"Young Justice (Animated Series)" News & Discussion Thread, Part 3 (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

What if you’re not just a normal teenager? A Young Justice special event will air November 2010 followed by regular airings starting January 2011 on Cartoon Network.


http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news/images/t-yjposter.jpg (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=728)
Young Justice Poster: (Left to Right) Artemis, Robin, Kid Flash, Superboy, Miss Martian and Aqualad
"Young Justice" © Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.
"Young Justice" and all related characters and elements are trademarks of and © DC ComicsOfficial Description:

Young Justice - In Young Justice, being a teenager means proving yourself over and over—to peers, parents, teachers, mentors and, ultimately, to yourself. But what if you’re not just a normal teenager? What if you’re a teenage super hero? Are you ready to join the ranks of the great heroes and prove you’re worthy of the Justice League? That’s exactly what the members of Young Justice — Robin, Aqualad, Kid Flash, Superboy, Miss Martian and Artemis—will find out, whether they have what it takes to be a proven hero. This all-new series is produced by Warner Bros. Animation and based upon characters from DC Comics. Sam Register (Teen Titans, Ben 10, Batman: The Brave and the Bold) is the executive producer. Brandon Vietti (Batman: Under the Red Hood, Superman Doomsday, The Batman) and Greg Weisman (Gargoyles, The Spectacular Spider-Man, W.I.T.C.H.) are the producers.

Keep it locked at The World's Finest (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/main.php) and toonzone News (http://news.toonzone.net) for the latest updates!

Previous Installments:
-Young Justice (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part 1 (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=267199)
-Young Justice (Animated Series) News & Discussion Thread, Part 2 (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=271321)

[graysongirl]

in regaurds to the last comment on the last installment, you're probably totally right :D who knows? maybe this Robin suit will be able to glide like the nightwing costume :) hahahha oh! and they have the first aqualad changing his identity to tempest, and speedy to red arrow, so there's that too. haha

[RoryWilliams]

in regaurds to the last comment on the last installment, you're probably totally right :D who knows? maybe this Robin suit will be able to glide like the nightwing costume :) hahahha oh! and they have the first aqualad changing his identity to tempest, and speedy to red arrow, so there's that too. haha
I'd KILL for glider-cape Robin! :anime:
And yeah, Red Arrow's design looks cool. Hopefully they don't rip off his arm this time around!

Which brings me to something else....Prometheus might be a cool villain for them to use in Young Justice! He's gotten a bit Mary Sue-ish in recent years, but he might be awesome in cartoon form.

[graysongirl]

Totally! Another cool villian to have if they bring in Secret - which they have hinted at - would be Harm. Recently started reading the YJ comics- he's totaly cool. Badass, and Secrets brother :)

[Harlequinn]

Just a bit until the panel starts

[firefoxprime]

What time does the panel begin?:sweat:

[graysongirl]

it's going on now. it's from 3:45-4:45 :D can't wait to seeeeeeeee!

[Harlequinn]

Hope someone uploads soon.

[Green-Ghost]

Newsarama has a coverage of the panel including description of the footage:
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/nycc201-young-justice-animated-101009.html

[graysongirl]

Newsarama has a coverage of the panel including description of the footage:
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/nycc201-young-justice-animated-101009.html

SWEET! AMAZING! AWESOME! SPONTABULOUS! By reading that, it sounds like maybe in this world Superboy is a cadmus project? and that the sidekicks find him and free him?

And they said Black Canary will be the combat trainer? and that Captain marvel will be hanging with them? Aweeeeeeeeeeosme!

CANT WAIT TO SEE THE CLIP! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Harlequinn]

I need to see that clip SO BADLY!

[graysongirl]

Same! I am so desperate to see it, that i've been checking youtube every five minutes for the past half hour to see if anyone's uploaded it yet! :eek:

[RoryWilliams]

Looking at these quotes:


How about secret identities? Dick Grayson keeps his identity a secret through the rest of the series.

Red Tornado acts as a bit of a live-in den mother for the team, Vietti says, but they won't typically be tagging along.

, and Captain Marvel "will be hanging out a bit at the cave"... because secretly he's a 10-year-old kid.

That sounds like it's coming straight out of the Young Justice comics, so that's awesome. And yeah, double awesome on Black Canary being the combat trainer!

And this.....

Why is Speedy (Roy Harper) not in the original group shot? Vietti says that will be apparent after the first episode.

....leads me to believe that things will not end well for Roy.

[graysongirl]

My guess on Roy is that he just isn't part of the team at first. He needs time to grow into red arrow, so he could join the team after his identity switch.

And Kid Flash of all people knowing Robin's secret identity?! And the fact that their best friends? That just turned up the interesting-meter tenfold!

[RoryWilliams]

Oh snap, the Guardian is going to be in it too? It seems like they're doing a fairly nice job of honoring Superboy's roots.

[graysongirl]

they're doing a good job honoring all of their roots. well, that i know of. in the Teen Titans comics Robin and Kid Flash are best friends, like in the show, to the point where Robin is KF's best man at his wedding. Superboy's origins are pretty dead on, and though the new Aquadude's origins are different origins, (the comics being on earth-0) since he's new his origins on the show are all cannon.

and with three of the flash-family on the show? win!

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I think I'm more anxiously excited about this series than any other television or movie project set to be released for the next two or three years.

I can't wait!


Oh snap, the Guardian is going to be in it too?

Who's the Guardian? I'm not sure I'm familiar with that character.

[graysongirl]

the gaurdian is literally the gaurdian of the newsboy legion. the newsboy legion members grow up to become heads of the cadmous project. He also is Speedy's great uncle, and used to be a vigilante in metropolis.

the cadmous project (if you don't know) is the group that's working with cloning. they cloned supergirl at one point, and im pretty sure they created superboy as well. the gaurdian was actually saved by them when he was about to die, them having taken his soul and put it into a younger body of himself. or something like that.

[Dreyfus]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/112/1126674p1.html

The Guardian was working for Cadmus during the Return of Superman, which is where Superboy first showed up. He was like the head of security for Cadmus when Superboy escaped.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

the gaurdian is literally the gaurdian of the newsboy legion. the newsboy legion members grow up to become heads of the cadmous project. He also is Speedy's great uncle, and used to be a vigilante in metropolis.

the cadmous project (if you don't know) is the group that's working with cloning. they cloned supergirl at one point, and im pretty sure they created superboy as well. the gaurdian was actually saved by them when he was about to die, them having taken his soul and put it into a younger body of himself. or something like that.

Thanks. I'm mostly familiar with Cadmus through the DC animated shows like Justice League/Justice League Unlimited, and I know that Superboy (Conner Kent) is a clone, but I've never heard of The Guardian or the Newsboy Legion.

[graysongirl]

Thanks. I'm mostly familiar with Cadmus through the DC animated shows like Justice League/Justice League Unlimited, and I know that Superboy (Conner Kent) is a clone, but I've never heard of The Guardian or the Newsboy Legion.

No problem :) and actually, that's all I knew Cadmus from too, until I got into the Young Justice comics and went on a wikipedia frenzy ;)

[graysongirl]

hey, just found this, and it had a little bit more detail than the other link. Thought I should share:

http://tv.ign.com/articles/112/1126674p1.html

[Dreyfus]

It's posted a page back. I have a habit of adding links to my older posts.

[graysongirl]

It's posted a page back. I have a habit of adding links to my older posts.

oops. didn't see it before. sorry! :sweat:

Well, here's a different coolio site:

http://www.ugo.com/tv/nycc-2010-young-justice

they mention the 22 ep will "deal directly with the notion of Batman putting a 13-year old Robin into a life of crime-fighting" interesting much?

[Dreyfus]

Sounds like an interesting basis for an episode. That note about Speedy could also be more evidence that he will be the character who dies.

[W.C.Reaf]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/112/1126674p1.html

OK so what the betting that the "Characters will age." bit is done to get Artemis and/or Kid Flash to have a 16th birthday and get another 16 into the show?

[Livy1213]

I guess this confirms that the starting line up will be Aqualad, Speedy, Robin and Kid Flash while Artemis will be the last member to join and Superboy will take Speedy's place on the team.

Pretty sure Zatara will die but I'm not too sure about Speedy since they showed that design of him as Red Arrow.

I guess those rumors of cold villains turned out to be true, which further supports the idea of Artemis being Artemis Crock.

[graysongirl]

Very interesting indeed :)

And on the speedy note, I think maybe the first episode is the only episode where he's 'speedy' and he comes back soon as red arrow?

Not sure about speedy death, but I agree that it's gonna be an archer that hits the sack. It's anyone guess though. Logically it'd be an archer, seeing as there are three of them. Too many fans would flip if they killed Robin, plus the fact that he at least makes it till the 22nd episode. Same with KF. I don't think they'd kill off aqualad, as he's only been around a few months. Miss martain I don't know much about, so she migh hit the hay.

Personally i think artemis will hit the hey to make room for arrowette wondergirl ad secret.

[RoryWilliams]

I guess this confirms that the starting line up will be Aqualad, Speedy, Robin and Kid Flash while Artemis will be the last member to join and Superboy will take Speedy's place on the team.

Pretty sure Zatara will die but I'm not too sure about Speedy since they showed that design of him as Red Arrow.

I guess those rumors of cold villains turned out to be true, which further supports the idea of Artemis being Artemis Crock.

The IGN breakdown even mentions Green Arrow referring to Icicle as "The Kid". So if he's portrayed as a teenager, that puts him in the perfect position for forbidden romance with Artemis.

[graysongirl]

Interesting. So she might. Betray the team to be with him, sort of like a reverse situation of when Jinx left the Hive to be with KF. That supports the theory of her being Tigress/Artemis Crock nicely. Though she does have the looks/abilities of GA, making it a possibility that she's Olivia Queen, GA's kid. I bet they put that icicle bit in just to further drive us nuts!

[BreakAbone]

The IGN breakdown even mentions Green Arrow referring to Icicle as "The Kid". So if he's portrayed as a teenager, that puts him in the perfect position for forbidden romance with Artemis.

Actually it was Junior I believe, and Bruce Timm said Icicle Jr during the panel.

Also, Speedy doesn't appear during the Cadmus break-in, which leads me to believe there is some falling out with him even before the Hall of Justice or maybe inside the Hall of Justice.

The promo reel was awesome though, and they showed it twice!

I love Aqualad's voice. Robin's gonna take some getting use to.

[Harlequinn]

I want this clip so bad!

[Mad Hatter]

I...I...

I can't wait for November. It's just too long. Especially with all these new revelations. I mean, Jay Garrick, Zan and Jayna, and Garth just made me geek out there when I read their names. There are the clips that I DESPERATELY need to see, and of course, the 150 characters in the first EIGHTEEN episodes. WOW!

I have officially decided that starting with the November premiere, I'm posting a thread that lists the characters that appear every week, JUST so they can be definitively counted. It's not to nitpick about the statistic. It's just for fun, really.

So let's see. So far, we've got:
Superman (Clark Kent/Kal-El)
Superboy (Conner Kent/Kon-El)
Batman (Bruce Wayne)
Robin (Dick Grayson)
Wonder Woman (Princess Diana of Themyscira)
Artemis (?)
Flash (Barry Allen)
Flash (Jay Garrick)
Kid Flash (Wally West) (by the way, I LOVE the cannonball thing with Kid Flash. AWEsome.)
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Green Lantern (John Stewart)
Aquaman (Arthur Curry (presumably))
Aqualad (Jackson Hyde)
Garth (maybe Tempest here?)
Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz)
Miss Martian (Megan Morzz)
Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)
Speedy (Roy Harper)
Black Canary (Dinah Lance)
Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) (I love the idea of him hanging out with the team)
Mary Marvel (Mary Batson) (possibly)
Red Tornado (John Smith)
Hawkman (Carter Hall)
Hawkwoman (Shiera Hall)
Zatara the Magician
Captain Atom (Nathaniel Adams) (which is a weird choice, by the way)
Secret (possibly)

Dubbilex
Guardian (Jim Harper)

Icicle (probably Cameron Mahkent, based on the "kid" comment made in the clip)
Captain Cold (Len Snart)
Killer Frost (Louise Lincoln)
Mister Freeze (Victor Fries)
Queen Bee (Zazzala)
Black Manta (probably)
Joker (possibly)
Cheshire (possibly)

That adds up to 30 confirmed characters, and 5 others that could possibly or probably be appearing. They may not all be in the first 18 episodes, but does it matter? No. Some perspective: in the entire first season of Justice League there are somewhere between 38 and 42 characters from the comics. And this is in 26 episodes. And, yes, I realize that is due in part to the two-part episodes, but to remedy this, I'll include the second season, which contains about 45 characters and 26 more episodes. If you include two parters and three parters, you could say that there are 25 episodes (with each part in the same episode). So in 25 (really 52) episodes of Justice League, approximately 87 characters from the comics appeared, in cameo or in a starring role. And in the first EIGHTEEN episodes of this show, 150 characters from the comics appear. Wow. I mean, WOW.

And already, there's a list of 30 confirmed characters in this show. My brain just imploded in excitement, anticipation, and FEAR at the same time. As IGN said..
Young Justice Will KICK ASS!!

Look out for the count thread on November 26th. Let me know if I missed anyone on this list.

AWEsome.

EDIT: Just added Dubbilex and Guardian to the list. That boosts it to 32 confirmed characters

[suss2it]

I hope it's not Speedy/Red Arrow who dies, I've always like archers and it'd be a shame to lose one, however I do realize that there is one to many of them.

I'm betting that Zatara will be the one to bite the bullet though seeing as how he's not a major character and in the comics hasn't served on the Justice League, while his daughter is a long-time member.

[graysongirl]

Zatara is a given for who will either die or retire. But they never said anything about there only being one death.

