Fresh Question #12: Buffy vs. Blade

[Nightwing]

Greetings folks, it's new FQ time. What? Yeah I'm excited too!

In the past few weeks I've been getting vampires out the ears, and with my superhero slash good vs evil fetish in my fiction, I wouldn't have it any other way. So join me in a trip to hypothetical town. Come on, they got good grits:

In a battle of vampire slayers, who would win: Buffy or Blade??

[Nightflower]

Blade, I think. But maybe I say that because I lost respect for Buffy ^^' (Still can't deny her coolness though)

[TheHuntressDiana]

Even though I'm still a big Buffy fan, I'm going to have to agree with Nightwing on this one. Blade is just gonna kick Buffy-butt if they had to duke it out.

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by TheHuntressDiana
Even though I'm still a big Buffy fan, I'm going to have to agree with Nightwing on this one. Blade is just gonna kick Buffy-butt if they had to duke it out.
I said that, not Nightwing! :(

(Well, I suppose it's easy to confuse us Nights :p)

[James]

Buffy - as much as she irritates me - I've never been a Blade fan - and since Buffy has proved so far there hasn't been a vampire/half vampire/human/demon etc that she can't whip I think I'll put my metaphorical cash on Miss Summers!

[Spooky05]

where is akasha or lestat or armand or marius in all this? sorry, but i have to root for the vampires in this. i mean, i've had one of my teachers referr to me as a vampire, so yeah. sun bad, and i have the complexion to prove it.


and since Buffy has proved so far there hasn't been a vampire/half vampire/human/demon etc that she can't whip I think I'll put my metaphorical cash on Miss Summers!

and if thats so, why won't she just kill spike already? poor guy not only got dumped by dru, but fell in love with buffy. thats gotta take its toll on ones sanity, no matter how british you are.

[James]

Originally posted by Spooky05

thats gotta take its toll on ones sanity, no matter how british you are.

Poor old Spike. He'll brave it and get through it - another British trait!

:D

[cjshoup]

Blade would win.

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[Web Head]

I think Buffy in this thread is comparable to Batman in most internet VS threads. By that I mean if she had time to prepare and brainstorm with the scoobys she would in hands down.

If they just came upon each other and started duking it out, I give Blade the advantage. He's got a sword and all kinds of other weapons, Buffy usually only carries a stake. Assuming strength and skill are relatively similar, Blade comes out on top due to weaponry and a generally more bloodthirsty nature.

If she has time to plan an attack though, Buffy wins. She has so many resources available to her, and magic is available to her through Willow. If she can take a god out, she can handle a vampire half-breed.

BTW, I haven't yet seen Blade 2, so I can't comment on any changes/character growth in that movie.

[TheHuntressDiana]

Originally posted by Nightflower

I said that, not Nightwing! :(

(Well, I suppose it's easy to confuse us Nights :p)

I'm sorry Nightflower!

Major bad on my part...forgive me?

[Nightflower]

Never!

Awww, but your bunny ears are so cute. Okay :)

[RevToiletDuck]

Originally posted by Web Head
If they just came upon each other and started duking it out, I give Blade the advantage. He's got a sword and all kinds of other weapons, Buffy usually only carries a stake. Assuming strength and skill are relatively similar, Blade comes out on top due to weaponry and a generally more bloodthirsty nature.

If she has time to plan an attack though, Buffy wins. She has so many resources available to her, and magic is available to her through Willow. If she can take a god out, she can handle a vampire half-breed.

Absolutely correct. However, knowing Buffy, Blade would fall in love with her before ever having the chance to kill her. Thus, the fighting ends and they live happily ever after :)

[Aeijei]

It's an Even Match.

Buffy and Blade aren't normal humans, and seem to be equally super strong. Both have considerable martial arts training. And while Blade has more high-tech weapons and such, Buffy has just as many Majik resources in Willow. Technology Vs. Magic is a draw in itself, as both are devestating if used against the other effectively.

So no one wins, they just team up against the half-assed uninspired villain that was created to even get the two of them together and kick it's ass.

