"The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" Micro-Episodes Talkback (Spoilers)

[James Harvey]

Learn about The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes in this 20 micro-episode series!

http://marvel.toonzone.net/avengersemh/talkback.jpg (http://marvel.toonzone.net/avengersemh/)The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes Micro-Series
Episodes #1 - 20
Airing Between September 22nd, 2010 and October 11th, 2010
Featured on: Disney XD, DisneyXD.com/Avengers, Marvel.com, MarvelKids.com, Teletoon.com and Disney XD Mobile

Learn about Earth's Mightiest Heroes with this 20 micro-episodes introducing the team’s core members. Each five-and-half-minute episode focuses on the back story, allies and nemeses of the heroes before the Avengers were formed.

Episode #1 "Iron Man Is Born!"
Debut: September 22nd, 2010
When the villainous organization known as HYDRA attacks the United Nations, the fate of the world's leaders rests in the hands of Tony Stark, the Invincible Iron Man!

Episode #2 "The Coming of the Hulk"
Debut: September 23rd, 2010
Forever a man on the run, Bruce Banner heads to Las Vegas to track down an escapee from the super villain prison known as the Cube. But he gets more than he bargained for when a confrontation with the Absorbing Man causes him to transform into the Incredible Hulk.

Episode #3 "The Man in the Ant Hill"
Debut: September 24th, 2010
When microbiologist Hank Pym obtains a rare sample of a metal called Vibranium to study, the villainous Klaw comes to steal it...but Klaw isn't prepared to enter Hank's world: The world of Ant-Man!

Episode #4 "Hydra Lives!"
Debut: September 25th, 2010
Iron Man may have finally met his match as the villainous organization known as HYDRA unleashes the Dreadnoughts against him, mechanized war machines built from technology that Tony Stark himself created!

Episode #5 "Thor the Mighty"
Debut: September 26th, 2010
The villainous Wrecking Crew is tearing through New York City. The only thing standing in their way? The Mighty Thor!

Episode #6 "Behold, the Mandroids!"
Debut: September 27th, 2010
With backup from the world peacekeeping task force known as S.H.I.E.L.D., Iron Man faces down HYDRA. But are his allies any better than his enemies? Who can Tony Stark really trust?

Episode #7 "Hulk Versus the World"
Debut: September 28th, 2010
The battle rages as the Incredible Hulk trades blows with the Absorbing Man across the Nevada desert. Just when it seems like things can't get any worse the Hulkbusters join the fray with orders to take down the Hulk!

Episode #8 "The Siege of Asgard"
Debut: September 29th, 2010
Thor is summoned back to his home of Asgard to find the realm eternal under siege by an army of Frost Giants. Now only the might of Thor's legendary hammer Mjolnir can turn the tide!

Episode #9 "Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D."
Debut: September 30th, 2010
S.H.I.E.L.D. Director Nick Fury must fight alone when the Grim Reaper infiltrates the high tech super villain prison known as the Vault!

Episode #10 "This Monster, This Hero"
Debut: October 1st, 2010
The Hulk may be able to take on tanks, assault choppers, and heavy artillery, but what about two of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s most highly trained agents? Introducing…Hawkeye and the Black Widow!

Episode #11 "My Brother, My Enemy"
Debut: October 2nd, 2010
The assault on Asgard was thwarted, but the mastermind behind the attack has yet to join the fray. Enter Loki, Thor’s most cunning foe…and his brother.

Episode #12 "The Isle of Silence"
Debut: October 3rd, 2010
Banished to the Isle of Silence, Loki contemplates the events that lead him here. Did he truly lose the battle for Asgard, or have his sinister machinations only just begun?

Episode #13 "Enter the Whirlwind"
Debut: October 4th, 2010
When Super-Villain-for-Hire Whirlwind robs a lab at Greyburn College, it’s up to the wondrous Wasp to put an end to his crimespree days for good!

Episode #14 "Meet Captain America"
Debut: October 5th, 2010
News from the front! Witness the story of Steve Rogers, the man who would become Captain America!

Episode #15 "The Red Skull Strikes!"
Debut: October 6th, 2010
In the heat of World War II, Captain America and Bucky mount a desperate assault against a top-secret HYDRA base in Norway. But things take a turn for the worst when they come face to face with HYDRA's own Super Soldier...the nefarious Red Skull.

Episode #16 "If This Be Doomsday!"
Debut: October 7th, 2010
HYDRA's maniacal scheme to win World War II rages out of their control--and in the midst of the chaos, a chance for Captain America and Bucky to stop the Red Skull, once and for all!

Episode #17 "Welcome to Wakanda"
Debut: October 8th, 2010
Welcome to Wakanda, the most powerful nation on Earth...you're just in time to see the fall of its king, the Black Panther.

Episode #18 "Lo, There Shall Come a Conqueror"
Debut: October 9th, 2010
His name is Kang the Conqueror. He is the undisputed ruler of Earth in the 40th Century AD, and he has a problem. There is a disturbance in the time stream--his entire reality is being wiped from existence, and the entire disturbance has a single source: Captain America.

Episode #19 "Beware the Widow's Bite"
Debut: October 10th, 2010
Clint Barton--codename Hawkeye--has faced his fair share of super villains in the past, but something doesn't sit right about his last encounter with the Incredible Hulk. Why did the Hulk save his team? And what's going on behind the scenes that Clint doesn't know about?

Episode #20 "The Big House"
Debut: October 11th, 2010
The astonishing duo of Ant-Man and Wasp take you on a tour of the Big House, the world's smallest super villain prison.

Discuss This Series!

Note: Every four micro-short installments is actually a single episode of "The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes," and will be bundled as such in reruns. Below is the official order, details courtesy of Marvel Animation:

001 - 'Iron Man is Born!'
001a - 'Iron Man is Born!'
001b - 'Hydra Lives!'
001c - 'Behold, the Mandroids!'
001d - 'Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD'

002 - 'Thor the Mighty'
002a - 'Thor the Mighty'
002b - 'The Siege of Asgard'
002c - 'My Brother, My Enemy'
002d - 'The Isle of Silence'

003 - 'Hulk Versus the World'
003a - 'The Coming of the Hulk'
003b - 'Hulk Versus the World'
003c - 'This Monster, This Hero'
003d - 'Beware the Widow's Bite!'

004 - 'Meet Captain America'
004a - 'Meet Captain America'
004b - 'The Red Skull Strikes!'
004c - 'If This Be Doomsday!'
004d - 'Lo, There Shall Come a Conqueror'

005 - 'The Man in the Ant Hill'
005a - 'The Man in the Ant Hill'
005b - 'Enter the Whirlwind'
005c - 'The Big House'
005d - 'Welcome to Wakanda'

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

As a huge Iron Man fan, I wasn't thrilled with the voice acting for Tony, however watching the microsode helped a lot. There is some instances where he does sound like Downey Jr, which I liked a lot.

I think this series is going to rock our socks off!!



edit:
I forgot to mention that as a Canadian, I was very surprised that the video played on the Disney XD website. I'm glad there are no restrictions.

[Rick Jones]

edit:
I forgot to mention that as a Canadian, I was very surprised that the video played on the Disney XD website. I'm glad there are no restrictions.
Don't give them any ideas.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Don't give them any ideas.

lol, yeah I was hoping I didn't jinx it! :D


I realize you combined some posts into a talkback thread. Great!

I really loved the animation. I know a lot of people haven't been too impressed by it but it worked for me. IIRC Man of Action produces the series, and I have been a fan of them since the original Ben10. Ben10 had some impressive action scenes, and I look forward to seeing some good fights! Also there were little details, like Pepper blowing her hair for example, that show they are not willing to skimp. I was also impressed with the HUD scene inside Tony's helmet. It looked great and worked really well.

Last but not least, I loved the designs for the HYDRA soldiers.

[suss2it]

lol, yeah I was hoping I didn't jinx it! :DShouldn't really matter since Teletoon is also putting the micro-episodes on their website.




I really loved the animation. I know a lot of people haven't been too impressed by it but it worked for me. IIRC Man of Action produces the series, and I have been a fan of them since the original Ben10. Ben10 had some impressive action scenes, and I look forward to seeing some good fights! Also there were little details, like Pepper blowing her hair for example, that show they are not willing to skimp. I was also impressed with the HUD scene inside Tony's helmet. It looked great and worked really well..Josh Fine is the supervising producer and Christopher Yost is the story editor, and neither is part of Man of Action so I don't think they're involved in this show.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Maybe not producing I guess, but working on scenes.

According to the MoA website:


MAN OF ACTION just completed work developing and writing a sequence of episodes for the upcoming Marvel/Disney XD series Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes series. The episodes feature the classic characters in a cool modern mixhttp://www.manofaction.tv/

[suss2it]

Maybe not producing I guess, but working on scenes.

According to the MoA website:

http://www.manofaction.tv/

Good to know they're involved, Generator Rex is one my current favourite cartoons and I haven't watched Alien Force yet but I didn't hear any complaints about the action.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

As a huge Iron Man fan, I wasn't thrilled with the voice acting for Tony, however watching the microsode helped a lot. There is some instances where he does sound like Downey Jr, which I liked a lot.

I think this series is going to rock our socks off!!



Not bad.

So far the animation doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would. Although, I thought each of these micro-episodes were going to be stand alone origin stories, but from that cliffhanger ending, it seems like they're just short chapters in a bigger story. I'll definitely be watching more of this series.

It does appear that they are trying to keep Iron Man's voice in line with the movies. I'm still not sure that I really prefer that, though. It does sometimes sound like Robert Downey Jr., but often it reminded me more of Kevin Smith.

[AlgeaX]

I must admit I've been rather skeptical of this series. While I'm a huge Avengers fanboy, I'm also one one of those really anal-retentive fanboys who thinks he knows the characters better then the guys writing them.

But so far this is looking good. They're obviously taking their interpretation of Iron Man straight from Robert Downey Jr. That's the kind of thing that sounds great on paper but is really easy to screw up in practice, but they seem to be making it work here. Eric Loomis does a great job as Tony, I honestly think if you played his lines next to Downey's most people wouldn't be able to tell. If the rest of the cast gets this level of care, we may have a hit on our hands.

The animation seems really good, even in the vid I streamed off of DisneyXD.Com. The hand cam stuff at the beginning was done well, just shaky enough to get the idea across but not enough to be distracting or hard to follow. There's a lot of live-action that doesn't use it as well.
I don't really have much to say about the plot since we haven't really seen much of it yet, and this is really more of a showcase for the individual characters then anything else.

[Rick Jones]

It's nice to get a glimpse into what's going on in the show's universe but I was really expecting these shorts to elaborate more the origins of the various heroes and villains for the benefit of the uninitiated. Especially when you have titles like Iron Man Is Born !, origin stories come to mind but I guess that's not the case. This felt a lot more like part of a larger episode to me, which kind of makes me wonder if they'd piece them together like that for the dvd releases. It also looks some of the stufft that went into the trailer is from this short. Well, I can't wait to see the next one.

[Burgundy Ranger]

The title of this micro-ep -- and summary on my on-screen cable guide -- is very misleading. The summary says this was going to be an episode about IM's origins.

In fact, the press release for the 20-episode micro-series said it was intended to introduce the viewers to the main characters and give us a peek into how they got to be who they are.

But "Iron Man is Born" seems like it could be simply an continuation of where the first movie left off. (That's because this animated Rhodey looks more like Terrance Howard than Don Cheadle)

But the voicing to include that Downey-esque delivery was interesting.

[Spideyzilla]

Tony and Pepper sound IDENTICAL to Downey Jr. and Paltrow. Jarvis seems to no longer be a human in anything. The whole being looked like a direct reference to Cloverfield. Overall, pretty cool.

[Wonderwall]

Tony and Pepper sound IDENTICAL to Downey Jr. and Paltrow. Jarvis seems to no longer be a human in anything. The whole being looked like a direct reference to Cloverfield. Overall, pretty cool.

Really too me it sounds like someone doing a really bad RDJ impression. It's really off putting to me.

[HEATXZ]

Great short :anime:
I like Ironman's new voice actor :anime:
I can't wait for more

[TheVileOne]

The title of this micro-ep -- and summary on my on-screen cable guide -- is very misleading. The summary says this was going to be an episode about IM's origins.

In fact, the press release for the 20-episode micro-series said it was intended to introduce the viewers to the main characters and give us a peek into how they got to be who they are.

Well the short did introduce us to Iron Man and who he is and what he does. The impression I see is that this was Iron Man's first appearance to the public at large.



But "Iron Man is Born" seems like it could be simply an continuation of where the first movie left off. (That's because this animated Rhodey looks more like Terrance Howard than Don Cheadle).

There's definitely movie aspects worked in there, but a lot of what's in the movies simply already has basis in the comics as well.