In the links, it said that there was a gap of heroes, and that the golden agers were fighting in the 1940's, and the show takes place in 2010. It was said that most of them have already died or retired. Jay Garrek (flash) would be at least in his 90's, so him and whatever other goldies are in the show might die too. Multiple seats are an option.

And if you think about it, there's not just three archers:
3 flashes- jay, bary & wally
3 aqua's- aquaman, tempest & aqualad
and over time there are about five robins, so if they ever wanted to replace him...
Anyone's a possibility really.

[Livy1213]

I...I...

I can't wait for November. It's just too long. Especially with all these new revelations. I mean, Jay Garrick, Zan and Jayna, and Garth just made me geek out there when I read their names. There are the clips that I DESPERATELY need to see, and of course, the 150 characters in the first EIGHTEEN episodes. WOW!

I have officially decided that starting with the November premiere, I'm posting a thread that lists the characters that appear every week, JUST so they can be definitively counted. It's not to nitpick about the statistic. It's just for fun, really.

So let's see. So far, we've got:
Superman (Clark Kent/Kal-El)
Superboy (Conner Kent/Kon-El)
Batman (Bruce Wayne)
Robin (Dick Grayson)
Wonder Woman (Princess Diana of Themyscira)
Artemis (?)
Flash (Barry Allen)
Flash (Jay Garrick)
Kid Flash (Wally West) (by the way, I LOVE the cannonball thing with Kid Flash. AWEsome.)
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Green Lantern (John Stewart)
Aquaman (Arthur Curry (presumably))
Aqualad (Jackson Hyde)
Garth (maybe Tempest here?)
Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz)
Miss Martian (Megan Morzz)
Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)
Speedy (Roy Harper)
Black Canary (Dinah Lance)
Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) (I love the idea of him hanging out with the team)
Mary Marvel (Mary Batson) (possibly)
Red Tornado (John Smith)
Hawkman (Carter Hall)
Hawkwoman (Shiera Hall)
Zatara the Magician
Captain Atom (Nathaniel Adams) (which is a weird choice, by the way)
Secret (possibly)

Icicle (probably Cameron Mahkent, based on the "kid" comment made in the clip)
Captain Cold (Len Snart)
Killer Frost (Louise Lincoln)
Mister Freeze (Victor Fries)
Queen Bee (Zazzala)
Black Manta (probably)
Joker (possibly)
Cheshire (possibly)

Just a correction for your awesome list Mad Hatter, Greg confirmed recently that this Aqualad isn't named Jackson Hyde.

[graysongirl]

Just a correction for your awesome list Mad Hatter, Greg confirmed recently that this Aqualad isn't named Jackson Hyde.

Yea, whats up with that? I mean, I know in the comics the new aqualad was introduced on earth-0 and this is earth-16, but wouldn't they have the same name anyways?

[RoryWilliams]

Yea, whats up with that? I mean, I know in the comics the new aqualad was introduced on earth-0 and this is earth-16, but wouldn't they have the same name anyways?
Not really. YJ was apparently in production a while before DC decided to bring Aqualad into their comics, so they had to sort of shoehorn the character into their continuity.

In the TV show, the panel seems to indicate that Aqualad is from Atlantis and is one of Aquaman's loyal subjects (he even calls him "My King"). In the comics however, Aquaman was dead for a couple of years up until just recently, and Atlantis was destroyed and still has yet to be rebuilt. So to work Aqualad into the comics, they went and added in the idea of him being a teenaged boy who doesn't realize that he's a "Merman" or whatever they're called.

[graysongirl]

Not really. YJ was apparently in production a while before DC decided to bring Aqualad into their comics, so they had to sort of shoehorn the character into their continuity.

In the TV show, the panel seems to indicate that Aqualad is from Atlantis and is one of Aquaman's loyal subjects (he even calls him "My King"). In the comics however, Aquaman was dead for a couple of years up until just recently, and Atlantis was destroyed and still has yet to be rebuilt. So to work Aqualad into the comics, they went and added in the idea of him being a teenaged boy who doesn't realize that he's a "Merman" or whatever they're called.

Okay, thanks, that makes sense. I'm just confused as to why they'd use a different name, when it's the same kid. They have confirmed that the Aqualad in the show is Black Manta's son just like in the comics, though he doesn't know it.

And about Aqualad calling Aquaman "My King," you say that would point him out as a loyal subject from Atlantis, where I'm pretty sure the first Aqualad grew up. but did they ever say which aqualad it was? It could've been Garth in that scene. Did anyone here see the clip? If so could'ja confirm which aqualad it is?

[Livy1213]

And about Aqualad calling Aquaman "My King," you say that would point him out as a loyal subject from Atlantis, where I'm pretty sure the first Aqualad grew up. but did they ever say which aqualad it was? It could've been Garth in that scene. Did anyone here see the clip? If so could'ja confirm which aqualad it is?
What exactly are you asking? Was the Aqualad in the clip Garth? They are two different people and though I haven't seen the clip, I'd say no. I doubt fans would get the two confused since they look so different. Garth is in the show but he's not part of the team like this new Aqualad is.

[graysongirl]

i'm just asking which aqualad is in the clip, because i know you can't get the two confused, it just clarifies the clip, and if it's the first aqualad in the clip it'd make the new aqualad's origin more clear, not being from atlantis... or something. idk, ignore me. i'm just gonna be really confused until i see the clip. :sweat:

[Harlequinn]

Okay, I'm getting stressed. NO panel upload? NO clips? This is ANNOYING. I need the clips NOW.

[RoryWilliams]

Okay, I'm getting stressed. NO panel upload? NO clips? This is ANNOYING. I need the clips NOW.

Let's beat somebody up!

[graysongirl]

Oooooooooooor we can take the non-violent way and check youtube/google every five minutes to see if it's been uploaded :O) oh? no takers? thought so... :sweat::D:anime::evil::ack:

[Harlequinn]

What? Violence ain't good enough for yeh?

Anyway, Let's just say if we dont get that trailer today, there will be a very mad little Jester. And when there's a mad little Jester, there isn't hope. :evil:

[graysongirl]

Nah, more like I'm not good enough for violence ;)
But you know, according to the date/ astrological numbers or whatever, 'the energy of the date for 10/10/10 aren't very possitive ones.... :evil::evil:

apparently there's supposed to be a lot of violence/mayhem/crazyness :D now we got an excuse for violence... :)

[RoryWilliams]

Nah, more like I'm not good enough for violence ;)
But you know, according to the date/ astrological numbers or whatever, 'the energy of the numbers for 10/10/10 aren't very possitive ones.... :evil::evil:

Yes. Very negative.
Let's just grab Greg Weisman instead! XD

[Livy1213]

I'm guessing we probably won't be getting any official uploads of the con until Monday at least.

[RoryWilliams]

I'm guessing we probably won't be getting any official uploads of the con until Monday at least.

Yup. I'm guessing sometime this week as well. I believe WB put up the last Young Justice video as well.

[Dreyfus]

Another secret is that Batman has forbidden Robin from revealing his secret identity but he has in fact revealed it to Wally West aka Kid Flash. Batman does not know this...yet.
http://www.comicsonline.com/node/1388

Looks like there may be a conflict between Batman and Robin when Bruce finds out that Dick revealed to Wally West his secret identity.

[graysongirl]

http://www.comicsonline.com/node/1388

Looks like there may be a conflict between Batman and Robin when Bruce finds out that Dick revealed to Wally West his secret identity.

THAT is gonna be VERY VERY FUN to watch!!! I wonder if he reveals his identity to Wally in the show, or if they knew each other prior? Hmm... interesting twist though. And Batman being Batman WILL find out... DAMN IT THEY NEED TO START THE SHOW/ SHOW THE PANEL!!!!!

Another thing i find interesting is that it's said in the first ep it'll be explained why Roy isn't on the team yet--- maybe a falling out with GA? From the talk about the clips it didn't seem like they got along much... transition to Red Arrow?

[Harlequinn]

Batman getting uber pissed at Robin? YES YES YES!I Can see Robin yelling and saying "I CANT EVEN HAVE A CHILDHOOD" now. YEEEEEEEEES

In the San Diego Comic-Con video, when Robin is riding the motorcycle. He lifts up a WHITE batarang.

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[graysongirl]

I bet he painted it white just to piss off batman :D
"robin, why isn't this batarang painted black?"
"why can't I have some tools with color?"
"cause you dress like a traffic light!"
hahaha :) or it was just because... :D

Whoa! Just watched the first look clip again and looked for details (like the white batarang lol) and realized something- I think Artemis is left handed! Her arm gaurd is on her right arm, while a right handed Red Arrow has his arm gaurd on his LEFT arm. Does it say anywhere in the comics if any Artemis canidates are left handed?!?!

EDIT: never mind, she shoots the arrow right handed :((

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[BreakAbone]

The clip hasn't been uploaded yet, but er.. let's see

The Aqualad in the show is the newer Aqualad. According to the panel, after reading over some of the stuff they were doing with the show, Geoff Johns fell in love with the character, which is why he was introduced in Brightest Day.

He does appear to be a loyal and somewhat stoic Atlantean. As he takes care of Killer Frost before answering Aquaman about being excited about the day.

[Livy1213]

Baterang looks more like the usual metal silver color they often use in cartoons. Nothing out of the ordinary looking to me.

[graysongirl]

yea, i was kinda confused bout the batarang comment too, but idk. NEED TO SEE THE FRIGGIN CLIP!!! I can picture it, but it's not the same!! plus the fact that the show starts IN A MONTH. i have a feelng we'll see the promo stuff on CN before we see this clip :_(

[BreakAbone]

yea, i was kinda confused bout the batarang comment too, but idk. NEED TO SEE THE FRIGGIN CLIP!!! I can picture it, but it's not the same!! plus the fact that the show starts IN A MONTH. i have a feelng we'll see the promo stuff on CN before we see this clip :_(

Somewhat, Nov 26th seems to be the series premiere episode, then we go 2 months without a new episode. So it isn't really a debut as much as a sneak peak.

[graysongirl]

yea, but it's still SOMETHING. At least they could put the NYCC vid on youtube to tie us over until the premiere, and then the premiere will hopefully tie us over until january :)

[Dreyfus]

I used to watch as many previews as I could find. Now I think it's better to just wait for the actual episodes to premiere.
http://www.pendragonspost.com/2010/10/10/nycc-young-justice-panel/

[graysongirl]

As logical as that is, have fun waiting. I love surprises in shows, but I'm impatient. I'm the kind that'll watch every episode getting surprised at everything, yet watch every trailer multiple times ;) have fun being patient

[Harlequinn]

http://www.pendragonspost.com/2010/10/10/nycc-young-justice-panel/ OMG THE PANEL!

EDIT: in The Panel they said Artemis joins the team last in episode 6 and she's GA's side-kick. So I assume Speedy and GA had a falling out.

[Dreyfus]

It's not the panel. What I posted was one of the many interviews that the producers gave after the panel.

[graysongirl]

Huh. Either way, sounds cool :)) I agree withthw falling out-- may be why he doesn't join YJ-- leaves to find his own identity? Returns to team as red arrow?

[Primal Slayer]

Cant wait for the cips from comiccon to start showing up! And even though having Black Canary as their trainer is very logical, I wonder why they didnt give WW the job?

[graysongirl]

Cant wait for the cips from comiccon to start showing up! And even though having Black Canary as their trainer is very logical, I wonder why they didnt give WW the job?

I'm pretty sure WW was untouchable when they were planning the show. But besides that, BC's martial arts are on par with Batman, so she can teach/help with their fighting abilities as well as the bat but without the short temper :) I think it'll be interesting to see her sparring with robin though ;)

[Primal Slayer]

She obviously wasnt off limits since she appears in the first episode.

[Dreyfus]

Black Canary is one of Weisman's favorite characters.

[Livy1213]

http://www.pendragonspost.com/2010/10/10/nycc-young-justice-panel/
Aqualad's name does not sound typing friendly.

[Dreyfus]

Isn't it Jackson Hyde? I didn't listen to the interview.

[graysongirl]

Could anyone please say what is said or talked about in the interview? I cant get to it.

[Livy1213]

Isn't it Jackson Hyde? I didn't listen to the interview.
Nope, he only has an Atlantean name in this show. His name is Kal-Duran or Calduran or Calduron or Caldraun? I'm just spelling it how it sounds.

Something just struck me. If this show is suppose to be near the beginning of the age of Superheroes where everyone is pretty new at the hero gig, then how could the Justice Society exist too? Wouldn't that make this the second age of heroes?

[Dreyfus]

http://www.ugo.com/tv/nycc-2010-young-justice

they mention the 22 ep will "deal directly with the notion of Batman putting a 13-year old Robin into a life of crime-fighting" interesting much?

The interview makes it sounds like the issue will come up in some sort of conversation and that it will be Batman simply stating his justification.



Something just struck me. If this show is suppose to be near the beginning of the age of Superheroes where everyone is pretty new at the hero gig, then how could the Justice Society exist too? Wouldn't that make this the second age of heroes?

That's one of those problems you run into with comic book continuity. Even though Superman was created first, he hasn't aged as much as the Justice Society. In the show they said that the Justice Society did exist before in the 1940s and that Jay Gerrick will be appearing as an older aged character.

[graysongirl]

The interview makes it sounds like the issue will come up in some sort of conversation and that it will be Batman simply stating his justification.

I still think that'll be pretty interesting, seeing as it's a half hour justification. Maybe that'll be the episode that explains rob's origins? That'd be cool. Or maybe there's a reason why he is suddenly justifying his choice now-- if he's explaining it to the jla or something it'd make more sense to do at the begining of the show. But maybe robin gets really badly hurt? Goes missing? I just hope he doesn't die... We all are kinda assuming he won't...

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Something just struck me. If this show is suppose to be near the beginning of the age of Superheroes where everyone is pretty new at the hero gig, then how could the Justice Society exist too? Wouldn't that make this the second age of heroes?

