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chdr
11-29-2010, 06:18 PM
Guess what Adult Swim is doing with 9pm? (http://www.adultswim.com/schedule/onair.html)

King of the Hill. Yep, that's it. The only other major change to weekdays is an hour of American Dad at 10pm.

In another baffling pickup decision by AS, the old canceled NBC series "God, the Devil, and Bob" will be airing on Saturdays, along with an episode of Family Guy and an hour of Boondocks.

A season 5 episode of Robot Chicken and the hour-long third Star Wars special premieres in December. And that's it.

What a waste.

Rho
11-29-2010, 06:46 PM
Still no FMA:B premieres? What are they waiting for?

cuzin34
11-29-2010, 06:47 PM
All night Christmas marathons on 12/12 and 12/20
Robot Chicken Star Wars III premieres 12/19

Sundays - starting 1/2/11

9:00 Venture Bros X 2
10:00 Squidbillies X 2
10:30 Family Guy X 2
11:30 Children's Hospital
11:45 Robot Chicken
12:00 Moral Orel
12:15 Superjail
12:30 KOTH X 2
1:00 [repeat of 10 - 12:30]
5:00 Venture Bros X 2


Saturdays - starting 1/1/11

9:00 KOTH X 2
10:00 NEW SHOW! God, the Devil and Bob (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God,_the_Devil_and_Bob)
10:30 Family Guy
11:00 Boondocks X 2
12:00 NEW Bleach X 2
1:00 FMA Brotherhood X 2
2:00 Cowboy Bebop X 2
3:00 GITS X 2
4:00 Bleach [11pm encore]
4:30 Kekkaishi
5:00 InuYasha / KOTH X 2 ?


Weeknights - starting 12/27/10


9:00 KOTH X 2
10:00 American Dad X 2
11:00 Family Guy X 2
12:00 Robot Chicken X 2
1:00 Aqua Teen X 2
1:30 Metal X 2
----REPEAT BLOCK---
1:30 American Dad X 2
2:30 Family Guy X 2
3:30 Robot Chicken X 2
4:00 DVR Theater
4:30 Metal X 2
5:00 KOTH X 2


they could of aleast push Bleach to an earlier time like 11pm. KOTH at 9pm is a waste.

[as] will never make schedule like this one again

11:00PM Inuyasha
11:30PM Wolf's Rain
12:00AM Witch Hunter Robin
12:30AM Big O
1:00AM Cowboy Bebop
1:30AM Trigun
2:00AM Inuyasha
2:30AM Wolf's Rain
3:00AM Witch Hunter Robin
3:30AM Big O
4:00AM Cowboy Bebop
4:30AM Trigun

macattack
11-29-2010, 07:05 PM
What. A. Waste. With ratings already proving that current AS tactics are running long in the tooth, this further aggravates the problem.

And before you bring up football, let me remind you that football has never caused so much damage before on Sundays. There is a real decline going on.

And yes, what are they waiting for with Brotherhood? Either cancel and pull it or start it up again! The DVD release is imminent, which means FUNi didn't expect AS to stop it at all. The break's already been longer than the break that happened midway through the first series' premiere run.

BTW, chdr, Kekkaishi isn't being yanked. Bleach is still one episode a week.

Space Cadet
11-29-2010, 07:12 PM
[as] will never make schedule like this one again

They sure won't. After years of instability, AS finally got Saturdays under control and they won't be changing much to it in the future.

I'm not surprised by the schedule. They mentioned that they wanted the 9 pm hour to be tame and King of the Hill is the only show they have that fits the bill. I know Tobias wanted American Dad stripped on weekdays, so he'll be happy.

Should be interesting to see how AS will do in primetime now.

God, Devil and Bob huh? Well, I'm not expecting much from it and I'm sure AS isn't either. Family Guy on Saturdays will be interesting to see whether or not it does better than American Dad on the same day.

Andrew T. Hingson
11-29-2010, 08:09 PM
First of all, not the best idea moving AD off of Saturday when it's winning the night in both slots every single week but I suppose Boondocks and Family Guy will be winning now. They're probably planning on running Black Dynamite with Boondocks on Saturday and that should work out well enough.