Tony and Pepper sound IDENTICAL to Downey Jr. and Paltrow. Jarvis seems to no longer be a human in anything. The whole being looked like a direct reference to Cloverfield. Overall, pretty cool.


JARVIS is not a human here, but Tony Stark has had AI computer program helpers in the comics AND animation before. It's simply been simplified where Jarvis the butler has become JARVIS THE AI COMPUTER PROGRAM.

Also Jarvis the butler did make an appearance in Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2.

The caught on hand held thing is definitely reminiscent of Cloverfield. However, Cloverfield did not invent or pioneer that style. In addition, the monster looked like ULTIMO to me. It definitely wasn't an organic monster. It looked like Ultimo.

[Venom Melendez]

I liked it and i loved Starks voice, it works fine.

I'm really looking forward to the Hulk microsode.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

The caught on hand held thing is definitely reminiscent of Cloverfield. However, Cloverfield did not invent or pioneer that style. In addition, the monster looked like ULTIMO to me. It definitely wasn't an organic monster. It looked like Ultimo.

Ultimo was my first thought as well.

[Venom Melendez]

Ultimo was my first thought as well.



Maybe we'll see Mandarin down the line.

[Spideyzilla]

The caught on hand held thing is definitely reminiscent of Cloverfield. However, Cloverfield did not invent or pioneer that style. In addition, the monster looked like ULTIMO to me. It definitely wasn't an organic monster. It looked like Ultimo.

What I meant was mainly the explosion with stuff flying around. It just reminded me of the original Cloverfield trailer.

[Rick Jones]

What I meant was mainly the explosion with stuff flying around. It just reminded me of the original Cloverfield trailer.
Especially when the head (or what I thought was the head) was flying towards them right before Tony catches it.

There's something about the news story being called iron Man vs Big Robot (or whatever) that was funny to me. At least they didn't try coming up with their own name for it, JJJ style.

[the greenman]

Now this is what I'm talking about. One of the best looking Marvel toons I've seen. Can't wait for this.

Sure glad Marvel doesn't have that embargo business.

[jph139]

Not bad, not bad at all. Solid action, for the most part, and some VERY good dialogue. A nice Tony - REALLY cocky, but not annoyingly so. Fun to watch. Particularly nice interplay with Rhodie in the card. Voice acting was a bit off, but the rest made up for it.

Cool seeing HYDRA, too; they're passed over for other villain groups pretty often.

[Gokou Ruri]

Tony's voice sounds nasally, like he has a permanent cold or something. I almost want to say it sounds like Garfield's voice from the Garfield Show.

[Azrayel]

Not bad at all. The animation was solid, but my only problem is Iron Man's voice. I think it needed to be a tad deep. Other then that the characters voices are pretty good.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Maybe not producing I guess, but working on scenes.

According to the MoA website:

http://www.manofaction.tv/

Well MoA seem to be getting plenty of work lately. Generator Rex and Avengers now and Ultimate Spider-Man in the years to come. Good for them.

I thought the short was alright. I kind of like Tony's voice and kind of don't. Sure beat's Tom Kenny on Super Hero Squad though (Kenny's Cap is hilarious though).

Very modeled after the movie and that I suppose is to be expected. I really hate Iron Man's design in this series though. Everyone else looks pretty awesome but old bucket head just looks awful.

Guess I'll check out the other shorts as they are uploaded.

[Webbed-Wonder]

Loved that, definitely looking forward to the rest of these micro-episodes and the series much more now.

[Kaveh77]

Iron-Man Armored Adventures would of been 100 times better if it was this.

[redlion]

Wow, I really enjoyed this micro-episode. Plenty of action and I loved the dialogue. They're definately going for the RDJ vibe. I actually liked the way Tony's voice sounded. My favorite line: "ATTENTION HYDRA GOONS....You've been trying to take over the world for.....60yrs? It's not happening!!!" Loved that. Looking forward to the rest of the micro and full episodes.

[dmxx116]

[QUOTE=Andrew T. Hingson;3697804]
I thought the short was alright. I kind of like Tony's voice and kind of don't. Sure beat's Tom Kenny on Super Hero Squad though (Kenny's Cap is hilarious though).


QUOTE]But not Robert Hays who voice Iron Man back in the 90's

[Venom Melendez]

Now this is what I'm talking about. One of the best looking Marvel toons I've seen. Can't wait for this.

Sure glad Marvel doesn't have that embargo business.


It's made by their studio, so there wouldn't be an embargo.

[Wonderwall]

Tony's voice sounds nasally, like he has a permanent cold or something.

That's actually what I thought when I heard him. It's like he's doing an impression while someone is holding his nose. It's weird, I think it's the same guy who did the voice in the awful Iron Man 2 video game. He does sound better when he's got the armour on as the distortion on his voice makes him sound different.

[Aaron]

I liked it ... mostly.
Good action, nice designs, good art and all that.

I liked all the voices, EXCEPT Tony's. It's like he's got 2 actors playing him.
One minute he sounds higher pitched, almost Christian Slater-ish, then the next he sounds like he's doing a fairly decent RDJ impression.
I'd be fine with either voice, but it flip-flops, and it's distracting.

All in all, I enjoyed it though. Can't wait to see the Hulk-Buster they mentioned.


But not Robert Hays who voice Iron Man back in the 90's

Robert Hays was good from what I remember, even if that show only had ONE good season (I do mean season 2).
I seem to remember liking David Kaye as Iron Man in the recent Fantastic Four series.

I really liked Marc Worden and Tom Kane in Avengers/2, The Invincible Iron-Man (even though I didn't like the movie), and Next Avengers.

Eric Loomis has some big shoes to fill. Let's hope he gets it right.

[suss2it]

Iron-Man Armored Adventures would of been 100 times better if it was this.

No it wouldn't. Armored Adventures is a really good show in it's own right and it and Earth's Mightiest Heroes are going in totally different directions to really compare.

[W.C.Reaf]

No it wouldn't. Armored Adventures is a really good show in it's own right and it and Earth's Mightiest Heroes are going in totally different directions to really compare.

That's true, though I would love to see an IM cartoon like this micro episode.

[dmxx116]

You can watch "The Coming of the Hulk" is online right now:

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14081header_banner5266874.jpg

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6veYQWkRyM

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Awesome! Love the Absorbing Man, and love Fred Tatasciore's Hulk voice.

[Rick Jones]

Anyone know when these will be on Itunes ?

[Spider-Friends]

I liked all the voices, EXCEPT Tony's. It's like he's got 2 actors playing him. One minute he sounds higher pitched, almost Christian Slater-ish, then the next he sounds like he's doing a fairly decent RDJ impression.
I'd be fine with either voice, but it flip-flops, and it's distracting.


That's how I felt too.

I liked both clips for the most part. I really love the designs of the characters. The animation is a bit disappointing though. As long as the micro-episodes keep this quality, I'll be in for the series.

I was hoping for these to be origins though. I thought making them micro-episodes instead of laboriously incorporating origins into the show was a good idea. Oh well!

[macattack]

You can watch "The Coming of the Hulk" is online right now:

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6veYQWkRyM

I was absolutely stunned when I saw the "showgirls" billboard.

I like this micro more than the Iron Man one. This one is more atmospheric, and filled with intensity even though there's hardly any fighting.

I don't think these micros will explain the origins of the characters but I think the purpose of the micros, the more I think about it, is meant to gradually bring the main characters together for when episode 1 starts,

[suss2it]

I was absolutely stunned when I saw the "showgirls" billboard.

I like this micro more than the Iron Man one. This one is more atmospheric, and filled with intensity even though there's hardly any fighting.

I don't think these micros will explain the origins of the characters but I think the purpose of the micros, the more I think about it, is meant to gradually bring the main characters together for when episode 1 starts,
Spoiler on why the team gets together.
They get brought together because of a mass villain outbreak and Graviton is destroying New York City

[GWOtaku]

Stark's attitude and demeanor were perfect. Glad I'm not the only one who found him reminiscent of Robert Downy Jr.'s performance.

I'm guessing Cap's short will cover his classic WWII backstory. Looking forward to it.

[dmxx116]

Anyone know when these will be on Itunes ?

Tuesday, October 5
Select micro-episodes will be made available as a free preview on iTunes.

http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=572

[HEATXZ]

The Hulk mirco was great :anime:
I like the Hulk transformation and cameos of other Hulk villains :anime:

[BigEclipse]

I'm kind of glad they used the RDJ movie version of Tony Stark because the comic book version is a dick.

[spyke]

Really too me it sounds like someone doing a really bad RDJ impression. It's really off putting to me.

A friend of mine said he sounded like Jack Black.

[Venom Melendez]

The Hulk mirco was great :anime:
I like the Hulk transformation and cameos of other Hulk villains :anime:

Yeah, i freaking love Hulk and it was great to see Creel, Leader and Abomination.

Also good to see General Ross, i wonder how he reacts when Hulk joins the Avengers.


I'm kind of glad they used the RDJ movie version of Tony Stark because the comic book version is a dick.

Both versiones are like that. Besides, it's a combination of the two.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

A friend of mine said he sounded like Jack Black.


That's funny, because I thought he sounded a bit like Kevin Smith, and I would say that Jack Black is probably the stage of witty evolution between Robert Downey Jr. and Kevin Smith. ;)

[Webbed-Wonder]

I loved the Hulk micro-episode, great stuff.

[macattack]

Spoiler on why the team gets together.
They get brought together because of a mass villain outbreak and Graviton is destroying New York City

I had a feeling it was something like that.

Also, is it just me, or is Fred Tatasciore voicing both Bruce and Hulk?

[Gold Guy]

These are good for just five minutes. I can't wait for the full-length series.

[Aaron]

You can watch "The Coming of the Hulk" is online right now:

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6veYQWkRyM

SWEET!!!
Loved Absorbing Man.

Liked the quick shots of The Leader and Abomination too.

And I'm definately liking Bruce's voice (who's doing his voice?)
(Fred knocks it out of the park as Hulk as always).

I love the look for the Hulk. It reminds me of the way he looked in the old 80s cartoon. Which is great.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

The Man in the Ant Hill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFiqQD-uKow

[redlion]

Definately loved the Hulk micro-episode. So far, this is turning out very good. Very much liking this version of Gen. Ross.

Man, just watched the antman episode. Good, good stuff. IF the full eps are as good as these micro-eps, which I'm sure they are, Marvel has a bonafide hit on their hands. This is the best version of Hank Pym, imo, that I've seen.

[Aaron]

The Man in the Ant Hill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFiqQD-uKow

That was awesome actually! That's only the second time I've ever thought Hank Pym was cool. Looks like this show's gonna do a lot for my opinion of him.

Also, two points that I really liked.

Klaw.. That was Mark Hamill right? SWEET!

And his henchman looked like Billy (Sonny Landham) from Predator.

[spyke]

Definately loved the Hulk micro-episode. So far, this is turning out very good. Very much liking this version of Gen. Ross.

Man, just watched the antman episode. Good, good stuff. IF the full eps are as good as these micro-eps, which I'm sure they are, Marvel has a bonafide hit on their hands. This is the best version of Hank Pym, imo, that I've seen.

I agree with everything you said.

OMT, am I the only one who thinks that each mini episode is better then the previous one?

[Azeke]

And his henchman looked like Billy (Sonny Landham) from Predator.
They also had the guy modeled after Dutch himself, and the other one after Jesse Ventura's character.

[joltman]

So it looks like these so-called 'micro-episodes' are just five episodes that were cut down to four chunks each. Over at the October 2010 animated premiere info for XD (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=273138) thread, it shows five episodes airing on Oct 24

101 Iron Man Is Born
102 Thor the Mighty
103 Hulk Versus the World
104 Meet Captain America
105 The Man in the Ant Hill

And then the series premiere, Breakout Part 1, is actually 106. So it looks to me like we are seeing the first five episodes of the season broken up into 20 pieces, rather than seeing 20 micro-episodes outside of the season.

[HEATXZ]

The Antman micro was great :anime:
It had great action and humor XD

[Rick Jones]

I agree with everything you said.

OMT, am I the only one who thinks that each mini episode is better then the previous one?

Personally, the Hulk micro ep is still my favorite right now, if only for the way they were able to establish atmosphere and depict Bruce's struggle. I really like how Ant Man is being shown as likable, a guy that's really sure of himself, and can handle himself in fights even before the change to Giant Man. There's nothing of the Ultimate jerky version here.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

They actually made Ant Man cool! He's not like the usual unlikable jerk Hank Pym. I actually like this micro the best so far.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Yeah these just keep getting better and better.

[spyke]

Personally, the Hulk micro ep is still my favorite right now, if only for the way they were able to establish atmosphere and depict Bruce's struggle. I really like how Ant Man is being shown as likable, a guy that's really sure of himself, and can handle himself in fights even before the change to Giant Man. There's nothing of the Ultimate jerky version here.