*Hopes Marvel/Dark Horse doesn't make a crossover comic after somehow spotting this thread*

[Failure]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that Willow cant use magic anymore, unles Buffy wants to lose her to the dark side. And the rest of Buffy's gang is pretty much useless when it comes to fighting time.

I say Blade, he'll probably strike Buffy down while she's moping about her love life or whatever.

[Aeijei]

Geh...I still say it's an equal match.

And Willow can't use majik anymore? Oh well, I guess this is what I get for not having UPN...

[Chibi Kageboshi]

Buffy.. she was chosen after all.

[Calico]

Originally posted by Chibi Kageboshi
Buffy.. she was chosen after all.

Shoot, I was gonna say that :( Anyway, Buffy wins, hands down.

[oranthal]

blade wins for sure. he could take vampires easily; buffy on the other hand sometimes have trouble with normal people let alone vampires but that probably has something to do with the fact of inconsistent story telling.

did you know the dude who plays spike is 39 years old?

[Nightflower]

Originally posted by RevToiletDuck


Absolutely correct. However, knowing Buffy, Blade would fall in love with her before ever having the chance to kill her. Thus, the fighting ends and they live happily ever after :)

Wait a minute..... I know you.... :eek: Hey Jon! Come to the Cafe Toon Zone board ... I'm a moderator there :)

[RevToiletDuck]

Why? so you can edit all my posts like you do at the other board? no, thank you. I suggest to whoever's in charge of this board that you should remove NF's moderator status, she abuses it like there's no tomorrow :)

[Nightflower]

He's kidding..... Really. He's my friend from school, and in no way should you take his words seriously and doubt my sense of responsibility and maturity.

[FLIPMODE]

Oh come on.

Blade. :rolleyes:

There's no way for Buffy to thoughtfully kill him. She'll see his teeth and try to stab him with a stake. He can't die that way. Plus he's got enhanced strength, and he's very durable. His head gets swung through Concrete in Part 2, and the man's still alive to fight. Buffy's head on the other hand would burst.

And as far as fighting, if Buffy's a 10, Blade's a 20.
Plus he's a master of the sword, how is she going to block a swipe from his--Blade? (No Pun intended) With her hands?

And there really is'nt a way for her to actually kill him. No SunLight, No Garlic, No Stakes. He's only Half vampire, he's not running around biting people, theres no way for her to plan a trap for him. Plus he heals fast.

I think they'd meet. He'd look at her then Laugh. She'd kick him in the face, and then He'd slap her to the ground. She'd whimper in pain. Then he'll get her some better gear to hunt Vampires with. Plus a Cool Black Coat, and Shades, and she'll join his team.

The end.

[Nightwing]

In regards to Nightflower & RevToiletDuck: Yeah well why don't I just ban the both of you chuckle heads, that'll make things even. ;) Hehe, I'm kidding too. But watch yourself Rev, speaking as one of the people NF talks to online, I should warn you. If you think she's strange in real life, wait till you talk to her online more. :p

Ya know I'm really suprised, yet happy, with the very diverse opinions, becauase I just figured everyone would go for Blade. And frankly I would have perfectly understood. Like I said in a past thread, Blade and his vampire story's continuity seem a lot more realistic than Buffy's. Blade's is more about science, genetics and reality, while Buffy's is more about the spiritual and demon worlds. Heck, her character itself reflects that too.

But anyway, I myself am undecided, but I'd probably go with our darling Buffy. I still love both types of story though.

[Web Head]

I never really understood why they say getting stabbed in the heart with a big piece of wood will kill vampires. Doesn't that kill everybody?

I'm sure that if Blade took a stake in the heart it would put him down, or at least severely impair his fighting ability.

[Bleu Unicorn]

Originally posted by Web Head
I never really understood why they say getting stabbed in the heart with a big piece of wood will kill vampires. Doesn't that kill everybody?

I'm sure that if Blade took a stake in the heart it would put him down, or at least severely impair his fighting ability.