Yes, I believe it is the "second age of heroes."




That's one of those problems you run into with comic book continuity. Even though Superman was created first, he hasn't aged as much as the Justice Society. In the show they said that the Justice Society did exist before in the 1940s and that Jay Gerrick will be appearing as an older aged character.

I'm pretty sure that they are still going to recognize Superman as "the first" superhero, but only of the "second age of heroes."

[SKDarkDragon]

New Young Justice info is always a great way to kick off a Monday morning. :D I can't wait to the see the clip they showed at the con; it sounds great from the description!

[Livy1213]

With Speedy bailing in the first episode and Artemis showing up as Green Arrow's sidekick in the sixth, it's gotta hurt that your mentor replaces you within a matter of weeks. Though it could be that they didn't have a falling out and Speedy was the one to pick his replacement when he decided to strike out as his own hero.

[SKDarkDragon]

With Speedy bailing in the first episode and Artemis showing up as Green Arrow's sidekick in the second, it's gotta hurt that your mentor replaces you within a matter of weeks. Though it could be that they didn't have a falling out and Speedy was the one to pick his replacement when he decided to strike out as his own hero.

I kind of have a feeling it's going to be the falling-out angle, which could definitely be interesting. I'm just glad they're doing it with Speedy and Green Arrow and not with Batman and Robin. XD; I feel like there have been a lot of bad fall-outs with Batman and Robin in the various animated series (TNBA, implied in Teen Titans) and that seems to be the bulk of modern retellings of Dick/Robin stories in the comics, too. (Both Robin and Nightwing Year One titles.) Obviously given that it's Batman, I'm sure there will be some tension in their relationship, but I'm glad they seem to be taking it in a different direction.

As for Speedy, I don't know much about his character other than a bit of web-searching and Teen Titans: Year One, but I'm definitely interested to see how his character evolves!

[BreakAbone]

With Speedy bailing in the first episode and Artemis showing up as Green Arrow's sidekick in the sixth, it's gotta hurt that your mentor replaces you within a matter of weeks. Though it could be that they didn't have a falling out and Speedy was the one to pick his replacement when he decided to strike out as his own hero.

The way they made it sound.. Artemis doesn't join the team until the 6th episode or so?

[Livy1213]

Yes, but the whole twenty-something season only takes place over a six month period so the the time between the first and sixth episode can't be more than a couple months. If Speedy has been Green Arrow's sidekick for years, it's a pretty big ouch that he gets replaced so quickly.

[RoryWilliams]

Yes, but the whole twenty-something season only takes place over a six month period so the the time between the first and sixth episode can't be more than a couple months. If Speedy has been Green Arrow's sidekick for years, it's a pretty big ouch that he gets replaced so quickly.

Yeah, they toyed with that over in Robin a few years ago. Tim Drake quit, and Batman made Tim's girlfriend into the new Robin just to shame him into coming back to the role. Sort of a "You aren't nearly as important as you think you are" type of statement.

So I don't see Green Arrow being that cruel and spiteful towards Speedy, but it could be along the lines of the 2nd Speedy, where she was a teenaged girl who Ollie mentored for a long time before finally leting her become a hero.

[graysongirl]

Yeah, they toyed with that over in Robin a few years ago. Tim Drake quit, and Batman made Tim's girlfriend into the new Robin just to shame him into coming back to the role. Sort of a "You aren't nearly as important as you think you are" type of statement.

So I don't see Green Arrow being that cruel and spiteful towards Speedy, but it could be along the lines of the 2nd Speedy, where she was a teenaged girl who Ollie mentored for a long time before finally leting her become a hero.

I really hope (for Speedy's sake) that Artemis is Olivia Queen for exactly this reason. At least that way he's being replaced by his mentor's daughter instead of a complete stranger and or ex criminal. I mean, which would you rather have happen in your position:
"Speedy, since you've decided to stop working with me, i've let my daughter start training to by my new sidekick."

or: "Hey, Speedy, since you've decided to stop working with me, this girl Artemis- yea, the girl that used to be tigress, the evil one- is gonna be working with me from now on."

just a thought. :shrug:

[AdamYJ]

or: "Hey, Speedy, since you've decided to stop working with me, this girl Artemis- yea, the girl that used to be tigress, the evil one- is gonna be working with me from now on."

I figured that if it was Artemis Crock, it would be before she was evil or at least before anyone knew she was evil. Like, maybe people don't know that Sportsmaster and Huntress have a kid and she joins up. Sort of a "traitor in the fold".

[graysongirl]

I figured that if it was Artemis Crock, it would be before she was evil or at least before anyone knew she was evil. Like, maybe people don't know that Sportsmaster and Huntress have a kid and she joins up. Sort of a "traitor in the fold".

Interesting thought. I'm still not sure what to make of her, and I probably won't till I see her on the show. I mean, she could be some sweet awesome person, and miss martain could be evil. But looking back, nobody is really thinking possitive thougts for her. Personally i'm getting sick of "Artemis will be a traitor" and "I bet Artemis will die." ect ect. Only time will tell

[Dreyfus]

I think this is the same interview from a page back.
http://poptimal.com/2010/10/ny-comic-con-2010-young-justice-preview/

Here's what Comics Online said about the Justice Society.

I asked since they have made a point of saying this is a rebooted take on a world if we should expect that the Justice League is the first super team or has there been a Justice Society. I was told that the JSA did exist but they existed in the 40's and there's been a huge gap from then through now. We will see Jay Garrick but he's really really old. Most JSA figures are deceased or surely retired.

[Livy1213]

I think this is the same interview from a page back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmwWORxgn-M
Heh, I can't help but think how much those two look like skinheads in that interview. :anime: When did they both decide to shave their heads?

[graysongirl]

Heh, I can't help but think how much those two look like skinheads in that interview. :anime: When did they both decide to shave their heads?


Hahhaha they shaved their heads a while ago :D and knowing how cryptic the two are, I bet it has something to do with some plot or ep in young justice .) lolol

[Mad Hatter]

There are two things that I'm astonished no one has picked up on:

1. The shaved heads: this isn't very obvious, and, really, it's just a guess, but could that refer to Lex Luthor? As in the person whose DNA makes up half of Superboy's AKA Conner Kent's clone genome. They never answered that question, and if Superboy is in the premiere, and since he was shown in the clips, I'd say it's a good bet that the shaved heads are a reference to Superboy's past.

2. This was the real surprise. Aqualad's actual name. Cal Duran? No. I'm willing to bet it's Cal Durham. As in one of Black manta's henchmen in the comics, who later became an ally of Aquaman. Here's the kicker: he's African-American, AND has external gill implants, and I'd assume that's the source of the lines of Young Justice's Aqualad's neck. THAT's a surprise, AND another major spoiler. AND it's really weird. And now that I think about it, Aqualad's outfit does show a mix between the traditional Aqualad costume and Cal Durham's costume. This also solves the problem of having Jackson Hyde as Aqualad before Garth takes the mantle. Here's my question: can he breathe above water for long lengths of time? Because Cal Durham from the comics can't.

I can't wait for this show. At all.

[graysongirl]

I would assume so, seeing as every mini clip they've shown with him in it have been above water. Plus Garth can stay above water for a while, and he's atlantian as well.

The name though... that's either by mistake in closeness or they're just giving one more referense to black manta. Interesting tid bit though! ;)

and lex luthor? Hells yea!! He's right up there in the top three, the others being the joker and deathstroke :)

[Dreyfus]

That's an interesting idea. Aqualad definitely has gills and I remember him wearing some sort of hydration apparatus around his neck in the preview video. Must be some sort of connection.

[graysongirl]

That's an interesting idea. Aqualad definitely has gills and I remember him wearing some sort of hydration apparatus around his neck in the preview video. Must be some sort of connection.

Maybe I'm just blind, or your seeing things. I just rewatched the clip, and i did not see anything around his neck but his tattoos. Maybe you're thinking of his water weapon thingys? Cause when he isn't armed in the clips, (talking to the jla) he's on the land and there is nothing around his neck or anything.

[Dreyfus]

I could have sworn that I saw something around his neck. But yeah, I haven't re-watched the clip in a while, so maybe I'm imagining it.

EDIT: Guess I was just imagining it.

[Livy1213]

1. The shaved heads: this isn't very obvious, and, really, it's just a guess, but could that refer to Lex Luthor? As in the person whose DNA makes up half of Superboy's AKA Conner Kent's clone genome. They never answered that question, and if Superboy is in the premiere, and since he was shown in the clips, I'd say it's a good bet that the shaved heads are a reference to Superboy's past.
Somehow, I doubt the shaved heads from the two has anything do with the show. It's probably because they're both losing their hair. As a girl, I'm happy I wouldn't have to deal with that in middle-age.


2. This was the real surprise. Aqualad's actual name. Cal Duran? No. I'm willing to bet it's Cal Durham. As in one of Black manta's henchmen in the comics, who later became an ally of Aquaman. Here's the kicker: he's African-American, AND has external gill implants, and I'd assume that's the source of the lines of Young Justice's Aqualad's neck. THAT's a surprise, AND another major spoiler. AND it's really weird. And now that I think about it, Aqualad's outfit does show a mix between the traditional Aqualad costume and Cal Durham's costume. This also solves the problem of having Jackson Hyde as Aqualad before Garth takes the mantle. Here's my question: can he breathe above water for long lengths of time? Because Cal Durham from the comics can't.

That's an interesting idea. Aqualad definitely has gills and I remember him wearing some sort of hydration apparatus around his neck in the preview video. Must be some sort of connection.
Interestingly, Mad Hatter's suggestion reminds me of something Greg saying about how hardly any characters on the show were made "from whole clothe" aka. wholly original. An Aquaman and Black Manta related character with the same name as this Aqualad is no coincidence. Very very interesting.

[graysongirl]

Somehow, I doubt the shaved heads from the two has anything do with the show. It's probably because they're both losing their hair. As a girl, I'm happy I wouldn't have to deal with that in middle-age.


Interestingly, Mad Hatter's suggestion reminds me of something Greg saying about how hardly any characters on the show were made "from whole clothe" aka. wholly original. An Aquaman and Black Manta related character with the same name as this Aqualad is no coincidence. Very very interesting.

Very interesting indeed :) I'm kinda clueless when it comes to aqua/manta whatever, but with what's been pointed out... some of us are pointing fingers at Artemis as a spy/traitor, but we could be looking at the wrong person... Just cause he's the leader and seems loyal to aquaman and oblivious as to who his dad is, doesn't mean he can't become a traitor >:)

[Livy1213]

Very interesting indeed :) I'm kinda clueless when it comes to aqua/manta whatever, but with what's been pointed out... some of us are pointing fingers at Artemis as a spy/traitor, but we could be looking at the wrong person... Just cause he's the leader and seems loyal to aquaman and oblivious as to who his dad is, doesn't mean he can't become a traitor >:)
No one has said there has to be a traitor, that's just speculation about who Artemis is. It was pointed out earlier in the thread that with the exception of Robin all the others on the team in the comics have origins related to villains, so Aqualad's father being Black Manta doesn't really leave him out of place. Now despite these origins all the members are good guys in the comics but Artemis has a stack of circumstantial evidence against her that supports her possibly turning out bad since that's what she is in the comics (if this Artemis is Artemis Crock which is looking more and more likely).

[graysongirl]

No one has said there has to be a traitor, that's just speculation about who Artemis is. It was pointed out earlier in the thread that with the exception of Robin all the others on the team in the comics have origins related to villains, so Aqualad's father being Black Manta doesn't really leave him out of place. Now despite these origins all the members are good guys in the comics but Artemis has a stack of circumstantial evidence against her that supports her possibly turning out bad since that's what she is in the comics (if this Artemis is Artemis Crock which is looking more and more likely).

Yea, I know the evidence is against her so far (if she's even Artemis crock) and I know that there doesn't HAVE to be a traitor, but there always ends up BEING one.

Teen Titans: Robin (though it was that or watch his friends die) And Terra (traitor witch!!)

JLU: Hawkgirl

Also, they said they would be incorperating storylines from the comics into the show-Judas Contract's been done, but in YJ I heard at one point superboy went rouge... So did secret actually... Point being chances are good for a traitor.

Not to mention, but doesn't Artemis kinda strangely resemble Terra in a way?

[Dreyfus]

I don't think that this Aqualad could be a traitor anyway. The way I see it, the show needed some diversity, so the producers came up with this Cal Durhan character and made him the leader of the team. Having him go away would negate that plan. He'll probably have some sort of struggle with his being the son of Black Manta, but I think that he'll stay loyal. Artemis doesn't seem like a traitor to me either. She seems more like the tough, morally ambiguous hero type. You never know though.

[Livy1213]

Yea, I know the evidence is against her so far (if she's even Artemis crock) and I know that there doesn't HAVE to be a traitor, but there always ends up BEING one.

Teen Titans: Robin (though it was that or watch his friends die) And Terra (traitor witch!!)

JLU: Hawkgirl

Also, they said they would be incorperating storylines from the comics into the show-Judas Contract's been done, but in YJ I heard at one point superboy went rouge... So did secret actually... Point being chances are good for a traitor.

Not to mention, but doesn't Artemis kinda strangely resemble Terra in a way?
Those are two out of the 8 DC animated shows produced in the last two decades so I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that there is always a traitor since only 1 out of four had a traitor storyline. Characters going rogue because of external circumstances don't count since their actions aren't of their free will (the reason traitors are called traitors).

Judas Contact was adapted in the Teen Titans show so I expect them to stay far away from that for the most part to avoid comparisons and not to retread over something so recently done.

And other than the two being girls and blond they don't look anything alike to me.

EDIT: Just listened to the interview with better quality and Aqualad's name is Cal Duram. Starting at 11:50 here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmwWORxgn-M) If anyone cares...