They actually made Ant Man cool! He's not like the usual unlikable jerk Hank Pym. I actually like this micro the best so far.

If you guys want to see a non jerky/non psycho confidant heroic version of Hank Pym, I highly recommend that you guys read issue #3 of THOR:THE MIGHTY AVENGER.

[suss2it]

How long are these micro-episodes suppose to be? Because on Teletoon's website there's 4 5 minute parts of "Iron Man is Born".

[Rick Jones]

How long are these micro-episodes suppose to be? Because on Teletoon's website there's 4 5 minute parts of "Iron Man is Born".
So far they've been between 5 1/2 to 6 minutes.

[suss2it]

So far they've been between 5 1/2 to 6 minutes.And they're multiple parts to one episode as well?

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Teletoon has them listed as Iron Man is Born Part 1, 2 etc, however they are actually Iron Man is Born, Hydra Lives, Bohold: The Mandroids, and Nick Fury, Agent of Shield.

These are 4 seperate Micro Episodes, however they all continue the same storyline found in Iron Man is Born. Looks like it was basically a full episode chopped up.

You can watch them here:

http://www.teletoon.com/teletoon3/teletoon.php?language=En&func=php|templates/video.php|0&xVar=0 (http://www.teletoon.com/teletoon3/teletoon.php?language=En&func=php%7Ctemplates/video.php%7C0&xVar=0)

Click Avengers: Full Episodes

[Rick Jones]

And they're multiple parts to one episode as well?
No, what we've been getting so far have been one chapter micro episodes.

[suss2it]

Teletoon has them listed as Iron Man is Born Part 1, 2 etc, however they are actually Iron Man is Born, Hydra Lives, Bohold: The Mandroids, and Nick Fury, Agent of Shield.

These are 4 seperate Micro Episodes, however they all continue the same storyline found in Iron Man is Born. Looks like it was basically a full episode chopped up.

You can watch them here:

http://www.teletoon.com/teletoon3/teletoon.php?language=En&func=php|templates/video.php|0&xVar=0 (http://www.teletoon.com/teletoon3/teletoon.php?language=En&func=php%7Ctemplates/video.php%7C0&xVar=0)

Click Avengers: Full EpisodesThanks, are we getting the other micro-episodes late? Because the Hulk one was on Marvel.com and yet it's not on Teletoon.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

They must be showing them in a different order on Tletoon because, for example, the Hydra Lives episode should be on the Disney site tomorrow.

[swarlock]

This show has potential. For those that want to cry fowl or nitpick aren't really being smart fans.

Just because you are a fan doesn't necessarily mean you can get your way throwing a hissy fit or tell the producers, voice actors, etc how to do their job.

Just my two cents.

[suss2it]

They must be showing them in a different order on Tletoon because, for example, the Hydra Lives episode should be on the Disney site tomorrow.That's weird, I wish they would be more coordinated when they planned this out, but I'm just glad we're getting stuff the same time as USA.


This show has potential. For those that want to cry fowl or nitpick aren't really being smart fans.

Just because you are a fan doesn't necessarily mean you can get your way throwing a hissy fit or tell the producers, voice actors, etc how to do their job.

Just my two cents.I think if people have a negative opinion or constructive criticism they should be allowed to voice it.

[AlgeaX]

I think if people have a negative opinion or constructive criticism they should be allowed to voice it.

You know, I was really skeptical about this show at first but these micro-eps are really starting to win me over, The Man in the Anthill is easily my favourite so far. I can feel my nerd rage being slowly eroded.

[Venom Melendez]

That's weird, I wish they would be more coordinated when they planned this out, but I'm just glad we're getting stuff the same time as USA.

I think if people have a negative opinion or constructive criticism they should be allowed to voice it.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and fan wank however. Not all criticism is constructive.



On another note, who's the one voicing Klaw in the Ant-Man video?

[Rick Jones]

There's a difference between constructive criticism and fan wank however. Not all criticism is constructive.



On another note, who's the one voicing Klaw in the Ant-Man video?
Sounds like Mark Hamill.

[Venom Melendez]

Sounds like Mark Hamill.

Yeah, that's what i'm thinking too.

[suss2it]

You know, I was really skeptical about this show at first but these micro-eps are really starting to win me over, The Man in the Anthill is easily my favourite so far. I can feel my nerd rage being slowly eroded.
I've already seen the the first 2 episodes and I myself don't really have anything negative to say about the show, aside from Iron Man's ugly design.


There's a difference between constructive criticism and fan wank however. Not all criticism is constructive.



On another note, who's the one voicing Klaw in the Ant-Man video?

I never said all criticism is constructive.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Sounds like Mark Hamill.

From Christopher Yost's twitter yesterday


Tomorrow's Avengers micro-ep is 'The Man in the Ant Hill.' SPOILER!!! The 'man' is Ant-Man. Also, Mark Hamill does a voice this episode.




You know, I was really skeptical about this show at first but these micro-eps are really starting to win me over, The Man in the Anthill is easily my favourite so far. I can feel my nerd rage being slowly eroded.

It has been really nice to see this reaction across the board. Coming into it, there was quite a bit of negativity towards this show, but a lot of minds are bing changed, which it awesome!! :)

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

You know, I was really skeptical about this show at first but these micro-eps are really starting to win me over, The Man in the Anthill is easily my favourite so far. I can feel my nerd rage being slowly eroded.


It's still too early to tell, but I feel the same way actually.

[TheVileOne]

What is all the negativity and nerd rage over?

I understand exasperation and frustration with the loss of Spectacular and Wolverine and The X-me, but this show has been in development since I think 2007 or 2008.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I don't even recall reading any negativity. Just minor nit-picks, like Iron Man's voice or face, but not any actual criticisms.

Thank god they are publishing both the short and full-length episodes online. I can't get Disney XD here in college, so this takes care of it.

P.S. YAY!!!! 1,000th post!!!

[animatedsuperheroes]

I'm loving these shorts so far! This is the first time that Ant-Man has been really cool in animation (no FF:WGH, slapping a soul patch on him doesn't make him "cool")!

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

What is all the negativity and nerd rage over?

I understand exasperation and frustration with the loss of Spectacular and Wolverine and The X-me, but this show has been in development since I think 2007 or 2008.


I know it's not fair to compare, but being of the school of thought that DC animation is better, if only because they've had more of a head start with Warner Bros. and advanced a lot further than Marvel has, it still seems like the designs and the animation on The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes look like a step backwards. I just feel that it isn't as nice to look at as some of Marvel's other achievements like X-Men: Evolution, The Spectacular Spider-Man, Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes, or Wolverine and The X-Men. Again, if I had to compare, it's a little bit more along the lines of what Justice League was, which obviously isn't bad at all to me, but that was a few years ago and since then animation as a medium has improved greatly, especially if you look at what we will be getting with the Young Justice series.

Also, with that awful "Avengers Assemble" theme song that was in the preview, I suppose I feared that this would only be a little more mature than Marvel Super Hero Squad (which I hate), but still be too kiddified for my taste. I wouldn't expect it or want it to alienate kids, but I would hope that, like all the best animated superhero shows, it would be sophisticated enough for adults to enjoy, too. I guess that still remains to be seen with whatever storylines we get, but so far it looks to be better than I originally thought.

[Venom Melendez]

I know it's not fair to compare, but being of the school of thought that DC animation is better, if only because they've had more of a head start with Warner Bros. and advanced a lot further than Marvel has, it still seems like the designs and the animation on The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes look like a step backwards..


I disagree, especially after seeing it in motion. It's pretty fluid and it works well.

The theme song isn't bad either amd it's cheesy good.

[The Octopus]

I disagree, especially after seeing it in motion. It's pretty fluid and it works well.

The theme song isn't bad either amd it's cheesy good.

Here's my two cents on the show so far.
-Animation is crappy, I wish they would have at least brought back the studio that animated WatX or Moi or JM Animation, but no Marvel sucks like that. The designs also are somewhat lame, I wish Joaquim Dos Santos or Lauren Montgomery or Steven E Gordon would have done the designs, I love their styles.
-The action isnt bad, but they need better directors/storyboard designers for that. Which Marvel doesnt have either.
-The cast is unfortunately uninspired, I hate Iron Man, Bruce Banner, and Wasp's voices. I've got nothing against the actors, but they're not good choices for the roles. Iron Man sounds like a mediocre impression of Robert Doweny Jr, Bruce has a really deep voice that sounds weird, and Wasp has a rather young voice. Marvel needs an Andrea Romano for this show.
-As for the story, Marvel is always good with character development and originality. I loved WatX, because it had a particular epic/satifisfying story that wasnt a direct take of the comics nor was it a 360 shift from them. This one seems like it won't disappoint, I like the way its heading and I'm super excited for how this whole thing will play out.
-Overall, the micro-episodes have shown me that show will have terrible animation, bad action, and variable voice acting. However, the story will definitely kick-ass, I can smell it.

[capfan1]

I love the animation and the character designs.I think it's cool they brought Klaw into this series.As they didn't mention him or the Vision in this series,i'm expecting to see the Vision along with others not mentioned yet.Change of subject a little,Is the Thor animated series still on or has that been cancelled?Anyone know?

[Aaron]

They also had the guy modeled after Dutch himself, and the other one after Jesse Ventura's character.

And they all got taken out by an enemy they couldn't see.

I need to watch it again.

I remember the Jesse Ventura one.

[AlgeaX]

I love the animation and the character designs.I think it's cool they brought Klaw into this series.As they didn't mention him or the Vision in this series,i'm expecting to see the Vision along with others not mentioned yet.Change of subject a little,Is the Thor animated series still on or has that been cancelled?Anyone know?

I don't think we've heard any news on Thor: The Animated Series since 2009. I'd say it's coming out around the same time as the third season of Spectacular Spider-Man and that Teen Titans: Judas Contract DTV

[The Octopus]

I love the animation and the character designs.I think it's cool they brought Klaw into this series.As they didn't mention him or the Vision in this series,i'm expecting to see the Vision along with others not mentioned yet.Change of subject a little,Is the Thor animated series still on or has that been cancelled?Anyone know?

Well Marvel hasn't said anything about the Thor animated series recently, sooo I assume it has either been put on hold or was scrapped. The latter makes sense seeing as Thor is getting his own animated DVD next year and is staring in Avengers: EMH, so any reason to give him a tv series has gone down the drain in my mind.

[Venom Melendez]

I love the animation and the character designs.I think it's cool they brought Klaw into this series.As they didn't mention him or the Vision in this series,i'm expecting to see the Vision along with others not mentioned yet.Change of subject a little,Is the Thor animated series still on or has that been cancelled?Anyone know?

Yeah, the animation is good a fluid and the action is nicely done. I also love the character design(I really like what they did with Grim Reaper) and the voices have been great.

As for Vision.... Well, Ultron will be on the show and so will Wonder Man, so i'd wager Vision might appear eventually.

[dmxx116]

Hydra Lives!:

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14122header_banner5379548.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DepldvgvFtg

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

[Rick Jones]

It's cool seeing Maria Hill in animation again. I wonder if the SHIELD armor designs are based on Stark tech, too.

[redlion]

I really like this show!! Hydra Lives was great and there was so much action packed in this ep for it being so short. I especially like the interaction between Pepper and Rhodie. The action seems to be dynamic yet very balanced. I'm loving that intriguing subplots are becoming a staple of Marvel toons. Who was the rogue Hydra agent that saved Tony's neck from the sneak rocket launcher attack?

One thing that surprised me is how well the character designs look. I was a little concerned about this but I must admit, I'm begining to like them. They remind me of Spectacular Spiderman but I like A:EMH's slightly better.

For those of you guys that really follow this kind of thing, I noticed that Man Of Action worked on this show. How much did MOA really contribute to this series? Does anybody know the answer?

[Rick Jones]

Who was the rogue Hydra agent that saved Tony's neck from the sneak rocket launcher attack?
After he shot the other Hydra agent, I thought I heard him say "Not yet.", which got me to thinking that it's a villain who's got something worse cooking. Probably somebody involved with the upcoming breakout.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Okay, I really do not like Iron Man's voice. I can see what they are going for, but as someone else said, it does come off like a nasally Jack Black. I have no problem with any of the other voices, but I really don't like Tony's.

Other than that, I think I've warmed up to the style of the show, so I no longer have that much of a problem with the designs and animation; It's not the preferred look I'd want from an Avengers show, but I accept it for what it is, and I can still always watch the first Ultimate Avengers movie (which I love) whenever I want that sort of fix. In the meantime, I'll definitely keep watching this series.

[HEATXZ]

Hydra Lives was great :anime:
It had great action

[spyke]

After he shot the other Hydra agent, I thought I heard him say "Not yet.", which got me to thinking that it's a villain who's got something worse cooking. Probably somebody involved with the upcoming breakout.

I think the Rogue Agent is Black Widow.

[AlgeaX]

I think the Rogue Agent is Black Widow.