I'm all for God the Devil and Bob but seems kind of pointless. I only saw a bit though so I'll probably watch it.

Weekdays is exactly what I was expecting. Way too many repeats. At least they finally will stop encoring KotH in the middle of the block and leave that PG material for 5AM but at the cost of Home Movies. I suppose HM has had that slot plenty long enough but it's probably never going to get it back now.

Boo to Squids over Birdman on Sunday. Venture hour is fine but double Squids before the rest of Sunday is a big boo from me.

Overall, uninspired as expected.

Daikun
11-29-2010, 08:43 PM
Wow. God, the Devil & Bob? That came out of left field. I'd never actually seen the show when it aired on NBC, and I only vaguely remember promos for it. Does anyone know if it was any good?

Also, what is Christmas in December II? It's just some random special squeezed in there on December 5 at 1AM, and I don't remember a Christmas in December I.

Yep. Just as I predicted early this year when it was first announced, the 9PM expansion is entirely pointless. They seriously need to stop expanding the block. I've been saying for a looooong time that they need to decrease their hours, and this cements my statements. This has gotten past the point of ridiculous; they're not even trying anymore.

Space Cadet
11-29-2010, 08:50 PM
First of all, not the best idea moving AD off of Saturday when it's winning the night in both slots every single week but I suppose Boondocks and Family Guy will be winning now. They're probably planning on running Black Dynamite with Boondocks on Saturday and that should work out well enough.



Eh, I don't mind The Boondocks mainly because the reruns did very well before American Dad took over Saturday. When The Cleveland Show comes in 2013, I could see The Boondocks and The Cleveland Show being paired up.

Beat
11-29-2010, 08:52 PM
God, the Devil, and Bob? That show had 13 episodes tops. Probably less since I remember it being canceled fairly quickly in the face of the Millionaire juggernaut. What is it doing here? The show was mediocre at best and is years old. It's not like new episodes are going to be made, and it's not like it has the name of a cult film to mooch off of either.

At least Saturday finally brings Family Guy, which should keep ratings high.

9:00pm going to waste is sad, but kinda expected. I guess Conan isn't feasible at the moment.

chdr
11-29-2010, 09:40 PM
Also, what is Christmas in December II? It's just some random special squeezed in there on December 5 at 1AM, and I don't remember a Christmas in December I."Christmas in December" is just a set of infomercials for the Adult Swim Store. This year, they're condensing it into one slot instead of spreading them throughout the night.

Nexonius
11-29-2010, 11:07 PM
Honestly, I can't really say that I'm surprised about the poor scheduling by Adult Swim. From the month when it was announced that Adult Swim was going to take over the 9PM slot, I imagined King of The Hill taking over the slot and the overall schedule filled with reruns, not one interesting thing could have happened with classic shows). At all (okay, I imagined a little of what could've happen). And now here's the schedule, and I was unfortunately right. That alone shows how lame Adult Swim has gotten.

Guys let's face it, Adult Swim is a shell of its former self. What was unique about Adult Swim back in 2001 is clearly dead when they wanted to become a second Nick @ Nite with more than 90% of straight reruns. They could've put The Flintstones and The Jetsons in there for variety....could've acquired rights to shows like Duckman, Stressed Eric, or something. But no, it's more of the same ol' same ol' crap as usual.

And to think, some of these people were there at Cartoon Network at the beginning.....

Zyzzybalubah
11-30-2010, 04:38 AM
LOL, of course Adult Swim does the one thing I think they shouldn't have done with the 9PM slot.... move King of the Hill to that time. Seriously? Was Cartoon Network doing that poorly in the 9PM hour to drop it for King of the Hill? KotH has proven that it's definitely no Family Guy/American Dad/Futurama in terms of ratings, I'm sorry to say that as there are many KotH fans, but let's be honest, it seldom makes the Top 3 on either night. Sunday night with double Venture Bros. airings makes sense as I can't see Adult Swim wanting to attempt to compete with Family Guy/American Dad premieres. I'm not saying not to play King of the Hill as they probably spent a great deal of money to get the rights, but continuing with a full-hour after proven failures? My suggestion for prime-time is maybe one episode of King of the Hill followed by a wild card viewers' choice where they can vote for a large assortment of shows in AS's library (I suggest keeping it to cancelled/rarely aired shows, but they can do the whole library if they wished to) and a different show airs each day.