[Yojimbo]

Cal Durham from the 70's Adventure Comics? Awesome catch, Mad Hatter! Here I was still trying to figure out how to spell out the name after listening to that Q&A. :D

[graysongirl]

Those are two out of the 8 DC animated shows in the last two decades so I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that there is always a traitor since only 1 out of four had a traitor storyline. Characters going rogue because of external circumstances don't count since their actions aren't of their free will (the reason traitors are called traitors).

Judas Contact was adapted in the Teen Titans show so I expect them to stay far away from that for the most part to avoid comparisons and not to retreat something so recently done.

And other than the two being girls and blond they don't look anything alike to me.

I don't know. Really it's anyone's guess on anything at this point. It was just a thought. Maybe my opinion is leaking into any logical thoughts I'm having, seeing as I always love when there's traitors and lies and all that crazy dramatic stuff :) and there's the fact that it's just about 1 am... Haha

And If you immagine Terra with the YJ animation and a bit older, I think they'd pass as sisters.

[Dreyfus]

I always love when there's traitors and lies and all that crazy dramatic stuff http://www.toonzone.net/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

Well that's what they said the theme of the first season is.
http://www.titanstower.com/monitor/?p=2315

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Cal Durham from the 70's Adventure Comics? Awesome catch, Mad Hatter! Here I was still trying to figure out how to spell out the name after listening to that Q&A. :D

Aqualad = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Durham ?

[graysongirl]

Well that's what they said the theme of the first season is.
http://www.titanstower.com/monitor/?p=2315

Which is exactly why this show sounds so good :) I mean, we don't know who artemis is, aqualad's dad is a supervillian, robin is telling people his identity and keeping it secret. From BATMAN. After swearing not to. Plus Superboy's clone-ness... there are more secrets here than from the whole run of the Teen Titans show! And YJ hasn't even started!! :D

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Which is exactly why this show sounds so good :) I mean, we don't know who artemis is, aqualad's dad is a supervillian, robin is telling people his identity and keeping it secret. From BATMAN. After swearing not to. Plus Superboy's clone-ness... there are more secrets here than from the whole run of the Teen Titans show! And YJ hasn't even started!! :D

Exactly! I wasn't a fan of the Teen Titans show, but I'm so thrilled about this series that I don't care if I watch anything else on television for the next three years as long as I can watch this. That's how much I expect I'll love it.

[graysongirl]

Exactly! I wasn't a fan of the Teen Titans show, but I'm so thrilled about this series that I don't care if I watch anything else on television for the next three years as long as I can watch this. That's how much I expect I'll love it.

Yes! That's how i'm thinking too! I loved teen titans, and I loved justice league, The Batman, you name it. I even enjoyed some episodes of BTBATB. Under the Red Hood was epic. But out of all of those, I think this will be better.

It's cutting the stupid anime crap from teen titans, it's gonna be more realistic than the justice league, and it's gonna have them out of costume just like The Batman. It's a perfect mix! I have a feeling that this is going to go down as one of the greatest DC shows :)

[RoryWilliams]

Exactly! I wasn't a fan of the Teen Titans show, but I'm so thrilled about this series that I don't care if I watch anything else on television for the next three years as long as I can watch this. That's how much I expect I'll love it.

Yeah, and not to knock Teen Titans, but I like it that this will be a more character driven show. I thought one of the worst things about the Titans was that there was really nothing to the characters save for broad personalities (Cyborg was the frat boy, Robin was the stick in the mud, Raven was the angry Goth, ECT). And the fact that they'll delve into their plainclothes lives also sounds interesting.

[graysongirl]

Yeah, and not to knock Teen Titans, but I like it that this will be a more character driven show. I thought one of the worst things about the Titans was that there was really nothing to the characters save for broad personalities (Cyborg was the frat boy, Robin was the stick in the mud, Raven was the angry Goth, ECT). And the fact that they'll delve into their plainclothes lives also sounds interesting.


Yea, I'll admit that was one of the flaws abou the titans. The show couldve been great, but it was good instead. I think it would have been better if they'd revealed robins identity, so they could get deeper than just the surface of at least one of them. Honestly the charecters with the most personality on the show were probably Terra and jinx- none of the main team. I love teen titans, but even the sheer fact that they're showing their home lives out of costume makes this better. Though I wonder what they'll do with the Dick/Bruce interactions. Even he calls himself Batman in his head. I wonder if they'll just show arguements between the two, or the parts of their lives that are the act. It'd be cool if they had batgirl for a bit though... :)

[Dudley]

Wow. This sounds 10 times better than Teen Titans. One thing I liked about Teen Titans though was its action. If the action here is as good as it was in Weisman's Spectacular Spider-Man, this will be quite enjoyable.

[redrobin]

5 min clip is out. OK this show is going to be so awesome i really like what I'm seeing cant wait for more.

Mod Note: Please do not reference illegally uploaded copyrighted material on these forums, please. Thank you.

[The Octopus]

Dont know if anybody posted this yet
5 min clip
Thank you Jesus or Reb Robin! lol.
Umm...I do believe its illegal to post it here though. I have a strong feeling I'm right, but I'm not totally sure. Its probably best to remove it, unless you want the mod's opinion. Which I'm sure will result in a warning/reprimand of some kind. And the removal of the video from THIS site.
But thanks for finding it though, but sorry that it's most likely an offense to post it here.

Btw, DIG Mr. Freeze's look and voice actor. And Icicle. And the show's animation. And the character designs. So cool.
Also, Yuri Lowenthal voices Icicle from what I can tell. And I think Crispin Freeman voices Speedy. Not totally sure on that though.

[Dreyfus]

The footage looks good.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=23851)

[Yojimbo]

Aqualad = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Durham ?The Earth-16 version, it seems.

Looks pretty good. Even saw Dabney Donovan, Dubbilex, and those Transilvane monsters in the Cadmus scenes.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

That clip looks SPECTACULAR (yes, even more than Spidey)! I absolutely cannot wait for this show!

Was that Robin laughing like that in the Mr.Freeze scene? I know the audio quality was poor, but it almost sounded like the Joker.

[Mebius]

The animation looks amazing! Really looking forward to this.

[Yojimbo]

So from this io9 article (http://io9.com/5662361/the-creators-of-green-lantern-and-young-justice-drop-major-spoilers-about-dcs-new-tv-shows): Speedy was active for 3 years, Kid Flash for 2, and Miss Martian none. This seemed inevitable but the article also states the villains will be making their own covert ops young supervillain (I think the writer mistakingly typed heroes instead) team to counteract Young Justice.

[Dreyfus]

Was that Robin laughing like that in the Mr.Freeze scene? I know the audio quality was poor, but it almost sounded like the Joker.

I was thinking the same thing.

[Green-Ghost]

Was that Robin laughing like that in the Mr.Freeze scene? I know the audio quality was poor, but it almost sounded like the Joker.


I was thinking the same thing.

Me too. It sounds really insane :shrug:

[RoryWilliams]

Me too. It sounds really insane :shrug:
Well, Batman's whole thing is psychologically intimidating villains (like the scenes in Batman Begins where he corners the thugs in the warehouse and runs around making loud noises just to scare them), so I guess it makes sense.

Does anyone know why the kids were fighting the Guardian? Isn't he supposed to be a member of the Justice League in the comics?

[Dreyfus]

I think this Robin will be the more light-hearted type though. The laugh was a little over the top for me.

Yeah, the Guardian is a hero, but he also worked for Cadmus during The Return of Superman storyline. It looks a little different from what happened in the comics with Superboy's origin.

[Primal Slayer]

I think Robin laughed like that on purpose. He seems very playful and doesnt mind messing with villans heads.

[Livy1213]

Aquaman sounds a little like John Stewart to me but I'm glad Aqualad doesn't sound too much like Cyborg.

Flash sounds like Josh Keaton.

[Yojimbo]

Does anyone know why the kids were fighting the Guardian? Isn't he supposed to be a member of the Justice League in the comics?The Guardian was once head of security for Cadmus. Given some superheroes and their sidekicks come snooping around after a reported explosion, I'd be a little trigger happy, too. It didn't seem like they were invited to Cadmus.

[graysongirl]

Hey, seeing as the link hass been removed, could someone PM me the site the clip's on? or tell me what to type in on google to find it? MUST SEE CLIP!!!

[Yojimbo]

Hey, seeing as the link hass been removed, could someone PM me the site the clip's on? or tell me what to type in on google to find it? MUST SEE CLIP!!!PM sent.

[graysongirl]

PM sent.

Oh my flip, you are now my new best friend :) haha thank u so much!!! So much epic in so little time!!!!!

I love the joker-esque laugh of robin!!! The animation rocks!!! The voices are totaly epic!!! Brilliance/Epicness had been born!!

[theRedDeath]

I too would appreciate a PM. I'm dying to see this show in action.

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[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I've never been much of a toy collector, but I'm already thinking about buying all the action figures. Wouldn't it be cool if they paired two characters up and sold them that way as double figure sets?

For example:

Batman and Robin
Superman and Superboy
The Flash and Kid Flash
Aquaman and Aqualad
Green Arrow and Artemis
Speedy and Red Arrow
Martian Manhunter and Miss Martian
Green Lantern Hal Jordan and Green Lantern John Stewart
Hawkman and Hawkwoman
Wonder Woman and Black Canary
Captain Marvel and Billy Batson
Zatara and Zatanna
Red Tornado and Captain Atom
Mr. Freeze and Captain Cold
Icicle and Killer Frost
etc., etc.

[Yojimbo]

Oh my flip, you are now my new best friend :) haha thank u so much!!! So much epic in so little time!!!!! You're welcome.


I too would appreciate a PM. I'm dying to see this show in action. PM sent, as well!

To me, Icicle Junior sounded like Alex Polinsky, almost similar to his voice for Chameleon Boy on Legion of Superheroes.

[KillerMoth]

Sorry to be a hassle Yojimbo, but would it be possible if you could send me a link? Would be greatly appreciated :)

[theRedDeath]

That was awesome. Thanks for the PM guys. Can't wait for the hour special in November.

But I couldn't help but notice KidFlash didn't have his little shoulder pads that he had in the first promo poster. Do you think that's a design detail that was changed once the show actually went into production? Or do you think he puts on the shoulder pads later into the series?

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[Yojimbo]

Sorry to be a hassle Yojimbo, but would it be possible if you could send me a link? Would be greatly appreciated :)No problem. PM sent.


That was awesome. Thanks for the PM guys. Can't wait for the hour special in November.

But I couldn't help but notice KidFlash didn't have his little shoulder pads that he had in the first promo poster. Do you think that's a design detail that was changed once the show actually went into production? Or do you think he puts on the shoulder pads later into the series? Welcome.

Yeah, seems like either or. The change in details could be just the difference between development material and finalized material. Or storywise, they change parts of their suits over time.

[seryass]

Sorry to be a nuisance but could you PM the link to me too please Yojimbo.

[Yojimbo]

Sorry to be a nuisance but could you PM the link to me too please Yojimbo.Ha ha, no prob, seryass. PM sent.

FYI, if anyone feels to shy to ask me for the link, you can also go to my website and hit the News page, the link is towards the bottom where Young Justice's section is. ;)

[seryass]

Ha ha, no prob, seryass. PM sent.

FYI, if anyone feels to shy to ask me for the link, you can also go to my website and hit the News page, the link is towards the bottom where Young Justice's section is. ;)

Thank you very much for the link.

I noticed the shoulder pads missing too. I would think that it's more likely a story related issue. After all the footage that was shown was very much pre Young Justice days. The team hasn't even totally banded together at that point and from what information we have been told won't be until at least episode 6.

That said I wouldn't quote me on that. I was completely wrong on Kid Flash's alter ego so...:sweat:

[Harlequinn]

I noticed that Killer Frost's emblem on her chest is the opposite of Artemis'.

[Yojimbo]

Thank you very much for the link.You're welcome.


I noticed that Killer Frost's emblem on her chest is the opposite of Artemis'.Hmm. Anyone flinch a little at seeing Robin getting electrocuted in that one brief Cadmus scene? I did like how the scenery really plays up to Donovan's mad scientst rep.

[Aaron]

Ha ha, no prob, seryass. PM sent.

FYI, if anyone feels to shy to ask me for the link, you can also go to my website and hit the News page, the link is towards the bottom where Young Justice's section is. ;)

Is it the link with the recording of the screen, or is there another video I'm missing?
If this this the one, then cool. If there's another, could you PM it to me, please?

[Mad Hatter]

Is it the link with the recording of the screen, or is there another video I'm missing?
If this this the one, then cool. If there's another, could you PM it to me, please?

I have the exact same question and request.

But in terms of the one I did see:

YES!!!

SO SWEET!!! This is it! This is Greg Weisman's greatest DC creation EVER!! I love The Batman, but SCREW THAT!!! THIS IS IT!!! I LOVE this show!!! It's too awesome for words! The designs are fantastic, the action is awesome, and, weirdly enough, I love ALL of the voice acting! Including Jesse McCartney's Robin! I thought the laugh was a great touch! It was just TOO AWESOME!!! I...I...

(brain just exploded from the sheer amount of awesomeness it has just witnessed)

And, yeah, I noticed Dubbilex and Guardian in there, which means I need to revise my list from the previous post. So...sweet.

[SKDarkDragon]

Would anyone mind sending me a PM with the link to this awesome video everyone is talking about? :crying:

EDIT: I got it, thanks guys!

[EmaHalJordan]

i want the the link for pm, please! :crying:

[RoryWilliams]

The Guardian was once head of security for Cadmus. Given some superheroes and their sidekicks come snooping around after a reported explosion, I'd be a little trigger happy, too. It didn't seem like they were invited to Cadmus.
Thanks.

And can I just say Aqualad's scene where he bashed Frost's head in was positively awesome?

[danlav05]

Video?! PM?! Yes please!!