If so then Natasha's sounding awful manly.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

My guess for the rogue agent is Hawkeye.

[Aaron]

so....
the SHIELD anacronym. Isn't that the movie version, not the comics?
I think it's stood for multiple things, so I'm not sure.

I really liked this episode. I love how the plots seem to be inter-connected.

Also, didn't notice before, but I love IronMans armor.
It seems to have the high-tech look of the movie, but the color design and art style of the oldschool version of the red/yellow look.

[W.C.Reaf]

SHIELD changes its acronym every so often in the comics and at this point it doesn't matter what it stands for so long as it's called SHIELD.

[spyke]

If so then Natasha's sounding awful manly.

She's in disguise, so of course it will sound manly. Especially with the type of mask she is wearing. The same type of thing happened in the first episode of the GIANT ROBO OAV from the 90's when Ginrei (sp) was disguised as a masked man with a manly sounding voice.

[Aaron]

SHIELD changes its acronym every so often in the comics and at this point it doesn't matter what it stands for so long as it's called SHIELD.

True that.
I'm not complaining.
Actually, I thought it was neat. Another way to try to tie it in to the movies.
Like Banners outfit reminded me of Ed Nortons costume in the new movie.

[BigEclipse]

I'm thinking the rogue HYDRA agent was the Red Skull. Something about the wrinkling around his eyes made me think Red Skull. Like he's lying in wait until the right time to take over or something. I'm realling liking the series so far. If it continues to be this good once the full episodes take stride I won't be as heated as I was about W&TXM being canned.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

For those who watched the episodes up on Teletoon's website, we already know who the agent is ;)

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Thor the Mighty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGbhxbh1JtA&feature=player_embedded

[HEATXZ]

Thor the Mighty was awesome :anime:
Great to see the Wrecking Crew again :anime:

[Rick Jones]

Thor the Mighty was awesome :anime:
Great to see the Wrecking Crew again :anime:
Yes, it needs no more words than awesome. I was pretty much geeking out throughout it. Thank goodness that this isn't mid 90s Fox Kids. Everything during the fight felt bone-crushingly devastating. Can't wait until Cap debuts.

[redlion]

I'm thinking the rogue HYDRA agent was the Red Skull. Something about the wrinkling around his eyes made me think Red Skull. Like he's lying in wait until the right time to take over or something. I'm realling liking the series so far. If it continues to be this good once the full episodes take stride I won't be as heated as I was about W&TXM being canned.

Yeah, I sorta thought that too. Sounded like I heard a slight accent as well, perhaps there's a leadership struggle going on in Hydra's ranks.

Just saw Thor's ep. Man, I'm liking everyone of these so far. Even that these episodes are so short, there's still some very good character moments taking place in them. Jane Forster taking the rookie EMT out to a super-powered hotzone and he was unfamiliar with a code blue. The fact that he was too frightened to get out of the vehicle underscores the devastation that war between these superbeings can cause. Finally, Thor gets a little bit of respect in the power department. Taking on and defeating the entire wrecking crew by himself and making it look fairly easy. I loved it when Thor asks the Wrecker, "Have you no honor". The Wrecker replies.."Not even a little". Thor says, "Then you should be familiar with the attack from behind!" LOL, that was hilarious. I can't wait for this show to start.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

Good Thor episode! I like Jane Foster's design -- she's a cutie.

[Venom Melendez]

For those who watched the episodes up on Teletoon's website, we already know who the agent is ;)

Who is it?

[Webbed-Wonder]

Really enjoyed the Thor micro-episode, I thought the part about honor was funny, too.

[redlion]

Who is it?

I read somewhere it's supposed to be.....

the Grim Reaper

[AlgeaX]

A few random thoughts on HYDRA Lives and Thor The Mighty...


HYDRA Lives

Never thought I'd say this, but I feel for Maria Hill. This version of Nick Fury is a [very mean person].
I like the redesign of the Dreadnoughts, brings them more in line with HYDRA's visual motif. I'm also interested in finding out hoe they got their hands on Stark's tech.
Can anyone make out what the rogue HYDRA agent said after blasting his comrade? It sounds like "not yet" but there's a lot of distortion coming from the mask, plus he seems to have a bit of an accent.
Thor The Mighty

I like Wreckers here, they'll never be A-list world breaking threats but that's ok. Not every bad guy can be Kang or Ultron and sometimes all a story needs is just some goons in colourful spandex. Thunderball seems to be the smart one in the group which is in keeping with his comic persona. I just wish they'd drop the stupid hat, dude's supposed to be an evil version of Frasier Crane, give him some dignity.
I wonder if there's some connection between the Wreckers' mysterious employer and HYDRA, since they're both ripping off Stark's tech.
Love Jane Foster here, I think this is her first real animated appearance (I'm not sure the 60s Thor show really qualifies as animation :P). She comes across pretty damn heroically, It's no wonder Thor's so impressed.
Speaking of Thor, I love the way he completely loses his cool talking to Jane. Man I've been there. :D
All in all, some good stuff here. Let's hope the main series can keep this level of quality going.

Mod Note: Inappropriate language removed

[BigEclipse]

These episodes get better and bett each day. This is the Thor we've wanted to see animated for some time. I liked the look of the Wrecking Crew but didn't like Thunderball's voice. I expected him to sound smarmy and condescending. Also, why do all the black male characters look alike? For a second I was asking myself why Rhodey was riding in a EMT truck...

[Spideyzilla]

Man, I love these shorts! They're action packed, fun, clever and are getting me hyped for the series.

[dmxx116]

Why are the Micro are not in widescreen? They look even better if they were.

[bleachj0j]

This series is looking good. Can't wait. With this and Naruto Shippuden we'll have a nice action hour thing going.:D

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Why are the Micro are not in widescreen? They look even better if they were.

I know that would be awesome. Anyone know if the main series will be in widescreen?

[macattack]

"Have you no honor?"

"Not even a little."

"Then you should be familiar with attacking a foe from behind."

BLAM.

That was the most awesome exchange shown so far in any of these micros.

Also, I think I identified Jennifer Hale as the VA behind Jane Foster.

[BigEclipse]

I know that would be awesome. Anyone know if the main series will be in widescreen?

The micro episode that aired on Disney XD last week was widescreen so I'm guessing the whole of the series will be as well.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

The micro episode that aired on Disney XD last week was widescreen so I'm guessing the whole of the series will be as well.

Ohhh nice! First i couldn't wait for the series to air, now I can't wait for the series on Blu-Ray!! :D:D

[suss2it]

Ohhh nice! First i couldn't wait for the series to air, now I can't wait for the series on Blu-Ray!! :D:D
It might not get released on Blu-ray though, not many cartoon TV shows have been. But then again they're releasing Wolverine and the X-Men on Blu-ray so I hope they follow suite with this show too.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

It might not get released on Blu-ray though, not many cartoon TV shows have been. But then again they're releasing Wolverine and the X-Men on Blu-ray so I hope they follow suite with this show too.

Yeah, that's why I'm hoping they do the same with this.:D

[Rick Jones]

Behold, The Mandroids !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyW5tpiqNr4

[dmxx116]

So far so good this will be the best post 90's marvel cartoon in a long time, Now that the Iron Man storyline is done I'm just waiting the Captain America storyline to start up.

[suss2it]

So far so good this will be the best post 90's marvel cartoon in a long time, Now that the Iron Man storyline is done I'm just waiting the Captain America storyline to start up.
is Captain America confirmed to appear in the micro-episodes? Cause in the debut of the actual show the line-up consists solely of the original five Avengers.

Edit: Nevermind I saw your post in Earth's Mightiest Heroes talkback (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3700934&postcount=72).

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Oh, oh, I think I know how the HYDRA agent is!

It's the Grim Reaper, infiltrating into S.H.I.E.L.D.

Considering one of the plot synopsis for "Nick Fury, agent of S.H.I.E.L.D." is him fighting this villain.

Edit: Nevermind, I read the previous page.

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I don't know why they tried so hard to make Iron Man in tune with the movie version, yet decided against it when it came to Nick Fury. Fury's voice isn't bad, but his look is wrong; They're obviously going for the Ultimate "black" Nick Fury, which I don't have a problem with, but he doesn't look much different in design than Rhodey. Where's the Samuel Jackson bald head and goatie?

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

I don't know why they tried so hard to make Iron Man in tune with the movie version, yet decided against it when it came to Nick Fury. Fury's voice isn't bad, but his look is wrong; They're obviously going for the Ultimate "black" Nick Fury, which I don't have a problem with, but he doesn't look much different in design than Rhodey. Where's the Samuel Jackson bald head and goatie?

Yeah... pick one or the other right? I have no problems with the Ultimate Nick Fury, but what I do have a problem with is his haircut. It just looks stupid imo. He should have just been completely bald.

[HEATXZ]

Behold, The Mandroids was great :anime:
I like the part when Ironman destroy the Hydra robot

[AlgeaX]

Some more random thoughts on Behold, The Mandroids...

I didn't really think about it before but since others have mentioned it before, this version of Fury is really young looking, lay of the Infinity Formula Nick. And again I don't really see the point of having a black Fury if he's going to look nothing like Jackson.
Well that explains how HYDRA got their paws on Stark's tech. I love Stark's line, "When will you people learn weapons don't solve problems?". Interesting philosophy from a man who just incinerated a Dreadnought with a giant beam of death. Did they edit out the scene where Tony tried to negotiate with the killer robots?
I get the feeling HYDRA's going to be a major antagonist in the series, three of the eight villians profiled on the official site have direct ties to them, and it looks like they'll be playing a role in most of the micro eps.

[lukecage]

These episodes get better and bett each day. This is the Thor we've wanted to see animated for some time. I liked the look of the Wrecking Crew but didn't like Thunderball's voice. I expected him to sound smarmy and condescending. Also, why do all the black male characters look alike? For a second I was asking myself why Rhodey was riding in a EMT truck...

and why do they have to sound like amos and andy.

[dmxx116]

Hulk Versus the World :

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14153header_banner5714845.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxw0wLTFFhI

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

[Venom Melendez]

Some more random thoughts on Behold, The Mandroids...

I didn't really think about it before but since others have mentioned it before, this version of Fury is really young looking, lay of the Infinity Formula Nick. And again I don't really see the point of having a black Fury if he's going to look nothing like Jackson.




To be fair, he doesn't always look like Jackson in the Ultimate books. As for looking young, the guy is always older than he actually looks. Much like Steve Rogers, who looks like he's in his 20's, but is really over 60.

[Rick Jones]

Well, it looks like this won't be the cute and cuddly dumb Hulk.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

Hulk Versus the World :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxw0wLTFFhI

"Tick tick boom!"

awesome.

[HEATXZ]

Hulk VS The World was awesome :anime:
I like the fight between Hulk and Absorbing Man :anime:

[kid rabbit]

wild bill from g.i joe :eek: that is a surprise
so was the twist that they use thug hulk instead of dumb hulk

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

"Tick-Tick-Boom!"

I love that!

[BigEclipse]

and why do they have to sound like amos and andy.

I guess we all look and sound alike. Either that or Phil Lamar was too expensive to hire.;)

[Rick Jones]

and why do they have to sound like amos and andy.

::shrug:

Well, I can't say that I had any problem with the voice of Thunderball myself. It's not what I would have expected probably because most big guys end up sounding like Kevin Michael Richardson in my head, when I read comics. It sounds like Gary Anthony Williams kind of in Ruckus mode (only an assumption), and I have no problem with him doing voices. He has played his fair share of nerdy characters in the past, so it would be kind of interesting if he could establish a middle ground, between a more blue collar voice like Ruckus' and a more intellectual sounding one, for Thunderball who's a scientist and also very much a hard case.

[The Octopus]

I like Black Widow's voice, sounds like Vanessa Marshall. And Chris Cox is a good Hawkeye. Cant wait for this Siege of Asgard episode.
Btw, it sounds like Rhodey is voiced by Bumper Robinson.

[Brad Redfield]

I am absolutely loving these micro episodes so far. This is gonna be a great show.

Now if Ultimate Spider-Man is up to snuff and get some good X-Men and Fantastic Four series off the ground then Disney has a killer line-up on their hands.

[dmxx116]

I like Black Widow's voice, sounds like Vanessa Marshall. And Chris Cox is a good Hawkeye. Cant wait for this Siege of Asgard episode.
Btw, it sounds like Rhodey is voiced by Bumper Robinson.I'm not liking Rhodey voice in this series James Avery sounds better then this but he not even my favorite Rhodey voice that would go to Dorian Harewood who over from Avery in the later episode's in Iron Man season one and beyond.

[spyke]

Well, it looks like this won't be the cute and cuddly dumb Hulk.

And thank God for that.:)

That episode was off the hook.

[AlgeaX]

A few more random thoughts...