As far as no American Dad listed on Saturdays in the future, I have a feeling that's not going to last long or even make it to that point. It's been helping Adult Swim Saturday so much with ratings that they would be crazy to not have it stay. I would think Family Guy/Boondocks might move to Saturdays but either King of the Hill or even God, The Devil, and Bob might be booted (or moved later) to make room for American Dad. They may be crazy with decisions/acquisitions, but surely not THAT crazy!

In the long run, I hope that there's more to this Prime-Time move. Perhaps King of the Hill is filling the void until they have a better idea with the 9PM hour, I hope so at least. By the way, how long does Adult Swim have King of the Hill for and are they contractually bound to keep the airings an hour long and at the earliest hour of the block?

Andrew T. Hingson
11-30-2010, 11:11 AM
Dunno how much longer they have KotH. They may hold on to it until they get The Cleveland show a few years from now.

The Man in Black
11-30-2010, 12:24 PM
The only "good news" (cigarette juice) that I take from any of this is God, The Devil, and Bob and that's only because 1) I haven't seen it and 2) It's technically "fresh" programming. That being said, why hasn't [as] grabbed Undergrads, Dilbert, The Critic, etc. already? I do likewise think they are being nimrods with the scheduling, however.

Toon Master
11-30-2010, 12:54 PM
Well...what did anyone here expect? Adult Swim has been in a slump like this for years. This only adds another waste of an hour to a block that has become a shell of its former self.

What was the 9:00PM hour needed for in the first place? If all they are going to do is continue to run King Of The Hill to death then is there an actual point? No one can tell me Cartoon Network was doing terrible at 9:00PM. They have had that hour for years.

This has to be one of the stupidest programming decisions they have made. Now let us see how long this lasts (but knowing Adult Swim...probably forever.... and that is the sad part).

Zyzzybalubah
11-30-2010, 01:23 PM
I'm not saying this will happen but I would not at all be surprised if around April the decided to give the 9:00 PM hour back to Cartoon Network. If their only plan to get one extra hour was to play King of the Hill earlier, then they're nuts.

Andrew T. Hingson
11-30-2010, 01:40 PM
I'm really hoping KotH at 9PM flops hard enough that AS gives up the hour by Spring. CN needs that time much more. Especially on Monday and Friday.

But let's not kid ourselves. That weekday line-up with the exception of maybe 9PM KotH is going to do very well. Hour of American Dad, hour of Family Guy, double Robot Chicken, Aqua Teens and Metal and then do it all over again. All their big hits all week long (sans Delocated on Thursday) even Friday. It's going to do well. No doubt about it.

Saturday should keep up fine but 9PM will be the deadest hour that night without a doubt. Sunday though, Sunday is a mess. VB is a sacrificial lamb to Family Guy on FOX and Squidbillies is bound to tank at 10PM. Only Family Guy and Robot Chicken stand a chance of doing decently out of that line-up.

For the most part I can see some method to their madness other than Sunday and being crazy enough to premiere a fresh comedy on Saturday at 10PM but I still feel KotH at 9PM is going to do worse with 18+ than CN's shows do in their demographic at that hour. Here's hoping this expansion is only temporary because honestly if it was that line-up without KotH at 9PM it'd be much better looking and would get a better average for sure.

cuzin34
11-30-2010, 09:01 PM
ain't Venture to violent (TV-MA) to be airing at 9pm?

Andrew T. Hingson
12-01-2010, 01:21 AM
ain't Venture to violent (TV-MA) to be airing at 9pm?

Many episodes are only TV-14 but yeah, even those seem a bit much for 9pm and so does TV-MA Squidbillies at 10pm. They could have dug up some TV-PG to TV-14 comedies for that first hour on Sunday and maybe put God the Devil and Bob at 10PM on Sunday instead of Saturday.