It's funny, but I never really thought of that till you said it, Web Head. I think the fact that it is just an odd weapon is why it seems to stick in the vampire mythos. Who would actually fight with a "pointy stick" as their weapon of choice.

Of course, your point that it would potentially kill anyone is pretty much true. I don't really know how to comment on that.

[James]

Originally posted by BleuUnicorns


It's funny, but I never really thought of that till you said it, Web Head. I think the fact that it is just an odd weapon is why it seems to stick in the vampire mythos. Who would actually fight with a "pointy stick" as their weapon of choice.

Of course, your point that it would potentially kill anyone is pretty much true. I don't really know how to comment on that.

I think you also have to look at them in comparison to their individual 'universes'. Irrespective of whether you think the pointy stick would limit Buffy, or the fact that she only fights Vampires and would be unprepared for the might of Blade, in Buffy's world she is the head honcho. Other great demons/Gods/Vampires/Half Vampires have fallen to her and I don't find that Blade in himself would rate much differently.

However, if Buffy was from Blade's world, perhaps he would beat her as the status quo is very different there.

Personally I see it from the perspective of a Buffy universe as I prefer the show to any of the Blade concepts so I'm biased to seeing it from the Buffy World's vision...!

[D.Shaffer]

First I'd want to know how they can even MEET to fight against each other. ;)

Next, I'd want to know why they'd fight? Sure Blade has that half vampire thing going, but it's not like he fits the 'look' of vampires that Buffy is used to. Unless he lunged at her, fangs bared, she wouldnt even know he was half vampire. So why the slugging match to begin with?

But in general? Blade. He's got the cool gear. ;)

[Bleu Unicorn]

Originally posted by D.Shaffer

Next, I'd want to know why they'd fight? Sure Blade has that half vampire thing going, but it's not like he fits the 'look' of vampires that Buffy is used to. Unless he lunged at her, fangs bared, she wouldnt even know he was half vampire. So why the slugging match to begin with?



Buffy can usually "sense" if there is a vampire around -- so one could assume that she could sense Blade's vampire half. Though that could possibly be stretching it, since there have been times she's been on the oblivious side to noticing vampires.

[D.Shaffer]

Originally posted by BleuUnicorns
Buffy can usually "sense" if there is a vampire around -- so one could assume that she could sense Blade's vampire half. Though that could possibly be stretching it, since there have been times she's been on the oblivious side to noticing vampires.
Actually, CAN she still sense vampires? I know that was an important element in the first movie, but did they ever state it one way or the other in the series? She didnt realise Angel was a vampire when she first met him, after all.

[Bleu Unicorn]

Originally posted by D.Shaffer

Actually, CAN she still sense vampires? I know that was an important element in the first movie, but did they ever state it one way or the other in the series? She didnt realise Angel was a vampire when she first met him, after all.

Seems to be an on-again/off-again ability. In the first ep of the show Giles talks about her ability to sense (or rather that she "should be able to"). And she has sensed vampires around her -- though the obvious ones she seems oblivious to, so in answer... I don't really know. That's why I said "usually". :) :p

[SpaceCub]

*Sigh* I can't believe this, how can anyone side with Buffy? Blade would win. For one, he actually carries weapons more deadly than a wooden stake, two he moves faster, three he's nearly impossible to kill.

But here's a better question: Blade or Vampire Hunter D? I wouldn't like to think of it as a "vs" thing, just who's the better hunter. Sure, Blade kills a lot more vamps, but compared to D's world, there's more available. And almost all the vamps Blade kills aren't even pure-bloods, with little more ability than your standard human (with a little more speed and strength). Yeah, he kills hard guys once in a while, but compared to what D goes up against, he's in a whole nother league. I'd like to see Blade (or Buffy, lol) go head to head with Magnus Lee, or hell, Meier Link.

PS: If you haven't seen VHD or Bloodlust, do so immediately.

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"You do not know who you are f-ing with!"