Reading this sounds like it could well be the best DC Animated Series since BTAS!!

[SKDarkDragon]

Finally got a chance to watch it. It looks incredible! :anime: I don't think I've been this excited about any TV show in a long, long time. I loved all the voices, and everyone looked so cool! (Particularly Robin, but I'm biased, haha. I'm glad he seems to be more lighthearted, too!) We only really got to see half the team in the preview, though, so I'm curious about Arrowette, Miss Martian, and Superboy.

But anyway, awesome all the way around! Can't wait until the premiere!

[James Harvey]

Let's put an end to these repeated posts and requests for links to illegally uploaded copyrighted material and get this discussion back on-topic. This will be the only in-thread warning, with any further requests resulting in deleted posts and possible disciplinary action if necessary. Discussion of illegally uploaded material and where to find it is not allowed here on toonzone, so please take it elsewhere.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Discussion of legally uploaded material and where to find it is not allowed here on toonzone, so please take it elsewhere.

I think you mean illegally. ;)

Mod Note: Error Corrected.

[Primal Slayer]

I dont think we will be seeing Arrowette in this series since we already will have two teen archers, introducing a third would be a bit much.

And since Donna is 99% most likely to be showing up as WonderGirl as opposed to Cassie, I wonder what origin they will go with, with her. She has so many to choose from. Hoping it is just as Dianas little sister.

[SKDarkDragon]

I dont think we will be seeing Arrowette in this series since we already will have two teen archers, introducing a third would be a bit much.

And since Donna is 99% most likely to be showing up as WonderGirl as opposed to Cassie, I wonder what origin they will go with, with her. She has so many to choose from. Hoping it is just as Dianas little sister.

I meant Artemis! XD I don't know anything about either character, but I keep seeing both names on the forums, so I got them mixed up.

[redrobin]

I don't know if theory about Artemis has been stated yet but I'm starting to think she might be Arrowette's mom. Now I know they said that she not Arrowette but what if they just meant Cissie cause we are all thinking of young archers who appear in comics today but as we all know this is early dc universe and she can be a lot younger so she can fit into that. She has blonde hair, she an archer and i believe there was an interview with the actress who plays Artemis who said she has an attitude so she has that in common. Also they did say they are taking things Young Justice, Teen Titans, and Justice League. She was in the Young Justice comic book and it seem like she knew a lot superheros. She even made reference to Green Arrow. Anyway its not its impossible because they always change her origin and skills to make her fit in the show.

[graysongirl]

Interesting theory :) just trying to sort out all the theories of who Artemis is:

Bonnie King-Jones (arrowette's mom)
Olivia Queen (GA's kid)
Artemis Crock (Tigress)
Terra Markov (in my friends strange opinion on the subject)
Batgirl (another weird friend)
Spoiler (see above)

any I missed? And what do you all think?

Oh, and in regaurd to the comment on the previous page, I flinched too seeing an itty bitty robin being electrocuted- reminded me way too much of that scene in Return of the Joker *invoulenterilly shivers*

[SKDarkDragon]

Interesting theory :) just trying to sort out all the theories of who Artemis is:

Bonnie King-Jones (arrowette's mom)
Olivia Queen (GA's kid)
Artemis Crock (Tigress)
Terra Markov (in my friends strange opinion on the subject)
Batgirl (another weird friend)
Spoiler (see above)

any I missed? And what do you all think?

Oh, and in regaurd to the comment on the previous page, I flinched too seeing an itty bitty robin being electrocuted- reminded me way too much of that scene in Return of the Joker *invoulenterilly shivers*

Hm, the first two seem most likely, to me! (Though I don't know much about either character.) I doubt it would be Batgirl, since Barbara Gordon was the first and she's a red-head, and I doubt it'd be Spoiler since I don't recall any Green Arrow connection for her. I don't know anything about Artemis Crock, and this Artemis doesn't appear to have any of Terra's abilities.

And yes, the eletrocuting clip from the preview reminded me a bit of Return of the Joker, too!

[graysongirl]

Hm, the first two seem most likely, to me! (Though I don't know much about either character.) I doubt it would be Batgirl, since Barbara Gordon was the first and she's a red-head, and I doubt it'd be Spoiler since I don't recall any Green Arrow connection for her. I don't know anything about Artemis Crock, and this Artemis doesn't appear to have any of Terra's abilities.

And yes, the eletrocuting clip from the preview reminded me a bit of Return of the Joker, too!

Yea, same. I personally think Artemis will be Olivia Queen. And who knows woth the Tara Markov guess- they haven't confirmed weather or not she has powers... :)

well, hopefully ths time the robin getting electrocuted won't go insane :D lol. I wonder about that clip though- where the heck is aqualad? They show KF on the ground unconcious, but no Aquadude. Also, where the heck are the JLA? You'd think they'd realize their sidekicks were missing once they got back...

[Yojimbo]

Let's put an end to these repeated posts and requests for links to illegally uploaded copyrighted material and get this discussion back on-topic. This will be the only in-thread warning, with any further requests resulting in deleted posts and possible disciplinary action if necessary. Discussion of illegally uploaded material and where to find it is not allowed here on toonzone, so please take it elsewhere.My apologies, James.


Thanks.

And can I just say Aqualad's scene where he bashed Frost's head in was positively awesome?You're welcome.

I loved that scene, too. Really shows his quick thinking in the heat of battle.


I dont think we will be seeing Arrowette in this series since we already will have two teen archers, introducing a third would be a bit much..I thought the producers confirmed Wonder Girl and Arrowette were appearing later on in the show, too.


Also, where the heck are the JLA? You'd think they'd realize their sidekicks were missing once they got back...Seems odd that the four would beat the JL to Project Cadmus. But I suppose the four were already champing at the bit to go to Cadmus while the JL were waiting for all 16 to gather up and they were hobbled by their high profile status (chased by the news crews and fans).

[Harlequinn]

I hope WG (If, when she is on the show) is Cassie. I'm sure they could just say Donna already exists and kill her off and introduce Cassie. Not to difficult.

[Livy1213]

I hope WG (If, when she is on the show) is Cassie. I'm sure they could just say Donna already exists and kill her off and introduce Cassie. Not to difficult.
Or she could be Donna with Cassie's personality.

[Dreyfus]

Here's another roundtable from NYCC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLig-VmcGP0

[Primal Slayer]

I hope WG (If, when she is on the show) is Cassie. I'm sure they could just say Donna already exists and kill her off and introduce Cassie. Not to difficult.

I doubt they would do that. If anything they would just go Aqualad route and have her take Donnas place as WWs sidekick.

[Yojimbo]

Here's another roundtable from NYCC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLig-VmcGP0This comic might be the first subscription I make in a LONG time. So Issue #0 in January 2011 seems to be introducing their original characters before they appear in the show then the comics will add to continuity by taking place between and during episodes, from new point of views. Let's hope it isn't affected much when CN airs out of production order. :sad:

[graysongirl]

This comic might be the first subscription I make in a LONG time. So Issue #0 in January 2011 seems to be introducing their original characters before they appear in the show then the comics will add to continuity by taking place between and during episodes, from new point of views. Let's hope it isn't affected much when CN airs out of production order. :sad:

Haha same :) that should be interesting though, having spoilers just by reading the comics :) and having stories from different pov's? Epic! And CN better not air eps out of order, at least the first time the show comes on it should be in order :/ be way too confusing to be like The Batman, where they play about 10 pre batgirl/robin eps on a continuous loop, out of order.

And with the wonder-thing, they'll probably just keep one's name with the others personality, sort of like what they do to every frigging animated version of Tim drake, where they give him jason's personality. Or how on teen titans dick grayson had some of tim's personality.

[Mad Hatter]

OK. There are a few things from the NYCC clip that no one's noticed or mentioned

1. They actually show Kid Flash's deceleration, seen during the Captain Cold fight, and heard because of the screech at the end.
2. Where's Speedy on the Cadmus mission? What happened?
3. Zatara actually appears on the Cadmus mission.
4. And probably the most important thing of all, at the Cadmus mission (yeah, I know real surprise, right), they show that Aqualad has ELECTRICAL POWERS!!! I'm confused, but I still think that's awesome. Plus, whenever he uses his powers, his tattoos glow (*cough*Avatar: The Last Airbender ripoff, but in truth, I really don't care because it's still awesome*cough**cough*). But again, it's a huge surprise that Aqualad has electrical powers. And in case you think that the first time he uses them, it's because he broke the robot, he clearly shows it the second time he uses it, when he sprays water from his hands and...WAIT A MINUTE!!! He sprays water from his HANDS!!! That's AWESOME!!! OK, it's official. This Aqualad is cooler than Garth ever was. Anyway, he reaches down in the puddle of water he creates, and electricity clearly originates from his hands and arcs across the water.

And a few other things. Was that a deliberate blur effect in some parts of the video? If so, AWESOME!! The designs and voices for all of the ice-based villains, or the Ice Pack, as I choose to call them, are almost universally perfect. I say almost because I have problems with Mister Freeze's costume, but It's still awesome. Honestly, the only real problem I have is that they got rid of the red eyes. Icicle (who is definetely voiced by Alexander Polinsky, in my opinion) looks awesome. But why didn't his arm blow up when the exploding arrow hit him IN THE ARM?? Either way, he used his powers in ways I never thought of before. It was awesome. Killer Frost showed the best design for that character out of comics ever, and she looked so happy that she was freezing everyone and everything, like a pure sadist. It was awesome. I wish she and Captain Cold spoke too, but you can't win everything. And yeah, the scene where Aqualad slams her is not only epicly awesome, but very surprising, in terms of the fact that they would showing a woman getting hit like that on a cartoon. I love you, Cartoon Network. And Captain Cold...well, he was Captin Cold. Not much to say there.

And what was up with Robin being tortured at Cadmus? This...show...will...be...AWESOME!!!!!

Sweet.

[Primal Slayer]

Ya I noticed most of those. Espically the Aqualad part which doesnt make me that excitied to be honest. Just makes him to powerful. Espically when Aquaman can only talk to animals and has superstreangth.

[Dreyfus]

Aqualad has electrical powers? Did Cal Duhram have them too?

[graysongirl]

And this is why I <3 cartoons. Anything can happen. I mean, (not to sound like a nerd here, as clearly I'm one of the dummies,) but even if aquadude has these cool powers- wouldn't the combo of the electric charge and him sticking his hands in water electrocute him?!?! *flashbacks of insane-creepy scene from one of the Chucky movies* ughhhhh

[Yojimbo]

Did Cal Duhram have them too?Not from what I read. Looks like just survival underwater, talking underwater, super strength, his eyes can use dim light on ocean floor to see, his gills can separate oxygen from water allowing him to breathe, and standard merc skills were his bag of tricks in the comics.

[RoryWilliams]

Ya I noticed most of those. Espically the Aqualad part which doesnt make me that excitied to be honest. Just makes him to powerful. Espically when Aquaman can only talk to animals and has superstreangth.
I don't think it makes him too powerful.

More than anything, it seems like the creators trying to work around the fact that the Aquaman family members usually only get their chance to shine when theres a body of water around. They actually wrote Aqualad out of the original Teen Titans book because it was too hard to write situations that made him look useful.

[Ragebot]

Let's hope it isn't affected much when CN airs out of production order. :sad:

I don't even want to think of the issues raised if a Greg Weisman series were to be aired out of intended order, especially given the show will have on-screen dates.

[Livy1213]

Yeah, I'm going to guess that those onscreen dates are going to last one season, tops. I can seem them getting real tired of those after a while --not that I don't like the idea. It's just that practically when writing an episodic-like tv show you want to have some wiggle room.

[Alph]

I don't think it makes him too powerful.

More than anything, it seems like the creators trying to work around the fact that the Aquaman family members usually only get their chance to shine when theres a body of water around. They actually wrote Aqualad out of the original Teen Titans book because it was too hard to write situations that made him look useful.


This brings up something I've been wondering for a while. Ever since the JLU episode "Epilogue" aired, which showed Aquagirl manipulating water, water-bender style.


Why didn't they give Atlantians the ability to manipulate water, you know, AGES ago? Aquaman has been the butt of so many jokes for so long, you'd think the OBVIOUS solution would be to give him (and Atlantians in general) the ability to manipulate water. It's a cool power, it works on land, and it fits with his "Aqua" theme.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I seem to recall in the old Filmation Aquaman series (and I thought I seen him do it on Batman:TBATB, too), that while Aquaman was underwater, he could create these hard water balls and propel them from his hands; Wouldn't that be a form of waterbending... er, I mean, water manipulation? And shouldn't he be able to do that outside of of water as long as there was some around?

As for the new Aqualad's powers, it looks like he's manipulating water through those weapons he wears on his back. Maybe the tattoos have something to do with it, too, or their glowing could just be an effect that happens whenever he uses his power (kind of like Aang in his Avatar state).

Also, I can't help but think that Aqualad's electrical powers were somewhat inspired by Marvel's Namor the Sub-Mariner, who also has the powers of an electric eel, although seldomly uses them.

[SKDarkDragon]

Am I the only person who actually wants to see Donna Troy as Wondergirl? :sweat: I don't think she's been animated in any modern DC shows/movies, and her character seems interesting from the bit of her that I've read in various comics.

[Silverstar]

Am I the only person who actually wants to see Donna Troy as Wondergirl? :sweat: I don't think she's been animated in any modern DC shows/movies, and her character seems interesting from the bit of her that I've read in various comics.

Personally, I'll settle for any depiction of Wonder Girl--Donna, Cassie, a mix of the 2, whomever. I just like WG and will take any animated appearance of her that I can get. Her only appearance on the Teen Titans cartoon was as an Easter egg. (Though she did have a somewhat larger role in the Teen Titans GO! comic series based on the show, where she was Donna, I believe.) Since Wonder Woman is going to be depicted as part of the Justice League on Young Justice (no all-male League like on The Batman, thank goodness!), it makes sense that some version of Wonder Girl should appear on the show at some point, if not as one of the core team, then at least somewhere.