Jacob T. Paschal
12-02-2010, 02:22 AM
Boy, if there was ever a sign that nerds on message boards didn't matter...well, I'd think this to be such a sign.

I don't watch [as] regularly or anything...but boy, this is just repetitive. No risk, no surprises, nothing but safety.

This just reminds me why I gave up being critical of scheduling. It's self-puncturing chaos with no end, not sport.

GWOtaku
12-02-2010, 10:11 AM
Boy, if there was ever a sign that people without a Nielsen box didn't matter...


Adjusted that for you! Whatever data they're looking at though, the extra Adult Swim time definitely does come off as arbitrary. KoTH is a good show, but nothing about the extra time makes AS a better block or Cartoon Network a better channel right now. It's AS except a little longer, the end. Nothing to get excited about.

NightSpirit
12-02-2010, 11:54 AM
I know most people are apathetic about this, but as an American Dad fan I'm at least very happy that they're putting out an hour of it in a pretty good timeslot. While I like Family Guy and KOTH, I'm starting to get tired of seeing an hour of them every night. American Dad isn't on enough as it is in general, so it'll be good to have it there for an hour each night. Also, I'm hoping it'll really help get the show more recognition, and thus help the new episodes do better on Fox, and keep it from getting death-slotted every time a new show like Bob's Burgers comes along.

Jacob T. Paschal
12-02-2010, 12:25 PM
Whatever data they're looking at though, the extra Adult Swim time definitely does come off as arbitrary. KoTH is a good show, but nothing about the extra time makes AS a better block or Cartoon Network a better channel right now. It's AS except a little longer, the end. Nothing to get excited about.

And that's the problem, I suppose you could say. People on message boards were hoping they'd do something unexpected with the extra hour.

Well, now I have to figure out what they plan to do with Star Wars: The Clone Wars if they're taking over Fridays. This really is a bit of a inconvenient headache for me now...

Andrew T. Hingson
12-02-2010, 03:02 PM
And that's the problem, I suppose you could say. People on message boards were hoping they'd do something unexpected with the extra hour.

Well, now I have to figure out what they plan to do with Star Wars: The Clone Wars if they're taking over Fridays. This really is a bit of a inconvenient headache for me now...

Some people were hopeful but they'd have to be delusional to expect Adult Swim to do anything special with their new found prime time hours. This is generally what I always expected hinging on whether or not they were allowed to play double American Dad on weekdays.

I wouldn't worry about Star Wars, it's always doing well. I'm sure it'll be on at 8:30PM on Friday or possibly another night if they shuffle their action line-up in January. No matter what day it ends up on it'll surely be in the 8 hour where CN can get the most out of it.

As a fellow American Dad enthusiast NightSpirit I also look forward to having it daily and even for an hour (2 with encores). It's not nearly as overplayed as KotH and FG have been thus far but of course with that many airings it's going to become just as overplayed in the long run. FOX is giving it the cold shoulder though so it's nice to see AS show it some love.

Mesousa
12-02-2010, 04:47 PM
The only good thing about this are the early start times of American Dad and Venture Brothers.

chdr
12-03-2010, 03:59 PM
Small schedule update:

For the rest of December, Saturdays will now look like this:

10:00 - King of the Hill
10:30 - American Dad
11:00 - Family Guy
11:30 - American Dad

Andrew T. Hingson
12-03-2010, 05:00 PM
Trying out Family Guy on Saturday a month before the big change eh? Should do well, very well infact. Even with the advantage of a midnight slot Bleach will probably lose to the two ADs and FG in December but hopefully also gain some viewers for itself.

GolfDude
12-04-2010, 07:55 AM
as per their updated schedule, itll be KOTH from 9-10, American Dad from 10-11 and FG from 11-12

Ducktales Fan
12-04-2010, 08:12 AM
They need to expand it an hour more in the evening and put The Simpsons on at 8 & 8:30pm. Hopefully, this will be the next step with [adult swim].

zoombie
12-04-2010, 08:15 AM
They need to expand it an hour more in the evening and put The Simpsons on at 8 & 8:30pm. Hopefully, this will be the next step with [adult swim].