Was that Wild Bill (http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Wild_Bill_(RAH)) of G.I.Joe fame? I believe it was.
This ep did a good job of showcasing Absorbing Man's powers as well as the animation. This series is already shaping up well in terms of action scenes.
I'm liking Hulk's characterisation so far. The writing team seems to have spotted him a few extra I.Q. points, recognising Ross, using the Hulkbuster's weapons against them as well as a better grasp of the Queen's English. Heck, he even got to crack a one-liner. He seems a bit more like his very early Lee/Kirby persona, where he wasn't so much dumb as ornery as all heck. That's fine by me, if Hulk is going to be a full fledged Avenger then he'll need some level of self-control.
"Tick, tick, boom!" LOL!

[M.O.D.O.K.]

A few more random thoughts...

Was that Wild Bill (http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Wild_Bill_%28RAH%29) of G.I.Joe fame? I believe it was.

I thought of Dum Dum Dugan when I first saw him, but I could be wrong.

[Venom Melendez]

A few more random thoughts...

I'm liking Hulk's characterisation so far. The writing team seems to have spotted him a few extra I.Q. points, recognising Ross, using the Hulkbuster's weapons against them as well as a better grasp of the Queen's English. Heck, he even got to crack a one-liner. He seems a bit more like his very early Lee/Kirby persona, where he wasn't so much dumb as ornery as all heck. That's fine by me, if Hulk is going to be a full fledged Avenger then he'll need some level of self-control.




Well, it seems Banner lets Hulk out willingly in this show some of the time(From what we heard of the 2 episodes showb at Comic Con), So the explenation is probably similar to Planet Hulk/ Greg Pak's current run.

Hopefully this means they will also make use of Bruce Banner's inteligence much like Pak has.

[Wonderwall]

Not sure if anyone noticed or brought it up but did anyone else think that the guys who attacked Ant Man looked a lot like the cast of Predator? At least I thought they looked like Arnold, Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, and the guy who played Billy and they were even being taken out by something they couldn't see:p

[Venom Melendez]

I loved the Hulk / Absorbing Man fight. It was cool to see Hulk let loose.

[Rick Jones]

I loved the Hulk / Absorbing Man fight. It was cool to see Hulk let loose.I probably got spoiled on Hulk Vs and stuff but I wasn't really feeling like he cut loose but then Creel is "smart" enough to turn to rock, and things take a turn.

[spyke]

In regards to this "smarter" version of the Hulk for those of you who are only familiar with the dumb/child like rampaging version of the character that is shown in most of the media. The Hulk was originally smart for the first several years after he was created. The character didn't start being written as the "iconic" (and IMO, very boring) dumb "Hulk smash" version of the character until the late 60's, and continued to be written that way up until the early 80's (when Bruce chad complete control of the Hulk for a couple of years. The hulk was then reverted back to the savage Hulk version of the character for a few years. Then in the mid to late 80's, the Hulk returned to the original smarter meaner version of the character, which is pretty much how the character has been written ever since (except during a couple of exceptions when Bruce was either in complete control or the Hulk reverted back to the savage Hulk persona).

The "Siege of Asgard" episode is now up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBaoe-Z0RTE&feature=player_embedded

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

In regards to this "smarter" version of the Hulk for those of you who are only familiar with the dumb/child like rampaging version of the character that is shown in most of the media. The Hulk was originally smart for the first several years after he was created. The character didn't start being written as the "iconic" (and IMO, very boring) dumb "Hulk smash" version of the character until the late 60's, and continued to be written that way up until the early 80's (when Bruce chad complete control of the Hulk for a couple of years. The hulk was then reverted back to the savage Hulk version of the character for a few years. Then in the mid to late 80's, the Hulk returned to the original smarter meaner version of the character, which is pretty much how the character has been written ever since (except during a couple of exceptions when Bruce was either in complete control or the Hulk reverted back to the savage Hulk persona).

Very true. The Hulk could talk in complete sentences, and was a real jerk back in Avengers #1 and 2.

[Rick Jones]

Very true. The Hulk could talk in complete sentences, and was a real jerk back in Avengers #1 and 2.
He was also a circus clown, which was awesome.


The Siege Of Asgard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBaoe-Z0RTE

[Aaron]

Not sure if anyone noticed or brought it up but did anyone else think that the guys who attacked Ant Man looked a lot like the cast of Predator? At least I thought they looked like Arnold, Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, and the guy who played Billy and they were even being taken out by something they couldn't see:p

Oh yeah!
That got brought up!
That totally rocked! I thought it was hilarous! Such an awesome homage!
I can't wait for more of this show. I'm so hooked.

[HEATXZ]

The Siege Of Asgard was awesome :anime:
It had great action and The Warriors Three also appear :anime:

[AlgeaX]

Wow, that's a heck of a lotta epicness packed into a mere five minutes. The battle scene was pretty brutal too. Did Baldur just stab a dude in the eye? :eek:

[JTMarsh]

In regards to this "smarter" version of the Hulk for those of you who are only familiar with the dumb/child like rampaging version of the character that is shown in most of the media. The Hulk was originally smart for the first several years after he was created. The character didn't start being written as the "iconic" (and IMO, very boring) dumb "Hulk smash" version of the character until the late 60's, and continued to be written that way up until the early 80's (when Bruce chad complete control of the Hulk for a couple of years. The hulk was then reverted back to the savage Hulk version of the character for a few years. Then in the mid to late 80's, the Hulk returned to the original smarter meaner version of the character, which is pretty much how the character has been written ever since (except during a couple of exceptions when Bruce was either in complete control or the Hulk reverted back to the savage Hulk persona).

I'm sure Fred Tatasciore appreciates the chance to play a Hulk who does speak in complete sentences. As an actor that probably gives him more to play with beyond just doing grunting, growling and screaming all the time (which he does very well).


Not sure if anyone noticed or brought it up but did anyone else think that the guys who attacked Ant Man looked a lot like the cast of Predator? At least I thought they looked like Arnold, Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, and the guy who played Billy and they were even being taken out by something they couldn't see:p
Now that you mention it... yeah, a very cool homage (Billy from Predator was played by Sonny Landham).

Siege of Asgard was also fun.

[dmxx116]

Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14180header_banner5805753.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il9t9v5sxYI

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://marvel.com/videos/1549.the_avengers~colon~_earth~apos~s_mightiest_heroes~excl~%2c_micro-episode_9

[kid rabbit]

grim reaper is an awesome villien I hope to see more of him
and nick got his gray sideburns

[M.O.D.O.K.]

The best one yet. Really loved the fights and the villains. Especially liked MODOK making a cameo. He looked so creepy!

[Rick Jones]

Nick was really awesome in this one. Too bad that the live-action Fury will probably never get this active in any fight scenes.

[macattack]

I think it's safe to say that this series will be undeniably awesome. Perhaps just as awesome as Spectacular Spider-Man. I just hope that they keep this up for 52 episodes. It's like they have to plan and make an anime series.

. . .

You know, this WOULD be like an anime series if they had a real song theme. I'm sure Breaking Benjamin, Alpha Rev, Atreyu, and Grace Potter (all signed to a Disney label FYI) are available, Marvel. Make it happen.

[The Octopus]

Saw Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD, odd way to give him gray hair, but the action was neat, not DC status, but good for what Marvel's done before; sort of. I think Maria Hill is voiced by Kari Wuher and Loki by Graham McTavish. Im dying to see the next Hulk one though, can't wait to see Black Widow and Hawkeye in action.

[screw on head]

This is probably the best version of Nick Fury we've gotten yet.

Really enjoyed all the Steranko nods in this latest episode. This is the first episode that's really made me go, "Wow, they've got something here". In terms of offering up some winks and nods to the fans they did a great job with this one.

The Ant-Man episode is my second favorite, because that managed to take him and present him a pretty badass way. I especially liked the reveal after he hit the giant button in his lab, because I didn't figure out what it did until after the reveal so kudos to the directors there.

I'm still not too crazy with the character designs in this series but they're growing on me. Really looking forward to seeing how this series unfolds and what story-lines and characters we're gonna see!

[Webbed-Wonder]

Wow, the Nick Fury micro-episode is my favorite so far. Great, intense action. Really kinetic looking.

[Rick Jones]

Does anyone know why MODOK looks like someone threw paint on him ?

[Venom Melendez]

I think it's safe to say that this series will be undeniably awesome. Perhaps just as awesome as Spectacular Spider-Man. I just hope that they keep this up for 52 episodes. It's like they have to plan and make an anime series.

. . .

You know, this WOULD be like an anime series if they had a real song theme. I'm sure Breaking Benjamin, Alpha Rev, Atreyu, and Grace Potter (all signed to a Disney label FYI) are available, Marvel. Make it happen.


Er, i don't think they can. It's not that simple.

[AlgeaX]

I've been looking forward to this one, since it features the debut of one of my all time favourite Avengers villains. Grim Reaper is awesome in this, is that Lance Henriksen doing his voice? At any rate I hope we see more of him in the future, along with his extended family. ;)

In fact this whole ep seems very villain centric, introducing not only Reaper but HYDRA's commander in chief; Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker. Strucker doesn't say much but he's very creepy here, draining the life from his victims with the Satan Claw. And how badass is Fury? Dude just had a couple of decades taken of his life and he doesn't even miss a beat.

Some interesting little tidbits about the various super prisons. Each of them seem to have their own specialities, the Cube deals with villains who've been mutated by radiation, the Vault focuses on tech based bad guys and the Big House? Well we'll just have to wait and see. There's also a fourth unseen super-prison, my money is on the Negative Zone Gulag.

[Rick Jones]

Some interesting little tidbits about the various super prisons. Each of them seem to have their own specialities, the Cube deals with villains who've been mutated by radiation, the Vault focuses on tech based bad guys and the Big House? Well we'll just have to wait and see. There's also a fourth unseen super-prison, my money is on the Negative Zone Gulag.
I've been thinking of that as well. I can't imagine that they'd try to keep the Raft as a big secret. It's pretty much just supervillain Alcatraz. If it does turn out to be the one in the Negative Zone, and since it already seems that each one of these was designed by a super scientist, I wonder if it will be said that Reed Richards helped to design it. Just a little mention would be cool, to me.

[AlgeaX]

I've been thinking of that as well. I can't imagine that they'd try to keep the Raft as a big secret. It's pretty much just supervillain Alcatraz. If it does turn out to be the one in the Negative Zone, and since it already seems that each one of these was designed by a super scientist, I wonder if it will be said that Reed Richards helped to design it. Just a little mention would be cool, to me.

My guess is that the Negative Zone prison isn't so much for supervillains as rogue heroes and other people S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't want the world at large to know they're keeping captive.

[HEATXZ]

Great episode :anime:
Awesome to see Grim Reaper in action :anime:

[Aaron]

I think it's safe to say that this series will be undeniably awesome. Perhaps just as awesome as Spectacular Spider-Man. I just hope that they keep this up for 52 episodes. It's like they have to plan and make an anime series.

. . .

You know, this WOULD be like an anime series if they had a real song theme. I'm sure Breaking Benjamin, Alpha Rev, Atreyu, and Grace Potter (all signed to a Disney label FYI) are available, Marvel. Make it happen.

I hope they don't attach ANY of those bands to this show.
First, it doesn't need any band attached to it to be better.
Second, I hope those bands stay far away from anything related to this show.

[macattack]

. . .

I was only being half-serious with the "bands" thing. I keep forgetting that over teh internets everything is taken at face value.

I was just saying that since they're producing it like an anime, might as well go all the way. It was a lighthearted comment.

On-topic, hey, how about Nick Fury? :sweat:

[AlgeaX]

I was just saying that since they're producing it like an anime, might as well go all the way. It was a lighthearted comment.

How is this like an anime exactly?

[spyke]

You know, this WOULD be like an anime series if they had a real song theme. I'm sure Breaking Benjamin, Alpha Rev, Atreyu, and Grace Potter (all signed to a Disney label FYI) are available, Marvel. Make it happen.

Funny you should say that. The Iron Man and Nick Fury episodes reminded me of the 90's GIANT ROBO anime. The Avengers and SHIELD are the Experts of Justice, and Hydra is Big Fire. I kept hearing the GIANT ROBO score in my head as the Grim Reaper was through SHIELD HQ and fighting the SHIELD agents, since that scene reminded me of the seen in the first episode of GR when Shocking Alberto invaded the Experts HQ and was taking down all of the non powered Experts. Heck, the chief of the Experts looks like original Nick Fury (minus the Eye patch).

[Romperstoomper]

I'd like it if they kept Grimreapers old mask. Or alternated.
The "Aku horns" on the sides are a must.


I like this. Still not DC level though, but good still.
The animation and fight scenes will probobly get better when the show picks upp for real.

[TheVileOne]

This show is already starting better than Justice League in terms of character development and setup.

[Mad Hatter]

Must...see...next...micro...episode...NOW. Last one...was...so awesome.

And for the record, I'm betting that the Raft is the other prison that Fury was referring to.

And by the way, does anyone else think that it's messed up that the US is constantly behind on episodes of animated series. I mean, Canada's getting the micro-episodes before us, and Australia's betting episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold before us. I mean, it's just not right. Why? WHY?!?

I'm happy for you guys though.

[AlgeaX]

I'd like it if they kept Grimreapers old mask. Or alternated.
The "Aku horns" on the sides are a must.

Personally, I like the hood, more creepy and thematic.

[macattack]

How is this like an anime exactly?

It's being produced like one (52 episodes at once), and it has a serialized, ongoing plot like most anime too. Its violence level, judging by the shorts, is about at the level of children's animation in Japan, a bit below more mature-ish fare like Eureka Seven or Fullmetal Alchemist but definitely at the Naruto/Bleach level except there's no blood. The score also seems to be done using live instruments (at least partially), which is also common in Japan for animation.

That's where the joke of getting some real song themes came form. Of course, now that I had to explain it, it's no longer funny. Maybe it wasn't funny to begin with. :sad:

I've been waiting for a Marvel cartoon like this, that brings most of the characters together for an epic story that is family-friendly yet intense and uses an amazing voice cast. I just wish the animation was a bit better (Film Roman's animation is quite sloppy in Super Hero Squad and while it's better here, there's still noticeable flaws). But I can't complain about the audio or the writing at all. This is great stuff so far.

Maybe this will be the "Marvel Justice League" so many people have waited for. It would be cool if Ultimate Spider-Man tied into this but I don't think that'll happen.

[BigEclipse]

This officially reeks of awesomeness.

[.c.h.r.i.s.]

I'd like it if they kept Grimreapers old mask. Or alternated.
The "Aku horns" on the sides are a must.

qft

the classic mask is awesome!

[Rick Jones]

I don't find Grim Reaper's old look menacing, so I really like the update.


My Brother, My Enemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-PkOlPdG4

[CyclonatorZ]

Just finished watching all the micro-episodes, and man, it seems like all of my expectations for this show have been met. The voice acting is good, the charaters well-defined, the villians threatening, and the animation beautiful. It may not be nearly as fluid as Spectacular Spiderman (heck, I'm not sure anything is), but its definitely on the level of other great comic-book cartoons like TMNT 2003 and Batman: TAS. Plus, even those this is a kid's show, the violence is suprisingly brutal and realistic - punches actually crack, and guns even fire real bullets! :eek:

Color me impressed - I'll be checking back regularly for updates now that I know I love the show. I can't wait for the first full-length episode to be uploaded: if they can pack this much awesome into small shorts, then imagine how great the pilot will be! :)

[HEATXZ]

My Brother, My Enemy was awesome :anime:
It had great action scenes
Looks like Clancy Brown plays Odin :anime:

[The Octopus]

My Brother, my enemy was interesting.
Odin seems to piss people off, more so than in previous animated incarnations. Loki is beaten a bit too quickly and then gets banished. Thor leaves Asgard and life goes on.
Short and not really how long I thought that arc would last, but whatever and I think Enchantress is in the next Thor-related one, so Im excited for that.
Anyways, wasn't "This Monster, this Hero" supposed to be today?

[dmxx116]

This Monster, this Hero :

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14215header_banner6211811.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RU0V7kY4LA&feature=player_embedded

http://marvel.com/videos/1553.the_avengers~colon~_earth~apos~s_mightiest_heroes~excl~%2c_micro-episode_10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd1HYu-2YrY&feature=fvwk

My Brother, My Enemy :

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14216header_banner6213821.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-PkOlPdG4

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://marvel.com/videos/1554.the_avengers~colon~_earth~apos~s_mightiest_heroes~excl~%2c_micro-episode_11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e495PeiheOk&feature=related

[redlion]

This has been an incredible series so far. Every micro ep I've seen I've thoroughly enjoyed. I haven't seen one I didn't like. The action has been awesome and the writing has been top notch. Marvel really has something here. I'm definately looking forward to the start of the series proper and I think this 1st season is going to be something really special indeed.

Just watched, My Brother...My Enemy. The action was intense and brutal. The image of Thor welding the lightning and Loki commanding the dark forces was very iconic truly representing the light vs. darkness nature of their personalities and relationship. The scene in the throne room was pure gold. There was a lot of character development and it demonstrated perfectly the estranged relationship of the royal Asgardian Family in the short amount of time it had. Oh...and Loki being banished to the isle of silence and realising he can't speak......Creepy and Awesome at the same time. The musical score during this scene, really helped give it that eerie feeling. Great stuff!!

This series can't get here fast enough for me.

[HEATXZ]

This Monster This Hero was awesome :anime:
We saw cameos from Bi Beast,Radiationman,and The U-Foes
The only villain i don't know is the Skeleton Man in the suit does any know who he is?

[M.O.D.O.K.]

This Monster This Hero was awesome :anime:
We saw cameos from Bi Beast,Radiationman,and The U-Foes
The only villain i don't know is the Skeleton Man in the suit does any know who he is?

He looked like a revamped Half-Life to me, though it could be someone even more obscure.

The Leader and Abomination were also there. There's also a vial labeled "Madman", a villain probably better known for a couple of minor Hulk arcs and the 2003 video game.

[Venom Melendez]

I've been looking forward to this one, since it features the debut of one of my all time favourite Avengers villains. Grim Reaper is awesome in this, is that Lance Henriksen doing his voice? At any rate I hope we see more of him in the future, along with his extended family. ;)

In fact this whole ep seems very villain centric, introducing not only Reaper but HYDRA's commander in chief; Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker. Strucker doesn't say much but he's very creepy here, draining the life from his victims with the Satan Claw. And how badass is Fury? Dude just had a couple of decades taken of his life and he doesn't even miss a beat.

Some interesting little tidbits about the various super prisons. Each of them seem to have their own specialities, the Cube deals with villains who've been mutated by radiation, the Vault focuses on tech based bad guys and the Big House? Well we'll just have to wait and see. There's also a fourth unseen super-prison, my money is on the Negative Zone Gulag.


If it's anything like the comics, the big house is where they shrink the inmates. Anyway, the fourth prison is probably the Raft.


Personally, I like the hood, more creepy and thematic.

Agreed, i also think Grim Reaper looks better that way.

[redlion]

This Monster..This Hero was awesome just like everything else.Hawkeye and Black Widow are some truly badasses!! Hawkeye must have an arrow for every purpose. Too funny!! I like how Hulk is showing his heroic side, as long as they don't make him too nice and cuddly.

[macattack]

This Monster..This Hero was awesome just like everything else.Hawkeye and Black Widow are some truly badasses!! Hawkeye must have an arrow for every purpose. Too funny!! I like how Hulk is showing his heroic side, as long as they don't make him too nice and cuddly.

They won't make this Hulk nice and cuddly. We have The Super Hero Squad for that.

Anyway, This Monster, This Hero was awesome stuff, and hinted at the future quite well. It explains why the Hulk is more heroic/controlled this time (sounds like a Planet Hulk situation, Hulk's gotten smarter and has a loose moral code, though who knows how long everything will stay that way). It also hints at potential Army foes of the Hulk (I'm expecting Pvt. Benjamin Tibbits to show up soon), as well as perhaps an origin for She-Hulk if she shows up.

Just remember, though, these micros are the first five episodes or so of the real series broken up into pieces. Though none of the micros completely tie together into 22 minutes, which makes me think some footage got edited out in order to make the micros, so when the full episodes air there'll be a couple of new minutes of footage to make the micros bind together into cohesive wholes.

[Rick Jones]

It also hints at potential Army foes of the Hulk (I'm expecting Pvt. Benjamin Tibbits to show up soon), as well as perhaps an origin for She-Hulk if she shows up.

Just remember, though, these micros are the first five episodes or so of the real series broken up into pieces. Though none of the micros completely tie together into 22 minutes, which makes me think some footage got edited out in order to make the micros, so when the full episodes air there'll be a couple of new minutes of footage to make the micros bind together into cohesive wholes.
As soon as I saw that vial of Banner blood, I immediately thought of She-Hulk.

Judging from the Disney XD promos for "Avengers Week", It looks like they'll air a half-hour of these each night, so it would be cool if they air them as proper episodes. They might just save that for the re-airs though.

[AlgeaX]

Another nicely done micro-ep, they're definitely going for the smarter Peter David style Hulk. Hulk and Banner even seem to be working toward a common goal, shades Professor Hulk?

We also get a great intro for Hawkeye and Black Widow. I especially liked Clint's scene with Banner towards the end. Clint can sometimes be flanderised into a complete loudmouth jackass but they do a good job with balancing that out with his more perceptive side here. Also, did Hawkeye call that blond S.H.I.E.L.D agent "Morse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mockingbird_(Marvel_Comics))"? Why yes, I believe he did. ;)

The Cube was very creepy, though I got ask what the architect was on when he designed it. I know everybody was thinking She-Hulk when Samson took that blood sample from Bruce, but I'm actually thinking Samson will use it to juice himself up at some point.

P.S. According to Wikipedia, that really was Lance Henriksen voicing Grim Reaper in the last micro-ep.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I'm loving how The Cube and the Vault are holding the respective villains of the Hulk (Leader, Abomination, Radiaoactive Man, U-Foes, Bi-Beast, Madman, Half-Life) and Iron Man (Crimson Dynamo, MODOK, Technovore). Wonder who else we will see on the Big House and the last prison?

[Venom Melendez]

Another nicely done micro-ep, they're definitely going for the smarter Peter David style Hulk. Hulk and Banner even seem to be working toward a common goal, shades Professor Hulk?

We also get a great intro for Hawkeye and Black Widow. I especially liked Clint's scene with Banner towards the end. Clint can sometimes be flanderised into a complete loudmouth jackass but they do a good job with balancing that out with his more perceptive side here. Also, did Hawkeye call that blond S.H.I.E.L.D agent "Morse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mockingbird_(Marvel_Comics))"? Why yes, I believe he did. ;)

The Cube was very creepy, though I got ask what the architect was on when he designed it. I know everybody was thinking She-Hulk when Samson took that blood sample from Bruce, but I'm actually thinking Samson will use it to juice himself up at some point.

P.S. According to Wikipedia, that really was Lance Henriksen voicing Grim Reaper in the last micro-ep.


Actually, since Banner gave his blood to Jen because she need a blood transfusion, i don't understand why people would think "She-Hulk", She's not even a SHIELD agaent. But yeah, Samson will probably use it on himself or they'll just run some other expirements. They also have blood samples of the other inmates.

Also, i loved the cameo's of the different villains, I loved that Vapor showed up and surprised to see Bi-Beast too.

[Rick Jones]

Actually, since Banner gave his blood to Jen because she need a blood transfusion, i don't understand why people would think "She-Hulk", She's not even a SHIELD agaent.
It's not about thinking that she'll be in the show as part of some SHIELD experiment but it just makes her come to mind. Sort of the same way that smelling popcorn can make one think of going to the movies. Personally, I wouldn't even count on her being in the show, though I won't rule it out. Doc Samson's future transformation feels pretty telegraphed. Where's the fun in putting him in the show if you don't fully use him as the Hulk anatagonist he can be ?

[Aaron]

I don't find Grim Reaper's old look menacing, so I really like the update.


My Brother, My Enemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-PkOlPdG4

Omg, was Odin played by Clancy Brown!?!?!?!
The Kurgen was frickin' ODIN! That's awesome.

[macattack]

It's not about thinking that she'll be in the show as part of some SHIELD experiment but it just makes her come to mind. Sort of the same way that smelling popcorn can make one think of going to the movies. Personally, I wouldn't even count on her being in the show, though I won't rule it out. Doc Samson's future transformation feels pretty telegraphed. Where's the fun in putting him in the show if you don't fully use him as the Hulk anatagonist he can be ?

Yeah, I just realized that. Doc Samson wasn't gamma-juiced in his scene with Bruce. I've never thought of Samson as an antagonist to Bruce, but it might be cool to see the relationship distorted in such a way. I was actually thinking Tibbits before Jennifer, though.

I would not discount Jennifer showing up once Hulk inevitably freaks out and starts throwing the Avengers around. She brings the brute force without the mental instability. Plus, we need another woman in the Avengers besides Wasp at some point. But who knows? They might go the Ultimate route and have her just be a SHIELD scientist.

[Venom Melendez]

I wonder if anything happened to general Ross for firing at Hawkeye and Black Widow.


Yeah, I just realized that. Doc Samson wasn't gamma-juiced in his scene with Bruce. I've never thought of Samson as an antagonist to Bruce, but it might be cool to see the relationship distorted in such a way. I was actually thinking Tibbits before Jennifer, though.

