Most obscure references in DC cartoons.

[Antiyonder]

Sometimes in the DCAU, certain plots points would resurface later given the significance to the characters (like Legacy be referenced several times in JL/JLU and Batman Beyond "The Call"), and then there are smaller details that could be ignored, but are kept consistent for either:

A. Credibility.
B. Unconsciously reoccuring.

That said, what are some of the most minor details you've noticed in the DCAU that have been brought up several times?

One particular one I noticed is John Stewart's interest in the movie Old Yeller:

1. Hearts & Mind- Flash and Kilowog look around in GL's apartment for the Power Battery, with Flash discovering that John has Old Yeller.

2. Wake The Dead- When describing what to do to the revived Solomon Grundy, Shayera likens the situation to Old Yeller, which she acknowledges as John's favorite movie.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Sometimes in the DCAU, certain plots points would resurface later given the significance to the characters (like Legacy be referenced several times in JL/JLU and Batman Beyond "The Call"), and then there are smaller details that could be ignored, but are kept consistent for either:

A. Credibility.
B. Unconsciously reoccuring.

That said, what are some of the most minor details you've noticed in the DCAU that have been brought up several times?

One particular one I noticed is John Stewart's interest in the movie Old Yeller:

1. Hearts & Mind- Flash and Kilowog look around in GL's apartment for the Power Battery, with Flash discovering that John has Old Yeller.

2. Wake The Dead- When describing what to do to the revived Solomon Grundy, Shayera likens the situation to Old Yeller, which she acknowledges as John's favorite movie.

I think there's also a recurring reference to a Chinese restaurant in John Stewart's neighborhood that he likes to frequent.

[Toddman]

One particular one I noticed is John Stewart's interest in the movie Old Yeller:

1. Hearts & Mind- Flash and Kilowog look around in GL's apartment for the Power Battery, with Flash discovering that John has Old Yeller.

2. Wake The Dead- When describing what to do to the revived Solomon Grundy, Shayera likens the situation to Old Yeller, which she acknowledges as John's favorite movie.

Old Yeller is brought up again by Vixen in "Hunter's Moon."

Funny how GL has such a sentimental "weakness" for "Yeller"....


Toddman

[90'sCartoonMan]

Batman's dislike of Boom Tubes was brought up in "The Call", and then again...er...originally, in "Twilight".

[ryandcow]

This isn't super onscure I suppose but Lois Lane refrences when superman was brainwashed by Darksied to attack metropolis in STAS.

[Silverstar]

This isn't super obscure I suppose but Lois Lane refrences when superman was brainwashed by Darksied to attack metropolis in STAS.

The events of "Legacy" are also referenced by Batman in "Twilight", Question in "Fearfully Symmetry" and by Prof. Hamilton in "Question Authority".

[ABrown]

The Laughing Fish episode of Batman:TAS was brought up at least a couple of times later in the DCAU.

[Alph]

S.T.A.R. labs is first shown to exist in the DCAU in an episode of BTAS, when it appears on a computer screen listing of several research facilities. This is long before STAS came out.


Kaznia is first introduced as a story element in STAS's pilot episodes, but is an important element of BB's pilot episodes, several JL/JLU stories, and the MotB DTV.

[the greenman]

I never understood the whole levels of intellect that was brought up in several episodes of JLU. Lex Luthor had a Level 12 intellect, and I believe Brianiac 5 had a higher or the same level of intellect in "Far From Home".

[klammed]

I never understood the whole levels of intellect that was brought up in several episodes of JLU. Lex Luthor had a Level 12 intellect, and I believe Brianiac 5 had a higher or the same level of intellect in "Far From Home".

It's a Colu thing - where the Braniacs are from, but I suppose that doesn't quite explain it in the DCAU as Braniac's a machine from Krypton and that's about it. I assume Luthor counts as a 12th level due to his time with Braniac in his system.