No, no, no more please. CN action Friday needs that hour.

Ducktales Fan
12-04-2010, 08:30 AM
No, no, no more please. CN action Friday needs that hour.

They can just push it back to the 7pm hour. "Problem" solved.

DarthGonzo
12-04-2010, 09:14 AM
Cool, sounds good to me. It'll be the most I've watched CN in a long time.

Sgt.Frog
12-04-2010, 09:45 AM
No, just no please, Cartoon Network really needs that hour. American Dad, KOTH, and Family Guy are already spammed throughout the schedule.

zoombie
12-04-2010, 09:54 AM
Well 9: 30 has been redubed to repeat programming. CN is really only losing a half hour of when they currentely premere episodes. They could make Clone Wars a AS show and than really not losing anything.

DarthGonzo
12-04-2010, 09:59 AM
No, just no please, Cartoon Network really needs that hour. American Dad, KOTH, and Family Guy are already spammed throughout the schedule.

Nothing is changing as far as how often FG and KOTH are airing. KOTH is just getting moved forward an hour. As for American Dad, how many times a week does it even air on AS? I don't think that one is being spammed at all.

veemonjosh
12-04-2010, 10:23 AM
They can just push it back to the 7pm hour. "Problem" solved.

The action block already starts at 7pm, what you're suggesting would give them just one hour a day to work with. There's already going to be zero breathing room for premieres with the 9pm expansion, so expanding Adult Swim to 8pm would be the dumbest plan CN will ever come up with.

Besides, at that point you might as well call Cartoon Network "the new Toon Disney". By that I mean that Jetix (Adult Swim) basically conquered Toon Disney (CN), and Toon Disney (CN) was left to die a slow and horrible death until Disney XD came along and put it out of its misery. In essence, an 8pm start time for Adult Swim would absolutely murder Cartoon Network.

We'd sooner see Adult Swim get the 6am hour than the 8pm hour.

gambit320
12-04-2010, 10:40 AM
They can just push it back to the 7pm hour. "Problem" solved.

Actually it already has the seven slot. However, with Young Justice joining the block next month one of the shows won't have a timeslot.

Despite high ratings, Some of those shows are also only on that night with saturday morning repeats. And Batman is only on that one night. Losing an hour on Friday only screws over the action shows. Losing that block for the entire week screws over everything else. They had been preparing by only showing repeats in the 9:30 slot, but that slot could have been used for plenty of things. A nightly American Dad could have fit into AS's schedule if they dropped an episode of KOTH or Family Guy. If this hour was being used in a good way, then maybe I would support it, but this is a terrible decision. It's Jetix all over again...

Daxdiv
12-04-2010, 10:46 AM
Cool, more American Dad on Adult Swim is a good thing. Well, this solved the mystery on what they're going to do concerning the early hour. Just glad it isn't another airing of FG or KOTH, since even though I love those shows, giving them more airings a day would be overkill.

Darklordavaitor
12-04-2010, 11:09 AM
They need to expand it an hour more in the evening and put The Simpsons on at 8 & 8:30pm. Hopefully, this will be the next step with [adult swim].

Why bother? All the best seasons of The Simpsons are already on DVD, it should still have a decent airing space on most syndication markets, and it'd cost too much for [as] to buy it. They have even said at a few different points that the show would cost too much for them to buy the rights to.

macattack
12-04-2010, 11:10 AM
The action block already starts at 7pm, what you're suggesting would give them just one hour a day to work with. There's already going to be zero breathing room for premieres with the 9pm expansion, so expanding Adult Swim to 8pm would be the dumbest plan CN will ever come up with.

Besides, at that point you might as well call Cartoon Network "the new Toon Disney". By that I mean that Jetix (Adult Swim) basically conquered Toon Disney (CN), and Toon Disney (CN) was left to die a slow and horrible death until Disney XD came along and put it out of its misery. In essence, an 8pm start time for Adult Swim would absolutely murder Cartoon Network.