I don't think (Aqualad's new power set) makes him too powerful.

More than anything, it seems like the creators trying to work around the fact that the Aquaman family members usually only get their chance to shine when there's a body of water around. They actually wrote Aqualad out of the original Teen Titans book because it was too hard to write situations that made him look useful.

Yeah, the Aquaman family's been dogged for years by the belief that stories had to somehow involve the ocean in order to accommodate them. Aqualad was stone-cold useless in the 60's Filmation cartoons. On Hanna-Barbera's Super Friends, Aquaman seemed somewhat formidable in the first season, but eventually he began to suffer from the restrictions and regulations placed on him by TV standards at the time: he couldn't utilize his Atlantean strength because Superman was touted as the team's strong guy, plus nobody was allowed to throw a punch at anyone who could punch back, and for some reason by that time Aquaman had lost his ability to throw hard water balls, which apparently he could only do underwater anyway, so that led to the castrato version of the character whose only abilities were swimming and talking to fish, which is by and large what earned the Aquaman family the reputation of being useless weenies for years. (A skit on ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live! depicted Jimmy asking a guy playing Aquaman if he had any other powers besides breathing underwater and swimming, and the guy playing Aquaman flat-out told him "No.") So to me any power boost that an Aquaman family member can get to make them seem more capable of carrying themselves on land as well as underwater is a welcome addition.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Am I the only person who actually wants to see Donna Troy as Wondergirl? :sweat: I don't think she's been animated in any modern DC shows/movies, and her character seems interesting from the bit of her that I've read in various comics.

No, I'd much rather have Donna Troy as Wonder Girl, too, because she is the classic version of the character, like Dick is Robin and Wally is Kid Flash.

[Harlequinn]

I think that if we can't have Cassie, Donna should atleast ACT like Cassie.

[SKDarkDragon]

I think that if we can't have Cassie, Donna should atleast ACT like Cassie.

Er, why have one character just to have them act like a different character? How about Donna just be Donna? XD;

[EmaHalJordan]

i hope for Donna Troy!

[RoryWilliams]

Donna Troy is likely the one they'll use, but most likely she'll end up with a bit of Cassie's backstory and personality.

I've only ever read her origin in Teen Titans Year One, but there Donna's personality and role seemed a bit too similar to Miss Martian. The whole "Wide-eyed and naieve foreigner" angle is already covered.

[Dorko]

Why didn't they give Atlantians the ability to manipulate water, you know, AGES ago? Aquaman has been the butt of so many jokes for so long, you'd think the OBVIOUS solution would be to give him (and Atlantians in general) the ability to manipulate water. It's a cool power, it works on land, and it fits with his "Aqua" theme.
Well, actually, the comic book version of Aquaman's wife Mera can do that. She essentially has her husband's powers but with water manipulation* in place of talking to fish (giving her the more widely applicable ability if you ask me). She's from another dimension (a sort of Atlantean Phantom Zone) where a group of banished aqua-people have developed the ability to do the water bending thing. Minor spoilers ahoy - her sister is the mother of Jackson Hyde Aqua Lad, actually.

Frankly, while she has really become her husband's crime fighting partner in Brightest Day, I don't think she as a character gets nearly enough recognition. She's just as if not more bad ass than Aquaman. Start calling her Aquawoman and stick her in the JLA*. It would rock.

* During a storyline in which the big seven JLA broke up under magical influence, they all founded a Justice League with an appropriate "A" at the end (Superman lead the JL of Aliens, Wonder Woman the JL of Amazons, Batman the JL of Arkham, et al). Mera was the "Green Lantern" fill-in in her husband's Justice League of Atlantis. And now you know.

[Primal Slayer]

I like both Donna and Cassie as Wondergirl. But the only minor factor that I have for Cassie showing up is since I read the YJ comic and TT, I just want to see her and Conner develop a relationship like they do in the comics. But apart from that I wont mind Donna showing up as WG and she better join the main cast.

And I dont get why DC doesnt just expand on Aquamans ability to communicate with animals and make him the underwater version of Vixen kind of. Have him be able to tap into their abilties aswell. And they might as well give him the ability to control water to. That would give him a big advantage in battles since humans are made up of so much water he could use that against them.

But since this new Aqualad can manipulate water and conduct electricity, I hope they dont give him that much super streangth since it just seems like since he is their new original charecter, they are doing whatever they can to make him cool and powerful, and he is already the leader. Could be wrong but will have to wait and see.

[graysongirl]

I like both Donna and Cassie as Wondergirl. But the only minor factor that I have for Cassie showing up is since I read the YJ comic and TT, I just want to see her and Conner develop a relationship like they do in the comics. But apart from that I wont mind Donna showing up as WG and she better join the main cast.

And I dont get why DC doesnt just expand on Aquamans ability to communicate with animals and make him the underwater version of Vixen kind of. Have him be able to tap into their abilties aswell. And they might as well give him the ability to control water to. That would give him a big advantage in battles since humans are made up of so much water he could use that against them.

But since this new Aqualad can manipulate water and conduct electricity, I hope they dont give him that much super streangth since it just seems like since he is their new original charecter, they are doing whatever they can to make him cool and powerful, and he is already the leader. Could be wrong but will have to wait and see.

That would be cool if they at least gave him the water bending, sort of like what they did with aqualad on the teen titans show, where he basically ripped up a sink pipe and directed the water at control freak.

And about the water/electric stuff-- wouldn't that, you know, electrocute him?

[Livy1213]

We try not to think too hard about these things.

[graysongirl]

We try not to think too hard about these things.

I know, I was just wondering if it was just that atlanteans had some sort of electric resistance or something? i mean, they said the show was focusing on being realistic. well, as realistic as you can be with superpowered costumed fighting vigilantees... lol :D

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

And about the water/electric stuff-- wouldn't that, you know, electrocute him?

I would imagine that like electric eels and electric rays, he must have some sort of immunity against his own bioelectricity. I believe electric fish like eels and rays have special protective skin and fat that insulate them from the electrical current. Maybe Aqualad has rubber-like insulated skin.

[RoryWilliams]

I know, I was just wondering if it was just that atlanteans had some sort of electric resistance or something? i mean, they said the show was focusing on being realistic. well, as realistic as you can be with superpowered costumed fighting vigilantees... lol :D

Maybe he's insulated?

[Yojimbo]

Maybe he's insulated?That would be shocking. :sad: Yeah, I said it.

A minuscule update on the comics. I asked about when subscriptions would be up and the response was:


Thank you for contacting us. We will be taking subscription orders for the new series, however it does not start until January. The website should be updated shortly, but if you would like to place an advanced order, please give us a call at 1-800-887-6789.

[brickrrb2]

After watching the 5minute promo I must say I'm done fighting animation changes. I went through it with Justice League and Teen Titans pretending superboy and Tim were there, so now I'm just going to take what I get.

[Dreyfus]

You don't like the designs?
http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/tv/article/nycc-2010-producers-speak-on-young-justice-114317

[brickrrb2]

You don't like the designs?
http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/tv/article/nycc-2010-producers-speak-on-young-justice-114317

I love the designs, I'm just done hoping for everything to be Bart and Tim

[Yojimbo]

This sorta dawned on me now but don't procedural series such as Law and Order to date stamps in their episodes, too? So maybe, there's one fan out there that's used to it. I personally look forward to it, it'll make it slightly easier when I start making a timeline for my site.

[Dreyfus]

So you meant the characters. Yeah, that sort of thing can definitely be frustrating, but there's not a whole lot else we can do but watch this version. I can understand why they chose to use the older versions, but then again I don't really have any attachment to the characters.

Looking on the bright side, maybe those time stamps will give Cartoon Network a reason to air episodes in the correct order.

[graysongirl]

So you meant the characters. Yeah, that sort of thing can definitely be frustrating, but there's not a whole lot else we can do but watch this version. I can understand why they chose to use the older versions, but then again I don't really have any attachment to the characters.

Looking on the bright side, maybe those time stamps will give Cartoon Network a reason to air episodes in the correct order.

Hahhahahahha true that :D and I can deal with out of order episodes, as long as they don't do what they do now with TB- play the first 9 or so episodes on a continuous loop out of order for a couple of years till just maybe theyll play some. Newer ones. Xp

[Primal Slayer]

I dont think CN will be airing them out of order, they seem to have gotten better about that. Scooby Doo has chapters in its title so you would know if they aired that out of order.

[SKDarkDragon]

I dont think CN will be airing them out of order, they seem to have gotten better about that. Scooby Doo has chapters in its title so you would know if they aired that out of order.

Ooh, I hate when networks air things out of order. XD; Kids WB did that a lot with X-men: Evolution. I understand wanting to save the Christmas episode for, well, Christmas, but all the other out-of-orderness was just confusing. One character's hair was cut in an episode that was played out of order. So it looked like his hair was gone randomly one week, and then two weeks later we see the episode where it was cut. And playing a filler episode about them on vacation after the season finale, which was a cliffhanger, LOL.

But yeah, I think the timestamps on the episodes would be more than reason to air things in order. :)

EDIT: Just to add, I've read several news articles about the show that are claiming that it will premiere in November, but won't continue until Spring 2011. :\ I don't know if that's for sure, but the fact that I saw it on multiple articles leads me to think it might be true.

[Yojimbo]

EDIT: Just to add, I've read several news articles about the show that are claiming that it will premiere in November, but won't continue until Spring 2011. :\ I don't know if that's for sure, but the fact that I saw it on multiple articles leads me to think it might be true.Yes, that is true. They one hour pilot will air on November 26, 2010 then the season officially starts in 2011. Spring is a flexible term so it may be as early as January after New Years Day.

[brickrrb2]

I dont think CN will be airing them out of order, they seem to have gotten better about that. Scooby Doo has chapters in its title so you would know if they aired that out of order.

I remember that Fox Kids and Kids Wb never aired things in order

[Ragebot]

I remember that Fox Kids and Kids Wb never aired things in order

They didn't adhere to airing episodes in order; but from what I remember Fox Kids could be counted on doing it as general practice.

[Rick Jones]

Rewatching the available video material, with my untrained eye, It really feels like the animation is comparable to what we've been getting with the DTV stuff.

[ashleesmach1]

Know the Airdate?

[Yojimbo]

Know the Airdate?One-Hour Pilot (First Two Episodes), November 26, 2010; Timeslot: To Be Determined

Season Resumes in Early 2011.

[ashleesmach1]

:) Thanks!!!

[Yojimbo]

:) Thanks!!!Welcome. I've read around and most people just say November 2010 in their articles, so it has gotten confusing. But on the safe side, keep checking back because I think once CN issues an official press release for Young Justice, we'll know the timeslot. It'll be cool if we can watch a 1 hour Young Justice and a The Brave and The Bold episode back to back but I'll take what I get handed to me. :cool:

[Gilgamesh]

Ya I noticed most of those. Espically the Aqualad part which doesnt make me that excitied to be honest. Just makes him to powerful. Espically when Aquaman can only talk to animals and has superstreangth.

He has magic water swords, and you think he's "too powerful" in a universe full of magicians, reality warpers, and alien demigods.

If you say so.

[graysongirl]

He has magic water swords, and you think he's "too powerful" in a universe full of magicians, reality warpers, and alien demigods.

If you say so.

Heck, he's supposed to be powerful. If anyone in the DCU is too powerful, it'd be either batman or deathstroke- both of which can take down the entire JLA. And deathstroke had before :D

[Livy1213]

Heck, he's supposed to be powerful. If anyone in the DCU is too powerful, it'd be either batman or deathstroke- both of which can take down the entire JLA. And deathstroke had before :D
That's because they both have something more powerful than any super power... the writers on their side.

[graysongirl]

That's because they both have something more powerful than any super power... the writers on their side.

True that!!! :D

[Aaron]

That's because they both have something more powerful than any super power... the writers on their side.


True that!!! :D


Writer Bias... truly the strongest super power of them all.

[graysongirl]

Writer Bias... truly the strongest super power of them all.

And this is the reason why supes will get his butt handed to him time and time again, and have multiple deaths, while batman will constantly be playing invincible and only disapearing for a bit instead of dieing. :D

[RoryWilliams]

Writer Bias... truly the strongest super power of them all.
Yeah, it was painful in Teen Titans or even JLU when the writers went to extreme lengths to show off how "hardcore" Batman and Robin were.

It seemed like a lot of the time, the Titans were only there to get beaten up by some badguy Robin would then take care of by himself.

[graysongirl]

Yeah, it was painful in Teen Titans or even JLU when the writers went to extreme lengths to show off how "hardcore" Batman and Robin were.

It seemed like a lot of the time, the Titans were only there to get beaten up by some badguy Robin would then take care of by himself.

in a way they kind of HAVE to. How long do you think Batman and Robin wouldve lasted if they were (no offence) like aquaman is often portrayed? If they were always screwing up and vetting their asses kicked? People wouldve thought: "batman needs to leave the real hero work to the guys with cool powers" and "how could robin be leader? He's just some dumb kid!" they have to make them invincible, and seem inhuman. Godlike, almost. Suddenly they can't be just Bruce and Dick. They have tobe the Dark Knight and the Boy Wonder.

[Dreyfus]

It's just a reflection of what we've always seen in the comics. I think it will be interesting to see how Aqualad's character develops throughout the show since he isn't really a popular character that everyone already knows about ahead of time.

[Livy1213]

I thought Crisis on Two Earths did a pretty good job of portraying Batman in a close to realistic situation with superpowered beings. He pretty much got his ass kicked nonstop in that movie but he outsmarted them in the end every time.