I would not discount Jennifer showing up once Hulk inevitably freaks out and starts throwing the Avengers around. She brings the brute force without the mental instability. Plus, we need another woman in the Avengers besides Wasp at some point. But who knows? They might go the Ultimate route and have her just be a SHIELD scientist.


Hulk is part of the core team, so i'm pretty sure that won't happen. Plus, Hulk isn't that dumb in this show. Besides, Banner is a better fit and adds an interesting dynamic. Also, many of the Hulk's foes are making recurring appearances on the show, it would be odd to to have The Leader without Banner.

It's pretty clear that Banner is here for the long run. Especially since Banner mentioned he reached out to the Hulk and that they've come to an understanding.

Besides, if they go the Ultimate route, it's Betty who becomes She-Hulk. As for other females, we've got Black Widow and i heard we might see Ms.Marvel.

[AlgeaX]

So here we are at the halfway point and things are still looking good, Although this ep didn't wow me as much as some of the others have. Most of the micro-ep is given over to establishing the basics of Thor's relationship with Loki and Odin and while it's done well you don't really learn anything that any Marvelite doesn't already know. Admittedly, since these micro-eps are meant to bring new fans and kids up to speed on these characters that's probably the point, so I can't be to harsh. I imagine this stuff would probably be way more interesting to someone who was experiencing Thor and his world for the very first time. And now that the creative team have established the characters, let's see if they go anywhere interesting with them.


Other random thoughts...

Is that Graham McTavish reprising his role as Loki from Hulk vs. Thor? If so then neat, his take on loki was one of the highlights of that DTV.
Clancy Brown makes for a great Odin, though I do miss the eye-patch
The Isle of Silence was very creepy.
P.S. I'm surprised no one has commented on the Mockingbird cameo in This Monster, This Hero yet.

[The Octopus]

Is that Graham McTavish reprising his role as Loki from Hulk vs. Thor? If so then neat, his take on loki was one of the highlights of that DTV.

I believe it is Graham reprising his role from Hulk vs. Thor. And from what I understand Kari Wahlgren is reprising her role as the Enchantress from the DTV for the show.

[JTMarsh]

I heard Kyle Herbert was taking over the role of Loki. But if that is Graham McTavish back as Loki that's great because he was the best thing about Hulk Vs. Thor.

[dmxx116]

The Isle of Silence :

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14217header_banner6217669.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DELxcJQn1hk&feature=player_embedded

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://marvel.com/videos/1556.the_avengers~colon~_earth~apos~s_mightiest_heroes~excl~%2c_micro-episode_12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aziJuLZdyiE&feature=related

[BigEclipse]

Even though it had less action than the previous episodes, "Isle of Silence" was very good in setting exposition. I knew Loki was taken down too easily. I'm liking this series even more and more with each micro episode. Dare I say I think the series is already better than W&TXM and I really, really liked that show.

[HEATXZ]

Isle of Silence was great :anime:
Interesting how Loki was behind everything

[redlion]

Even though it had less action than the previous episodes, "Isle of Silence" was very good in setting exposition. I knew Loki was taken down too easily. I'm liking this series even more and more with each micro episode. Dare I say I think the series is already better than W&TXM and I really, really liked that show.

Yeah, I'm hoping A:EMH eventually sets in own mark for quality. If it can keep improving over the course of the season, it's quite possible it will surpass the JL's 1st season. JL season one wasn't that great, btw.

[AlgeaX]

Another good one, it's mostly exposition but it's interesting exposition. Turns out everything in the previous Thor, eps from the battle with the Wrecking Crew to the Frost Giant invasion to Loki's own banishment was all part of the trickster god's as yet unrevealed plan. My guess is Loki's going to be the one behind the mass super-villain jailbreak that brings the team together in the premier. That ties in nicely with Loki's own unique place in the Avengers mythos as the one who unwittingly brought the team together.

Yet more random thoughts...

We get our first look at Enchantress and Executioner, with Kari Wahlgren reprising her role from Hulk vs. Thor.
We also get the debut (sorta) of Jeffery Combs' Leader, Combs is great in what little we hear of him. But then it's Combs, we all knew he was going to be awesome.

[Rick Jones]

Enter The Whirlwind!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-JAppnN6do



Isle of Silence: I'm kind of curious as to how on Earth, Loki was able to deceive Odin about Jane and Thor. It didn't seem like enough time to me. Small error in plot or was that something Loki set up as well ?

[Webbed-Wonder]

We also get the debut (sorta) of Jeffery Combs' Leader, Combs is great in what little we hear of him. But then it's Combs, we all knew he was going to be awesome.



I thought that was Jeffery Combs when I heard him! Sweet.

[JTMarsh]

After Whirlwind I think I'm starting to fall for Jan. ;)

[Rick Jones]

After Whirlwind I think I'm starting to fall for Jan. ;)
Well, she certainly is fun and lively. Whirlwind is one of those second rate Marvel villains I always loved (alongside guys like Shocker, Batroc, Wrecking Crew, Rhino, etc) so it's fun to see him but I also felt kind of sorry for him after he got taken out like that by The Wasp of all people. So on one hand, it's great to see Jan handle herself but Whirlwind really needs to get his act together while he has time to do so in the Big House.

Seeing Jan, accompanied by the music during the beginning, made me have weird thoughts of seeing her used in a Disney/Marvel Princess line. Yeah, these are the end of days (just joking. DC barbies didn't seem to hurt them much).

[HEATXZ]

Enter The Whirlwind was great :anime:
Whirlwind is one of my favorite marvel villains

[Brad Redfield]

Ha, nice Punisher reference towards the beginning there. Tomorrow will finally see Cap entering the picture. :D

BTW, is this show getting an actual live orchestra for its score? It kinda sounds like it for the past few episodes.

[Rick Jones]

Ha, nice Punisher reference towards the beginning there. Tomorrow will finally see Cap entering the picture. :D

Don't forget the Man Thing easter egg, too. It would been cool if the paper could have been the Bugle but hey, Excelsior! I'm sure Stan would love that.

Anyways, Cap is tomorrow ? Finally ! Not that I haven't been absolutely loving these but... It's Cap.

[Venom Melendez]

Well, she certainly is fun and lively. Whirlwind is one of those second rate Marvel villains I always loved (alongside guys like Shocker, Batroc, Wrecking Crew, Rhino, etc) so it's fun to see him but I also felt kind of sorry for him after he got taken out like that by The Wasp of all people. So on one hand, it's great to see Jan handle herself but Whirlwind really needs to get his act together while he has time to do so in the Big House.

Seeing Jan, accompanied by the music during the beginning, made me have weird thoughts of seeing her used in a Disney/Marvel Princess line. Yeah, these are the end of days (just joking. DC barbies didn't seem to hurt them much).

Jan has beaten Whirlwind before and she is more than capable of taking down supervillains. So i don't get the "of all people" remark, she's not weak.

Plus in the comics Whirlwind started his super-villain career fighting Wasp and Giant-Man and and he also had a crush on The Wasp. So it's rather fitting his first battle on the show is with the Wasp.

[Rick Jones]

Jan has beaten Whirlwind before and she is more than capable of taking down supervillains. So i don't get the "of all people" remark, she's not weak.

Plus in the comics Whirlwind started his super-villain career fighting Wasp and Giant-Man and and he also had a crush on The Wasp. So it's rather fitting his first battle on the show is with the Wasp.
When you're a supervillain trying to make a name for himself and you're being taken out by a flighty fashionista/heiress whose power set consists of shrinking and stinging, that's pretty embarassing. I'd much rather telling my cellmate that I ended up there because of Thor or the Hulk than say that I crossed paths with the Wasp. I know about Jan and Whirlwind's history but that doesn't really matter right now as this is the very beginning of it all.

[Venom Melendez]

When you're a supervillain trying to make a name for himself and you're being taken out by a flighty fashionista/heiress whose power set consists of shrinking and stinging, that's pretty embarassing. I'd much rather telling my cellmate that I ended up there because of Thor or the Hulk than say that I crossed paths with the Wasp. I know about Jan and Whirlwind's history but that doesn't really matter right now as this is the very beginning of it all.

Again, Wasp is a great crime fighter(Who in the comics has defeated stonger foes than Whirlwind and has even lead the Avengers), if the other villains underestimate her, that's their problem. Her stinging powers were clearly more than enough to beat him.

As for being the beginning of it all, that makes this all their more fitting. In the comics the first super-heroes he fought( and lost) agaisnt where Wasp and Giant-Man, makes sense that his first fight in the show is agaisnt them as well.

Also, if he gains an attraction too her like in the comics, he'll probably consider it an honor to be defeated by her(Heck, judging his reaction to seeing her grow to normal size, it's possible he already is). Besides, Whirlwind is a small time villain, so he doesn't really have any room to talk.

[Aaron]

Ha, nice Punisher reference towards the beginning there. Tomorrow will finally see Cap entering the picture. :D
....

I know! I totally loved the Punisher nod. I remember seeing it in one of the trailers. I was so excited. I know this show is all about the Avengers, but with so many villains I hope we get lots of cool cameos from other characters.
I'd love to see the Punisher show up in an episode or something.

CAP!? Seriously!? Sweet! Where do you find your info? I can't wait to see a Cap episode.

[Brad Redfield]

Well, its shown in the episode list in the first post. :p


Episode #14 "Meet Captain America"

The next three look to be Cap-centric episodes. :D

[Aaron]

Well, its shown in the episode list in the first post. :p



The next three look to be Cap-centric episodes. :D

LOL. You know, I never even looked at that post. Wow. I glossed right over it.

So, it stands to reason that the 'Conqueror' episode should feature Kang.

I hope the Wakanda episode not only has Black Panther, but maybe a Storm cameo.
I really wish I could get all the Black Panther animated episodes. I hope this show does him justice.

[AlgeaX]

I really liked Wasp in this micro-ep. I was really afraid they'd overdo the ditzyness but they managed to balance her outward flightiness with a strongly held belief in helping others. I also loved "you could do so much more with your powers, like blend giant drinks", a quip worthy of Spidey himself. I also liked her bickering with Ant-Man, the writers have managed to give their relationship a slightly dsyfunctional yet fun dimension. It really feels like I'm watching the Silver Age version of these characters. And yeah Whirlwind looks like he's going to be developing a creepy obsession with Jan like in the comics.

Other random thoughts...

"Jan, I just replicated an ant chromosone!" Hank is such a nerd. LOL :p
Does anybody know who voices Whirlwind, there's something about it I like
Let's look at some of the bad guys who've appaered so far. What do the Absorbing Man, Klaw, the Wrecking Crew, Radioactive Man, Enchatress, Executioner and Whirlwind all have in common? ;)

[suss2it]

Let's look at some of the bad guys who've appaered so far. What do the Absorbing Man, Klaw, the Wrecking Crew, Radioactive Man, Enchatress, Executioner and Whirlwind all have in common? ;)
They're all into evil and mastering things?

[Venom Melendez]

I know! I totally loved the Punisher nod. I remember seeing it in one of the trailers. I was so excited. I know this show is all about the Avengers, but with so many villains I hope we get lots of cool cameos from other characters.
I'd love to see the Punisher show up in an episode or something.

CAP!? Seriously!? Sweet! Where do you find your info? I can't wait to see a Cap episode.


Pretty sure Punisher won't show up(They aren't dealing with street level crime). That probably was just a nod to the character.


I really liked Wasp in this micro-ep. I was really afraid they'd overdo the ditzyness but they managed to balance her outward flightiness with a strongly held belief in helping others. I also loved "you could do so much more with your powers, like blend giant drinks", a quip worthy of Spidey himself. I also liked her bickering with Ant-Man, the writers have managed to give their relationship a slightly dsyfunctional yet fun dimension. It really feels like I'm watching the Silver Age version of these characters. And yeah Whirlwind looks like he's going to be developing a creepy obsession with Jan like in the comics.





Other random thoughts...

"Jan, I just replicated an ant chromosone!" Hank is such a nerd. LOL :p
Does anybody know who voices Whirlwind, there's something about it I like
Let's look at some of the bad guys who've appaered so far. What do the Absorbing Man, Klaw, the Wrecking Crew, Radioactive Man, Enchatress, Executioner and Whirlwind all have in common? ;)





As for the Masters,'Absobing Man is working with the Leader(Along with some other radiated villains ) and Enchantress and the Executioner are working for Loki, so they might not be working with the Masters. But who knows,the different villain groups might all get together to form the Masters or we might get a unique line up for the show.

[Rohan]

What do the Absorbing Man, Klaw, the Wrecking Crew, Radioactive Man, Enchatress, Executioner and Whirlwind all have in common?

I dunno, but Absorbing Man, Klaw, the Wrecking Crew and Amora ring "Secret Wars" to me.

[dmxx116]

Meet Captain America :

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/st/14240header_banner6309593.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwXctAHg-vg&feature=player_embedded

http://disney.go.com/xd/avengers/cds/videos/index.html

http://marvel.com/videos/1562.the_avengers~colon~_earth~apos~s_mightiest_heroes~excl~%2c_micro-episode_14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z80G9DrMB8&feature=channel

[BigEclipse]

Another really good episode. I'm guessing in this universe the Allied Powers were fighting HYDRA, instead of Nazi Germany. Can live with that. Loved the Wolverine cameo, complete with Steve Blum's voice acting. I think I love this show...

[kid rabbit]

HOLY...:eek: WOLVERINE

[RONDC20]

I have really been enjoying these a lot and I am really excited for the series. All in all this looks like it's gonna be GREAT!!!

With that said this Captain America episode was AWESOME!!! We got to see our first look at Kang and he sounds great. I loved how it started with that classic news reel.

It was a little disappointing that it was Hydra instead of Nazis. Can someone explain to me why they can't use Nazis as villains? Because I don't understand.

Aside from that it was great. We got to see the Howling Commandos and freaking Logan too. I love the way Cap looks and sounds. He is perfectly depicted here. His appearance was epic and iconic. Red Skull was also great. And Bucky was also cool to see him.

This episode really got me hyped. My only complaint is no Nazis

[JTMarsh]

Well, she certainly is fun and lively. Whirlwind is one of those second rate Marvel villains I always loved (alongside guys like Shocker, Batroc, Wrecking Crew, Rhino, etc) so it's fun to see him but I also felt kind of sorry for him after he got taken out like that by The Wasp of all people. So on one hand, it's great to see Jan handle herself but Whirlwind really needs to get his act together while he has time to do so in the Big House.

Seeing Jan, accompanied by the music during the beginning, made me have weird thoughts of seeing her used in a Disney/Marvel Princess line. Yeah, these are the end of days (just joking. DC barbies didn't seem to hurt them much).
Princess Jan (or Princess Wasp) would be undeniably funny. :D

[spyke]

Another really good episode. I'm guessing in this universe the Allied Powers were fighting HYDRA, instead of Nazi Germany. Can live with that. Loved the Wolverine cameo, complete with Steve Blum's voice acting. I think I love this show...

That's the only problem I had with that episode. WW2 should not be sugarcoated for kids. This is history kids should be (and are) taught in grade school. Hopefully, Hydra is working for the Nazis or are a separate group that broke away from the Nazis.

[Rick Jones]

Is that Scott Menville as Bucky ? That would be pretty funny considering. If Kevin Conroy turned out to be a Cap villain, that would be extra insane casting.

Was that Steve Blum as Howlett ? Didn't sound like him to me but I've read that he's Red Skull which would mean that he should most likely play Logan as well, right ?

[M.O.D.O.K.]

True. Unless they are worried they might offend Nazis, and the Nazis sue for libel and hate speech.:p

[spyke]

True. Unless they are worried they might offend Nazis, and the Nazis sue for libel and hate speech.:p

LOL

It's like they are taking PC to a whole new level.

[RONDC20]

I hear that. I mean are people seriously worried about offending Nazis? I just don't get it.

[spyke]

I hear that. I mean are people seriously worried about offending Nazis? I just don't get it.

I think that they might be more afraid of offending Germans. They want this series to play all over the world and are probably worried about offending Germans by historically and accurately portraying their country during that time period.

[HEATXZ]

Meet Captain America was great :anime:
Nice to see Kang and Wolverine

[Brad Redfield]

LOVED this one. It was great to see Cap outside of a guest star role.

As for the Hydra/Nazi thing, I can't complain. Hydra is an all right substitute and we still get some eerily similar Nazi-ish imagery to boot. (It kinda reminds me of the Lego Indiana Jones stuff. No Nazi imagery so they just call them German soldiers.)

I'm surprised that they're showing actual gunfire. It was great hearing that old school ricochet sound effect when Cap was being fired upon.

Also...did that one guy actually die? EDIT: Derp. Wasn't paying attention when he woke up.

And no doubt about it: The show is most definitely getting a full-on orchestrated soundtrack. NICE. How long has it been since a superhero TV show got this kind of treatment?

All in all, I can't wait to see the next mirco-episode. :D

[Bat-Fan Beyond]

I think that they might be more afraid of offending Germans. They want this series to play all over the world and are probably worried about offending Germans by historically and accurately portraying their country during that time period.

I think I have to agree with that.

Another possibility is that they just may not want to make light of the actual war by depicting superheroes fighting against the Nazis. That was a bit of a problem during WWII with some publishers; Some thought it would be inappropriate to show fictional superheroes taking out the enemies that real soldiers were fighting and getting killed by.

Overall, even without actual Nazis, I still loved this episode. Seeing Logan was a nice surprise I wasn't expecting.

[Mad Hatter]

Awesome. I officially love this series more the Wolverine and the X-Men. Not more than Spectacular Spider-Man, though, but I have a feeling this show will surpass that one.

I'm surprised that mo one mentioned this, by the way, but along with Dum Dum Dugan and Logan Howlett (AWESOME!!!), they also included someone I didn't expect, and used him to replace someone I didn't expect to replace. The black soldier wasn't Gabriel Jones. Cap called him "Jack."

As in Jack Fury, Nick Fury's father? If so, I'm not sure how I feel about that. Honestly, I think it kind of sucks. No, Nick Fury of the modern day doesn't feel like he's getting the respect and reverence he should, based on his World War II record in the comics. But if not, WHY is he called Jack? I think the only logical solution is that that's Jack Fury, this Nick Fury's father.

And that sucks.

The episode was still undeniably awesome, though, and the "Enter the Whirlwind" was pretty god, too. Not undeniably awesome, but pretty good.

[spyke]

Awesome. I officially love this series more the Wolverine and the X-Men. Not more than Spectacular Spider-Man, though, but I have a feeling this show will surpass that one.

I'm surprised that mo one mentioned this, by the way, but along with Dum Dum Dugan and Logan Howlett (AWESOME!!!), they also included someone I didn't expect, and used him to replace someone I didn't expect to replace. The black soldier wasn't Gabriel Jones. Cap called him "Jack."

As in Jack Fury, Nick Fury's father? If so, I'm not sure how I feel about that. Honestly, I think it kind of sucks. No, Nick Fury of the modern day doesn't feel like he's getting the respect and reverence he should, based on his World War II record in the comics. But if not, WHY is he called Jack? I think the only logical solution is that that's Jack Fury, this Nick Fury's father.

And that sucks.

The episode was still undeniably awesome, though, and the "Enter the Whirlwind" was pretty god, too. Not undeniably awesome, but pretty good.

I don't think Jack was black, but I could be wrong. IMO, they should have made the modern day black Nick Fury, the biracial son or grandson of the WW2 616 white Nick Fury.

[Venom Melendez]

Awesome. I officially love this series more the Wolverine and the X-Men. Not more than Spectacular Spider-Man, though, but I have a feeling this show will surpass that one.

I'm surprised that mo one mentioned this, by the way, but along with Dum Dum Dugan and Logan Howlett (AWESOME!!!), they also included someone I didn't expect, and used him to replace someone I didn't expect to replace. The black soldier wasn't Gabriel Jones. Cap called him "Jack."

As in Jack Fury, Nick Fury's father? If so, I'm not sure how I feel about that. Honestly, I think it kind of sucks. No, Nick Fury of the modern day doesn't feel like he's getting the respect and reverence he should, based on his World War II record in the comics. But if not, WHY is he called Jack? I think the only logical solution is that that's Jack Fury, this Nick Fury's father.

And that sucks.

The episode was still undeniably awesome, though, and the "Enter the Whirlwind" was pretty god, too. Not undeniably awesome, but pretty good.


This show is it's own continuity, so in the end it doesn't really matter as long as it's good.

I don't think Jack was black, but I could be wrong. IMO, they should have made the modern day black Nick Fury, the biracial son or grandson of the WW2 616 white Nick Fury.

He it sounded like Jack had the same voice actor as Nick Fury, so the probably are related. Anyway, i disagree with the grandson thing, wa too complicated than it needs to be.




It was a little disappointing that it was Hydra instead of Nazis. Can someone explain to me why they can't use Nazis as villains? Because I don't understand.


It's not really a big deal since in the comics HYDRA had ties to the Nazi's too. Besides, it makes Red Skull the Big Bad from the get go, so it works out.

Also, anyone else noticed the Young Baron Strucker?

Also, I did enjoy the James Howlett(aka Wolverine) cameo and voiced b Steven Blum too. Btw, is Blum voicing Red Skull too? And who's voicing Kang? Kangs voice sounded a tad familiar.

[DarqueGuy]

I'd need to see it again, but could Jack be a tribute to Kirby?

[AlgeaX]

Okay, I think the healthiest thing would be to start by listing all the things I liked about this micro-ep...

I LOVED Kang's little cameo at the start, easily the highlight of the micro-ep. I don't know who's voicing him but he sounds badass!
I'm not a huge Wolverine fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I was glad to see him here. Mainly because if they have the rights to use him, they can use other x-characters like Scarlet Witch.
Scott Menville as Bucky? Priceless. :p
Well now that that's out of the way I can address my major problem with this ep, where are the freaking Nazis? When I first heard Baron Strucker was going to be leading this show's version of HYDRA I thought "looks like they're going with the Neo-Nazi HYDRA, that's gutsy!". Now it turns out what I originally mistook for guts was just some horribly misguided pseudo politically correct spinelessness. This isn't like changing Galactus' origin story, this is real world history. You can't freaking retcon the Third Reich!

I don't understand the logic behind this. Is it a S&P issue? Because so far S&P on this show hasn't had any problem with stabbing people in the eye or knocking out their teeth or crushing them under drawbridges for that matter, so why are they suddenly so squeamish? Heck, even if you can't use the actual n-word they could still use some synonym like "German Soldiers" or "Axis Powers", that would have got the idea across.

Are they afraid of offending Germans? Well Strucker's pretty much a walking German stereotype anyway, the Evil Prussian Aristocrat (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NaziNobleman). And really, Nazi =/= all Germans. Expecting Germans to be offended by portrayals of Nazis is like expecting all Americans to be offended by a cartoon parodying Sarah Palin.

Is it because having comicbook characters involved with WWII somehow cheapens or trivialises the real world tragedy? Well I'm sure war veterans and holocaust survivors around the world are comforted by Marvel simply pretending the horrors they endured never happened. And if the writers really do feel that way, why is Captain America even in this show? Beating up Nazis is his whole raison d'etre.

Anyway if it sounds like I'm making a big deal out of this, it's because I think it is a big deal. This was an opportunity for the creative team to prove this show was about something more then marketing over-priced pieces of plastic to kids. Frankly I think this micro-series may have just jumped the shark.

To finish up here's a list of animated kids shows made since the 1980s that weren't afraid to show real nazis...

Gargoyles
Justice League
X-Men: TAS
Spider-man: TAS
X-Men: Evolution
Dungeons & Dragons
Captain Planet

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[macattack]

No Nazis? Come on. It would've been awesome to see the Nazis get the tar beaten out of them. What's the point in removing them? Justice League censored the Nazi symbol but they made it clear that our superheroes and their allies were fighting Nazis. Why couldn't they do the same here?

The Nazis are BAD guys. Unquestionably. Undoubtedly. And should not be shied away from.

I mean, they allowed real bullets to be fired in that micro short. Why is that allowed and not Nazis?

Hiding Nazi imagery means that you care about what the Nazis think, and it will be easier for people growing up to think that maybe the Nazis weren't so bad. And that would be disastrous.

[The Overlord]

No Nazis? Come on. It would've been awesome to see the Nazis get the tar beaten out of them. What's the point in removing them? Justice League censored the Nazi symbol but they made it clear that our superheroes and their allies were fighting Nazis. Why couldn't they do the same here?

The Nazis are BAD guys. Unquestionably. Undoubtedly. And should not be shied away from.

I mean, they allowed real bullets to be fired in that micro short. Why is that allowed and not Nazis?

Hiding Nazi imagery means that you care about what the Nazis think, and it will be easier for people growing up to think that maybe the Nazis weren't so bad. And that would be disastrous.

Except Disney would want to show this cartoon in other countries and in Germany they likely wouldn't allow the cartoon to air if the show had Nazis on it. Nazis are a big taboo.

[AlgeaX]

Except Disney would want to show this cartoon in other countries and in Germany they likely wouldn't allow the cartoon to air if the show had Nazis on it. Nazis are a big taboo.

Then just call then "German soldiers" or "Axis troops", you get the same idea across.

[RONDC20]

AlgeaX I could not agree with you more even if itried to. This was a great Micro ep. I loved it, in fact It was my favorite. I love, I mean LOVE Captain America. He is my favorite Marvel Superhero besides Spider-Man. (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/member.php?u=32194)

They depicted him flawlessly here and almost everything else about it was perfect too, but that who no Nazis thing really did bug me, quite a bit. It's just so lazy and dissapointing......sigh!