Or hm. Maybe not. Might just be a DC intelligence thing : http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/12th_Level_Intellect

[Livy1213]

There's also the use of the Grey Ghost costume in BB's Inque. Hell, Bruce's entire collection in the Batcave could be traced the individual BTAS episodes where the props made earlier appearances.

[klammed]

There's also the use of the Grey Ghost costume in BB's Inque. Hell, Bruce's entire collection in the Batcave could be traced the individual BTAS episodes where the props made earlier appearances.

The Grey Ghost was also the movie that an eight year old Terry and his parents watched when Andrea was sent to kill them in JLU's Epilogue.

Speaking of, I think the Near Apocalypse of 2009 has been mentioned in both BB's Out of the Past and Epilogue.

[Silverstar]

I never understood the whole levels of intellect that was brought up in several episodes of JLU. Lex Luthor had a Level 12 intellect, and I believe Brianiac 5 had a higher or the same level of intellect in "Far From Home".

Brainiac 5 has the 12th-level intellect. Lex's actual IQ was never officially stated, but when Metron warns him that only a 12th level intellect can go inside where they traveled to and survive, Luthor boasts that he's over-qualified. Batman also mentions that Lex has a photographic memory.

As for the intelligence levels, Wiki explains it thusly:


Brainiac 5 possesses a "Twelfth level Intellect," which grants him superhuman calculation skills, amazing memory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory) and exceptional technical know-how. By comparison, 20th century Earth as a whole constitutes a "Sixth level" intelligence, and most of his fellow Coluans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colu) have an "Eighth level" intelligence. 31st century Earth as a whole is a "Ninth level" intelligence. His memory allows him to retain knowledge of events that all other characters forget such as the first meeting of the three different Legions.

The Reboot version of Brainiac 5 was shown in several issues to be able to ponder twelve lines of thought simultaneously. When a renegade Titanian read his mind, she discovered that his subconscious - usually the more active and chaotic part of the mind - was less active than his twelve simultaneous conscious thoughts. Whether any other version of Brainy also exhibits this trait remains to be seen.

[Zakor1138]

Hi, I'm new to these forums. Now that that's out of the way...

I just wanted to know, what are the most obscure characters or references you have known?

In Kamandi #7, Kamandi is captured by gorillas who seek to regain their "fetish", a giant talking ape named Tiny, from the Lion Men. Yup, Tiny from Batman: BATB is based on this guy.

How about Rohtul? In World's Finest Comics #91, Rohtul is the decendent of Lex Luthor, while the show's version is an "alien" version. BTW, they have the exact same costume!

So, anyone else have some?

[RoryWilliams]

Miss Martian's starfighter seems like a callback to a shortlived Martian spaceship that Martian Manhunter had in the 90's. I don't think it's appeared in years.

[Mad Hatter]

There are tons, but I'd have to search through every episode of every DC animated show since 1992 to find them all.

...Challenge accepted.

But off the top of my head, Sugar and Spice from early DC comics appear in B:TBATB's "The Siege of Starro: Part I," and in part 2, we see a Paradaemon, old-school Brainiac, a Mother Box, a Thanagarian, and Gleek from Superfriends in Faceless Hunter's trophy room.

[the greenman]

There has got to be a thread on this already, cause I think I posted in it.

One I remember is in JLU "Far From Home", GL holds Supergirl like the cover of an issue of Crisis: On Infinite Earths.

[Yojimbo]

Mod Note: Thread merged with an earlier thread from last year.

I think most of the characters and objects that appeared on "The Last Patrol!" of Batman: The Brave and The Bold were pretty obscure; Mutant Master, The Arsenal, The Baron, Bug Man, Dr. Tyme, Mind Stealer, Mr. 103, Kranus, Jukebox of Doom, Thermal Device, and Osmun.

And welcome to the forums, Zakor1138. Your screenname sounds familiar for some reason...

[RoryWilliams]

The Brave and the Bold episode, "Knights of Tomrrow" is chock full of them.

