciore performed as The Thing for exactly one line and it was basically an imitation of Brian Dobson. Sounds like Marvel's at least interested in bringing the Dobson brothers to LA to record.

One thing the reviews of the new micro-site that I think is a good point is how the side characters of the Avengers have vanished since the team's formation. People like Pepper Potts, General Ross, Sif, and even Bruce Banner himself. They're just gone. And I find that a disservice to all of the characters in the show. Even Justice League made an attempt to include side characters when possible.

I'm particularly disappointed that we have not had a Hulkbuster/Avengers confrontation yet. You would think we'd have had one by now. At this point I doubt we'll ever have one.

M.O.D.O.K.

05-09-2011, 05:44 PM

One thing the reviews of the new micro-site that I think is a good point is how the side characters of the Avengers have vanished since the team's formation. People like Pepper Potts, General Ross, Sif, and even Bruce Banner himself. They're just gone. And I find that a disservice to all of the characters in the show. Even Justice League made an attempt to include side characters when possible.

At least two of those mentioned show up again in the show since the team's formation. And I wouldn't worry about it, since we still have another 26 episodes that were produced alongside the first season, so they must have known they would use them later again.

As for Doom's voice, Templeman is a good one. I also would like Clive Revill from the Marvel: Ultimate Alliance games to voice Doom as well.

Avengers

05-09-2011, 11:06 PM

dmxx116

05-10-2011, 06:55 AM

You can create your comic of the Avengers:EMH at Disney.com with their photo mashup. Check it out:

http://disney.go.com/create/apps/photomashup/avengers/?cmp=marv_DOL_dcom_EMC_Insider_110503_72x60_PhoMash_Extl#/create/apps/photomashup/avengers/

http://disney.go.com/create/apps/photomashup/avengers/#/create/apps/comiccreator/avengers/

Here some of the designs I saves.

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=285&pictureid=2115

Medinnus

05-10-2011, 07:52 AM

Oh, very fun. Of course, I amuse easily... )

At least two of those mentioned show up again in the show since the team's formation. And I wouldn't worry about it, since we still have another 26 episodes that were produced alongside the first season, so they must have known they would use them later again.

If they spent time with the minor characters, we'd be complaining how, with such a big cast, that they'd spent time on the minor characters and not *Insert Avenger here*.

We're fans. We kvetch, we backseat write, direct, and cast. Its part of being a fan. :D

Capt. Speedbump

05-10-2011, 08:12 AM

Oh, very fun. Of course, I amuse easily... )

If they spent time with the minor characters, we'd be complaining how, with such a big cast, that they'd spent time on the minor characters and not *Insert Avenger here*.

We're fans. We kvetch, we backseat write, direct, and cast. Its part of being a fan. :D

Too true. But I also think those scenes with those characters were primarily to serve as introductions to the Avengers before the teams' formation. Those characters work with the Avengers as individuals; it would be very hard to find a place to squeeze them in as the team is formed and doing its thing. During Hawkeye and Mockingbird's attack on Hydra island, I wasn't asking "Where's Jane Foster?" When the Avengers were fighting Kang, I didn't say "You know what's missing? Pepper Potts."

This is not to say I hope those and other supporting characters don't get more screentime; it just has to be natural and make sense within the context of the stories.

Medinnus

05-10-2011, 01:54 PM

Almost in time for the Thor film, and perfect for the upcoming AEMH episodes!

The Warriors Three!

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/warriors_three_aemh.png
(Volstagg by the unrivaled Robert Bradley!)

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/hogun_AEMH_01.png

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/fandral_AEMH_01.png

And speaking of the next episode:

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/wasp_bikini_AEMH_01.png

dmxx116

05-10-2011, 04:27 PM

Six new screenshots from this Sunday's all-new episode of "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes!:

http://marvel.com/news/story/15857/6_new_avengers_earths_mightiest_heroes_screenshots

ktk

05-10-2011, 04:50 PM

I'm glad we're finally getting new episodes this weeked! It seems like its been a while.

Medinnus

05-10-2011, 05:01 PM

I'm glad we're finally getting new episodes this weeked! It seems like its been a while.

Bloody forever!