We'd sooner see Adult Swim get the 6am hour than the 8pm hour.

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but who'd honestly be surprised if that is Cartoon Network's plan?

Gonzales
12-04-2010, 11:40 AM
Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but who'd honestly be surprised if that is Cartoon Network's plan?
Unlikely, since AS barely exists outside of the states.

The channel's management is just incompetent.

bklien
12-05-2010, 01:01 AM
What. A. Waste. With ratings already proving that current AS tactics are running long in the tooth, this further aggravates the problem.

And before you bring up football, let me remind you that football has never caused so much damage before on Sundays. There is a real decline going on.

And yes, what are they waiting for with Brotherhood? Either cancel and pull it or start it up again! The DVD release is imminent, which means FUNi didn't expect AS to stop it at all. The break's already been longer than the break that happened midway through the first series' premiere run.

BTW, chdr, Kekkaishi isn't being yanked. Bleach is still one episode a week.
Are new episodes of FMA going to be released on DVD before airing on AS? Also, what is Metal? Is that FMA?

bklien
12-05-2010, 01:03 AM
some people were hopeful but they'd have to be delusional to expect adult swim to do anything special with their new found prime time hours. This is generally what i always expected hinging on whether or not they were allowed to play double american dad on weekdays.

I wouldn't worry about star wars, it's always doing well. I'm sure it'll be on at 8:30pm on friday or possibly another night if they shuffle their action line-up in january. No matter what day it ends up on it'll surely be in the 8 hour where cn can get the most out of it.

As a fellow american dad enthusiast nightspirit i also look forward to having it daily and even for an hour (2 with encores). It's not nearly as overplayed as koth and fg have been thus far but of course with that many airings it's going to become just as overplayed in the long run. Fox is giving it the cold shoulder though so it's nice to see as show it some love.
if they move it to 8:30pm, what happens to generator rex?

{Shadow}
12-05-2010, 01:37 AM
Are new episodes of FMA going to be released on DVD before airing on AS?
Looks that way. The next DVD set will be released at the end of this month, and AS doesn't have any new episodes scheduled before then.


Also, what is Metal? Is that FMA?
Metal = Metalocalypse


if they move it to 8:30pm, what happens to generator rex?
Generator Rex will either be moved to an earlier spot or be taken off the lineup temporarily, but we don't know what CN will do yet. Only thing we know for certain is that Star Wars: The Clone Wars will indeed be taking the 8:30pm spot when it returns in January (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/pursuitofpeace_preview/index.html).

bklien
12-05-2010, 03:05 AM
Generator Rex will either be moved to an earlier spot or be taken off the lineup temporarily, but we don't know what CN will do yet. Only thing we know for certain is that Star Wars: The Clone Wars will indeed be taking the 8:30pm spot when it returns in January (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/pursuitofpeace_preview/index.html).
Hiatus, followed by it returning (summer?) when Star Wars runs out of new episodes?

Also, am I the only one who didn't like Sym-Biotic Titan? They said last week's episode was the season finale, so can they just move up both shows by a half hour REX 8PM, RIGHT AFTER BEN 10, FOLLOWED BY STAR WARS (ALSO, ON A SIDE NOTE, WASN'T STAR WARS ON AS FOR A TIME?)

Andrew T. Hingson
12-05-2010, 04:10 AM
Some people don't like Sym-Bionic Titan but I can't imagine why. I think it's pretty rad myself.

Star Wars moves to 8:30, I rather expected that. Rex might move to 8PM or 7PM depending on where they want to put Young Justice or even 7:30PM if Ben 10 moves to 7PM.

I'm rather hoping Sym-Bionic doesn't take a long break before more episodes premiere and Batman shouldn't have to take a break.

{Shadow}
12-05-2010, 06:30 AM
Some people don't like Sym-Bionic Titan but I can't imagine why. I think it's pretty rad myself.

Star Wars moves to 8:30, I rather expected that. Rex might move to 8PM or 7PM depending on where they want to put Young Justice or even 7:30PM if Ben 10 moves to 7PM.