- Batman and Robin are shown beating up the members of the Club of Villains as well as Professor Pyg and the Flamingo. Each of those villains were created by Grant Morrison in either his Batman run, or his run on Batman & Robin.

- During the big final fight between Robin and the Joker, music very similar to the guitar fight riffs from Batman Beyond is played.

In "the Last Patrol", Flex Mentallo, Dorothy Spinner and Beast Boy are shown on posters. Flex and Dorothy are characters from Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol run, and Beast Boy was a member of the team before gaining stardom as a member of the Teen Titans.

[SSJBatman]

Professor Pyg and Flamingo aren't that obscure...they've gotten more comic time then most of the other ones here :P

But I do doubt most people who haven't kept up with B&R would know anyway.

@Yojimbo

I've never heard of any of those in my life

Darn obscure D:

[Zakor1138]

"The Knights of Tomorrow" is based on the old "Imaginary Stories" during the Silver Ages of comics.

Seen here is Dick Grayson as Batman II....
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081128164026/marvel_dc/images/e/e1/Batman_131.jpg

...and here's the Son of the Joker!
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081128165230/marvel_dc/images/0/09/Batman_145.jpg

[Yojimbo]

Professor Pyg and Flamingo aren't that obscure...they've gotten more comic time then most of the other ones here :P

But I do doubt most people who haven't kept up with B&R would know anyway.

@Yojimbo

I've never heard of any of those in my life

Darn obscure D:Yeah, they used a lot of one-hit wonders in that episode but still those were great stories they were picked from in the comics. I imagine it's going to get even more obscure in season 3. So one in particular we know of The Weeper

[Spike Spiegel]

I think Dr. Milo and Kirk Langstrom were mentioned in JLU.

Also, I've noticed that the medic who attends to Bruce's flesh wound in the flashback scene from "Epilogue" seems to be the same one who almost unmasked him in "Secret Origins."

[RoryWilliams]

There was a scene in JLU where Huntress has Jimmy taped up and gagged, and he screams at Superman to help him, only to get a "Jimmy, I'll get to you in a second!" brushoff. I'm pretty sure that was a callback to the good ole' Superdickery.com days when Supes would treat poor Jimmy like [REMOVED].

MOD NOTE: Please Watch the Language

[the greenman]

There was a scene in JLU where Huntress has Jimmy taped up and gagged, and he screams at Superman to help him, only to get a "Jimmy, I'll get to you in a second!" brushoff. I'm pretty sure that was a callback to the good ole' Superdickery.com days when Supes would treat poor Jimmy like [REMOVED].

MOD NOTE: Please Watch the Language

If you're referring to the Superdickery.com yeah, I noticed that too not too long ago. I actually had no idea what that was till Yojimbo posted a link in reference to an upcoming TBATB teamup ep.

While its on my mind. Does anyone remember a scene in JLU "Dark Heart" where Batman is falling and he calmly/sarcastically says something like "Need some help. Yeah, right about now will do." Is this a reference to anything? It was such a funny moment like the aforementioned scene, but didn't get played like that.

[Toddman]

I think Dr. Milo and Kirk Langstrom were mentioned in JLU.

Also, I've noticed that the medic who attends to Bruce's flesh wound in the flashback scene from "Epilogue" seems to be the same one who almost unmasked him in "Secret Origins."

Milo is actually the character that mentions Langstrom (in the episode "Doomsday Sanction"). Milo himself then frees Doomsday only to be killed by him.

And I believe the medic in "Epilogue" wore a hat while the one in "Secret Origins" didn't.




While its on my mind. Does anyone remember a scene in JLU "Dark Heart" where Batman is falling and he calmly/sarcastically says something like "Need some help. Yeah, right about now will do." Is this a reference to anything? It was such a funny moment like the aforementioned scene, but didn't get played like that.

I don't think that's a particular reference to anything. It's just Batman bein' funny.

Toddman