Wonderwall

05-10-2011, 05:04 PM

And speaking of the next episode:

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/wasp_bikini_AEMH_01.png

Schwing. I think that's best one you've done good sir, certainly a highlight of that episode;)

Medinnus

05-10-2011, 05:36 PM

Ironically, it probably also took the least amount of time... :D

James Harvey

05-10-2011, 06:45 PM

Marvel Animation Age (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=653) has the official logline and nearly thirty images from the next all-new episode of The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, "The Casket of Ancient Winters," debuting May 15th, 2011 at 10:00am (ET) on Disney XD. Click the image below for more.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/avengersemh/reviews/20casketwinters/t-07.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=653)

Aaron

05-10-2011, 08:43 PM

So i just got back from Thor and I have to say they missed a great advertising chance, if they had only put in a trailer for the show the veiwership would have definatly increased, I did get their a little late but I am pretty sure they did not have one

If they did I am sorry, if not that was a missed opportunity

I don't think they play trailers for shows during the trailers before a movie.
And while yeah it would have been great marketing, I'd be ticked off. They play enough commercials before movies nowadays. I don't want any more.

So, to sum up.
Yeah, great marketing opportunity.
Would have annoyed the heck out of me.

Captain Travis

05-10-2011, 08:58 PM

They do in fact advertise for tv show from time to time in theaters though they arent connected to the movie they usually put them with the turn off cellphone/ no smoking stuff

Aaron

05-10-2011, 09:07 PM

They do in fact advertise for tv show from time to time in theaters though they arent connected to the movie they usually put them with the turn off cellphone/ no smoking stuff

1) I'm glad I've forgotten about those. I'd be furious. I think it's atrocious that not only have Theater prices skyrocketed, but now we're forced to sit through commercials for soda, TV shows, and cars. That sort of stuff should be at home. That's one of the things that made theater better than TV.

2) Have they ever advertised animated TV shows? Or just live-action?

Captain Travis

05-10-2011, 09:18 PM

1) I'm glad I've forgotten about those. I'd be furious. I think it's atrocious that not only have Theater prices skyrocketed, but now we're forced to sit through commercials for soda, TV shows, and cars. That sort of stuff should be at home. That's one of the things that made theater better than TV.

2) Have they ever advertised animated TV shows? Or just live-action?
Now that u mention it pretty sure they were all live action

Chaos Yoshi Mage

05-11-2011, 12:01 AM

1) I'm glad I've forgotten about those. I'd be furious. I think it's atrocious that not only have Theater prices skyrocketed, but now we're forced to sit through commercials for soda, TV shows, and cars. That sort of stuff should be at home. That's one of the things that made theater better than TV.

2) Have they ever advertised animated TV shows? Or just live-action?

I think I saw a cartoon ad before a PG rated film before. Either Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince or Toy Story 3 (Only PG movies I've seen in theaters in the last two years). I recall one for Adventure Time...

RoryWilliams

05-11-2011, 08:47 AM

I've never witnessed one on film, just on the DVDs.
I guess there's the lingering threat of losing your "cool cred" in a sense by slapping a kids's cartoon ad onto your film.

Rick Jones

05-12-2011, 12:09 AM

Medinnus

05-12-2011, 12:25 AM

Marvel (http://marvel.com/news/story/15866/download_the_avengers_earths_mightiest_heroes_podcast) has uploaded an episode of their podcast with Josh Fine and Chris Yost, talking about the show, if anyone's interested.

I loved that interview - it was really cool. Now I have to find the scenes with the Lion-God...

suss2it

05-12-2011, 01:34 AM

Marvel (http://marvel.com/news/story/15866/download_the_avengers_earths_mightiest_heroes_podcast) has uploaded an episode of their podcast with Josh Fine and Chris Yost, talking about the show, if anyone's interested. (Possible spoilers)

Weird that Josh Fine is still promoting the show. I thought his position of supervising producer was past onto someone else.

Medinnus

05-12-2011, 08:22 AM

Weird that Josh Fine is still promoting the show. I thought his position of supervising producer was past onto someone else.

Well, we don't know that this wasn't prepped back when he was still under contract. Its also good practice in any industry to leave on good terms and not burn one's bridges.

I know there is a new creative director in general, but they'd have to authorize Season Three before replacing him; until then, there is no work to do, as Mr. Fine finished Season Two before leaving, for the most part.

Also, Mr. Fine is quite generous with his time, and gracious. I have no doubt he wishes them continued success - heck, he and I are in the middle of a post-Marvel interview for my site even as we speak here. :D

EDIT - MUCH later...

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/captain_america_AEMH_01.png
Captain America

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/captain_america_AEMH_02.png
Without the Shield!

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/steve_rogers_AEMH_01.png

Steve Rogers Head!

When Skrulls Attack!

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/skrull_captain_america_AEMH.png

http://www.medinnus.com/AEMH/images/microheroes/skrull_viper_AEMH.png