I'm rather hoping Sym-Bionic doesn't take a long break before more episodes premiere and Batman shouldn't have to take a break.
Even though all the Friday shows are taking a break from premieres this month, only Sym-Bionic Titan and Ben 10: Ultimate Alien are being advertised as "season finales." Those two shows are probably the ones that will go on hiatus to make room for Young Justice and Star Wars. I predict that this is what they might do next month:

7:00pm - Batman: The Brave & The Bold
7:30pm - Generator Rex (or Young Justice)
8:00pm - Young Justice (or Generator Rex)
8:30pm - Star Wars: The Clone Wars

bklien
12-05-2010, 11:28 PM
Even though all the Friday shows are taking a break from premieres this month, only Sym-Bionic Titan and Ben 10: Ultimate Alien are being advertised as "season finales." Those two shows are probably the ones that will go on hiatus to make room for Young Justice and Star Wars. I predict that this is what they might do next month:

7:00pm - Batman: The Brave & The Bold
7:30pm - Generator Rex (or Young Justice)
8:00pm - Young Justice (or Generator Rex)
8:30pm - Star Wars: The Clone Wars

Is Young Justice a continuation of JLU? iF SO, WOULD Terry McGinnis (Batman Beyond), or Virgil Hawkins (Static) appear?

Jacob T. Paschal
12-05-2010, 11:39 PM
Is Young Justice a continuation of JLU? iF SO, WOULD Terry McGinnis (Batman Beyond), or Virgil Hawkins (Static) appear?

They have nothing to do with each other.

FTPC
12-07-2010, 01:36 AM
I wonder How and /or if Saturday's anime night will be effected by this move, Will it help it or kill it?

macattack
12-07-2010, 01:21 PM
Unlikely, since AS barely exists outside of the states.

The channel's management is just incompetent.

Well, if you let me expand on my thought . . .

The management's made it pretty clear they don't want to be running a "cartoon" network. The only moderate live-action success they have, Hole In The Wall, is getting played more and more despite not having a ton of episodes aired yet.

Adult Swim remains a ratings success though there's been some slippage as of late.

Stuart Snyder has more experience with "adult" programming than children's programming. Remember, Snyder helped run WWE when that programming was darker.

CN's original series, especially on the comedy end, are increasingly crass and edgy, and the action programming is becoming more violent. TV-PG is more common than TV-Y7 now.

If they turn Cartoon Network into Adult Swim, they don't have to run cartoons any more, or, at least, not as many, and don't have to commit as many resources to producing cartoons.

How hard would it be to oust Mike Lazzo and Kim Manning or at least put them in their place at Williams Street by taking AS programming out of WS' hands?

You can see where this is going.

Beat
12-09-2010, 08:54 AM
Seeing as my other post got nuked, I'll try again.

Changing a network over is hard. You need a flagship original show. For CN to become an all-ages general channel, they would need a show like that and Hole in the Wall isn't it. Spike had the WWE and later the UFC, SyFy now has Smackdown and several acclaimed dramas (as well as a lot of less than acclaimed original movies), TNT had Nitro and now has the NBA, TBS has baseball and now late nite talk shows, etc all.

Most of what still brings home money at the end of the day for Snyder are cartoons, on both CN and AS. Could Snyder conceivably go off the deep end and start airing pro sports or buy the rights to Bellator FC or HDNet's library of fight sports? Sure he could. Will he? Most likely no, since such a target audience shift requires both said killer app and a lot of money to do so.

At this point, the expansion seems more to increase an adult focus, not part of a total retool.

Zyzzybalubah
12-10-2010, 02:36 PM
I only hope King of the Hill is filler. Honestly, I understand them having hour long blocks of Family Guy, American Dad, Robot Chicken, or even Boondocks because they have proven success, KOTH on AS has continuously proven that its not that successful of an acquisition.

Daikun
12-18-2010, 09:16 PM
I only hope King of the Hill is filler.

Nope. The show has been going on for 2 years, and it has an episode count that rivals most of Fox's other long-runners.

Like Adult Swim's other Fox acquisitions, it's here to stay.