[RoryWilliams]

It's just a reflection of what we've always seen in the comics. I think it will be interesting to see how Aqualad's character develops throughout the show since he isn't really a popular character that everyone already knows about ahead of time.

Well, that could pretty much be said for everyone on the team save for Robin, though Kid Flash and Aqualad had small roles in the Brave and the Bold recently.

It seems obvious that they are really intent on making the Aqua-characters look all hard to make up for the family's goofy reputation. I didn't notice until just recently, but it looks like they've even gone and given Aquaman a "cooler" costume with the green completely replaced by black.

[graysongirl]

Honestly I hadn't even heard of half these charecters before young justice. Even still the only charecter on the roster I know well is robin. And as much as I love wonderboy, I have a feeling he's becoming a token dc hero. If it's a show about teen heroes or kid heroes, who is the first one ya think of? Definately not aqualad or secret or superboy. there's Teen titans and now this with robin. In the sidekick episode of BATB there he is again. He's been in at least one episode of every single batman show. Only hero show he hasn't been on is justice league. It's starting to feel like he's obligated to a spot on every hero show Just cause he's the first sidekick. :/

[suss2it]

Honestly I hadn't even heard of half these charecters before young justice. Even still the only charecter on the roster I know well is robin. And as much as I love wonderboy, I have a feeling he's becoming a token dc hero. If it's a show about teen heroes or kid heroes, who is the first one ya think of? Definately not aqualad or secret or superboy. there's Teen titans and now this with robin. In the sidekick episode of BATB there he is again. He's been in at least one episode of every single batman show. Only hero show he hasn't been on is justice league. It's starting to feel like he's obligated to a spot on every hero show Just cause he's the first sidekick. :/

True, but to me it never felt like Robin's presence was forced on any of the shows you mentioned. He seemed to fit in all of those shows, and the only time I didn't like him was in The Brave and the Bold because I found him always angry and arrogant.

And it makes sense that Robin would show up in all of Batman's shows considering that he's his sidekick and aside from the Joker probably the most well-known supporting Batman character.

[Harlequinn]

Honestly I hadn't even heard of half these charecters before young justice. Even still the only charecter on the roster I know well is robin. And as much as I love wonderboy, I have a feeling he's becoming a token dc hero. If it's a show about teen heroes or kid heroes, who is the first one ya think of? Definately not aqualad or secret or superboy. there's Teen titans and now this with robin. In the sidekick episode of BATB there he is again. He's been in at least one episode of every single batman show. Only hero show he hasn't been on is justice league. It's starting to feel like he's obligated to a spot on every hero show Just cause he's the first sidekick. :/

......Wonderboy?

[suss2it]

......Wonderboy?

The Boy Wonder...

[Matt Hazuda]

......Wonderboy?Wonderboy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACiA1TX0tvA) :sweat:

[SKDarkDragon]

I love seeing Robin on any show, and really never felt like he was forced. (And neither Robin nor Nightwing even really appeared in any of the Justice League shows.) The only show I didn't like Robin so much was Teen Titans, just because his personality was so vastly different from the way I usually like to see Robins. TAS, TNBA, and The Batman all had great Robins, though, I didn't really care for TNBA's Nightwing portrayal. All those shows left me wanting to see more of Robin. I did feel like TT pushed Robin into the spotlight more than they should have. However, seeing as how he's my favorite character, I'm hoping that previous show won't hinder his getting a good amount of screen time in Young Justice. (Though I seriously doubt it, haha.)

As for the others, it seems like they're making Aqualad quite cool, and judging from the first outing with the three boys, Kid Flash, Robin, and Aqualad all seem to be getting equal coverage. If anything, I feel like this show might focus more on the fact that Robin (and presumably Artemis) are just humans without powers, and are therefore are somewhat more vulnerable.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I love seeing Robin on any show, and really never felt like he was forced. (And neither Robin nor Nightwing even really appeared in any of the Justice League shows.) The only show I didn't like Robin so much was Teen Titans, just because his personality was so vastly different from the way I usually like to see Robins. TAS, TNBA, and The Batman all had great Robins, though, I didn't really care for TNBA's Nightwing portrayal. All those shows left me wanting to see more of Robin. I did feel like TT pushed Robin into the spotlight more than they should have. However, seeing as how he's my favorite character, I'm hoping that previous show won't hinder his getting a good amount of screen time in Young Justice. (Though I seriously doubt it, haha.)

As for the others, it seems like they're making Aqualad quite cool, and judging from the first outing with the three boys, Kid Flash, Robin, and Aqualad all seem to be getting equal coverage. If anything, I feel like this show might focus more on the fact that Robin (and presumably Artemis) are just humans without powers, and are therefore are somewhat more vulnerable.


Although Robin's not my favorite character, I like Robin quite a bit, and I hope to some degree he is essentially depicted as the Batman of Young Justice, just not as dark.

I wasn't a fan of the animated Teen Titans series, and I really didn't care for Robin at all in Batman: The Brave and The Bold, so I hope his portrayal in Young Justice is more akin to the way he was in Batman: TAS and The Batman.

[Aaron]

in a way they kind of HAVE to. How long do you think Batman and Robin wouldve lasted if they were (no offence) like aquaman is often portrayed? If they were always screwing up and vetting their asses kicked? People wouldve thought: "batman needs to leave the real hero work to the guys with cool powers" and "how could robin be leader? He's just some dumb kid!" they have to make them invincible, and seem inhuman. Godlike, almost. Suddenly they can't be just Bruce and Dick. They have tobe the Dark Knight and the Boy Wonder.

Except, that's a LOUSY excuse to constantly play them up like that.
It's annoying. It's like fanboys/girls cry out "the reason Batman/Robin rock is because they're human. They're vulnerable." No they're not. They're invincible.
And the way Aquaman has been handled in most adaptations has been atrocious. In the comics, he's a beast. He's awesome. Hell he took Supes out in a one on one fight.
And in the adaptations they constantly play him down.

I hope to god I find a way to get my script out there and get an Aquaman movie/show made. So, I can do him justice.



I thought Crisis on Two Earths did a pretty good job of portraying Batman in a close to realistic situation with superpowered beings. He pretty much got his ass kicked nonstop in that movie but he outsmarted them in the end every time.

EXACTLY!!! That was one of the main reasons I loved that movie so much. I got so mad, because I read/heard all these comments (not really on here, but a few, mostly elsewhere) from Bat-Fans talking about how that movie dissed Bats and it sucked and they hated it.
Why?!
If Bats got into a fist fight with any of those people he'd get his ass whooped.
It's a matter of playing to their egos and weaknesses and outsmarting them.
Batman isn't Batman when he jumps 30 feet off the ground and kicks some superpowered thing in the head with no effort.
Batman is John McClane. Batman is at his best when he's busted and beaten and STILL keeps going. That's what makes him human. That's what makes him awesome.
(Good example: "Super Girl from Planet Krypton" Batman VS Darkseid. Hell Spores for the win!)

[KillerMoth]

If Bats got into a fist fight with any of those people he'd get his ass whooped.
It's a matter of playing to their egos and weaknesses and outsmarting them.
Batman isn't Batman when he jumps 30 feet off the ground and kicks some superpowered thing in the head with no effort.

Except Batman made the single most stupid move in the entire film when he decided to go to where Owlman was instead of sending the Flash or Superman to take him out in seconds. All or existence was at stake as well as Johnny Quick's life and we're to expect Batman will make such an idiot move because "He doesn't trust others"? Probably the worst handwave I've ever seen.

[suss2it]

And the way Aquaman has been handled in most adaptations has been atrocious. In the comics, he's a beast. He's awesome. Hell he took Supes out in a one on one fight.
And in the adaptations they constantly play him down.Which adaptions specifically? I don't remember much of his appearance in Superman: TAS but I don't think he was ineffective or anything like that in that episode. He was also quite the badass in Justice League what with lopping off his own hand to save his son, and going toe to toe with Wonder Woman. His appearance in the episode "Ultimatum" of Justice League Unlimited was also pretty cool what with taking down the Wonder Twins, "King of the Seas, remember?" And Aquaman in Batman: The Brave and The Bold is one of the most fun characters on that show. And he kicks ass more than he gets his ass kicked, so they don't play down his strengths there either.


I hope to god I find a way to get my script out there and get an Aquaman movie/show made. So, I can do him justice. And I hope you get Lauren Montgomery to direct :).

[James Harvey]

DC Comics has released cover artwork and details for Young Justice #0, the first issue of the upcoming comic title based on the animated series of the same name. Click here (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=875) for further details.

[Dragonpiece]

DC Comics has released cover artwork and details for Young Justice #0, the first issue of the upcoming comic title based on the animated series of the same name. Click here (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=875) for further details.

HECK YES! I can't wait to read this!

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

DC Comics has released cover artwork and details for Young Justice #0, the first issue of the upcoming comic title based on the animated series of the same name. Click here (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php/news.php?action=fullnews&id=875) for further details.

I gotta say that I'm a bit disappointed in that artwork. I understand this is an all ages book, but I was hoping the art style would reflect, at least somewhat, the look of the animated series. This is a little too cartoony for my taste. Of course, I'll at least buy the first issue to check it out.

[suss2it]

I gotta say that I'm a bit disappointed in that artwork. I understand this is an all ages book, but I was hoping the art style would reflect, at least somewhat, the look of the animated series. This is a little too cartoony for my taste. Of course, I'll at least buy the first issue to check it out.

Robin & Superboy look especially weird to me.

[Yojimbo]

Robin & Superboy look especially weird to me.A bit too much muscles and something about the hair, imo.


I gotta say that I'm a bit disappointed in that artwork. I understand this is an all ages book, but I was hoping the art style would reflect, at least somewhat, the look of the animated series. This is a little too cartoony for my taste. Of course, I'll at least buy the first issue to check it out.Yeah, I was naively hoping Phil Baroussa was going to do artwork but I still plan on subscribing to it.

[Rick Jones]

There's something about the cover art that feels almost like it's replicating Todd Nauck, imo, but it now comes off really cartoony in parts. Anyways, Mike Norton is one of my favorite current artists and I'm assuming the book will feature some cool artwork.

[Nitemayer]

tldr version: reasons this won't be a JLA clone?

Just to be clear: TTC=the comic book Titans, any and all of them; from the first book to bear the title to whatever the heck they're doing now. TTA=cartoon show starring Rob, Rae, Cy, Star and BB.

I hate TTC. I find them deplorable in so many ways. They never should have had a single comic. They started off as generic kid clones of heroes and 'developed' into a faction of combat kids that were two or three years less cool than the Justice League. They are inconsistent comics that change up the cast so often it's pointless for them to exist at all. I can hardly fathom this one reason for them to exist: to justify clone characters by showing how original they are (note: they fail to do so).
I loved TTA so much because (starting with the basics) the characters were actually teenagers, the cast was stable, the series was very "jump-on," the art was amusing and the characters were original. TTC was never anything better than a parody of what its target audience would actually want. There was no reason for them to act like they were separate from the Justice League. It's not like the JL banned members under the age of 21 or w/e. TT featured just as many extended characters as TTC did, but in a less stupid way. I always felt like TTC introduced obscure levels of drama just for drama's sake. I picked up a collection from the library recently (Changing of the Guard if it interests you) and was immediately subjected to 1) pointless development of Wonder Woman Jr's character, 2) a tirade of characters, most of whom were hardly even named, 3) bloooooooood, 4) did I mention Wonder Woman Jr, and 5) convoluted plots with convoluted backstories that I spent hours researching on Wikipedia just so I could understand what was going on. For comparison, I also picked up another collection (Animal Man iirc), mostly understood what was going on, and rather enjoyed it. Why can't the TTC do that?
TTA was not perfect. Earlier I noted that the cast was original. Robin's personality did not go unnoticed. I always noted him as a foil to Batman, happier and brighter. TTA Rob was almost a total expy of Bat. Still, their battles and enemies were remarkably different from JLA's problems while still being relevant to the comics. Also, Starfire had hair on her head instead of a giant orange cloud.

I'm looking at the promo, and from left to right all I see is Clone Arrow, Robin, Flash clone, usuriously edgey Superclone, C'lone C'lonezz and Aqualad. Please tell me the series will be deep and likable. It used to be a lot easier to find a good action show.

[Yojimbo]

Please tell me the series will be deep and likable. It used to be a lot easier to find a good action show.Yes, it will. So far as of Episode 18 of 26, there are 150+ characters appearing that are from DC Comics. If you haven't already, I totally recommend you read this thread from page one and catch up on all the news and details revealed so far as they absolve your concerns for the show.

[Alph]

I thought Crisis on Two Earths did a pretty good job of portraying Batman in a close to realistic situation with superpowered beings. He pretty much got his ass kicked nonstop in that movie but he outsmarted them in the end every time.

The only thing I didn't understand about that was how Batman was able to go one on one with Owlman, when Owlman apparently has an exo-suit that gives him strength comparable to Wonder Womans (or at least close enough that he was able to grapple with her in an earlier scene).


Also, why doesn't Batman just wear such an exo-suit? Heck, it would give the writers a stronger in-story explanation as to why Batman (and Robin) can jump 30 feet in the air and kick superpowered beings across the room.

[SKDarkDragon]

Yeah, I'm not too thrilled with the artwork on the cover. The colors look off on Robin - I thought he had green sleeves/pants? And Superboy definitely looks a bit bizarre! But I'm sure it'll be fun anyway. :) I'm definitely looking forward to it, and hoping the January 19th release date means that the show will be starting sometime in January or February.

Then again, I didn't really like the artwork in Gotham Adventures, either, so I think maybe I'm just picky. XD;

[Toddman]

tldr version: reasons this won't be a JLA clone?

Just to be clear: TTC=the comic book Titans, any and all of them; from the first book to bear the title to whatever the heck they're doing now. TTA=cartoon show starring Rob, Rae, Cy, Star and BB.