[Web Head]

*Sigh* I can't believe this, how can anyone side with Buffy? Blade would win. For one, he actually carries weapons more deadly than a wooden stake, two he moves faster, three he's nearly impossible to kill.
Buffy's killed a GOD . So since you're saying that Blade is so much stronger than Buffy, he must have come into some new power in the sequel. Because unless he develops god-like powers, this is no slam dunk fight and Buffy most definitely stands a chance.

[Failure]

Originally posted by Web Head

Buffy's killed a GOD . So since you're saying that Blade is so much stronger than Buffy, he must have come into some new power in the sequel. Because unless he develops god-like powers, this is no slam dunk fight and Buffy most definitely stands a chance.

Well, she defeated the god by sacrificing herself through a portal, not by overpowering her. And the catch was that the god had a human side which was her weak point. If they had a slugfest, there's no doubt Buffy would've lost.

That said, of course Buffy won, it is her show.

[SpaceCub]

They did give Blade some new moves that made him look pretty dang impressive. But I still think he'd win simply because he has a gun. Only Deacon Frost (and Blade trounced his rear) and Neo could dodge that.

Web-Head, did you see VHD? Magnus Lee was pretty near "god" status (although he couldn't create the universe out of nothing, which is why I'm always slow to call someone a "god") and D played him like a fiddle.

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"Can you teach me to dodge bullets?"
"When I'm finished, you won't need to"

"Do not try to bend the spoon, only try to see the truth"
"What is the truth?"
"There is no spoon"

[James]

Originally posted by Failure


Well, she defeated the god by sacrificing herself through a portal, not by overpowering her. And the catch was that the god had a human side which was her weak point. If they had a slugfest, there's no doubt Buffy would've lost.

That said, of course Buffy won, it is her show.

Even so, Buffy could hold her own against her throughout the series before the finale... just..!

As for it being her show, this goes back to the point I made earlier. Look at Angel, one of the toughest Vampires ever, and even he knows she could whip his ever so popular booty. Then we could look at Dracula, demons, gods.. etc, etc.. however, these examples are from her universe and any of Blades from his.

Fact it that Buffy is a Vampire Slayer. Her abilities are purely to kill Vampires. What ever the powers that be ordain to the indivdual it is to counter measure that of a Vampire. So if we take away the specifics from each characters battles (otherwise we circle round and round and round...) and look at what they are, there is no doubt that they are evenly matched.

[FLIPMODE]

This is kinda Like Wolverine Versus the Smurfs.
As funk Master Flex would say: "It Aint Gon Happen".

In any universe, Blade's Gun will rip through Buffy, Blade's Sword will Slice her in half, Blade's fighting will send her through a brick wall.

Getting thrown through Concrete, head first, he shrugged it off. Ripping the adams apple off a Man, seeing in Darkness, regeneration of severe injuries, instantaneoulsy when drinks Blood, he's done all this.

Do you think if Blade swung Buffy by her legs, head first through a slab of concrete, that Buffy's head would still be intact? I don't think so. :p

Btw, Blade's head was still intact.

They're both vampire hunter's, but they're in two totally different leagues.

[Nightwing]

I wouldn't say different leagues, I'd say different continuities. Buffy was given all the exact same advantages that vampires have, just not in Blade's continuity, cuz that's a different depiction of a world with Vampires. So I'd say, if Buffy really couldn't win, then they would be somewhat evenly matched at the very least.

[James]

That would seem a very sensible summary! :D

What a surprisingly heated debate...!

[JohnCrichton]

Yeah, without much thought I'd give the fight to Blade. I'd prefer to go drinking and hanging out with Buffy.... I think she's prettier and more fun, but Blade is built simply to be a butt-kicker.

He's a martial art, vampire killing tank. He wouldn't hesistate to pop a cap in her and if he didn't have guns, he's martial art skills over match her and if we wanted to pretend they were equals in martial arts, his strength would put him over the top.

It's like Shaft vs A Charlie's Angel.

The bad mutha will always come out on top.

EDIT: HERE'S a fight that would be a contest..... Vampire Hunter D vs Jubei Kibagami of Ninja Scroll. Hopefully it could be staged somewhere in an abandoned solar system, cuz the only place I'd like to view THAT kind of fight would be a star system away.

[Chris Sanders MSX]

Blade.. Hands Down.

Buffy would see him and think he's a vampire just on looks alone and instinctivly try all the ways of killing a vampire on him and when the least leathal ones don't work due to Blades quickness and definet proof of more experience she'd go down.

I'm sorry there's no way Buffy could take down Blade. All Blade would have to do is throw one of Whistlers inventions at her like the needles that cause implosion and she's done with.

Or maybe they guy is bored so he decides to toy with her and fight. He's already got the definet advantage being a WAY better fighter... Not to mention he almost always shows no mercy, unlike a certain vampire slayer. Buffy would be out classed out smarted
and out done.

Sides.. Blade actually has powers.. and Buffy has um..friends ?

[Fayina]

Interesting debate....

Blade would definitely win!! Buffy would not even have a chance. Like everyone has said, Blade is WAY too overpowering for her. Someone did mentioned Buffy killing a goddess (by killing herself), but didn't Blade do that as well in the first movie. It has been awhile since I saw it, but didn't Stephen Dorff's character turn into a godlike character at the end. He was supposed to be indestructible or something and Blade still killed him!

Everything in Buffy's world looks like flowers a candy compared to the heavy duty stuff in Blade's world. Blade's world is MUCH more deadlier, with worse villians, more weapons and technology... and I bigger budget. :rolleyes: Blade would definitely win.

With the pairings of Vampire Hunter D vs. Blade and Vampire Hunter D vs. Jubei... I would have to think a little more about it. I have yet to see the second Vampire Hunter D movie so I don't think I could give an accurate answer. :)

[Bleu Unicorn]

'Kay, just cause this is bugging me a lot -- I want to mention this. Technically, Giles kills the goddess -- Buffy just beats the pulp out her beforehand. Her dying was to save the world from being sucked into (and/or merged with) every hell dimension known.

All right, I feel better now.

Anyway, I think I'll finally throw my two cents in. I think, first off, it would be difficult to say exactly who would win, since we are talking about two completely different worlds. It's apples and oranges. Respectively, they are each champions in their respective worlds, so they each have that under their belts.

I must say, that Buffy has proven herself capable of surviving in environments that are not her own -- for instance, she has gone to hell and defeated enemies their in that dimension. She's proven herself basically able to take on ever foe that has come her way -- though sometimes just barely, but that's TV drama, of course, just as much her own lack of skill in some areas.

On to Blade -- we all know he can kick serious tail. He's got basically all the same powers as Buffy -- except not the same code. So, saying that she doesn't know he's a vamp, she wouldn't kill him, since she won't kill anything that isn't a demon. Or, say she knows he's a vamp... all he'd have to do is explain that he isn't evil and all... and thus negate the fight all togther.

And finally (since I'm being long-winded and all), I'd say that if all that didn't happen, I would have to go with Blade. I think it'd be a serious fight, with good blows on both sides, but I just think he'd come out on tops (maybe it's because I haven't seen a new ep of Buffy in ages). Who knows!

-- Uni

[spyke]

It depends on which version of blade you are talking about.

1. The original comic book version of blade did not become half vampire from the bite his mother received from deacon frost. He did however, became imune to the bites of vampires and he also had the ability to sense the presence of vampires and other mystical creatures (yes vampirism in the marvel universe is mystical and not scientific). Blade originaly used wooden stakes,knives, and arrows made out of wood to kill vampires. When blade reapeared in the early 90's, he started using a sword as well as all his wooden weapons (though he might have used a sword in his early appearances in the 70's, and I'm pretty sur he used a sword in the only early 70's story I read featuring blade). In the 8th issue of blades first solo series in the early 90's, he started realizing that he was getting healing faster as well as becoming stronger and faster. Up until a year ago, the blade in the comics never had any vampiric urges (drinking blood), but because of the success of the movies ,marvel has decided to make blade more like the movie version.

2. You all know the story of the movie version of blade, so I'm not gonna waste time telling you about him.

Regardless which version of blade you are talking about, blade will win in a fight against buffy.