I hate TTC. I find them deplorable in so many ways. They never should have had a single comic. They started off as generic kid clones of heroes and 'developed' into a faction of combat kids that were two or three years less cool than the Justice League. They are inconsistent comics that change up the cast so often it's pointless for them to exist at all. I can hardly fathom this one reason for them to exist: to justify clone characters by showing how original they are (note: they fail to do so).
I loved TTA so much because (starting with the basics) the characters were actually teenagers, the cast was stable, the series was very "jump-on," the art was amusing and the characters were original. TTC was never anything better than a parody of what its target audience would actually want. There was no reason for them to act like they were separate from the Justice League. It's not like the JL banned members under the age of 21 or w/e. TT featured just as many extended characters as TTC did, but in a less stupid way. I always felt like TTC introduced obscure levels of drama just for drama's sake. I picked up a collection from the library recently (Changing of the Guard if it interests you) and was immediately subjected to 1) pointless development of Wonder Woman Jr's character, 2) a tirade of characters, most of whom were hardly even named, 3) bloooooooood, 4) did I mention Wonder Woman Jr, and 5) convoluted plots with convoluted backstories that I spent hours researching on Wikipedia just so I could understand what was going on. For comparison, I also picked up another collection (Animal Man iirc), mostly understood what was going on, and rather enjoyed it. Why can't the TTC do that?
TTA was not perfect. Earlier I noted that the cast was original. Robin's personality did not go unnoticed. I always noted him as a foil to Batman, happier and brighter. TTA Rob was almost a total expy of Bat. Still, their battles and enemies were remarkably different from JLA's problems while still being relevant to the comics. Also, Starfire had hair on her head instead of a giant orange cloud.

I'm looking at the promo, and from left to right all I see is Clone Arrow, Robin, Flash clone, usuriously edgey Superclone, C'lone C'lonezz and Aqualad. Please tell me the series will be deep and likable. It used to be a lot easier to find a good action show.

Some of the stories may feel slightly dated, but I'd highly recommend for you the Marv Wolfman/George Perez run of The New Teen Titans from the early 80's. It's the series that first introduced Cyborg, Raven, Starfire, et al. that ended up starring in the TT animated series. Even though the tone of the books are drastically different from the TV show, you might enjoy the original versions of those characters and many of the villains and plotlines from which the animated series borrowed.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/wolfman.jpg



One thing for sure: that book was as far away from "JLA Jr." as you can get.

Toddman

[Evo]

Honestly I hadn't even heard of half these charecters before young justice. Even still the only charecter on the roster I know well is robin. And as much as I love wonderboy, I have a feeling he's becoming a token dc hero. If it's a show about teen heroes or kid heroes, who is the first one ya think of? Definately not aqualad or secret or superboy. there's Teen titans and now this with robin. In the sidekick episode of BATB there he is again. He's been in at least one episode of every single batman show. Only hero show he hasn't been on is justice league. It's starting to feel like he's obligated to a spot on every hero show Just cause he's the first sidekick. :/

Well, he had a cameo in JLU as Nightwing.
I think Robin (like Batman) is cool because he can beat up supervillans with just gadgets, martial arts, and detective skills. He doesn't need powers.

[graysongirl]

Well, he had a cameo in JLU as Nightwing.
I think Robin (like Batman) is cool because he can beat up supervillans with just gadgets, martial arts, and detective skills. He doesn't need powers.

Oh yea! I remember that, with the whole alternate ww2 thingy and the resistance? Yea, when I saw that I got real confused till I realized that yes, it was dick and babs. Do ya think the kids that ran by were tim and steff? :)

that's why I love robin too :) he is (almost) as good a fighter as batman, plus the acrobatics, plus the leadership abilities :) like a superbat! :D lolz. But what I like the most is that he stays true to his origins and wears his circus colors proudly :D

[Dreyfus]

I wish I knew what all the ice themed villains were up to in the clip. We know that they're an important part of the story and that they're all working together for some reason. Mr. Freeze calls them "my family" while attacking the Gotham park. Meanwhile Icicle Jr. is trying to get "a little attention" on a bridge in Star City, Killer Frost has a freighter iced over in Pearl Harbor, and Captain Cold is "stealing ice" in Central City. From what I can tell they're all trying to distract the Justice League from whatever their main objective is. Anyone have any ideas as to what they could be planning? Maybe something to do with the Cadmus plot?

[suss2it]

Oh yea! I remember that, with the whole alternate ww2 thingy and the resistance? Yea, when I saw that I got real confused till I realized that yes, it was dick and babs. Do ya think the kids that ran by were tim and steff? :)He also had a cameo in "Grudge Match"

http://worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jlu/episodes/grudgematch/Pan06.jpg

He's the last one to the right.


that's why I love robin too :) he is (almost) as good a fighter as batman, plus the acrobatics, plus the leadership abilities :) like a superbat! :D lolz. But what I like the most is that he stays true to his origins and wears his circus colors proudly :DNoway Robin is almost as good a fighter as Batman. He just doesn't have enough training or experience. I'd say they're worlds apart in fighting abilities, and that goes for any Robin.

Mod Note: Image too big, reduced to link.

[Yojimbo]

I wish I knew what all the ice themed villains were up to in the clip. We know that they're an important part of the story and that they're all working together for some reason. Mr. Freeze calls them "my family" while attacking the Gotham park. Meanwhile Icicle Jr. is trying to get "a little attention" on a bridge in Star City, Killer Frost has a freighter iced over in Pearl Harbor, and Captain Cold is "stealing ice" in Central City. From what I can tell they're all trying to distract the Justice League from whatever their main objective is. Anyone have any ideas as to what they could be planning? Maybe something to do with the Cadmus plot?Aside from their powers and membership in Secret Societies and Injustice Gangs, the only real interesting coincidence that I noticed was in the comics, Killer Frost (the Louise Lincoln version) attacked Hawai'i until she was defeated by Superboy and Knockout. This was during a comic event known as Underworld Unleashed. It opens when several villains, given little explanation as to why, strike at five specific yet unimportant locations across the United States. And a villain named Neron was released and he made offers to various characters. And among those that accepted his offer for more power? Mr. Freeze, Killer Frost, and Captain Cold. :evil:

[Dreyfus]

I've heard of Underworld Unleashed. Never read it, but from what I've heard there were a lot of villains who sold their souls to Neron. I was also thinking that some form of Secret Society of Villains could be involved. Of course we won't find out until the show starts.

[Yojimbo]

I've heard of Underworld Unleashed. Never read it, but from what I've heard there were a lot of villains who sold their souls to Neron. I was also thinking that some form of Secret Society of Villains could be involved. Of course we won't find out until the show starts.True. The producers also revealed that an young covert ops team of super villains will be formed in reaction to Young Justice some time during the series. I'd think this Icicle Junior could be a part of it.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Oh yea! I remember that, with the whole alternate ww2 thingy and the resistance? Yea, when I saw that I got real confused till I realized that yes, it was dick and babs. Do ya think the kids that ran by were tim and steff? :)

According to the crew, the girl playing with Tim is Cassandra Cain.

[suss2it]

According to the crew, the girl playing with Tim is Cassandra Cain.
Plus Stephanie is a blond.

[Harlequinn]

I just noticed that on the comic cover, Artemis' Bow doesn't have a string xD

[Toddman]

According to the crew, the girl playing with Tim is Cassandra Cain.

I missed it if that was ever confirmed by anyone. Link?


Toddman

[Aaron]

Except Batman made the single most stupid move in the entire film when he decided to go to where Owlman was instead of sending the Flash or Superman to take him out in seconds. All or existence was at stake as well as Johnny Quick's life and we're to expect Batman will make such an idiot move because "He doesn't trust others"? Probably the worst handwave I've ever seen.

He doesn't trust others though.
And he went, because he's the smartest member of the team. And he's also practically inside Owlman's head.
And he'd be the only one to know how to disarm or redirect the device anyway.


Which adaptions specifically? I don't remember much of his appearance in Superman: TAS but I don't think he was ineffective or anything like that in that episode. He was also quite the badass in Justice League what with lopping off his own hand to save his son, and going toe to toe with Wonder Woman. His appearance in the episode "Ultimatum" of Justice League Unlimited was also pretty cool what with taking down the Wonder Twins, "King of the Seas, remember?" And Aquaman in Batman: The Brave and The Bold is one of the most fun characters on that show. And he kicks ass more than he gets his ass kicked, so they don't play down his strengths there either.

Mostly Challenge of the Superfriends on up, So from 1978 to 1986. Even in his own show in the 60s, while they got it good enough (especially for the 60s), it was still so goofy and campy. Also, the JL/JLU Aquaman is the Conan the Barbarian Aquaman, that while was kinda successful, isn't classic Aquaman. And B:TBaTB shows a powerful Aquaman, but he's still a hilariously goofy oaf who's mostly comic relief. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Aquaman on TBaTB, but still.... I want a serious adaptation.


And I hope you get Lauren Montgomery to direct :).

If I have my way, she totally will. If only I knew how to get involved with anyone connected to that stuff (especially Lauren).

[Yojimbo]

I missed it if that was ever confirmed by anyone. Link?

ToddmanA lot of wiki sites claim Cain appeared as an uncredited cameo in that scene. I remember it started a flame thread where one side argued it was Cain and the other argued it was Annie from "Growing Pains." b.t. might have commented on it so a look through his post history may shed some light.

But John Delaney did a rendition of Cain in the DCAU/Timmverse style for this forum some time ago: http://www.toonzone.net/comics/john-delaney/sketches/600/Batgirlz-600.jpg

[KillerMoth]

He doesn't trust others though.
And he went, because he's the smartest member of the team. And he's also practically inside Owlman's head.
And he'd be the only one to know how to disarm or redirect the device anyway.

Except Batman DOES trust others. He has trust issues yes, but the film exaggerated them to the point of complete insanity, to the point where he can't trust a fellow hero, one of his own friends, to help save the entirety of existence, I cannot stress this enough - everything that ever was and will be - from destruction. With that level of distrust, this Batman wouldn't even feel safe around Alfred and would have him promptly fired.

And again, smarts have nothing to do with it, because what he did was utterly moronic and the exact opposite of what an actually intelligent character would do. Even his status as the smartest member is arguable, since Superman is most often shown to be incredibly smart and on a par with Batman, with Wonder Woman as no slouch either. in He bargained all of reality on a silly gamble that he was "practically inside Owlman's head" when Owlman himself, a supposed equal, states "You should've sent your flying man" because it is the logical thing to do.

And the device was shown as easily disabled, with a simple off "switch", which anyone could've figured out. The device was not something only Batgod could turn off, and it certainly wasn't anything Superman couldn't have tossed into space anyway. Regardless, there were many options available, and Batman's very out-of-character choice resulted in the death of Johnny Quick, which could've been easily avoided had the Flash or Superman been sent.

[graysongirl]

Except Batman DOES trust others. He has trust issues yes, but the film exaggerated them to the point of complete insanity, to the point where he can't trust a fellow hero, one of his own friends, to help save the entirety of existence, I cannot stress this enough - everything that ever was and will be - from destruction. With that level of distrust, this Batman wouldn't even feel safe around Alfred and would have him promptly fired.

And again, smarts have nothing to do with it, because what he did was utterly moronic and the exact opposite of what an actually intelligent character would do. Even his status as the smartest member is arguable, since Superman is most often shown to be incredibly smart and on a par with Batman, with Wonder Woman as no slouch either. in He bargained all of reality on a silly gamble that he was "practically inside Owlman's head" when Owlman himself, a supposed equal, states "You should've sent your flying man" because it is the logical thing to do.

And the device was shown as easily disabled, with a simple off "switch", which anyone could've figured out. The device was not something only Batgod could turn off, and it certainly wasn't anything Superman couldn't have tossed into space anyway. Regardless, there were many options available, and Batman's very out-of-character choice resulted in the death of Johnny Quick, which could've been easily avoided had the Flash or Superman been sent.

Easily avoided? Even if the Flash or Superman was sent instead, that wouldn't have made a difference. JQ still would've been aged drastically to the point where he couldn't be a villian or hero or whatever anymore. And sending superman was not LOGICAL. Owlman is Batman's counterpart, and you said it yourself, Owlman expected Supes. But you're talking about trust issues-- if Owlman is the Bat's counterpart, you don't think he wouldn't have a big hunk of kryptonite in his pocket?

[Harlequinn]

Greg said a new character would be added halfway through. He ALSO said the reason for Zatara and not Zatanna being in YJ would be known about halfway. Zatanna being in YJ, perhaps?

[suss2it]

Greg said a new character would be added halfway through. He ALSO said the reason for Zatara and not Zatanna being in YJ would be known about halfway. Zatanna being in YJ, perhaps?
Or maybe Zatarra dies and Zatanna joins the Justice League.

[RoryWilliams]

Or maybe Zatarra dies and Zatanna joins the Justice League.

I'd hope so. Zatanna is notoriously difficult to write in an extended capacity.

[graysongirl]

I'd hope so. Zatanna is notoriously difficult to write in an extended capacity.

well, as long as she shows up it's all good :D

btw anyone know when the legal preview's gonna be uploaded? i'd like to see the good quality version... :)

[Yojimbo]

Pretty cool answer today. Mr. Weisman answered a question that perplexed a few comic book fans...


hey greg let me say im very excited for young justice i currently have one question you said the show takes place in earth 16 in the dc multiverse

i did a searched on the internet and it said that earth 16 is home to the "super sons"which is not connected to young justice. so im wondering they you know this before or did you ignored it.

Greg responds...

We asked DC for one of their unused 52 Earths, and they assigned us Earth-16. I wasn't aware at the time that pieces of it had been explored already. So we're ignoring that stuff..Link: Ask Greg Reply (http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=12615)

I suppose they then spun off their numbers thing after getting Earth-16. :cool: